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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Banshee7 on April 29, 2024, 09:16:50 AM
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What do y'all think about buying prebuilt PCs? I'm in the market for an upgrade, and I have never built a PC before. So the pros (for me) would be it's already assembled, AND I wouldn't have to drop the cash all at once. I don't really have anyone close that I trust to help build a PC either, so all of my help would come from online. Just picking your brains and seeking advice!
<S>
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I have upgraded my original 286 from 1993 to the i7 I have today...never bought a built desktop
I found building them enjoyable over the years .. for the wife and both sons too
What are you upgrading from to?
Eagler
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What are you upgrading from to?
I bought a secondhand PC with an i5-9400 and a 2070 Super back in 2020. I don't know what I want to upgrade to. I've been shopping around. I just want something with decent performance and longevity. My PC bottlenecks so bad in other games (I'm assuming because of the CPU). I would just upgrade that, but I'd have to update the motherboard, too. Which honestly would still be cheaper.
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There is some pride, fun, and learning that goes with building your own. Ya really become one with it. Motherboard and power supply will dictate what you can do with it, leaving room to upgrade it in the future.
Selection of case, MB, power supply and cooling. The rest is pretty easy.
People in the Hardware forum are usually more than willing to help you. Very knowledgeable ppl.
Its a personal choice. Not everyone is into it. Until recently, lack of time, I always built my own, since late 80s.
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I know people who have used both cyberpowerpc (https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/) and digitalstorm (https://www.digitalstorm.com/) with out issues.
Both build to your spec or one of their main sets, test, and warranty their computers. I think both offer online/phone tech service just incase you have questions or need help once you get it.
Also, building your own isnt that tough. Go to a site like Part Picker (https://pcpartpicker.com/) and pick the parts you want. It will even help you "match" parts so you only get stuff that works together. It will also recommend the powersupply due to the power draw of your parts. Post the list here on the boards for more info from the tech heads here who have built many a box.
Good Luck!
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I bought a secondhand PC with an i5-9400 and a 2070 Super back in 2020. I don't know what I want to upgrade to. I've been shopping around. I just want something with decent performance and longevity. My PC bottlenecks so bad in other games (I'm assuming because of the CPU). I would just upgrade that, but I'd have to update the motherboard, too. Which honestly would still be cheaper.
Can you give your motherboard model? Also how much RAM do you have?
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Can you give your motherboard model? Also how much RAM do you have?
To my knowledge: MSI Z390-A PRO motherboard and 16GB of DDR4 RAM 3000MHz
These are based off the screenshot I have from when I bought the PC from someone. I can double check when I get home.
Actually just sent you that screenshot on FB messenger
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type "run" in the windows search bar(lower left of your main screen), and click run.
in that window type msinfo32 hit ok
about halfway down the "System Summery" list find "BaseBoard xxx" should be 3 of them, Mother board manufacturer, product, and version.
for ram,
type cmd in search bar and click command prompt
in that window type wmic MemoryChip get
this will show you what ram you have in each slot and a part number to check more info on the ram.
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I bought a secondhand PC with an i5-9400 and a 2070 Super back in 2020. I don't know what I want to upgrade to. I've been shopping around. I just want something with decent performance and longevity. My PC bottlenecks so bad in other games (I'm assuming because of the CPU). I would just upgrade that, but I'd have to update the motherboard, too. Which honestly would still be cheaper.
That CPU doesn't sound too bad to me, 2.9 GHz base frequency should be plenty good enough for most games as should the 2070 Super. With 16 GB of RAM you should be golden. That said, getting a used i5 9600k might be an inexpensive upgrade especially if you can sell the current one.
Then again, you didn't actually tell how you struggle. If you have problems with FullHD at 60Hz it's most likely something hampering your system. But if your issue is in getting less than 144 FPS on a 4K monitor we're talking about lack of oomph.
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Lot sales going on right now. Some good deals. I'd stick with Nvidia for the GPU. Less difference between Intel and AMD CPU.
https://www.pcgamer.com/best-cheap-gaming-pc/
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Then again, you didn't actually tell how you struggle. If you have problems with FullHD at 60Hz it's most likely something hampering your system. But if your issue is in getting less than 144 FPS on a 4K monitor we're talking about lack of oomph.
Aces High it typically runs fine maxed settings. Call of Duty (which is CPU intensive), I have to run lowest settings possible to get maybe 60FPS on Warzone and around 100 on small map multiplayer. I've even struggled with games like Minecraft if I run a texture pack. Farming simulator I can see small stutters in FPS as well, but it's not constant. Just depends on the atmosphere around me. I was telling Spikes that I read up a little on my CPU, and it seems like that CPU specifically is just crap. I didn't think my GPU (2070 Super) wasn't much of an issue, but it's frustrating hearing my friends' performance with older GPUs. I'm only running on a 1080p monitor.
I'm also wanting to upgrade to something that's going to easily last me the next 4-5 years. I know games and graphics are just going to get better and better, leaving my rig behind. I wanna be able to try games like DCS or MSFS and actually enjoy the scenery, since that's a big draw point of those games.
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I took a quick look at a comparison benchmark between the i5-9600K and the latest i5-14600K. The latter is about 30% more powerful but looking at the base clock it's not that obvious. I guess the benchmark compares turbo speed rather than a prolonged session. But you're going to be gaming for hours instead a two-minute benchmark run! Your i5-9400 running at 2.9 GHz obviously has to work even harder but is it the actual bottleneck?
One thing that comes into mind with your CPU is thermal throttling. A hard working CPU gets hot and to prevent burning it the system slows it down. A stock cooler is for office use only, it can't cool down a CPU running at full speed. Liquid cooling is the most effective but I'm an air guy... A decent tower cooler with a large fan should keep a standard system cool enough given that there's sufficient air flow inside the case and that the room temperature isn't close to body temperature to start with.
I would like to know the CPU temps during a session of CoD or Warzone. There's tools like HwMonitor that will show not only show the current values but also mins and maxes. https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/hwmonitor_1.53.zip (https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/hwmonitor_1.53.zip) Thus you can let it run in the background during a game and potentially even Alt-Tab to view it when you notice a decrease in performance.
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Don't know anything about the builder but the price doesn't look bad for what you get..
Eagler
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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360507?Item=N82E16883360507&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=promo&utm_campaign=EMC-Automation042924-USA-_-EMC-042924-Index-_-GamingDesktops-_-N82E16883360507-_-USA_PromoEmail_20240429_01&ignorebbr=1&cm_mmc=EMC-Automation042924-USA-_-EMC-042924-Index-_-GamingDesktops-_-N82E16883360507-_-USA_PromoEmail_20240429_01&ignorebbr=1&cvtc=21411982
Don't know anything about the builder but the price doesn't look bad for what you get..
Eagler
I agree, good price.
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One thing that comes into mind with your CPU is thermal throttling. A hard working CPU gets hot and to prevent burning it the system slows it down. A stock cooler is for office use only, it can't cool down a CPU running at full speed. Liquid cooling is the most effective but I'm an air guy... A decent tower cooler with a large fan should keep a standard system cool enough given that there's sufficient air flow inside the case and that the room temperature isn't close to body temperature to start with.
I would like to know the CPU temps during a session of CoD or Warzone. There's tools like HwMonitor that will show not only show the current values but also mins and maxes. https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/hwmonitor_1.53.zip (https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/hwmonitor_1.53.zip) Thus you can let it run in the background during a game and potentially even Alt-Tab to view it when you notice a decrease in performance.
I have a liquid cooler. My CPU usually ran around 70-72 degrees. I haven't played CoD in about 3 months or so. I may boot it up for a test run.
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Brother recently upgraded to an RTX 4090 to drive his new Pimax crystal. He considered going from a Ryzen 7 5800X3D to a Ryzen 7 7800X3D. The latter would require a new MB and not required but desired DDR5. We discussed and decided to stay with the 5800X3D. Found there really was no need to change that. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is not a bottle neck for a 4090 so certainly won't be for a slower GPU.
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I'm running a Ryzen 7 5800X3D also with an RTX 3070 and there's really nothing I can't run at the settings I want on a 2560 x 1440 monitor.
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Vr or no vr would change things too
Eagler
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Vr or no vr would change things too
Eagler
I don't think I can do VR. I've tried doing VR stuff, and it makes me super uncomfortable. I can't explain it lol
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What do y'all think about buying prebuilt PCs? I'm in the market for an upgrade, and I have never built a PC before. So the pros (for me) would be it's already assembled, AND I wouldn't have to drop the cash all at once. I don't really have anyone close that I trust to help build a PC either, so all of my help would come from online. Just picking your brains and seeking advice!
<S>
I bought a Dell and I love it.
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I don't think I can do VR. I've tried doing VR stuff, and it makes me super uncomfortable. I can't explain it lol
About that, coupla things can influence the nausea-type feeling you might get - one is to make sure the IPD adjustment of the headset matches your own IPD (distance in mm between your pupils), and second is maintain a high frame rate (refresh rate). I get a weird queazy-like feeling if my frame rate drops below 75 fps or so.
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I've been pleased with the two Cyberpowerpcs that I've owned.
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I have not bought a built PC in 30 years. In fact, the only "bought" PC I owned was a gift.
Just can't bring myself to buy one.
You can look at a few specific components, and then go to a component seller and use their "configurator" to "build virtually" to avoid conflicts.
I'd find a CPU level and GPU level I felt I needed, and go from there.
Oh, and if you're in or near middle Tennessee, I'll help you.
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The last 2 PC's I got I did not build. I started pricing components and found that I could just buy one prebuilt a little cheaper than building it. The last one was more than a little cheaper than building it. I am happy with the cyberpower unit I have been using for about 4 years now. No issues and it's also my first SSD boot drive unit. My only complaint is the boot drive would have been nicer if it were 500 gig to a terrabyte but there is also a secondary standard HD so I have plenty of storage / game space.
If you like building one, go for it. I have done so in the past but it is not something that really is important to me. I look at price as well as components rather than "pride of building". Not putting it down, it just isn't a major decision point in getting a new unit.
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If you're going to build yourself don't forget the cost of an OS. Retailers get discounts on the OS and their sale prices can be hard to beat.
Fry's used to offer a greatly discounted oem version of Windows with a purchased motherboard. No more Fry's.
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If you're going to build yourself don't forget the cost of an OS. Retailers get discounts on the OS and their sale prices can be hard to beat.
Although I'm not a great fan of <brand> PC's that's a good point.
<Brand> PC's often are utterly hyped and they may have a dozen variations of the theme. The worst "gaming PC" I've seen had a dedicated (overpriced) power supply that had only a few wires connected directly to the motherboard from where everything else was getting their power. Neatly built but impossible to upgrade. And it had a sister model with a regular PSU. If you build by yourself or let a builder company do the job you'll get a PC with easily swappable parts.
Also worth mentioning that using old Win7 keys stopped working starting November 2023.
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Don't know anything about the builder but the price doesn't look bad for what you get..
Eagler
I bought an ABS pre-built in 2021. I have been very happy with it and I have done some upgrades to it since. This was the first pre-built I had bought since I started building my PC's back in the mid 90's. I was impressed with the name brand components used and the cable routing was done very well. Also minimum bloatware.
I bought the ABS system, because I was due for a "major" upgrade replacing pretty much everything, but a case. When I shopped for the best prices on the individual components and added it all up it was more expensive than the pre-built.
Another item to look at is the GPU you want. When you look at a 4090 (or 5090 this year) combined with motherboard/CPU you might find the price and availability to be better with a pre-built.
Just something to think about.
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What do y'all think about buying prebuilt PCs? I'm in the market for an upgrade, and I have never built a PC before. So the pros (for me) would be it's already assembled, AND I wouldn't have to drop the cash all at once. I don't really have anyone close that I trust to help build a PC either, so all of my help would come from online. Just picking your brains and seeking advice!
<S>
I bought an ABS gaming computer from NewEgg a couple of yrs ago for around 800 bucks. 6 months in the processor went bad. It was under warranty and repaired at no cost. Since then I haven't found a game yet I can't play on max settings. I'm happy with it.
If I ever build a computer again, it'll be liquid cooled ......just because I've never had one.
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I bought an ABS gaming computer from NewEgg a couple of yrs ago for around 800 bucks. 6 months in the processor went bad. It was under warranty and repaired at no cost. Since then I haven't found a game yet I can't play on max settings. I'm happy with it.
If I ever build a computer again, it'll be liquid cooled ......just because I've never had one.
Interestingly, my ram cost more than that. :rofl :aok
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I bought an ABS gaming computer from NewEgg a couple of yrs ago for around 800 bucks. 6 months in the processor went bad. It was under warranty and repaired at no cost. Since then I haven't found a game yet I can't play on max settings. I'm happy with it.
If I ever build a computer again, it'll be liquid cooled ......just because I've never had one.
Two of my machines use liquid cooling for the CPU. I don't over clock so there's really no need. Just a bit quieter. They may stay a bit cooler but they'll become obsolete before the CPU dies.
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If I was in the market for a new machine I'd definitely give this one some consideration but don't call me Steven. ;)
https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/gaming-pcs/get-dollar500-off-this-alienware-aurora-r16-with-rtx-4080-super-and-core-i9-14900kf
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I looked at some of those old Dell commercials. In '97 they offered a system for $2,499. The year 2000 was $899, 2001, $799. I enjoy a bit of nostalgia now and then.
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Ya gotta shop around and always checkout the clearance stuff first. I got a 210 dollar 27 inch curved screen for 110 bucks at Walmart. 60% off in the clearance section. It's some weird Korean off brand, but the youtube reviews says it's a dandy. So far I love it.
That being said, I did screw up getting my son a cheap gamer rig for IRacing as I didn't realize no video card included. So ended up dropping another 250/300 for the card. His whole set up minus the pit ran about 1200.
Another thing is prices have damn near doubled on everything :mad:
win10 in cheaper the win11 too, so keeping that in mind is a good idea.
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The problem building your own is the heaps of industry specific product knowledge required to not be led up a blind canyon by the hardware sellers.
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Many here can tell you what's compatible with what. Pick a CPU and go from there.
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The problem building your own is the heaps of industry specific product knowledge required to not be led up a blind canyon by the hardware sellers.
Not that much actually. There's known good brands for components and their compatibility is relatively easy to confirm with e.g. PartPicker.
Something like a top i5 of the two-three latest generations, a compatible Asus mobo, 16 GB of most likely DDR4 RAM, one TB of M.2 SSD disk and a Seasonic PSU, plus of course an upper mid class GPU like RTX4070 should have a decent longevity for most games.
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The problem building your own is the heaps of industry specific product knowledge required to not be led up a blind canyon by the hardware sellers.
lol no.
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Good prices on the AMD X3D series of CPUs.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-cpu-review
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The problem building your own is the heaps of industry specific product knowledge required to not be led up a blind canyon by the hardware sellers.
Building your own PC is one of the easiest things to do in regards to computers...
EDIT: Building a PC for the right budget with minimal bottlenecks is one thing and certainly a skill. But putting together a modern PC on a fullsize ATX platform is very hard to screw up and you can learn how to do it on youtube in 30 minutes.
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^^ That. Putting the pieces together is like building with Legos.
There's two main issues in building your own. The first is choosing the right components which can be divided into two categories, compatibility and reliability. For compatibility building apps like PC Part Picker are of great help, reliability is a bit tougher one but the better quality items usually are quite well reviewed by independent testers while the cheap ones only have user reviews on far-away (Middle-East, former Soviet satellites etc.) webshops.
The second issue is to install Windows in a way that it takes as little resources as possible, with a minimum number of unneeded crap that decide to perform an update right in the middle of a boss fight.
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Newegg has sale on gaming pcs
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Eagler
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I know exactly what is required and have been a microsoft certified systems engineer since 1998.
I overclocked my first PC in 1981 and have routinely performed component level repairs since then.
I also have had plenty of success using parts that people wrongly parroted incorrect information about but never tried themselves.
It’s probably the reason why my system built in 1995 with seemingly incompatible hardware still runs in 2024.
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I really appreciate all of your input, guys! I'm continually shopping and taking in all the advice I can from y'all! I hope to make a decision very soon!!
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I overclocked my first PC in 1981
The first overclockable PC components weren't even available until about 1985.
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I knew people who customized the Commodore 64 kernal back in the 80's but I doubt they overclocked the chip. I did have a fast loader cart for the 1541 that worked well.
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Something to keep in mind when buying a prebuilt. Upgradeability. Some brands like HP and Dell may use their own custom cases and motherboards. That can limit upgradeability should you be so inclined.
Even in those situations though you can buy a case relatively cheap and still use some parts from the original. AMD CPUs are more upgradeable than Intel. Any new Intel CPU is going to require a new motherboard. Less so with AMD.
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The first overclockable PC components weren't even available until about 1985.
The problem is that you have no experience going back that far yet you still comment from a position of ignorance
Early motherboards used crystals to determine clock speeds and i had been working with crystals since childhood.
It’s not my fault you don’t have the IT chops to hang.
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The problem is that you have no experience going back that far yet you still comment from a position of ignorance
Early motherboards used crystals to determine clock speeds and i had been working with crystals since childhood.
It’s not my fault you don’t have the IT chops to hang.
No one here believes your claims that you were "overclocking" years before overclocking became a thing, especially when you claim PC manufacturers purposely lead people up "blind canyons" and fail at flying in a game where you try to lecture people on ACM and aerodynamics.
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You piped up attacking me first and can’t handle heat coming back at you.
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You piped up attacking me first and can’t handle heat coming back at you.
You stated a blatant lie; thus far, I've stated nothing but facts. That's neither heat nor not being able to handle it.
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The first overclockable PC components weren't even available until about 1985.
First oc-attempts were done in the 1970s, when chip designer Chuck Peddle experimented with defective 6502 CPUs to see how fast they could run. 1981 some job was done with overclocking TRS-80. A soldering iron was involved. Some jumpers etc.
The first overclockable motherboards came to market at 1985, starting over-clocking as it is today. Before that, it was much more complicated but possible, if one knew what was doing.
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The first overclockable PC components weren't even available until about 1985.
Wrong
Overclocking has always been possible via the front side bus or on older chips via the external oscillator PLL circuit :salute
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Wrong
Overclocking has always been possible via the front side bus or on older chips via the external oscillator PLL circuit :salute
Never said it wasn't possible; I said that the first components available for the purpose of overclocking were made available in the mid 1980s.
As I've stated many times, icepac makes incredulous claims (like the one before, claiming PC manufacturers purposely mislead consumers, or lecturing people on aerodynamics and then failing himself) and then can't back them up whatsoever. Ergo, this is completely his style to claim he was doing something before it was widely available, only to completely contradict himself (as he did in the post before).
Check his post history if you want a view into paranoid comedy gold.
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I had a 286 desktop that had a turbo button on it that when pressed would increase the cpu from 10 mhz to 15, with a handy number segment display what would give you real time cpu speed
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I’m sure other ham radio guys saw crystals on early motherboards and saw the ability to control motherboard speeds.
My claims are only outrageous to you because you lack the life experience to understand.
Not having the chops or experience to argue a subject should be a raging clue to stop.
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My claims are only outrageous to you because you lack the life experience to understand.
Not having the chops or experience to argue a subject should be a raging clue to stop.
Says the guy who claimed PC part manufacturers lead consumers up a "blind valley." I say that with countless PC parts on a table next to me. My 15 year old neighbors kids build their own PCs too.
Here you are doing the same thing in-game: getting your butt handed to you on a platter, meanwhile you blame the game's sloppy physics while claiming you've flown real aerobatics and can do the thing in real life, lol (see a pattern?).
Go to 34:00 if you want to see that quote, but watch from the beginning if you want to see almost an hour of fumbling and excuses and poor flying.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OM0F3BgDMl0
You're the one without experience in virtually everything you try to lecture people on; and predictably, you try to insult others and claim you're actually more experienced in real life (most of the time, you're laughably not) when called on it. You even did that exact thing when you failed to get a single kill in a duel: you claimed you were faaar more experienced and an actual expert and it's the game that's wrong, not your flying lol.
Your replies in this thread are no different. You got caught lying, claiming PC manufacturers purposely obscure options and confuse the consumer. Maybe it's difficult for you and your senility, but that isn't the norm. So what did you do? You claimed you're an expert IRL and tried to divert about overclocking. Sorry, that isn't going to fly here.
PC building isn't hard for others nor do manufacturers obscure the parts compatibility. You might find it hard (like most everything else), but that doesn't make it true or the norm for others.
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The problem building your own is the heaps of industry specific product knowledge required to not be led up a blind canyon by the hardware sellers.
Your misreading and not understanding led you to incorrectly “quote” me.
I did not say “manufacturers”.
I said hardware sellers…..you know the salesmen in places like microcenter pushing product without consulting compatibility documentation.
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Just like in one motorbike forum I used to participate; always someone claiming "you cannot tune ECU of this and that bike" and when someone did it and dynoed +10% of hp and some extra torque, starts arguing and "liar, liar..!" My bike has untuneable ECU which is tuned by certified mc technician, so we both are liars.
There are always those, who know everything better. My ex was one. That's one reason she enjoys status "X". In bike forum they were often hardcore Power Commander believers, who had no technical knowledge. Don't get me wrong, Power Comm is great gadget but not the only way to tune modern bikes. Here all-knowers, they are...
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This dude just be arguing with who ever
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This dude just be arguing with who ever
And subject does not matter. Must be hard to be best in everything, while pariah does not understand it.
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I love that skyyr spends so much time poring through scores, forum posts, and his video library only to spew walls of text not even remotely related to the subject.
I was on the beach while you toiled.
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I once set a DX2 on top of a clock..... does that count?
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I once set a DX2 on top of a clock..... does that count?
Did the same and it didn’t seem to have much effect,except I didn’t know what time it was. :neener:
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I once set a DX2 on top of a clock..... does that count?
depends on the time.
semp
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I once set a DX2 on top of a clock..... does that count?
Liar! Top-of-the-clock DX2s came to market just few days ago and they are sold only to handpicked individuals. I think they were all sold out to some yoghurt dealer.
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I bought a Cyberpower PC. Tech support was good. Had hard drive fail and was replaced under warranty. It was a good experience only compliant was after warranty wanted to upgrade and they would not touch it.
:banana: :banana: :banana:
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Here's one you shouldn't need to upgrade for a bit..depending on your budget...
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cs-9060010-na-vengeance-i8200/p/N82E16883304021?Item=N82E16883304021&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=promo&utm_campaign=EMC-Automation051224-USA-_-EMC-051224-Index-_-GamingDesktops-_-N82E16883304021-_-USA_PromoEmail_20240512_01&ignorebbr=1&cm_mmc=EMC-Automation051224-USA-_-EMC-051224-Index-_-GamingDesktops-_-N82E16883304021-_-USA_PromoEmail_20240512_01&ignorebbr=1&cvtc=21411982
Eagler
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Here's one you shouldn't need to upgrade for a bit..depending on your budget...
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cs-9060010-na-vengeance-i8200/p/N82E16883304021?Item=N82E16883304021&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=promo&utm_campaign=EMC-Automation051224-USA-_-EMC-051224-Index-_-GamingDesktops-_-N82E16883304021-_-USA_PromoEmail_20240512_01&ignorebbr=1&cm_mmc=EMC-Automation051224-USA-_-EMC-051224-Index-_-GamingDesktops-_-N82E16883304021-_-USA_PromoEmail_20240512_01&ignorebbr=1&cvtc=21411982
Eagler
That’s a hoss!!!
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Cyberpower PC sucks
On my 3rd claim in 11 months
Avoid
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Cyberpower PC sucks
On my 3rd claim in 11 months
Avoid
Noted!!!
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I wouldn't drop big $ on a high horsepower system right now.
AMD has a new batch of CPUs coming and it'd be smart to wait a month or three for those to see how they stack up in the $/performance category. Same goes for nVidia, spending full retail on a 4090 or even 4070/80/etc would be an ouch if they come out with a new 5xxx series RTX in q4 as they are rumored to be doing.
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I wouldn't drop big $ on a high horsepower system right now.
AMD has a new batch of CPUs coming and it'd be smart to wait a month or three for those to see how they stack up in the $/performance category. Same goes for nVidia, spending full retail on a 4090 or even 4070/80/etc would be an ouch if they come out with a new 5xxx series RTX in q4 as they are rumored to be doing.
I wasn’t planning on making a purchase too soon. I’m a weirdo that contemplates buying something for 6 months before I actually buy anything :rofl
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Without having to go through a planet's worth of bullshit that is being flung around, what type of PC are you looking for?
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Liar! Top-of-the-clock DX2s came to market just few days ago and they are sold only to handpicked individuals. I think they were all sold out to some yoghurt dealer.
:rofl
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I wasn’t planning on making a purchase too soon. I’m a weirdo that contemplates buying something for 6 months before I actually buy anything :rofl
Same, make that two weirdo’s :banana:
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Funny thing in electronics, 6 months is a lifetime.
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Funny thing in electronics, 6 months is a lifetime.
Agreed. When I shop for electronics I have a 6 month window. If something is not due to come out within the next 6 months then I don't consider it when purchasing. I also look for the "big" improvements. The small improvements happen pretty much continuously.
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You want to look at need also. If you plan to do high res VR you can't buy too much horsepower. If not VR then you won't see much difference between a $2K system and a $3K system.
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Every time I plan on buying a new PC I don't look for the absolute "bleeding edge". I look for the tech level that has been out for about a year or so. They aren't that far back in performance, and there has been time to correct any issues in chip design / board reliability. For my needs that has been more than enough performance for what I do and the cost is always lower than the hottest newest gizmo.
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Yep….. me too.
Same goes for software.