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Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 03, 2002, 12:45:20 PM
Hey All

Hungary is about done!.. way ahead of schedule . I need your A/C skins. Doesn’t have to be historical just nice looking.

Kweassa sent me his 109F (green hearts) here it is;
(http://www.ilhawaii.net/~bear1/art/109f.gif)


(http://www.ilhawaii.net/~bear1/art/smoke1.gif)

I would like the whole stable of planes :)... well, if I can’t have that, at least do a make over on the plain gray LA-5N... she needs a face lift

EDIT: Use the 1024x size zip it up and click on sig below. (email window pops up)
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on December 03, 2002, 01:40:44 PM
pls post list, whichone skins u need


ramzey
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on December 03, 2002, 02:33:23 PM
btw u need grey or green la5?
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: Kweassa on December 03, 2002, 05:45:40 PM
I think green would be appropriate ramz :) The "soviet green" colored planes are soo cool :)
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: NUTTZ on December 03, 2002, 06:41:25 PM
10 Bears, You have contributed greatly making maps, and I am in noway criticizing your work, BUT.... I noticed on the 2 pics and your Greece map some tiles don't seam to be right. Theres a few tiles that aren't transitioning well and are leaving an abrupt line. Maybe you have one of the transitioning tiles mixed with another.

NUTTZ
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 03, 2002, 07:02:31 PM
tough toejam
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: Viper17 on December 03, 2002, 07:30:28 PM
I have 2 skins you might be interested in. This is the 109G6.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: Viper17 on December 03, 2002, 07:37:50 PM
I have 2 skins you might be interested in. The Hungarian 109G6 and 190F8. Im emailing them to you now. Tell me if you like them.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: gatso on December 03, 2002, 07:39:43 PM
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tough toejam
LMAO! :D

10Bears, If you want any of my hi res stuff email me.

F4F-4 as Martlett I/III
Hurri IIc 'Nickie' (above three in Greece already as 256x256)
Typh JP504
Temp Closterman/Stafford

Any other specifics I'll see what I can do.

Gatso
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 03, 2002, 08:44:07 PM
Ramzey Yes!

Green is fine.. green euro camo like that..

Trying to see if I could use some of Tilt's Nieman skins.. he has B26 and C47 land lease to USSR.. But didn't the U.S send some Reno racing P51s to Russia?... Yes.. I do believe they did.. an undocumented fact.

Naw :).. send what you have..

Gatso, Yes, have the martlets but send more.. I like the 1024x size you can add more details.

Nuttz, correcting tiles as I go.   Hungary I'm using "rock" as farmland2 and it's a little trick how to get em' to all jive. This Euro style farmland has a lot of pie-shaped pieces so the parts that normally wouldn't fit work in this case. I know tile9 and tile12 have to be Xs otherwise the program doesn't know which one to use...

Oh yeah, gonna credit you guys artwork at the bottom of cb map.
missed Gatso last time on Greece map sorry about that.. won't happen again.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: NUTTZ on December 03, 2002, 08:56:16 PM
NP, sorry but your better than that. Looks like crap IMO. Like i'm playing on a checker board takes away from emersion.

I was trying to be nice, and also help if i could,I guess thats something the AH BBS is not used to.

I guess i'll have to mugsling back from now on.

NUTTZ out


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Originally posted by 10Bears
tough toejam
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on December 03, 2002, 09:17:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 10Bears
But didn't the U.S send some Reno racing P51s to Russia?... Yes.. I do believe they did.. an undocumented fact.
 


u are wrong on that, russian have only one p51 MK1, from GB
We all know they are crap:) even russian pilots dont wont to fly on it:D :D

here u have list of land lease stuff
http://wio.boom.ru/tank/ll.htm
sowhere i saw list with dates of deliveres


give me couple day's to finish a20, la5.
i can reskin p40, and make green version of hurri

if u need smth else post list

ramzey
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 04, 2002, 02:50:48 AM
Ramzy just kidding... but maybe.... just maybe aw c'mon what no tricked out racing P38s or P51s sent to Russia?... keep looking :).. Undocumented fact.


Nuttz you don't want to go down that road w/ me.

Viper thx for 109g and 190 skins.. that looks really nice.. however, kweassa's 109F in 1024x worked.. yours CTD when I tried to build. It will work in 256x so it's cool.. wonder why one works and the other doesn't.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: cobra427 on December 04, 2002, 03:00:14 AM
hey i had a green camo la5 in the works a while ago .... i could work on it again and post a pic so u can see if its good enough
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: cobra427 on December 04, 2002, 03:14:20 AM
its not done i havent really done anything to it yet still have to add the weathering and details ....
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 04, 2002, 05:22:04 AM
Hmmm nice Cobra :)... yeah....
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: cobra427 on December 04, 2002, 07:21:37 AM
k its pretty much done if anyone wants to add something just ask for the bmps ..... 10bears if ya want ill send it to ya even if it doesnt get in the map

there seems to be a small bug or something in the wings circled in the pic

i didnt know what type of markings to add so i did the original ones
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: cobra427 on December 04, 2002, 07:25:29 AM
oh and btw i lost the old files ... so i had to start it over ... did that in one knight .... i know its not much but its alot for me :)
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: gatso on December 04, 2002, 05:09:17 PM
You want Reno skins? I played about a bit with a spit 14 and the 262 a while ago. I'll finish them if you could use them.

I'm sorting the whole bundle of mine in one go. Give me a day and I'll mail you the lot.

Gatso

(It's a copy of the paintwork worn by a Hunter here in the UK, Miss Demeanour BTW)
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: WldThing on December 04, 2002, 05:15:51 PM
WoW gatso.  

That looks cool :)
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: gatso on December 04, 2002, 05:34:52 PM
Thanks  :D Needs stars adding and a couple of bugs to hunt down yet.

Gatso
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 04, 2002, 09:37:50 PM
Gatso that is so cool :)... yeah.. landlease Peter Max 262s.. now yer talking :)

cc Cobra that will work very well thx..
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: Viper17 on December 06, 2002, 05:39:23 PM
10Bears did you receiv the 109/190 skin file?
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 06, 2002, 06:08:35 PM
I'm sorry my bad!!! you didn't put your name on email, ok ok.. Viper! Yes! I had t reduce them to 256x per higher ups but they look great thx!
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: Duedel on December 06, 2002, 07:13:25 PM
Paint scheme from the Hungarian 102/2 Jabo squadron.

(http://eurohost.webmatrixhosting.net/Duedel/FW190.jpg)
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 06, 2002, 08:38:41 PM
Duedel, very nice :).. yes, please send. I have the 190F8 by Viper already.. so this on any of the other 190s.. looks beautiful

Right on so we have Cobra's LA5N, Kweassa"s 109F, Gatso's... heheh, Viper's 109G and 190F also with with Hungarian markings.

Still waiting for "yaks from hell", JU88s that have "been through war" lend lease B26,

No need for C47 on this map, you gv dweebs start smoochin' up t me right now.. you still gotta drive 8 miles but at least it's on a road..

Whoa! watch out for that convoy!

No heavy duty hills for gvs..

Hey come to think of it you'll be seeing a lot of trucks on this map.. that would be a good thing to skin.. the trucks..

I'd like a passenger car for a train..


Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on December 06, 2002, 11:52:34 PM
here u have b26
http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/B26/

also
http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/

other skins
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: Duedel on December 07, 2002, 05:41:11 AM
Thx 10Bears. I have a problem with the yellow markings on the left wing. It overlaps the HUngarian airforce symbol, Viper any suggestions.

The skin is not finished yet. 10Bears plz tell me until when u'll need it cause i have not many time to accomplish it.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: Viper17 on December 07, 2002, 03:36:28 PM
Duedel I just left it there. I kept trying to find and fix it but no such luck. (EDIT) I just recaled those skins I made are Slovak markings. I took em out of the "Ultimet GuId to Fighters". Sorry for missinformation.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: Fuzzy on December 08, 2002, 12:53:35 AM
Why the hostility towards NUTTZ? Seems he was just giving a little constructive criticism! Maybe something happened between ya in past, in that case NM.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: NUTTZ on December 08, 2002, 02:59:17 AM
Was wondering that myself.

NUTTZ

Quote
Originally posted by Fuzzy
Why the hostility towards NUTTZ? Seems he was just giving a little constructive criticism! Maybe something happened between ya in past, in that case NM.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 08, 2002, 12:47:18 PM
Thx Ramzies got em' fact I got a bunch of em off your page.  Very nice work!

Duedel, yellow line is ok. Should be no problem.. nice paint job.

Fuzzy, no hostility, he knows not to critisize when a project is still in the editor.. Those screenshots from early on. I didn't feel like writing a page or two on how not to get burnt out on a map project you jump back and forth.. lay a field here.. go over and fix a river there.. add a train yonder, bring some trucks yon. Out of the editor an' into paint shop pro.. Outta paint shop pro an' back into the editor... outta the editor.. back in ..  Well, he knows all this that's what he does too. ..

The challenge here.. is to make a bread basket European country.. A food producing country.. not look boring checker board.. more like grandma's quilt.  I hate repeating patterns as much as he does so the answer is to use another tile, with all it's transitions, as another section of farmland.. In this case I used "rock" then it's just a process of working it.. then working it some more, the ..what ever that is.. squash?.. the squash lines op with the origial squash.. the greenbeans line up with the other greenbeans and so forth till all the seam lines are covered. Once that's done you can go back and add little detail stuff on pieces that don't repeat very often. The effect is you fly over a streach of farmland, you don't see the same repeating patterns.. and it looks like it did when you were 9 years old and your father's friend took you up in his Cesna and let you take the yoke for a couple of minutes..

Does Nuttz think I wouldn't put in  natural challenge?.. now c'mon you've got to fly over the Carpanthian mountains to reach southern Poland.. There's plenty of mountains north and south of Vienna, border with Yugo.. only 8k this time but hey.. that's what it says in the Atlas. Hardly any farmland there, Farmland is mostly in center of map. Both Budapest and Vienna are big cities so you difnetly get the feeling of flying over a populated area.

Lets see Nuttz critisize all the gv spawn points from screenshots of this map.. I don't drive gvs much because on most maps not very much attention was paid to where the spawn points were laid. Here we have all the spawn points right at a roadway. A couple of farmhouses, some trees.. and a nice smooth 8 mile drive to your firing position. All the convoys routes are exactly 10 miles.. so they past you exactly 45 mph..

Extra boat spawns for river wars.. barges and tugs cruise by during the battle..

Oh no I would never critizise Nuttzs maps while they are still in production.. only the mapper knows what kind of theme he wants to go with on his project.. only he knows and starts getting ideas where he wants to place stuff.. bases get moved.. whole strat complexes get moved.. sometimes 5-10 times.. shoots..

I could've wrote all that the other day but Nuttz knows or should know what I mean.. "tough toejam wait yer turn, I'm still in the editor" like that.. street slang.. means the same as I don't wanna splan all this right now.

If d/l's "today's" version he won't see any seams.. I spent hours on that yesterday, even went back when the green frikin' peas were 20 feet off.

Meanwhile more planes are added, Ramzeys B26, C47 (not really needed except a couple of bases.. and I'm gonna fix those) looks nice though.. Frenchies alum P47.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: NUTTZ on December 08, 2002, 01:37:21 PM
10Bears, Please re-read this, I said i wasn't criticizing your work. Nowhere in this post do I say anything about GV spawn points OR having a Moire pattern within the tiles. I was pointing out the abrupt transitional lines, like a transitional tile was flipped flopped with another one. I posted this because i noticed this also in the Greece map, which is already released. I also know ALOT of work goes into these maps and I also overlook some things. My intent was hoping it was a minor mistake you overlooked and could easily fix once pointed out. It was NEVER intented to be a slam, but a friendly helpful post from one mapmaker to another.

I justed didn't expect to send out a helping hand and have it smacked.

Still no hostility here either:)

NUTTZ

Quote
Originally posted by NUTTZ
10 Bears, You have contributed greatly making maps, and I am in noway criticizing your work, BUT.... I noticed on the 2 pics and your Greece map some tiles don't seam to be right. Theres a few tiles that aren't transitioning well and are leaving an abrupt line. Maybe you have one of the transitioning tiles mixed with another.

NUTTZ
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on December 08, 2002, 06:57:03 PM
10Bears i cant chk my skin for a20, for som reason TE crash me:(

I upload A20 skin in to
http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/a20/
directory, if u need add som special markings, pls do that
If is smth wrong, post here i send u clean template without markings


ramzey
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 09, 2002, 02:54:27 PM
Ramzey, thank you very much, I double checked to see if you had left a tile 16 million.. you hadn't so I don't know what the problem was the A20 looks great thx again.

BTW- this map has part of southern Poland.. maybe you'd like to skin some planes that flew for back home eh?

Spit maybe?
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on December 09, 2002, 04:32:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 10Bears
BTW- this map has part of southern Poland.. maybe you'd like to skin some planes that flew for back home eh?

Spit maybe?


heh, after Jalta when we was sold by allies, to poland back only 2  or 3 spits . All the rest was yak 9 and yak 1m, couple ils10.

But TY i will think about that:))) but not in couple next day, mby next week /work/


ramzey
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on December 10, 2002, 07:36:47 AM
:) i change my minde , expect 5 new skins, for yak, spit mk 5, mk14 or mby mk9 /its allready polish:)/ and pony B-D


greetings

ramzey
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ChuBBs on December 10, 2002, 10:27:41 AM
must add this building to all towns.
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on December 28, 2002, 09:22:56 PM
lot of work in RL , delay new skins from paint workshop

now 2 yaks
they cant be ainted separaty, bith use same top wing surface butmaps. I start working on one , but after that secound need repaint.

Both are historical correct /allmost/

With red stars, airplane from 1Fighter polish division, late 1944
Second , oryginal polish markings, little incorrect ;)(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/YAK9/Jak-9.jpg)
(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/YAK9/yak-1.jpg)
 (http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/YAK9/yak-2.jpg)

skins here
here<----- (http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/YAK9/)

stil working on pony
ramzey
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 28, 2002, 11:29:06 PM
thx you Ramzey.. got em'
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: canesto on December 29, 2002, 12:29:56 PM
I've got a p51b Snowbird's re-skin in the works.  Still have a lot to do e.g. clean up fuselage, wings, underside

I think it might be a fun plane to fly in once it is complete and would be happy to give it to anyone who wants it.

The real deal:
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: canesto on December 29, 2002, 12:30:47 PM
What I have now:
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: canesto on December 29, 2002, 12:32:20 PM
And what I am working on:
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: cobra427 on December 29, 2002, 01:47:58 PM
i hope you noticed that the words are mirrored
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: canesto on December 30, 2002, 02:23:03 PM
As a matter of fact i did, but dont want to do  anything about it right now.

I just reformated my HD and dont have photoshop anymore, but i will get it fixed sometime soon
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on December 31, 2002, 02:24:04 AM
That sure looks nice canesto
 

I could use it, pls send
Thx
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on December 31, 2002, 08:18:53 AM
is sharp enough?


(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/p51-horba/HORBA1.jpg)

need 3-4 hour more  work
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: canesto on January 01, 2003, 12:18:51 PM
How do you get so much detail?
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on January 01, 2003, 12:40:54 PM
That looks sweet  Ramzeys
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on January 03, 2003, 08:28:44 PM
now low res pack:(

(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/p51-horba/horb1.jpg)

(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/p51-horba/horb2.jpg)

(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/p51-horba/horb3.jpg)

shins u can download here <------ (http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/p51-horba/)

ramzey
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: 10Bears on January 03, 2003, 08:50:03 PM
Got it Ramzey thx..

Sorry for plowing into you today ;)
Title: Hungary looking for A/C skins
Post by: ramzey on January 03, 2003, 09:19:54 PM
np 10Bears:) somtimes, somone must kick my  arse:)

here is another one, spit mk5
its not historical. Allways i spend 10-15 hour looking for historical data, this time is free style. But who know:) mby it was true painting?;)
(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/spit5-vvs/spit5-vvs.jpg)

skins here<--- (http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/skins/spit5-vvs/)

but pls chk it, its very late here and im a bit tired


greetings
ramzey