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Title: Zombie's
Post by: 1Cane on January 18, 2023, 02:35:40 PM
My oldest daughter was a store manager in North Seatle. Recently an addict was stabbing himself with his needle and bleeding really good. He tried to enter store, so they locked him out. He then proceeded to lean and touch the store front getting blood everywhere. People were kept in store for 2 hours until police arrived. It gets better though a person was shot in the alley behind the store and police arrived in 45 minutes. If you are still there 45 minutes after shooting someone, I think you should go to jail. This is not knocking the police they are swamped with the situation. There is a happy ending she took a higher paying job OUTSIDE of Seattle:x :x :x
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: AKIron on January 18, 2023, 03:15:38 PM
Texas is hiring.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 18, 2023, 03:26:31 PM
Zombies is a good analogy for those people that I have used before,  and it's one of the reasons we left Portland. It's amazing to me how those people stay alive during the winter. It's a legit slow motion zombie apocalypse out there. The only fix is scooping them up and taking them to a farm where they are forced off the drugs and made to pick fruit for $3 an hour until they can save up enough to leave, get an apartment, and live on their own. There would be businesses who could work with the farm to hire people who have improved. It would be great for tax paying citizens who have to put up with littering and disgust from these people. I was fed up having to pay 4k a year property taxes for the mess. These people should not be allowed to be free loaders, but shouldn't be in jail. They need a health center farm to be carried off to. The drugs like meth and heroin are just too strong and ruining the populations out there. It's causing crime, disease, and business to shut down and no one wants to visit a trash dump for vacation.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Shuffler on January 18, 2023, 04:59:04 PM
Not the drugs fault. We know drugs are bad..... those people took them anyway. Just bad people and bad people who support them and their crimes.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: turt21 on January 18, 2023, 05:00:38 PM
+1000
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 19, 2023, 02:57:06 AM
Not the drugs fault. We know drugs are bad..... those people took them anyway.

Did the question once occur 'why?'
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: mechanic on January 19, 2023, 08:07:56 AM
Zombies is a good analogy for those people that I have used before,  and it's one of the reasons we left Portland. It's amazing to me how those people stay alive during the winter. It's a legit slow motion zombie apocalypse out there. The only fix is scooping them up and taking them to a farm where they are forced off the drugs and made to pick fruit for $3 an hour until they can save up enough to leave, get an apartment, and live on their own. There would be businesses who could work with the farm to hire people who have improved. It would be great for tax paying citizens who have to put up with littering and disgust from these people. I was fed up having to pay 4k a year property taxes for the mess. These people should not be allowed to be free loaders, but shouldn't be in jail. They need a health center farm to be carried off to. The drugs like meth and heroin are just too strong and ruining the populations out there. It's causing crime, disease, and business to shut down and no one wants to visit a trash dump for vacation.


Sorry to say it bro, but being a tax paying citizen in 2023 equates to funding war, pharma crime and corruption. It's no wonder so many people turn to drugs to escape the reality.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Eagler on January 19, 2023, 08:47:05 AM

Sorry to say it bro, but being a tax paying citizen in 2023 equates to funding war, pharma crime and corruption. It's no wonder so many people turn to drugs to escape the reality.

While all that is true...drug abuse has been around as long as drugs have

It's a weakness of personal will that sends most down that rabbit hole imo

Yes something might trigger that first taste but their weakness is what kept them there

Then you have abuse like Michael Jackson and Prince...

Weakness of personal will imo

Some can't seem to handle that free will thing very well..

Eagler
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 19, 2023, 09:35:51 AM

Sorry to say it bro, but being a tax paying citizen in 2023 equates to funding war, pharma crime and corruption. It's no wonder so many people turn to drugs to escape the reality.

I'm with you. I've been trying to create a #nationaltaxboycott for a while, but no big names want to get behind it. Crazy we pay 25-40% of salary in taxes and sales tax and property tax while they continue to print trillions and tell us "it needs to happen" bastages man.

While all that is true...drug abuse has been around as long as drugs have

It's a weakness of personal will that sends most down that rabbit hole imo

Yes something might trigger that first taste but their weakness is what kept them there

Then you have abuse like Michael Jackson and Prince...

Weakness of personal will imo

Some can't seem to handle that free will thing very well..

Eagler

You have to realize that some of these power drugs like Heroin have not been around and accessible like they are now, atleast in America before 1990 when we started dabbling in the middle east. It's really bad over there too. The issue is that one hit can instantly addict you and then you find yourself spending $300 a week on it. Things like DMT, THC, and Shrooms have been around for a while used by the native American population for a more spiritual connection. I feel if used correctly, could actually really help a lot of people. I experienced a rather spiritual awakening on DMT in college that completely changed my outlook on the natural world.

Now you say it's weakness or what have you. However it's part of the natural sense to experiment. Some of these drugs are too damn powerful and addict folks so hard that they cannot stop. It's more like a weapon than a drug. These types were not used until really the mid 80s when crack came, but it got way worse with heroin and meth, now fentenyl which I consider a chemical war attack on Americans and should be dealt as such. IMO throwing all "drugs" into a large box saying they are all bad is not right. Some people would be better off being able to go a place with friends under the supervision of doctors and be administerd DMT or Schrooms, then be forced to spend the night there. It would create a far better approach than just "don't do drugs because we said so" everyone knows kids break rules and don't always listen to adults, so doing them recreationally behind the parents/adults backs is what we see today. Unless the supply of these power drugs can be stopped, more and more will fall pray, even if they don't intend to. Children are weak minded in that sense and it's up to adults to make sure they don't fall pray. It's just that many teens are far more persuaded by peer pressure and accessibility to the drugs which makes the situation very difficult.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Maverick on January 19, 2023, 09:37:24 AM
Did the question once occur 'why?'

When I was a brand new rookie, less that 4 months out on the street. I had to respond to a call in the inside the city Pasqua reservation. It was a disturbing the peace call with a heroin addict as the problem. I asked him if he understood that using the drug could and likely would kill him, he said yes. I then asked him why he used it. The answer was simple, "because it felt so good".

You cannot prevent folks who are that weak minded from themselves.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 19, 2023, 10:53:35 AM
You cannot prevent folks who are that weak minded from themselves.

Just bad people and bad people who support them and their crimes.

It's a weakness of personal will

Weakness of personal will imo

Interestingly consistent hypothesis. Just going to stop there then?


When I was a brand new rookie, less that 4 months out on the street. I had to respond to a call in the inside the city Pasqua reservation. It was a disturbing the peace call with a heroin addict as the problem. I asked him if he understood that using the drug could and likely would kill him, he said yes. I then asked him why he used it. The answer was simple, "because it felt so good".

Yes naturally it feels good. Cuts right to the core behavioural-mechanisms of the primitive creature within. What chance does willpower, good character or knowing better have against a swift shortcut to a euphoric state entirely detached from your situation or future. Especially if you were disenfranchised from society from birth, or abused, or ostracised...
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: TryHard on January 19, 2023, 05:26:02 PM

Sorry to say it bro, but being a tax paying citizen in 2023 equates to funding war, pharma crime and corruption. It's no wonder so many people turn to drugs to escape the reality.

So lets make a bad situation worse!
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 20, 2023, 02:50:41 PM

Sorry to say it bro, but being a tax paying citizen in 2023 equates to funding war, snip


So Ukraine getting the ability to defend itself (multiple countries sending aid that comes from taxpayer monies) is a bad thing. That's a hot take.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 20, 2023, 03:06:37 PM
So Ukraine getting the ability to defend itself (multiple countries sending aid that comes from taxpayer monies)...

Surely that is incidental?
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 20, 2023, 04:10:40 PM
Surely that is incidental?

Is it?  How about when there is some natural disaster and .govs send all kinds of economic and other resources, is that incidental?
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: RotBaron on January 20, 2023, 07:48:48 PM


So Ukraine getting the ability to defend itself (multiple countries sending aid that comes from taxpayer monies) is a bad thing. That's a hot take.

War in Ukraine is another $ scheme. Rich are paying themselves and cronies as usual, like Iraq, Afghanistan… The demand to have accountability and transparency into where every $ is going for “aid” to Ukraine has been laughed at by the DC crooks. And yet yesterday given $2 billion more   :rolleyes:  :bhead
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 21, 2023, 12:47:29 AM
Is it?  How about when there is some natural disaster and .govs send all kinds of economic and other resources, is that incidental?

Is this an invitation to argue so you can defend your faith which is suggested by your employment of a formal fallacy or a genuine question?
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: mechanic on January 21, 2023, 04:53:25 AM


So Ukraine getting the ability to defend itself (multiple countries sending aid that comes from taxpayer monies) is a bad thing. That's a hot take.


This is a very deep rabbit hole that I'm pretty sure you don't want to go down with me. Or maybe you would enjoy the discussion. Either way, we'll get the thread locked. :neener:
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Eagler on January 21, 2023, 07:47:54 AM
War in Ukraine is another $ scheme. Rich are paying themselves and cronies as usual, like Iraq, Afghanistan… The demand to have accountability and transparency into where every $ is going for “aid” to Ukraine has been laughed at by the DC crooks. And yet yesterday given $2 billion more   :rolleyes:  :bhead

This

And they twist it to if you ask for any accountability or other questions..you are a traitor and a Russian bot

It is criminal these days in so many ways..

Eagler
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 21, 2023, 03:43:53 PM
This

And they twist it to if you ask for any accountability or other questions..you are a traitor and a Russian bot

It is criminal these days in so many ways..

Eagler

 :aok
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 21, 2023, 03:48:55 PM
Is this an invitation to argue so you can defend your faith which is suggested by your employment of a formal fallacy or a genuine question?

Answering with another question... expected.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 21, 2023, 03:54:15 PM
Answering with another question... expected.


Surely that is incidental?

Is it?

 :rofl
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 21, 2023, 04:00:17 PM
There's only two explanations that you would think the defence of the Ukraine is what's mainly going on: you're so indoctrinated by your own propaganda or too daft to see through it (which amounts to the same) or you stand to gain from what's really happening even if it's just bones thrown from you lords' table.

At least we're back on topic: zombies.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: AKIron on January 21, 2023, 04:56:15 PM
Musical Interlude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 21, 2023, 06:25:27 PM
There's only two explanations that you would think the defence of the Ukraine is what's mainly going on: you're so indoctrinated by your own propaganda or too daft to see through it (which amounts to the same) or you stand to gain from what's really happening even if it's just bones thrown from you lords' table.

At least we're back on topic: zombies.

Bless your heart.

Stop attributing things to me which I never stated

I never said anything about, "mainly". That said the US has 26.7 billion in military aid, no small number and close to 50 billion with humanitarian and direct financial.

Ohh, you should also look up the word "rhetorical".



Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Meatwad on January 21, 2023, 06:43:15 PM
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 22, 2023, 04:09:34 AM
Bless your heart.

"Bless your heart" is a phrase common to the Southern United States.[1][2] The phrase has multiple meanings and is used to express genuine sympathy but more often as an insult that conveys condescension, derision, or contempt.

Would love a productive discussion amongst civilised, educated and well-meaning people with the goal to find an equitable non-violent solution. You could call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. But is not likely to happen. Not here, not now and frankly not at this stage of human development, anymore - a different road was chosen.


I never said anything about, "mainly". That said the US has 26.7 billion in military aid, no small number and close to 50 billion with humanitarian and direct financial.

It's nothing bud. The proportions of morality-of-payment are entirely a red-herring. It's a tiny, insignificant down payment on a business venture that stands to return uncountable billions for the next generation and-a-half at least. One calculation suggested it was roughly 1% of your actual 'defence' budget, with no American casualties and comfortably off the radar of those inconvenient private citizens who protested the Vietnam war, for instance. Surely the best and most exciting investment adventure to date!

Differences aside let's all face it: The wars will never stop, it'll just shift from here to there while jingoistic terminology, propaganda and here's-what's-in-it-for-our-faction is all that's needed to neutralise objections from the general population, too stressed, uneducated, busy and competing over petty things to cohesively move forward. A perpetual flirtation with self-destruction, weapons-production, environmental disaster (for us, not the planet) and enslavement of a species which has the potential to do something better. But you think you're so clever, and classless and free.


Ohh, you should also look up the word "rhetorical".

Hmmm, perhaps we should better all look up the word 'defence'.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Eagler on January 22, 2023, 07:21:33 AM
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/05/how-perpetual-war-became-us-ideology/238600/

Almost 12 years old and as true as ever...

Wars are way too profitable for them to ever go away

Our leaders will always find a reason to try to turn us against each other for their profit and control

War not peace is what is wanted if not almost needed for the sick and bloated consumption based economy to keep sputtering along.

Eagler
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 22, 2023, 09:01:10 AM
You started the conveyance condescension, just following your example.

At least we're back on topic: zombies.

Now for

It's nothing bud. The proportions of morality-of-payment are entirely a red-herring. It's a tiny, insignificant down payment on a business venture that stands to return uncountable billions for the next generation and-a-half at least. One calculation suggested it was roughly 1% of your actual 'defence' budget, with no American casualties and comfortably off the radar of those inconvenient private citizens who protested the Vietnam war, for instance. Surely the best and most exciting investment adventure to date!


Who paid or the development, construction and testing of equipment sent?  ( There's that pesky rhetorical again.)
Ohh and there have been American casualties, as a matter of fact an AWOL SEAL was killed.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-seal-daniel-swift-killed-ukraine-official-says/

Also, would you like WW3? Because any direct US involvement, that's what you get.  Complaining about the amount US aid and the size of its defense budget is laughable.  Since ww2, Uncle Sugar's defense budget has allowed Europe to neglect theirs.

Hmmm, perhaps we should better all look up the word 'defence'.

As far as funding a budget for? Yea Europe should.
 
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 22, 2023, 03:17:20 PM
Who paid or the development, construction and testing of equipment sent?  ( There's that pesky rhetorical again.)

Yeah yeah, it is perfectly reasonable to expect a return on your investment. Only, you'd be singing a different anti-war tune if it was your children crushed to death under exploded concrete. You do of course realise you've supported my point: you evaluate all things as business.


Ohh and there have been American casualties, as a matter of fact an AWOL SEAL was killed.

A solider who has been listed as an active deserter since 2019, not acting as an official representative of the American government and what is your point, that he was brave and a hero? Sounds like he was combat thirsty to me. You know your problem KnorB, you've been marinaded in your jingoistic propaganda for so long you've come to worship it and you mistake that for truth and justice and thinking for yourself. Zombie.


Also, would you like WW3? Because any direct US involvement, that's what you get. 

I'm sorry if this offends others here present: Absence of US involvement would not have us at the brink of WW3 again in the first place and no free-thinking person outside of the US has not considered or become aware of this. In fact some of your more erudite thinkers have and are saying that too, but you have that handled nicely since about 1947. Just attach a label and go on with your day as if that's an argument. They aren't rich anyway, otherwise they wouldn't be thinkers.


Complaining about the amount US aid and the size of its defense budget is laughable.  Since ww2, Uncle Sugar's defense budget has allowed Europe to neglect theirs.

I did no such thing. Your 'defence' budget is approximately 2.5 times larger than your closet single potential opponent. Do you expect an impending invasion from the Canadians perhaps? Do you know where that ratio comes from? Or another ratio perhaps. North Americans approximately 7% of the world's population controlling approximately 45% of it's wealth and resources. Is that simply because you're awesome? And then you complain about others not helping to pay the bill for your empire. Get stuffed. There is only one end-game to this and it is ultimately the destruction of organised civilisation.


KnorB and his swaggering inflexible Russian Federation-like ignorance aside, for anyone that's actually interested in a genuine experiential opinion. I live here, in Europe. We have Ukrainians living amongst us. They look very USSR in mannerism and attitude and civility but you can see they like the flavour of 'the West'. More broadly the European feeling or movement amongst the non-juvenile people of Europe is that the time to use war to settle these differences and distributions ought to be behind us. Do you wonder that the Germans baulk at sending Leopards. 70 years of peace here destroyed by what now appears to be (according to evidence) a deliberately cornered animal like Putin and you'd like us to be grateful.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Oldman731 on January 22, 2023, 03:38:03 PM
what now appears to be (according to evidence) a deliberately cornered animal like Putin


Perhaps you could expand on this?

- oldman
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 22, 2023, 04:53:46 PM
Snip

Euros:  US military involved in too many overseas activities.
Also Euros: REEEEEEE do something about MUhhh Russsia reeeeeeeee!



Womanly reasoning at it's finest.

Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: RotBaron on January 22, 2023, 09:30:46 PM
2014 Sochi Olympics - February

2014 Crimean takeover began 3 days before closing ceremonies. Where was the outrage, boycott of closing ceremonies…?

The supposed corroborating or “boot licking” that one here loves to say, apparently began beforehand  :headscratch:

In times of peace (mostly) the world criticizes the US for meddling, in times of war…
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 23, 2023, 12:50:31 AM
Womanly reasoning at it's finest.

Water off a duck's back mate. Last American to 'accuse' me of being womanlike was Judge in the MA who proceeded to display his presumably more brave position on the masculinity spectrum by running away from every fight he lost advantage in. So your attempted insult is like the rest of it, hollow.


Euros:  US military involved in too many overseas activities.
Also Euros: REEEEEEE do something about MUhhh Russsia reeeeeeeee!


Most everybody outside of the US: It's not cool to assassinate leaders of foreign nations, overthrow regimes and meddle with the autonomy of nations and start wars to harvest the wealth of the world for yourself and pay for the monster of a military to keep doing it.
US: Putin hacked our paper ballot boxes, that's why Trump didn't get re-elected.


Perhaps you could expand on this?

Is this a genuine question asking me to evidence my claim in the interests of a reasonable discussion amongst educated people of good will or another rhetorical question? KnorB advised me to watch for those.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Eagler on January 23, 2023, 07:17:58 AM
2014 Sochi Olympics - February

2014 Crimean takeover began 3 days before closing ceremonies. Where was the outrage, boycott of closing ceremonies…?

The supposed corroborating or “boot licking” that one here loves to say, apparently began beforehand  :headscratch:

In times of peace (mostly) the world criticizes the US for meddling, in times of war…

Maybe the lack of a reaction to that in 2014 had something to do with the contested election the US was accused of swinging ealier that year...

Maybe that is where all of the Ukrainian issues today started..

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

Probably where all the election corruption speak began..

Eagler
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Oldman731 on January 23, 2023, 08:29:18 AM
Is this a genuine question asking me to evidence my claim in the interests of a reasonable discussion amongst educated people of good will or another rhetorical question? KnorB advised me to watch for those.


It is indeed a genuine question.

- oldman
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 23, 2023, 08:45:58 AM
Water off a duck's back mate. Last American to 'accuse' me of being womanlike was Judge in the MA who proceeded to display his presumably more brave position on the masculinity spectrum by running away from every fight he lost advantage in. So your attempted insult is like the rest of it, hollow.

 You, (Euros in general) thought process is most female like.  Stop interfering.... why aren't you helping. 

Most everybody outside of the US: It's not cool to assassinate leaders of foreign nations, overthrow regimes and meddle with the autonomy of nations and start wars to harvest the wealth of the world for yourself and pay for the monster of a military to keep doing it.
US: Putin hacked our paper ballot boxes, that's why Trump didn't get re-elected.
Name the "leader" assasinated. LOL as for Trump.  You better talk to some US lefties because they all think Trump and Putin are BFFs and The Pman is hat cause killery to lose.




Also, when this thread now gets locked... You did it with the mention of the Tman. 



Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Shuffler on January 23, 2023, 09:45:52 AM
I would prefer we quit proping up other countries. Why should I be supporting their family?
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 23, 2023, 11:05:06 AM
I would prefer we quit proping up other countries. Why should I be supporting their family?


 :aok
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Eagler on January 23, 2023, 11:38:35 AM
I would prefer we quit proping up other countries. Why should I be supporting their family?

Probably due to our involvement in that country since 2014 and b4...someone's son was getting millions from them for doing nothing...

How about the millions of your $$$ going to the hospitality industry to now house and feed 10's of 1000's of illegal immigrants in our liberal cities...even ny is beetching about it

https://youtu.be/6of1tqW6ZmM

Eagler
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 23, 2023, 01:56:48 PM
I would prefer we quit proping up other countries. Why should I be supporting their family?

You do not prop up other countries. You depend on your allies absolutely for your sustainment. Otherwise it's what, paying out of the goodness of your hearts. Do me a lemon flavour. This has all been analysed and quantified and described long ago.


You, (Euros in general) thought process is most female like.  Stop interfering.... why aren't you helping. 

 :rofl this is pure weirdness right here. Wtf are you talking about ape-man? I know females who would run rings around you intellectually, in emotional-intelligence, strength of character and integrity. What is your point, that you are physically stronger and can pick heavy things up. That's impressive brah. They've got electric forklifts over here you troglodyte throwback. Why don't you come over here and tell a female Dutch Royal Marine to make you a sammich. She'll turn you into a popsicle on the end of her telescopic baton. Fatty.  :aok


Also, when this thread now gets locked... You did it with the mention of the Tman. 

Trump Trump Trump, there you go, once the thread is locked the ungrateful Europeans will stop challenging your delusional denialist fantasies. Own it, if you want to act like this, and face up to the consequences of this responsibly or stop acting like this.

I can PM you Oldman731, if you are genuinely and objectively interested. Frankly I'm wary if this is another BS-strategy. Sorry if you are serious.

Woman-like, Judas priest what a bunch of country Nork-heads  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Oldman731 on January 23, 2023, 03:16:09 PM
I can PM you Oldman731, if you are genuinely and objectively interested. Frankly I'm wary if this is another BS-strategy. Sorry if you are serious.


Please do.  I'm wondering if there's another AJP Taylor out there.

- oldman
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Shuffler on January 23, 2023, 03:16:12 PM
You do not prop up other countries. You depend on your allies absolutely for your sustainment. Otherwise it's what, paying out of the goodness of your hearts. Do me a lemon flavour. This has all been analysed and quantified and described long ago.


 :rofl this is pure weirdness right here. Wtf are you talking about ape-man? I know females who would run rings around you intellectually, in emotional-intelligence, strength of character and integrity. What is your point, that you are physically stronger and can pick heavy things up. That's impressive brah. They've got electric forklifts over here you troglodyte throwback. Why don't you come over here and tell a female Dutch Royal Marine to make you a sammich. She'll turn you into a popsicle on the end of her telescopic baton. Fatty.  :aok


Trump Trump Trump, there you go, once the thread is locked the ungrateful Europeans will stop challenging your delusional denialist fantasies. Own it, if you want to act like this, and face up to the consequences of this responsibly or stop acting like this.

I can PM you Oldman731, if you are genuinely and objectively interested. Frankly I'm wary if this is another BS-strategy. Sorry if you are serious.

Woman-like, Judas priest what a bunch of country Nork-heads  :rofl :rofl

I can depend on my Allies. It is the people who need handouts that I can't really depend on. If you can't stand on your own two feet, how can I depend on you.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: knorB on January 23, 2023, 06:14:49 PM
snip
More bravado from the insignificant.  Beg for more aid.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 24, 2023, 04:45:38 AM
I can depend on my Allies. It is the people who need handouts that I can't really depend on. If you can't stand on your own two feet, how can I depend on you.

You are like a Roland keyboard Shuffler. Just press on you in certain shapes and certain predictable sounds come out with a similar amount of minimal internal processing.


More bravado from the insignificant.  Beg for more aid.

Does not matter a jot who says a thing. It's what they say that matters. Anywhere outside of the US apparently. Unlike your Ad hominem, which when used against someone not arguing from authority is fallacious no matter who says it.

The Ukranian's are begging for aid to wriggle-out of a situation you AT LEAST complicity allowed to unfold with full foreknowledge and preparation, including the presentation of Mad-Dog Putin's battle plan presented in its entirety and detail to them in the first 24-hours, along with your loan contracts and lend-lease agreements dividing up the next 70-years of their productivity & natural resources (at least) sitting on a plane with a dozen fountain pens on standby. And there's Shuffler, rolling down the freeway in his truck, drinking soda and not having to trouble his tiny mind with the bloody and graphic consequences for civilians.

And you think this is strength and power. Shall we look up the word racketeering together Bronk? You do like the dictionary game I observe  :)

And no, for the rest of you I do not dislike Americans or think you are especially culpable in a lot of this. I've been there and I know there are people of good will and intention there. America was not great when you were all having a marvellous lifestyle and having lots of shiny toys. It was great when you represented a beacon of freedom and justice and acted with morality, nobility and bravery which you have several times since WW2 usually without gratitude or profit, it has to be said.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Shuffler on January 24, 2023, 05:16:46 AM
You are like a Roland keyboard Shuffler. Just press on you in certain shapes and certain predictable sounds come out with a similar amount of minimal internal processing.




More than likely you live under the umbrella of those handouts. I'll just ignore your inconsideration and say.... you are welcome.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 24, 2023, 06:34:45 AM
More than likely you live under the umbrella of those handouts. I'll just ignore your inconsideration and say.... you are welcome.

Again, not 'handouts'. Kickbacks is more accurate and private citizens do not benefit from those.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Eagler on January 24, 2023, 08:01:27 AM
We have purchased our "allies" one way or another since ww2 and probably before that..

If we can't buy them we mess with their politics...

Ukraine is sad for its citizens but more a proxy profit war for its "allies" ... a nice way to dump weapons for a nice profit while getting those weapons replaced with fresh tax and printed $$$$ while watching their war monger stocks make them richer ... it lets them sleep at night thinking they are helping..

Eagler
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: TWCAxew on January 24, 2023, 09:13:03 AM
I hate these filthy Neutrals. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me. - Cap. Braddigan

In relation to the USA sponsoring the Ukrainian war and the USA "bought there allies multiple times over"
https://youtu.be/4aXi3lOmICI

"Dutch merchants also had a vested interest in avoiding a conflict with the British. As long as the Netherlands remained neutral, Dutch merchants could deliver goods to the American rebels on a large scale. Dutch gunpowder, arms and other goods were shipped to the rebellious provinces, mostly by way of the island of St."

Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Oldman731 on January 24, 2023, 08:05:04 PM

Please do.  I'm wondering if there's another AJP Taylor out there.

- oldman


Not to be irritating, but I'm still wondering how Putin became a cornered animal, presumably with fewer choices on what to do next.  Could be true, I just don't see it.

- Oldman the Curious
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Eviscerate on January 24, 2023, 08:37:51 PM
I would prefer we quit proping up other countries. Why should I be supporting their family?
Somewhat comical seeing as this forum/community wouldn't exist if the U.S. didn't prop up countries in the past.  :uhoh
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: Shuffler on January 25, 2023, 11:20:05 PM
Somewhat comical seeing as this forum/community wouldn't exist if the U.S. didn't prop up countries in the past.  :uhoh

Yes but like above... quite a few have no appreciation.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: nrshida on January 26, 2023, 12:36:46 AM
Yes but like above... quite a few have no appreciation.

You didn't comprehend his point.
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: detch01 on February 08, 2023, 07:15:31 PM

 :rofl this is pure weirdness right here. Wtf are you talking about ape-man? I know females who would run rings around you intellectually, in emotional-intelligence, strength of character and integrity. What is your point, that you are physically stronger and can pick heavy things up. That's impressive brah. They've got electric forklifts over here you troglodyte throwback. Why don't you come over here and tell a female Dutch Royal Marine to make you a sammich. She'll turn you into a popsicle on the end of her telescopic baton. Fatty.  :aok

OMG, this forum is as good as I remember it - snorted my scotch on this! Greatness! :rofl :x

asw :bolt:
Title: Re: Zombie's
Post by: oboe on February 09, 2023, 08:29:45 AM
I hate these filthy Neutrals. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me. - Cap. Braddigan

In relation to the USA sponsoring the Ukrainian war and the USA "bought there allies multiple times over"
https://youtu.be/4aXi3lOmICI

"Dutch merchants also had a vested interest in avoiding a conflict with the British. As long as the Netherlands remained neutral, Dutch merchants could deliver goods to the American rebels on a large scale. Dutch gunpowder, arms and other goods were shipped to the rebellious provinces, mostly by way of the island of St."



Thanks for this post, Dutch!   Very interesting.  I've subscribed to this channel now.