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Title: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: ULPink on May 28, 2020, 07:39:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqktCR0xSCw
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: perdue3 on May 28, 2020, 12:44:08 PM
Nice kill on Picko, he talks a lot for a Yak pilot. Engine off at the top though  :uhoh
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: ULPink on May 28, 2020, 01:10:57 PM
Nice kill on Picko, he talks a lot for a Yak pilot. Engine off at the top though  :uhoh
It helps me flip it around faster or roll faster to the right.  Picko is really good and has been really nice.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: LNG15 on May 28, 2020, 01:34:14 PM
Perd that's Picko Jr. (Logan) He flys with Fariz in the MA. Usually his father flys under Picko for FSO but son comes on in the MA.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: perdue3 on May 28, 2020, 04:43:29 PM
Perd that's Picko Jr. (Logan) He flys with Fariz in the MA. Usually his father flys under Picko for FSO but son comes on in the MA.

I've known his father for years, good guy and funny guy. I like the younger, too.


The engine off is gamey and lame. I know why and how it is useful, just a weak crutch in my opinion.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: FLS on May 28, 2020, 07:39:10 PM
It helps me flip it around faster or roll faster to the right.  Picko is really good and has been really nice.

Have you tried just pulling the throttle to minimum?
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: ULPink on May 29, 2020, 12:25:20 AM
Have you tried just pulling the throttle to minimum?

May have been my stick,,, my new one is so much smoother.  Now I have to relearn the muscle memory stuff and where all my new buttons are.  Fun!
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Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: FLS on May 29, 2020, 02:07:04 PM
When I train I often recommend players put together a little aerobatic sequence to learn their aircraft and then they can use it to evaluate and compare other aircraft. It can also be useful for getting used to new equipment.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: SPKmes on May 29, 2020, 02:30:09 PM
you should have spent a little more  ( I Know, I know we aren't all loaded) and got a stick with throttle control....  using buttons to control the throttle would suck ...  mind you.. doesn't seem to hinder Lazer at all.... but he's a freak so...you can't help that  hahaha
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: Eagler on May 30, 2020, 07:04:02 AM
IMHO it is just sad when anyone has to kill their engine in a dogfight at anytime

Some very good pilots resort to it when they are losing a close A2A engagement

Just gaming the game

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Eagler
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: Shuffler on May 30, 2020, 07:25:01 AM
A simple fix is to make air restart more lengthy and a bit iffy.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: LCADolby on May 30, 2020, 07:33:05 AM
It's nothing more than a placebo effect to gaining an advantage where there is none.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: FLS on May 30, 2020, 08:43:55 AM
If you're flying a Dr1 or a Camel it's historically accurate, but more for landing than dogfighting.  :aok
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: ULPink on May 31, 2020, 06:29:31 PM
There are many gamey things that occur in this game.  We are not in reality, we are flying a game where there is no severe weather, no wind, no turbulence, engines always run unless starved of fuel or oil and where tanks can shoot down airplanes with their main gun...
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: FLS on May 31, 2020, 07:52:47 PM
We have wind. You can set a crosswind at ground level if you want some fun landing. Turbulence is not feasible at this time. Severe weather grounded aircraft in WW2. We always have brand new engines so we avoid a lot of problems from wear and tear. We get to practice for more years than the war lasted so difficult shots are more likely. But the MA is designed as a game environment, the scenarios are a more realistic simulation.

Practice vertical reversals with the engine on and use the throttle when it helps rotate the nose down.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: Eagler on June 01, 2020, 07:24:38 AM
Then some try to justify gaming the game..

The engine air start is one thing that should be turned off in this game IMO

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Eagler
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: Shuffler on June 01, 2020, 09:03:14 AM
Just make air starts less dependable. That should fix it.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: FLS on June 01, 2020, 11:39:02 AM
Why do you guys think it's a problem that needs fixing?

Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 01, 2020, 12:46:32 PM
Why do you guys think it's a problem that needs fixing?

It was already fixed many, many years ago.  Currently, turning off the engine in a fight to turn tighter or bring the noise over quicker at stall speeds in vertical turns is in the mind of the player.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: FLS on June 01, 2020, 01:54:55 PM
I don't disagree, I was just wondering why some people still think it's an issue.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: Spikes on June 01, 2020, 01:57:02 PM
It definitely isn't a widely-used tactic, in fact I only know of two people who have ever used it consistently.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: ACE on June 02, 2020, 07:49:32 AM
You should try adjusting your deadband and dampening to get your joystick more accurate. Your nose is bouncing all over the place causing you to miss shots and waste Energy.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: TWCAxew on June 04, 2020, 07:51:23 AM
I dont see the problem with turning off the engine. When i try hard i do it as well at the top of climbs to rope. It makes your plane more controllable. When something is implemented in the game one should be allowed to use it. It is not the same as HOing and vulching.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: Eagler on June 04, 2020, 08:20:26 AM
Just make air starts less dependable. That should fix it.

Yes I would say as dependable as they were in the real aircraft

Eagler
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: perdue3 on June 04, 2020, 12:06:14 PM
I dont see the problem with turning off the engine. When i try hard i do it as well at the top of climbs to rope. It makes your plane more controllable. When something is implemented in the game one should be allowed to use it. It is not the same as HOing and vulching.

Dutch, admit that it is gamey and can't be done reliably or effectively in other sims, let alone a real airplane.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: TWCAxew on June 05, 2020, 12:26:53 AM
Dutch, admit that it is gamey and can't be done reliably or effectively in other sims, let alone a real airplane.

The only thing i said here was that it is in game and should not raise any eyebrows when used. As it stands now it does improve ones controlled stalling ability when used proper and is thus some form of skill when implemented in ones flying and i have done it extensively in the past as well.

When being in a flat spin in a bf 110 for example turning off the engine helps pulling out of the stall. Unless you have a dual throttle like me you wont be able to pull out otherwise.

I am not opposing the the following wish by any means.
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,400274.0.html
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: FESS67 on June 05, 2020, 12:32:18 AM
The only thing i said here was that it is in game and should not raise any eyebrows when used. As it stands now it does improve ones controlled stalling ability when used proper and is thus some form of skill when implemented in ones flying and i have done it extensively in the past as well.

When being in a flat spin in a bf 110 for example turning off the engine helps pulling out of the stall. Unless you have a dual throttle like me you wont be able to pull out otherwise.

I am not opposing the the following wish by any means.
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,400274.0.html

Not just in two engined planes.  I was often victim of the spitfire's ability to flat spin at the top of a very marginal loop and engine off = recovery quickly.  Engine on = ride it for ages until the earth stopped play.
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: LCADolby on June 05, 2020, 03:58:15 AM
To me FESS, this reads as, "I didn't drain the Top tank first."
Title: Re: More Fun in Aces High lll
Post by: ULPink on June 07, 2020, 08:04:53 PM
You should try adjusting your deadband and dampening to get your joystick more accurate. Your nose is bouncing all over the place causing you to miss shots and waste Energy.

I got a new stick, old one was spiking all over the place