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Title: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: Devil 505 on May 08, 2021, 02:52:16 PM
Is there an explanation as to why they they flew on the Allies last night and not the Axis as they were assigned?

Considering the numbers imbalance also seen last night, I guess it's good that they were under commitment...
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: RufusLeaking on May 08, 2021, 03:34:50 PM
Unforgiven are not listed on the Allied orders.

It was 70 vs 49. With the two Unforgiven and one no squad guy, it would have been 67 vs 52.

That is still substantial. Is it just spring fever?
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: Devil 505 on May 08, 2021, 03:38:02 PM
Unforgiven are not listed on the Allied orders.

It was 70 vs 49. With the two Unforgiven and one no squad guy, it would have been 67 vs 52.

That is still substantial. Is it just spring fever?

It's more about the behavior of that squad than the numbers balance. No matter how low the bar is set, they seem to slide their way beneath it.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: TequilaChaser on May 08, 2021, 06:07:50 PM
I would rather see the FSO CM Staff taking care of this issue or problem or what ever it is than to see a thread like this on the FSO event message board forum calling out and/ or attacking any Aces High squad in public...for something that might have not been done "by the assignments / orders"

It doesn't look good for anyone, whether it be the FSO event itself, the squad that may have messed up or anyone doing the calling out...

<S>

TC
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: Devil 505 on May 08, 2021, 06:52:00 PM
I would rather see the FSO CM Staff taking care of this issue or problem or what ever it is than to see a thread like this on the FSO event message board forum calling out and/ or attacking any Aces High squad in public...for something that might have not been done "by the assignments / orders"

It doesn't look good for anyone, whether it be the FSO event itself, the squad that may have messed up or anyone doing the calling out...

<S>

TC

I would have rather seen this problem taken care of the first time this squad had players just show up and fly on the wrong side in whatever plane they wanted, but since these guys are chronic error repeaters... here we are.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: DH367th on May 09, 2021, 02:38:32 AM
I left the unforgiven before the start but as CM running the event I could not leave the arena it showed me as still unforgiven. As for the squad it self I do not know why they were a no show it lead to me and fishngy going to AK.s
Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: RTGorkle on May 09, 2021, 04:49:11 AM
I don’t think we can forgive them.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: Dantoo on May 09, 2021, 07:16:48 AM
LOL I have forgiven them.  C'mon that "moment" when somebody said "hey there's 40 of them and 6 of us ...and we're outa gas!"  You can't buy those moments.

Was fun.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: RTGorkle on May 09, 2021, 09:13:44 AM
Is always fun, mate. I don’t pay attention to balance and scores. It’s all just a framework, kindly provided by the FSO staff, in which to have some structured fun and either contribute to the mission or failing that, maybe learn something the hard way.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: LCADolby on May 09, 2021, 09:45:56 AM
Squad legacy  :banana:
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: Peanut1 on August 22, 2021, 03:23:35 AM
I would have rather seen this problem taken care of the first time this squad had players just show up and fly on the wrong side in whatever plane they wanted, but since these guys are chronic error repeaters... here we are.
I think you need to step back a few. The unforgiven is one of the oldest squads in this game and at one point was undoubtedly one of the best supporters of FSO. The leaders of the squad have passed away and the new leadership that took over was horsechit. They are no longer a squad but my grandfather CASHEW would be offended to see trashtalk about his buddies and his squad that gave him his only joy for the last 15 years of his life.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: LCADolby on August 22, 2021, 06:14:01 AM
Peanut, I hope you realise people have the right to point out something even if it may offend, just as much as people have the right take offence.

To be completely dispassionate; I don't think your assumed position Cashew is the best way to go about scolding people in this thread, you should be at the ankles of those who took the squads legacy and smashed it into pieces within a very short space of time.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: Devil 505 on August 22, 2021, 09:25:06 AM
I think you need to step back a few. The unforgiven is one of the oldest squads in this game and at one point was undoubtedly one of the best supporters of FSO. The leaders of the squad have passed away and the new leadership that took over was horsechit. They are no longer a squad but my grandfather CASHEW would be offended to see trashtalk about his buddies and his squad that gave him his only joy for the last 15 years of his life.

Yeah, they used to be one of the best. But for the last few years The Unforgiven was consistently dropping the ball.

How many times did we see FSO orders arrive days late or even needing another squad to do them when it was The Unforgiven's turn as CiC? This happened on multiple occasions.

How many times did their CO fail to show up without telling his squad what their plane/assignment was? This happened so often that it pretty much became the norm.

It became clear to all the other squads that The Unforgiven was no longer likely to be an asset, but more likely to be a burden. Orders needed to be constructed not by how The Unforgiven could help the most, but by how they can hinder us the least.

The Unforgiven used to inspire excellence, but in recent years they only characterized not giving a crap.

This is not trash talk, it's just the hard truth.


Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: RichardDarkwood on August 22, 2021, 11:43:05 AM
Yeah, they used to be one of the best. But for the last few years The Unforgiven was consistently dropping the ball.

How many times did we see FSO orders arrive days late or even needing another squad to do them when it was The Unforgiven's turn as CiC? This happened on multiple occasions.

How many times did their CO fail to show up without telling his squad what their plane/assignment was? This happened so often that it pretty much became the norm.

It became clear to all the other squads that The Unforgiven was no longer likely to be an asset, but more likely to be a burden. Orders needed to be constructed not by how The Unforgiven could help the most, but by how they can hinder us the least.

The Unforgiven used to inspire excellence, but in recent years they only characterized not giving a crap.

This is not trash talk, it's just the hard truth.

This is one of the reasons people stop showing up right here.

Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: Peanut1 on August 23, 2021, 01:35:27 AM
Yeah, they used to be one of the best. But for the last few years The Unforgiven was consistently dropping the ball.

How many times did we see FSO orders arrive days late or even needing another squad to do them when it was The Unforgiven's turn as CiC? This happened on multiple occasions.

How many times did their CO fail to show up without telling his squad what their plane/assignment was? This happened so often that it pretty much became the norm.

It became clear to all the other squads that The Unforgiven was no longer likely to be an asset, but more likely to be a burden. Orders needed to be constructed not by how The Unforgiven could help the most, but by how they can hinder us the least.

The Unforgiven used to inspire excellence, but in recent years they only characterized not giving a crap.

This is not trash talk, it's just the hard truth.
sounds like the CMs are dropping the ball allowing the UNF to participate.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: perdue3 on August 23, 2021, 09:44:15 AM
sounds like the CMs are dropping the ball allowing the UNF to participate.

The CM Team wants all who want to participate to participate. Yes, at times, Unforgiven would need to be reminded of expectations. But, there was never a need to disallow participation like some have suggested. They received multiple reminders and in the end capitulated because of internal struggles and people not having interest rather than because of CM Team action.
Title: Re: So, what happened to The Unforgiven?
Post by: waystin2 on August 23, 2021, 11:40:28 AM
Yeah, they used to be one of the best. But for the last few years The Unforgiven was consistently dropping the ball.

How many times did we see FSO orders arrive days late or even needing another squad to do them when it was The Unforgiven's turn as CiC? This happened on multiple occasions.

How many times did their CO fail to show up without telling his squad what their plane/assignment was? This happened so often that it pretty much became the norm.

It became clear to all the other squads that The Unforgiven was no longer likely to be an asset, but more likely to be a burden. Orders needed to be constructed not by how The Unforgiven could help the most, but by how they can hinder us the least.

The Unforgiven used to inspire excellence, but in recent years they only characterized not giving a crap.

This is not trash talk, it's just the hard truth.
You are right Devil.  No insult to anyone intended-I see that.  I was there last year with the POTW FSO commitments.  When I saw the pigs attendance consistently lagging requirements, I pulled us from FSO. If I had not done this I would have expected the CM's to do it in short order.  FSO should never suffer because of one squads decisions or lack thereof.  OINK