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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: P38Ace on June 05, 2021, 09:14:38 AM
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People keep asking me who I am or think I am a newbie because I have new BBS account. But I have flown AH for years - mainly knights. All that time never bothered to post or look at BBS. But now that numbers are dropping, I wanted to see what was going on. And I see a lot of whining about leaving, wanting Hitech to change the game, political correctness on CH200, blah blah blah. I say don't waist Hitech's time. It's the same game we've always played. Good enough then, good enough now. Worth the $15 a month of the fun. No need to change it now! So either fly or quit, and stop yer whining! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!
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Being a dick in one thread wasn’t enough of a spotlight?
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Being a dick in one thread wasn’t enough of a spotlight?
That's the kind of whining I'm talkin about! You platinum keyboard jocks spend more time here than actually flying!
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People keep asking me who I am or think I am a newbie because I have new BBS account. But I have flown AH for years - mainly knights. All that time never bothered to post or look at BBS. But now that numbers are dropping, I wanted to see what was going on. And I see a lot of whining about leaving, wanting Hitech to change the game, political correctness on CH200, blah blah blah. I say don't waist Hitech's time. It's the same game we've always played. Good enough then, good enough now. Worth the $15 a month of the fun. No need to change it now! So either fly or quit, and stop yer whining! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!
Well if #s are dropping, don't you think it's necessary to change something to make gameplay more exciting and intense, numbnuts?
Gah it's llike logic goes right out the window here for some reason.
It's obvious you haven't been on these boards long.
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Well if #s are dropping, don't you think it's necessary to change something to make gameplay more exciting and intense, numbnuts?
Gah it's llike logic goes right out the window here for some reason.
It's obvious you haven't been on these boards long.
Yeah it sounds like you have all the answers and if hitech does what you want the numbers will be back up to 1k! Let me get a notepad! :azn:
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Yeah it sounds like you have all the answers and if hitech does what you want the numbers will be back up to 1k! Let me get a notepad! :azn:
If hitech did what I am asking, the fights would improve tremendously in the MA, thus keeping players engaged longer in the fight, thus making bigger fights, thus creating enthusiasm and bringing more players back into the ggame to participate in the bigger fights. When players log in and see a huge board with a couple flashing bases and 0 dars, or 1 tiny dar on the map, they find it boring and leave. Thats coming straight from some whose played at a high level for over 17 years now. I know it's true because that's exactly what I do. Big fights on a map, I stick around longer. No fights on a map, I leave for something more entertaining. It's simple.
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If hitech did what I am asking, the fights would improve tremendously in the MA, thus keeping players engaged longer in the fight, thus making bigger fights, thus creating enthusiasm and bringing more players back into the ggame to participate in the bigger fights. When players log in and see a huge board with a couple flashing bases and 0 dars, or 1 tiny dar on the map, they find it boring and leave. Thats coming straight from some whose played at a high level for over 17 years now. I know it's true because that's exactly what I do. Big fights on a map, I stick around longer. No fights on a map, I leave for something more entertaining. It's simple.
Why not start a fight
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Why not start a fight
That's very challenging to do on a big map or map with far bases. If the fronts are too big, I can fly to a base, maybe shoot some AA guns, jabo, or hit the town, by then my plane will be toast from ack hits, if another plane rolls to fight me, I might either kill him and he never rolls again once he knows it's me, or I die easily from already being damaged. If I decide to fly back, it takes about 7 -10 minutes if I want to get alt with ord. That player may or may not roll again. I'd be lucky if he stayed up and rolled to my field to re fight me again, though he will probably land and may or may not roll again when I get back to his field. This is why shorter distances are more beneficial for smaller #s. As well as less bases on the fronts. No one cares about one guy attacking a field on a big map. Shorter base distance makes it so there is less time to get back to the field and keep the fight entertaining. It creates less hoards. With a huge map, it's hard to consolidate players to "fight your fight". Players don't condense to take the field they have to on a smaller front. When you look at maps that have furball islands or TTs, those bases are closer together. This means it takes less time to get back to the action. This keeps the fight entertaining. I actually don't like furball islands because it takes fighters away from the point of the map. The maps should encourage fights like furball island, without having a furball island. Many of these newer maps are better at achieving that. You dont see a bombers island where only bombers are allowed do you?
You all know I love this game and love flying with and against you. I am just compelled to speak my mind about what I see using my ingame experience to hopefully make this a better game for more players.
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so having less bases on a smaller front will cause less hording. won't it create more?
reminds me of how some players wanted strats closer to the front as it will create more fights over them. only thing that happened is strats are eternally down.
the problem you have with your ideas violator is you only look at them from your own perspective and not others. this has been pointed out to you.
semp
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so having less bases on a smaller front will cause less hording. won't it create more?
reminds me of how some players wanted strats closer to the front as it will create more fights over them. only thing that happened is strats are eternally down.
the problem you have with your ideas violator is you only look at them from your own perspective and not others. this has been pointed out to you.
semp
That's a fallacy, my ideas are taking other points of view into consideration. Your statement is incorrect. There would be more players on each side participating in the battle because of smaller fronts. It make hoarding much harder because players wouldn't be scattered around the map. With father bases, it takes a lot more players on the team to tackle a base and take it because it takes longer to return to the base if you die. This means you need a hoard of players to tackle the base and keep it down. If you tackle the base and the defenders back base is too far, it takes longer for them to be able to defend the hoard. Therefore they would have to take a hoard of players to defend the base which is hard to coordinate. If you have shorter base distances. Players would be able to roll and get back to their base to defend on a quicker term, therefore being able to defend better against a lot of players on the other team.
Generally one team has to hoard eventually if they want to take a base it's just that shorter distances on smaller fronts makes it more challenging because teams are able to defend easier. This is what creates the best fights.
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OK, I finally understand. you don't know what hording is. that's why you say people scattered over a large area will hord while concentrating more people in a smaller area leads to less hording.
hording refers to the number of people not the objective. while some refer as 5v1 a hord, it isn't.
concentrating players on a small area is just a furball with a hord v hord.
semp
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OK, I finally understand. you don't know what hording is. that's why you say people scattered over a large area will hord while concentrating more people in a smaller area leads to less hording.
hording refers to the number of people not the objective. while some refer as 5v1 a hord, it isn't.
concentrating players on a small area is just a furball with a hord v hord.
semp
It's not just a furball... players will be bombing and playing in tanks too. One side defending one side attacking. Furballs imply that no one is defending or attacking a base.
What is your problem with big battles?
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It's not just a furball... players will be bombing and playing in tanks too. One side defending one side attacking. Furballs imply that no one is defending or attacking a base.
What is your problem with big battles?
no problem with large battles that's why I enjoy scenarios..
semp
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One would think HiTech would have implemented Violator's ideas if they had any merit.
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It's not just a furball... players will be bombing and playing in tanks too. One side defending one side attacking. Furballs imply that no one is defending or attacking a base.
the problem with the Furballs is many times they do become more important than the attack or the defense. And that is when this veteran player logs off and goes to WW2OL or IL-2.
CAVALRY
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How about having an instant action where you get air start dropped right in the middle of the largest concentration of enemy aircraft in a randomly selected high eny plane.
Maybe it would get some of the hanger queens flying again...
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One would think HiTech would have implemented Violator's ideas if they had any merit.
If I was him after reading this bbs I'd shut the whole thing down.
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Being a dick in one thread wasn’t enough of a spotlight?
Nailed it. Whoever this guy is, he is taking his lack of success in life out by being a grade a Dbag on a small games forum. I miss scuzzy.
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Who was scuzzy?
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Nailed it. Whoever this guy is, he is taking his lack of success in life out by being a grade a Dbag on a small games forum. I miss scuzzy.
You ladies are awfully delicate!
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You ladies are awfully delicate!
If you want toxicity go somewhere else.
T. Used to be a toxic person myself. AH guys humbled me. Sincerely, what is the point of your threads? Go concern troll somewhere else.
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If I was him after reading this bbs I'd shut the whole thing down.
Yes, the man definitely has a great deal of patience. But some of the comments you see here are the reason we don't see Hitech comment more often.
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One would think HiTech would have implemented Violator's ideas if they had any merit.
More than 90% of the suggestions presented would change Aces High into a completely different game. I come here to play Aces High, not some other game.
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Yes, the man definitely has a great deal of patience. But some of the comments you see here are the reason we don't see Hitech comment more often.
Amen!
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More than 90% of the suggestions presented would change Aces High into a completely different game. I come here to play Aces High, not some other game.
Double Amen!
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OK...which one of you degenerates stole my fanny pack?
One-eye
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One would think HiTech would have implemented Violator's ideas if they had any merit.
Wait, so who is Hitech listening to that has "Merit" because we've had under 80K kills in the last 2 months due to terrible weekend gameplay based on maps that have 40 players on for most of the day with 0 action and tiny dars for most of the day... This is the type of game play you all love?
No wonder only players who play by themselves are left and so many squads have disappeared for lack of people to shoot while their eny increases. I can't play this game anymore during off hours because it's such a snooze fest thanks to whose ever merit hitech is following.
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Being a dick in one thread wasn’t enough of a spotlight?
Agreed, has this shade given an in game name or is he only going to hide behind his shade?
Old time player reveal yourself, are you some disgruntled player coming bad to cause trouble, or a new one looking to make a name for themselves as a dick?
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Agreed, has this shade given an in game name or is he only going to hide behind his shade?
Old time player reveal yourself, are you some disgruntled player coming bad to cause trouble, or a new one looking to make a name for themselves as a dick?
I think the whining here is too much. Other than event announcements, it's always about what HiTech isn't doing the right thing or not deleting maps they don't like, or "I'm gonna quit and here's why!" He adds a feature to balance ENY and everyone either squeakes or finds something new to complain about. I got sick of it. So I come online and say stop whining. And the whiners are mad. :aok
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I think the whining here is too much. Other than event announcements, it's always about what HiTech isn't doing the right thing or not deleting maps they don't like, or "I'm gonna quit and here's why!" He adds a feature to balance ENY and everyone either squeakes or finds something new to complain about. I got sick of it. So I come online and say stop whining. And the whiners are mad. :aok
Discussion is a very important thing. Im sorry you cannot handle it. Maybe you shouldn't be here then and just go back to playing the game. To be frank, you havent gained enough of a reputation to tell me and other people they shouldn't say bye or have ideas and concerns. People develop real friendships in here and its tough to see them go. Unlike you, I actually have the skills with 17 years of experience in game to back up my claims to post the comments I do. People know how I play the game. Last May we had 40K more kills than this May with under 80k, and 47K more kills in April 2020 than 2021. You want to tell me that's fine? Thats a lot of kills. Saying that my comments have no merit is completely ignoramus. Don't be mad at me for calling out the completely obvious and logical common sense reasoning that certain maps are detrimental to keeping players logged into the game and getting kills for them to be interested enough to even learn it. This game thrives when people are getting kills. Not when people are flying aimlessly for 15 minutes trying to find something to shoot on this huge map in the middle of the afternoon. It pains me that the obvious is so hard to see for you guys. This game is left with the few who just want to play by themselves and avoid fights... lame. :frown: not sure why Hitech would think that is the better approach to gaining more players?
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I think the whining here is too much. Other than event announcements, it's always about what HiTech isn't doing the right thing or not deleting maps they don't like, or "I'm gonna quit and here's why!" He adds a feature to balance ENY and everyone either squeakes or finds something new to complain about. I got sick of it. So I come online and say stop whining. And the whiners are mad. :aok
All that typing and he still hasn't said who he is behind the shade. What are you hiding from?
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All that typing and he still hasn't said who he is behind the shade. What are you hiding from?
Probably a PNG> :devil
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Do you guys even fly???
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These guys are some the best sticks in the game!!! As for me? I haven’t in a while too busy WIth the tank wars and setting up fun fights for all.
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Do you guys even fly???
yes we are beautiful butterflies.
semp
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Do you guys even fly???
Yup , my name is Fugitive. No shade here.
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Yup , my name is Fugitive. No shade here.
And we're supposed to trust someone with a name like fugitive? :noid
:rofl :salute fugi, good to see you still around.
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These guys are some the best sticks in the game!!!
The best sticks in this game are long gone.
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The best sticks in this game are long gone.
Agreed.
But there are some pretty good ones still here.
- oldman
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The best sticks in this game are long gone.
wait till the chips are back to normal, we'll have better sticks.
semp
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And we're supposed to trust someone with a name like fugitive? :noid
:rofl :salute fugi, good to see you still around.
Hey Estes! Miss ya bud!
The best sticks in this game are long gone.
Well I guess that means your not "one of the best sticks" in the game.
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Well I guess that means your not "one of the best sticks" in the game.
why sure I am! that's why they call me The P38 Ace!
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Speaking of best sticks in the game...
Anybody else notice that they used to be much better 30 years ago? lol. It's like I know what I should be doing but not doing it or my timing is off.
Maybe it's because I used to play every day back then and can't now because of RL? Not sure but curios if there's others that have had the same experience.
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Speaking of best sticks in the game...
Anybody else notice that they used to be much better 30 years ago? lol. It's like I know what I should be doing but not doing it or my timing is off.
Maybe it's because I used to play every day back then and can't now because of RL? Not sure but curios if there's others that have had the same experience.
Thirty years ago it was a different game. Some of the guys who were very good in AW FR couldn't effectively make the transition to AH, and many of them left (thinking HR here).
For AH, it's been years since I've encountered anyone who could compare to Leviathan or Shane. I'm sure there were others who were close to those two, back in the day.
That said, there are still a lot of very good pilots here.
- oldman
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why sure I am! that's why they call me The P38 Ace!
Okay.....I will bite the stinky baited hook and challenge you to a 1 vs 1 , best out of 5 wins and loser of each round calls plane for next round
TC
(Shane aka Oopsy from AW was a good student that kept coming back for more FR training and became a good friend...miss him)
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Okay.....I will bite the stinky baited hook and challenge you to a 1 vs 1 , best out of 5 wins and loser of each round calls plane for next round
TC
(Shane aka Oopsy from AW was a good student that kept coming back for more FR training and became a good friend...miss him)
How about start off with B5N? that should make for an interesting fight!
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How about start off with B5N? that should make for an interesting fight!
I'll let him pick the first plane
Also, if I lose to you (referring to AH message boards username P38Ace), I will vow not to ever tell anyone your AH gameid! But if you lose to me, you have to step up and post on this forum your gameid....
TC
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Speaking of best sticks in the game...
Anybody else notice that they used to be much better 30 years ago? lol. It's like I know what I should be doing but not doing it or my timing is off.
Maybe it's because I used to play every day back then and can't now because of RL? Not sure but curios if there's others that have had the same experience.
When paying by the hour, k/d was deadly serious! Pilots rose to the challenge of pushing the envelope of everything they flew. But that was then. You can find those guys on IL2, I think.
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Speaking of best sticks in the game...
Anybody else notice that they used to be much better 30 years ago? lol. It's like I know what I should be doing but not doing it or my timing is off.
Maybe it's because I used to play every day back then and can't now because of RL? Not sure but curios if there's others that have had the same experience.
There are very few these days. I could maybe name a half dozen guys that are good stick and this "38" shade wouldnt come close to being on any list that I could come up with for a good stick. Now a days all you really see are the pick and run type of players. Some rack up some kills, but get them with out all that E and they die very easily.
Was defending a base and 55Bear came in to pick. Once it was just him and me ( my NIK with an oil leak vs his KI) he just ran. I turned back to the field and engaged a B25 that came in and after a couple turns guess whos back? Yup picker extraordinaire 55Bear.
No there are very few good sticks left in this game.
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I can relate to this as I have tried flying a slower plane and find myself chasing fast movers around so I end up getting a D9 and using it to run down ponies because, as you said, once you catch them they don't have much fight left in them.
I've also found that if the numbers are tilted that I can take a D9 into a 1 vs many and if I don't get greedy I might be able to knock off a couple and make an escape. It makes me wonder why the D9 is not more popular. It has great turn rate around 300 and can stay with some better turners for a bit when slower using yo-yos.
What I was asking is if anybody feels that they're not as good as they used to be 20 or 30 year ago and if so why? I it that we don't play as much as we used to? Is it we're getting slower in our older ages? I am curious about that.
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There are very few these days. I could maybe name a half dozen guys that are good stick and this "38" shade wouldnt come close to being on any list that I could come up with for a good stick. Now a days all you really see are the pick and run type of players. Some rack up some kills, but get them with out all that E and they die very easily.
Was defending a base and 55Bear came in to pick. Once it was just him and me ( my NIK with an oil leak vs his KI) he just ran. I turned back to the field and engaged a B25 that came in and after a couple turns guess whos back? Yup picker extraordinaire 55Bear.
No there are very few good sticks left in this game.
55Bear is cool. You gonna whine about checkertails next?
You do realize, Erich Hartmann, 352 kills, was a BnZer right? He pick and chose his battles and thought people that dog fought weere crazy. Read "Blond Knight of Germany" sure - it is a bit over the top, it was written post WW2 when tensions were very high between the West and USSR/East.
Insane really. I have nothing against runners. That is why I fly the duce now. No one can run from me now :devil
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You do realize, Erich Hartmann, 352 kills, was a BnZer right? He pick and chose his battles and thought people that dog fought weere crazy. Read "Blond Knight of Germany" sure - it is a bit over the top, it was written post WW2 when tensions were very high between the West and USSR/East.
Erich Hartmann was a picker? Who knew! :bolt:
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Erich Hartmann was a picker? Who knew! :bolt:
Im a picker myself >:)
Puma taught me and showed me some BFM stuff though. I'm very grateful for that.
I'm more of a B*mbtard at heart tho lol. Love flying me b17s, b24s, etc
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I can relate to this as I have tried flying a slower plane and find myself chasing fast movers around so I end up getting a D9 and using it to run down ponies because, as you said, once you catch them they don't have much fight left in them.
I've also found that if the numbers are tilted that I can take a D9 into a 1 vs many and if I don't get greedy I might be able to knock off a couple and make an escape. It makes me wonder why the D9 is not more popular. It has great turn rate around 300 and can stay with some better turners for a bit when slower using yo-yos.
What I was asking is if anybody feels that they're not as good as they used to be 20 or 30 year ago and if so why? I it that we don't play as much as we used to? Is it we're getting slower in our older ages? I am curious about that.
Have you looked at the stats? The 190D is one of the most popular killers in the MA, along with one of the top K/Ds for non perked planes. It's one of the worst pick and run boring gameplay planes in the game. For your second question. I don't feel as good as I was in 2007-08. Definitely don't play as much nor duel as much to work on ACM because no one really likes to duel anymore for some reason. I think reading the opponents E state on the merge is more challenging in AH3 aswell.
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I miss fighting Shane, fighting his La5 in my 109F was a highlight. :rock
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Where can you look up MA kills by plane type?
That is how perks should be assigned and modified monthly by
The top killers should be so expensive only the most experience would have the perks to spend but would be too embarrassed to be seen in their perked birds..sadly that is not the case now
Or do a socialism move and tie score into it so the less skilled players perk rides costs are less expensive to them than the higher scorers
Silly the cost of a 262 is the same to me as someone who started yesterday
Eagler
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55Bear is cool. You gonna whine about checkertails next?
You do realize, Erich Hartmann, 352 kills, was a BnZer right? He pick and chose his battles and thought people that dog fought weere crazy. Read "Blond Knight of Germany" sure - it is a bit over the top, it was written post WW2 when tensions were very high between the West and USSR/East.
Insane really. I have nothing against runners. That is why I fly the duce now. No one can run from me now :devil
OH, you mean the "chickentails"? Sure they are just as bad. This game is about combat, not running and picking. Id be willing to bet that runners and pickers are in the top 3 reasons players quit this game. Oh and please dont try to use any real life people/scenarios to compare this game with. Real life and a GAME are far different. How long do you thionk COD would have lasted if players played it like real life?
In the case of my fight :rofl with 55bear it was just him and me KI vs a my NIK leaking oil so obviously hurt and he choose to run away and come back after Id limped home and engaged a B25trying to take down the town to pick me. Great combat :rolleyes:
I miss fighting Shane, fighting his La5 in my 109F was a highlight. :rock
Those were the days! Players fought! Whether it was in GVs, fighters, or bombers they fought their way through. Last night the Chickentails were flying with a bunch of other Rooks picking over a bish base, about 3 or 4 -1 in their favor. About 30 minutes later 15 Sick Puppys got together along with a few stragglers to run a mission to the base the the Rooks were working out of. 5 minutes later "POOF!" no more Rooks along the whole Bish front. Why? because they didnt want to fight, they just want easy picking kills.
It certainly one of the reason players leave, no more fights, just pickers. Now with everyone getting the green light to head outside with everything reopening and summer in full swing the numbers have dropped even more. We cant even get over 100 players on a saturday night any more. Crappy game play certainly isnt going to help keep this game going.
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Have you looked at the stats? The 190D is one of the most popular killers in the MA, along with one of the top K/Ds for non perked planes. It's one of the worst pick and run boring gameplay planes in the game. For your second question. I don't feel as good as I was in 2007-08. Definitely don't play as much nor duel as much to work on ACM because no one really likes to duel anymore for some reason. I think reading the opponents E state on the merge is more challenging in AH3 aswell.
I had not looked at the stats. I was basing it on I usually see at least 5 51D to ever D9 I see.
I don't think it's boring as one of the main reasons I will switch to it from something slower is to run down ponies. If I'm in a D9 and I see a bunch of spits or other turny planes and a pony, I'll go after the pony cause it's usually an easy kill because it seems a great number of pony drivers depend on speed and when it runs out so does their luck. Vs turny planes I agree that it can be boring as I can go a few turns with them but I'm not good enough to fight an extended fight D9 vs spit for example without ending up dead.
I agree with the e state thing. I have used it in the D9 often. I will dive to a very high rate of speed and zoom up from under an enemy unexpectedly. That thing really will zoom when it's fast.
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OH, you mean the "chickentails"? Sure they are just as bad. This game is about combat, not running and picking. Id be willing to bet that runners and pickers are in the top 3 reasons players quit this game.
Or a reason that people change their tactics to deal. (as in you flying the 262)
I like to fly turny planes but the problem I have there are people who like to stay high over a fight and watch for a couple turny planes to start dancing and then make a 550mph+ pass, followed by a 5k extension... rinse repeat.
After this happening to me a few times it annoys me to the point that I will go get a fast plane and go hunting those guy. THAT to me is the boring part. Climbing to 20k to get co-alt with them and as soon as you start dancing with one pony his buddy comes in at 25k and you end up with the same result as I had while in the turny planes. Good thing about it is that in my experience most of they pony pickers are not that skilled so you can usually evade them if you have something with a decent amount of speed. I don't have much luck doing that in a turning fight in a slower plane as I'm usually focused on the slow planes and don't usually see the pony coming in from 10k above me at 550+ until it's too late.
I wonder if score/stats has anything to do with that sort of play style? I guess I don't understand how climbing to 25k every flight and disengaging if you get below 15k is fun but obviously it is to some people. lol
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Or a reason that people change their tactics to deal. (as in you flying the 262)
I like to fly turny planes but the problem I have there are people who like to stay high over a fight and watch for a couple turny planes to start dancing and then make a 550mph+ pass, followed by a 5k extension... rinse repeat.
After this happening to me a few times it annoys me to the point that I will go get a fast plane and go hunting those guy. THAT to me is the boring part. Climbing to 20k to get co-alt with them and as soon as you start dancing with one pony his buddy comes in at 25k and you end up with the same result as I had while in the turny planes. Good thing about it is that in my experience most of they pony pickers are not that skilled so you can usually evade them if you have something with a decent amount of speed. I don't have much luck doing that in a turning fight in a slower plane as I'm usually focused on the slow planes and don't usually see the pony coming in from 10k above me at 550+ until it's too late.
I wonder if score/stats has anything to do with that sort of play style? I guess I don't understand how climbing to 25k every flight and disengaging if you get below 15k is fun but obviously it is to some people. lol
Jeez I havnt flown a 262 in a while. I usually crash the first 2 or 3 before I remember how they compress.
As for the rest of the post, its spot on. Im trying to learn the 109. It cant catch much, but its fun trying to turn in it, and like you said, you are so concentrated on the fight your in that those high speed passes of the pickers arent always easily dodgable. I think many players are trying to fight, even the new ones and it is very easy to get discouraged by so many pickers.
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Jeez I havnt flown a 262 in a while. I usually crash the first 2 or 3 before I remember how they compress.
As for the rest of the post, its spot on. Im trying to learn the 109. It cant catch much, but its fun trying to turn in it, and like you said, you are so concentrated on the fight your in that those high speed passes of the pickers arent always easily dodgable. I think many players are trying to fight, even the new ones and it is very easy to get discouraged by so many pickers.
Oops. Got you mixed up with a different post about flying the 262. My bad. I think the K4 is fast enough to catch some but I can't hit anything with the tator launcher so it's not helpful for me. It amazes me how some of these guys can hit 90 defection shots with tators.
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What I was asking is if anybody feels that they're not as good as they used to be 20 or 30 year ago and if so why? I it that we don't play as much as we used to? Is it we're getting slower in our older ages? I am curious about that.
I have said/ felt that same way years ago on this bbs and in-game....often saying that I was (am) about 50% of the abilities of what I was doing during my best years..
With that said, you lose it if you don't use it!
Memory loss, old, disabilities affect some......edit: and flying not as often, I think affects one's Situational Awareness (SA) the most....for me anyway...
TC
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Where can you look up MA kills by plane type?
Eagler
On the main page, click on scores and stats, then click plane. From there you click the month/tour you want to see. This is one way that I've been basing my accusations on poor map gameplay with respect to kills/month. Maps that dont generate good fights throughout the day have lower kill stats. This correlates to lower #s overall due to lack of action. You can also sort by K/D, most kills, and most deaths per plane. Its a great stat to view.
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On the main page, click on scores and stats, then click plane. From there you click the month/tour you want to see. This is one way that I've been basing my accusations on poor map gameplay with respect to kills/month. Maps that dont generate good fights throughout the day have lower kill stats. This correlates to lower #s overall due to lack of action. You can also sort by K/D, most kills, and most deaths per plane. Its a great stat to view.
accusations without proof. explain to how my few kills are related to maps.
semp
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On the main page, click on scores and stats, then click plane. From there you click the month/tour you want to see. This is one way that I've been basing my accusations on poor map gameplay with respect to kills/month. Maps that dont generate good fights throughout the day have lower kill stats. This correlates to lower #s overall due to lack of action. You can also sort by K/D, most kills, and most deaths per plane. Its a great stat to view.
K nerd.
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Thanks Violator
I have the g2 wrapped up this tour..need to spend more time in the f4 :)
Eagler
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accusations without proof. explain to how my few kills are related to maps.
semp
He can't.
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accusations without proof. explain to how my few kills are related to maps.
semp
He can't.
Oh I can and will. Im currently documenting the maps up on the weekends with relation to #s during certain times along with the fights on the map during that time.
It's clear as day light to me.
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Oh I can and will. Im currently documenting the maps up on the weekends with relation to #s during certain times along with the fights on the map during that time.
It's clear as day light to me.
I agree with you on this, I just don't care as much as you after all these years, if I get a couple good fights I'm happy.
Might suggest you compile numbers of players in flight before dusk and during. Pretty obvious watching darbars shrink because folks can't see toejam.
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it all means squat with Graphs damn you !!!
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Oh I can and will. Im currently documenting the maps up on the weekends with relation to #s during certain times along with the fights on the map during that time.
It's clear as day light to me.
wow, you gonna stay up for 3 days. count every single kill on the maps. document every thing. I will appreciate the effort.
semp
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wow, you gonna stay up for 3 days. count every single kill on the maps. document every thing. I will appreciate the effort.
semp
Programs track the kills, map time active is easy to figure out with simple math. What are you contributing other than arguing a false point with someone you don't know online?
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Programs track the kills, map time active is easy to figure out with simple math. What are you contributing other than arguing a false point with someone you don't know online?
excuse me if I'm wrong, but I didn't know that kills are separated by the hour. more he's only checking a weekend, so 3 days tops. that leaves 4 days without any data. won't that be limited?
only one that has all the data is hitech. there's one guy that can pull data and make all kind of graphs that while extensive are somewhere limited when it comes to comparing by maps. he's trusted because he has proven to be reliable and unbiased.
it isn't violator.
semp
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one more thing about false perception is me. I've flown mostly a Pony for years, before then it was the spitfire 8, 9 or the zeke. those are the planes i remember mostly. fugitive pulled my kills by plane. I still remember when he said it blew my mind that the plane you were best in is the il2 by far.
I didn't know that either.
semp
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Semp is right here.
Sorry not sorry.
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one more thing about false perception is me. I've flown mostly a Pony for years, before then it was the spitfire 8, 9 or the zeke. those are the planes i remember mostly. fugitive pulled my kills by plane. I still remember when he said it blew my mind that the plane you were best in is the il2 by far.
I didn't know that either.
semp
That's cool and all, but this is not a false perception. I am looking at weekends mostly because it's when most people have time to play. I will have some week days in there. I know you will contradict any data I post regardless but to people who actually care about increasing action it will shed some light and prove inefficiencies.
I agree with you on this, I just don't care as much as you after all these years, if I get a couple good fights I'm happy.
Might suggest you compile numbers of players in flight before dusk and during. Pretty obvious watching darbars shrink because folks can't see toejam.
I try, only because I want air combat more than anything. When I log in mid afternoon and see no fighter action, 45 players with 2 tiny green dars with no cons to shoot at because the map is ridiculous. I just dont know what else to do but to speak up.
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That's cool and all, but this is not a false perception. I am looking at weekends mostly because it's when most people have time to play. I will have some week days in there. I know you will contradict any data I post regardless but to people who actually care about increasing action it will shed some light and prove inefficiencies.
so what you are saying is people should log in on more on weekends and kills more. sorry I pay 15 bucks to play this game. if you want to pay me to play more on weekends, I am willing to listen.
semp
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one word of advise, right now there's 19 players. I started playing in 1996, once I was part of a mission over the island of hawaii, in aw. I had about 60 players with me. all together we had over 500 planes trying to take hawaii, we never did take it. we took some bases. after about 6 hours of flying and taking bases with 2 countries trying to get the other down to 1, we didnt made the target. at the end I think about 12 players were on, from about 1500 or 2000 a few hours before.
next day, bastages from the other country players also had a plan, we were down to 5 bases.
was fun, another country joined with us to take the other down. then next day the joined and took us down. lots of fun
but from a billion players flying that day, we ended up with 12 players playing late at night.
semp
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so what you are saying is people should log in on more on weekends and kills more. sorry I pay 15 bucks to play this game. if you want to pay me to play more on weekends, I am willing to listen.
semp
So what you are saying is that fish are blue?
How is 12 or 19 players on a good thing? It should be alteast 80 but moreso 100 during off hours.
Stop being ridiculous Semp.
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so what you are saying is people should log in on more on weekends and kills more. sorry I pay 15 bucks to play this game. if you want to pay me to play more on weekends, I am willing to listen.
semp
No he is looking more at Maps and hours of deemed play time...(kills shows some form of action that will get peoples attention...not non flashing single scattered dar bars) ...not so much players on....it just gives a better idea during times when there is closer to a normal take over rate.... There are maps that stagnate and are just too big...all that happens is bomber runs and tower sitters waiting for a base to flash...(I am one of these types) ... I like to get into it ...I can't be bothered chasing bombers.... and I can't be bothered flying for an age to find that there is somebody home...but they won't up... They just get in the 88...shoot it down you say.... sure.. but that doesn't put them in a plane..
I am one of those who has the pleasure of having a game time in the low number time period...at those times...if a map is won and the next one is 1) large...or 2) one of the unlike maps.... it is single digits for a few hours.... When the map changes and it a generally like map (there are always haters) many will flow back in... now flow is a little gratuitous but if I am on with more than 20...it is a fine night for me...that is, so long as there is a majority of in flight as opposed to tower sitters.... the latter happens alot ...perhaps this is why the numbers stay low after a map change... all the sitters are gone....
either way... there are definitely maps that impede enthusiasm....
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one word of advise, right now there's 19 players. I started playing in 1996, once I was part of a mission over the island of hawaii, in aw. I had about 60 players with me. all together we had over 500 planes trying to take hawaii, we never did take it. we took some bases. after about 6 hours of flying and taking bases with 2 countries trying to get the other down to 1, we didnt made the target. at the end I think about 12 players were on, from about 1500 or 2000 a few hours before.
next day, bastages from the other country players also had a plan, we were down to 5 bases.
was fun, another country joined with us to take the other down. then next day the joined and took us down. lots of fun
but from a billion players flying that day, we ended up with 12 players playing late at night.
semp
Not sure where you put the “advise” (think you meant advice), I don’t see any in that post.
You are talking about dial-up internet days where you had to pay by the hour/minutes used...so of course when that scenario/mission was done those players logged out.
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I don’t see any of your points, all I see is you contradicting DmonSlyr at every turn.
And I believe all of this originates simply from things he posted back last year when the bbs rules were suspended. This topic has absolutely zero to do with that.
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I don’t see any of your points, all I see is you contradicting DmonSlyr at every turn.
And I believe all of this originates simply from things he posted back last year when the bbs rules were suspended. This topic has absolutely zero to do with that.
Nah, he's always been like that. I dont mind a devils advocate. But they need to make since with rational arguments against mine for me to be engaging, and not make up things I said which aren't what I am implying like his previous post. I've been noticing that a lot lately on other debates. Unfortunately, there is counter for practically everything now, which is why we are where we are today.
No he is looking more at Maps and hours of deemed play time...(kills shows some form of action that will get peoples attention...not non flashing single scattered dar bars) ...not so much players on....it just gives a better idea during times when there is closer to a normal take over rate.... There are maps that stagnate and are just too big...all that happens is bomber runs and tower sitters waiting for a base to flash...(I am one of these types) ... I like to get into it ...I can't be bothered chasing bombers.... and I can't be bothered flying for an age to find that there is somebody home...but they won't up... They just get in the 88...shoot it down you say.... sure.. but that doesn't put them in a plane..
I am one of those who has the pleasure of having a game time in the low number time period...at those times...if a map is won and the next one is 1) large...or 2) one of the unlike maps.... it is single digits for a few hours.... When the map changes and it a generally like map (there are always haters) many will flow back in... now flow is a little gratuitous but if I am on with more than 20...it is a fine night for me...that is, so long as there is a majority of in flight as opposed to tower sitters.... the latter happens alot ...perhaps this is why the numbers stay low after a map change... all the sitters are gone....
either way... there are definitely maps that impede enthusiasm....
Thank you for your input Tongs. You hit the nail on the head with what I am trying to get across.
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Not sure where you put the “advise” (think you meant advice), I don’t see any in that post.
You are talking about dial-up internet days where you had to pay by the hour/minutes used...so of course when that scenario/mission was done those players logged out.
actually i used aol to connect which was unlimited. when aol decided to start charging by the minute to play AW, then we switched to gamestorm which was unlimited AW for 10 or 12 bucks a month. so it was around 20 or 25 bucks a month total. if I remember correctly.
it was late at night when everybody would log off then we would have about 10 to 20 players.
basically same as in AH, hundreds during the day, a dozen or 2 late at night.
semp
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. Unfortunately, there is counter for practically everything now, which is why we are where we are today.
You Think? LOL
Tongs, nice follow up.....
Edit: I will add that I am 100% positive HTC has more data than you are able to look at Vio, I'll leave it there....
<S>
TC
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So what you are saying is that fish are blue?
How is 12 or 19 players on a good thing? It should be alteast 80 but moreso 100 during off hours.
Stop being ridiculous Semp.
19 players is a good thing if they're having fun. and we had never had 80 or 100 consistently that I recall late at night.
but going back to your claim. how you gonna obtain the data by the hour/day? just asking because I just tried to check how many kills I got last night and couldnt find a way. do you have a program? will you check if the same map is up and how would you know what time it changes?
semp
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I recall a time in AW FR, when less than 9 were online, yet we all still had a blast
But you have to align the numbers, the map size and the decade..
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You Think? LOL
Tongs, nice follow up.....
Edit: I will add that I am 100% positive HTC has more data than you are able to look at Vio, I'll leave it there....
<S>
TC
He might have more data, but it doesn't appear he's using that data to his advantage with regards to measuring # fluctuations in the MA with regards to action on the map, and why there is a lack there of a for most of the day on certain maps relative to others. And I think it has a big impact on #s overall playing the game. Just sayin.
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He might have more data, but it doesn't appear he's using that data to his advantage with regards to measuring # fluctuations in the MA with regards to action on the map, and why there is a lack there of a for most of the day on certain maps relative to others. And I think it has a big impact on #s overall playing the game. Just sayin.
As soon as someone starts paying some other, then that other will go around the world beating others into submission to subscribe and play
What else do you want done? A complete reboot of the game so people play when you want
As far as games like this, we are going on the 5th decade... think about that for a few minutes
Everything moves up and down as time passes
I am not here posting to agree/ disagree/ or debate...
TC
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Sorry for my ramblings before...i did not proof read what I had typed and was rushing as the guys were turning up for work.... I guess you did get the gist of it... but it was a bit sloppy.
19 players is a good thing if they're having fun. and we had never had 80 or 100 consistently that I recall late at night.
but going back to your claim. how you gonna obtain the data by the hour/day? just asking because I just tried to check how many kills I got last night and couldn't find a way. do you have a program? will you check if the same map is up and how would you know what time it changes?
semp
Yeah we did ... it started to slow down around 2014/15 ... somewhere around there...and then the new version came out and those that couldn't or didn't want to get a newer PC had to leave.... On good nights with the low numbers it can be a huge amount of fun...but it is falling away....Especially when the numbers are skewed by AFK tower sitters...
Certain maps do affect this...this and.... let's not get into it please but it is relevant when you have a total of 20 on the roster and ENY is working... you for one semp would be annoyed that you couldn't fly your PonyD ...for me the only effect it has is I lose out on targets to shoot or get shot at by
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As soon as someone starts paying some other, then that other will go around the world beating others into submission to subscribe and play
What else do you want done? A complete reboot of the game so people play when you want
As far as games like this, we are going on the 5th decade... think about that for a few minutes
Everything moves up and down as time passes
I am not here posting to agree/ disagree/ or debate...
TC
I don't think he's looking for a revamp of the game. He'd like to see some of the larger and very slow moving maps be pulled for now. With the lower numbers it seems some of the maps never hit that point where the numbers generate action over a large scale.
Some of the smaller maps blast through and are only up for hours. Either it got a bunch of action, or everyones on one team milking the win.
The real big 512 maps were removed because they were too big for the numbers we had playing. I thinks its time to move a few more maps out of the rotation so as to not get caught with one of those big. slow maps that lasts for days.
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I don't think he's looking for a revamp of the game. He'd like to see some of the larger and very slow moving maps be pulled for now. With the lower numbers it seems some of the maps never hit that point where the numbers generate action over a large scale.
Some of the smaller maps blast through and are only up for hours. Either it got a bunch of action, or everyones on one team milking the win.
The real big 512 maps were removed because they were too big for the numbers we had playing. I thinks its time to move a few more maps out of the rotation so as to not get caught with one of those big. slow maps that lasts for days.
I'm going to point my previous post out to you, so I don't confuse anyone else
I recall a time in AW FR, when less than 9 were online, yet we all still had a blast
But you have to align the numbers, the map size and the decade..
Hope this helps
TC
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There was a new map made not long ago... North-co...or something like that.... I have managed to see this map 4 times... it is a great map for low numbers.... I am picking it would get rolled quickly when there are higher numbers...but maps like that with the small numbers is cool...but as noted...probably too small for general game time.
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and then the new version came out and those that couldn't or didn't want to get a newer PC had to leave
Which actually had been very few players. The system requirements for AH3 where quite low even for 2017. The decline of player numbers had been a very steady one up to AH3 and was notably slower, if not even halted, after Ah3 was published.
So while AH3 was a disappointment for all who had high hopes in getting AH back to former glory, it seems to have extended this games lifespan considerably.
By the way the decline started around 2009, in late 2015 the numbers had dropped so far that I stopped playing regularly because of the resulting gameplay issues in my timezone.
For some quick numbers: In 2001 the game had like 2000-2500 'scoring' pilots per tour, the first golden age of AH1 saw 5000+ in 2003/2004, I joined at 4000-4500 pilots per tour in late 2005.
AH peak was around 2007-2009 at 6000+ per tour. In late 2015 (when ended my regular subscription) it was down to 2000. Nowadays, its almost stable for two years at slightly over 1000 scoring pilots.
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I'm going to point my previous post out to you, so I don't confuse anyone else
Hope this helps
TC
AW was a different. A great night was 50 players. Most nights less. Also it was all about fighting there, unlike what we have here.
We are spoiled in that we know what it could be because it once was booming and even the big maps were rolled. Face it, we have much smaller numbers these days and the maps need to be adjusted. We know its a fix because Hitech has done it before. Thats all DmonSlyr is asking for, is look at the numbers as they relate to players login in/off compared to the maps.
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I guess you didn't notice what I put in bold and underlined when I pointed you towards my earlier post
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Which actually had been very few players. The system requirements for AH3 where quite low even for 2017. The decline of player numbers had been a very steady one up to AH3 and was notably slower, if not even halted, after Ah3 was published.
So while AH3 was a disappointment for all who had high hopes in getting AH back to former glory, it seems to have extended this games lifespan considerably.
By the way the decline started around 2009, in late 2015 the numbers had dropped so far that I stopped playing regularly because of the resulting gameplay issues in my timezone.
For some quick numbers: In 2001 the game had like 2000-2500 'scoring' pilots per tour, the first golden age of AH1 saw 5000+ in 2003/2004, I joined at 4000-4500 pilots per tour in late 2005.
AH peak was around 2007-2009 at 6000+ per tour. In late 2015 (when ended my regular subscription) it was down to 2000. Nowadays, its almost stable for two years at slightly over 1000 scoring pilots.
Thanks for the feedback/ follow up
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It's about time you turned up.... :D
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Fugitive, when I started playing AH, only 5 others were logged in, in 1999...
NB, Lonz, HiTech, Pyro and Nomde..
TC
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Both Kenai77 and another guy I'm forgetting made some awesome small maps. We've been asking for months for them to be put into the rotation. Even if for just a week or so.
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I recall a time in AW FR, when less than 9 were online, yet we all still had a blast
But you have to align the numbers, the map size and the decade..
Or less than four. If you can find people who want to fight, it doesn't take a massive crowd to have a good time.
- oldman
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I recall a time in AW FR, when less than 9 were online, yet we all still had a blast
But you have to align the numbers, the map size and the decade..
AW was a different. A great night was 50 players. Most nights less. Also it was all about fighting there, unlike what we have here.
We are spoiled in that we know what it could be because it once was booming and even the big maps were rolled. Face it, we have much smaller numbers these days and the maps need to be adjusted. We know its a fix because Hitech has done it before. Thats all DmonSlyr is asking for, is look at the numbers as they relate to players login in/off compared to the maps.
Yes, exactly this. Sure the fight is great fun with 20 players on a very tiny H2H map or one like in AvA now. 20 players in there and you have a super blast.
I'm not saying MA maps need to be that small. But 20 players on BowlMA at 12pm est is not good for the game. It means there are no fights for me and that means I have to go play another game. I bet this is true for so many others. These smaller newer maps with closer bases create better fights at 12PM est which brings more #s into the fight and thus the game because the fight is saturated due to smaller fronts. This is what people want and I'll prove that.
I understand that smaller maps get rolled more quickly, however, they still provide better saturated fights which attract more players, so going from small short distance base maps to small short distance base maps continues the ability for players to find fights outside of prime time. Also, it prevents certain maps from taking over the entire weekend while providing poor fights for most of the day like bowlMA and buzzsaw.
And just to say, in the last few months of playing on the weekends. I have yet to play on many of the maps because it's either bowlMA or some other old school map that doesn't get won as easily.
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I still wouldnt mind seeing a simple AH1 arena for those that have lesser then optimum machines. Might bring some numbers back
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Fugitive, when I started playing AH, only 5 others were logged in, in 1999...
NB, Lonz, HiTech, Pyro and Nomde..
TC
Again, a different time, different circumstances. The only thing that was the same between then and now is, it was AH.
The game we play now is so much more and in the early 2000s going by Lusches numbers, was even more than we have today.
How big was the map back then? I'll bet it was like "sfma", "beta" map was use to have. Small maps that condensed the action, unlike the large maps that we have now that spread the action out, of allow players to spread out too much and avoid running into enemy.
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Again, a different time, different circumstances. The only thing that was the same between then and now is, it was AH.
The game we play now is so much more and in the early 2000s going by Lusches numbers, was even more than we have today.
How big was the map back then? I'll bet it was like "sfma", "beta" map was use to have. Small maps that condensed the action, unlike the large maps that we have now that spread the action out, of allow players to spread out too much and avoid running into enemy.
Whew.......lol
You are not interpreting or understanding what I posted
Guess I'll start drinking for the rest of the night
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Someone please explain to me why is it that when Iog into the game and decide to fly, regardless of time/timezone, I am able to have fun? regardless of how many people are playing
I want one of you to please explain how is that
:cheers
TC
BTW.......nice one Shuf
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<SNIP> Nowadays, its almost stable for two years at slightly over 1000 scoring pilots.
I was wondering about that number. Your posts also leave me with a strange desire to eat pie.
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Someone please explain to me why is it that when Iog into the game and decide to fly, regardless of time/timezone, I am able to have fun? regardless of how many people are playing
I want one of you to please explain how is that
:cheers
TC
BTW.......nice one Shuf
you don't play at 12pm, nobody has fun at 12pm.
haven't been able to find a stick yet. flying is let's say challenging, but it makes me laugh. actually having more fun. I have to fly at full throttle, if I don't, I lose all control of the plane. interesting trying to land. dog fight forget it. trigger, rudder, and flaps are all controlled by my left thumb, I need thumb and index for rudder.
semp
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Lazer can give you tips on using a mouse
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Got to get past that post count number....hehe
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Lazer is a beast. Mad respect to him.
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Lazer can give you tips on using a mouse
naw, having some hilarious times with my broken stick.
semp
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Maybe the smaller maps need deadlier ack to slow the base rolling on them
Set it to MNM levels and see how it changes
Eagler
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Someone please explain to me why is it that when Iog into the game and decide to fly, regardless of time/timezone, I am able to have fun? regardless of how many people are playing
I want one of you to please explain how is that
:cheers
TC
BTW.......nice one Shuf
This is easy; people are different, your fun isn't their fun and their fun isn't your fun.
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Dolby you're a funny guy :rofl
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Dolby you're a funny guy :rofl
He may be a funny guy, but what he says still has merit.
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You guys realize Hitech is never going to improve the game. Even if he wanted to, he can't compete with Warthunder, DCS, and IL2. He's just parked the server in his closet and will collect $15/month from all of you until it's not worth it, and he'll pull the plug. I hope he leaves the bbs up so you all can frantically post to try and figure out what happened - that will be fun to see!
But all the energy you spend making suggestions, or hoping for improvements - it's all wasted. HiTech can't be bothered to reset scoring every month. When Eagler posted that the web site is outdated and confusing to new player, Hitech was offended at his attitude. All he got from that post was that Eagler did not ask nicely. And the site will stay as is, just like the AH steam page, which is as dead a doornail. Even Subby can't be bothered anymore to monitor this dying bbs!
The party as long since ended and you guys are the guests that can't take the hint. The worst part is, you'll all still paying $15 a month to talk to each other about the good old days!
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Nope I pay $15 a month as it is the best $$$ to enjoyment ratio I can get these days..
Broken down to the hour its about 50 cent an hour if I get minimal time in
I have been paying since it was $29.95 back in the early days even while I didn't play for quite a bit
AH still beats dcs, il2 and wt for a2a ww2 action, flight model, spotting and overall enjoyment IMO
Eagler
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Nope I pay $15 a month as it is the best $$$ to enjoyment ratio I can get these days..
Eagler
You’re right - it’s your money to spend as you see fit.
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You guys realize Hitech is never going to improve the game. Even if he wanted to, he can't compete with Warthunder, DCS, and IL2. He's just parked the server in his closet and will collect $15/month from all of you until it's not worth it, and he'll pull the plug. I hope he leaves the bbs up so you all can frantically post to try and figure out what happened - that will be fun to see!
But all the energy you spend making suggestions, or hoping for improvements - it's all wasted. HiTech can't be bothered to reset scoring every month. When Eagler posted that the web site is outdated and confusing to new player, Hitech was offended at his attitude. All he got from that post was that Eagler did not ask nicely. And the site will stay as is, just like the AH steam page, which is as dead a doornail. Even Subby can't be bothered anymore to monitor this dying bbs!
The party as long since ended and you guys are the guests that can't take the hint. The worst part is, you'll all still paying $15 a month to talk to each other about the good old days!
This venom prompted me to go back to the original post - by the same author:
People keep asking me who I am or think I am a newbie because I have new BBS account. But I have flown AH for years - mainly knights. All that time never bothered to post or look at BBS. But now that numbers are dropping, I wanted to see what was going on. And I see a lot of whining about leaving, wanting Hitech to change the game, political correctness on CH200, blah blah blah. I say don't waist Hitech's time. It's the same game we've always played. Good enough then, good enough now. Worth the $15 a month of the fun. No need to change it now! So either fly or quit, and stop yer whining! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!
A remarkable contrast.
- oldman
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This venom prompted me to go back to the original post - by the same author:
People keep asking me who I am or think I am a newbie because I have new BBS account. But I have flown AH for years - mainly knights. All that time never bothered to post or look at BBS. But now that numbers are dropping, I wanted to see what was going on. And I see a lot of whining about leaving, wanting Hitech to change the game, political correctness on CH200, blah blah blah. I say don't waist Hitech's time. It's the same game we've always played. Good enough then, good enough now. Worth the $15 a month of the fun. No need to change it now! So either fly or quit, and stop yer whining! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!
A remarkable contrast.
- oldman
OMan you hit the nail on the head. Many of us here in the beginning of this wonderful virtual combat sim paid 30 dollars a month to play. You may ask why? Answer... because it was and still is the best MMOG WWII on the market. We have been given the tools to do many things! In the beginning,we had nowhere near the selection of tools to play this game. Many.........many aircraft have been added, many GVs have been added to the game. We dint have CVs when we started etc. etc. etc. Many people complain about the lack of numbers and the fights in the MA. You owe yourself a favor by trying FSO, Scenarios and other events that have an original historical theme. There is nothing like it. I compete very little time in the MA but I am in every Scenario or Event I can attend.
What in essence I am saying I guess is that there are so many ways to enjoy the game. If you don't like the MA I suggest you try the events. You're missing a lot of what the game actually brings to each and every one of us if you look and explore.
Hajo
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This venom prompted me to go back to the original post - by the same author:
People keep asking me who I am or think I am a newbie because I have new BBS account. But I have flown AH for years - mainly knights. All that time never bothered to post or look at BBS. But now that numbers are dropping, I wanted to see what was going on. And I see a lot of whining about leaving, wanting Hitech to change the game, political correctness on CH200, blah blah blah. I say don't waist Hitech's time. It's the same game we've always played. Good enough then, good enough now. Worth the $15 a month of the fun. No need to change it now! So either fly or quit, and stop yer whining! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!
A remarkable contrast.
- oldman
Trolls are allowed to say anything to keep the "agender" rolling.
Stop feeding the troll! He wont ID himself so we know its some disgruntled former player come back to just cause trouble.
Add him to the ignore list and move on.
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This venom prompted me to go back to the original post - by the same author:
People keep asking me who I am or think I am a newbie because I have new BBS account. But I have flown AH for years - mainly knights. All that time never bothered to post or look at BBS. But now that numbers are dropping, I wanted to see what was going on. And I see a lot of whining about leaving, wanting Hitech to change the game, political correctness on CH200, blah blah blah. I say don't waist Hitech's time. It's the same game we've always played. Good enough then, good enough now. Worth the $15 a month of the fun. No need to change it now! So either fly or quit, and stop yer whining! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!
A remarkable contrast.
- oldman
Yes, one post is dross and the other is truth! Guess which is which!
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Yes, one post is dross and the other is truth! Guess which is which!
I think I'll take Fugitive's wise advice.
- oldman
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Yes, one post is dross and the other is truth! Guess which is which!
You obviously aren't an Ace, muchless a P38ace. And you certainly don't understand the art of air combat, which is why don't understand AH and why you don't understand why we play it.
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You obviously aren't an Ace, muchless a P38ace. And you certainly don't understand the art of air combat, which is why don't understand AH and why you don't understand why we play it.
This. Well said.
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Wonder if its the certain "ace" that tried to play with his toy touch controllers and get his ego and butt spanked then cried about how everything is unfair
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Time to PNG this dufus.
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Time to PNG this dufus.
:aok
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It's been awhile since we had a sociopath, let it ride.
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:aok
Not wise to try get around a suspension.
Good By.
HiTech
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Not wise to try get around a suspension.
Good By.
HiTech
Thank you HiTech! Good move. 👍
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Thank you HiTech! Good move. 👍
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