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Title: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 11, 2018, 09:52:11 PM
This is the P-51D-10-NA named "Man O'War" (s/n 44-14292, coded QP*A) flown by then Lieutenant Colonel Claiborn H. Kinnard while Deputy Commander and later Commander of the 4th FG from September 1944 to December 1944.   He was an ace with 8 aerial victories and 17 aircraft destroyed on the ground.   He was also Commander of the 355th Fighter Group from February to May 1945.  Decorations include the Distinguished Service Cross for a mission in which he scored three victories while being heavily outnumbered, the Silver Star, Distinguished Flying Cross (7 OLC), Air Medal (8 OLC), Croix de Guerre (with Palm), and the Distinguished Unit Citation.

He survived the war but died in 1966 of a brain tumor.

This skin was originally created by Fencer and has been completely redrawn.   (Hate mail will be returned postage due.)   :devil

EDIT IN: The antenna is also OD so I will adjust that before I submit it.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394553.0;attach=30768)

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Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 11, 2018, 09:59:20 PM
The original.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394553.0;attach=30776)

Before and after.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394553.0;attach=30780)
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Devil 505 on September 11, 2018, 10:10:15 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 11, 2018, 10:11:35 PM
Very nice

Thank you, Sensei.

Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: lyric1 on September 11, 2018, 11:54:15 PM
Sweet. :aok
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 12, 2018, 12:29:09 AM
Sweet. :aok

Thanks, buddy.
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Greebo on September 12, 2018, 01:36:06 AM
Nice job Vraciu.
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 12, 2018, 09:27:30 AM
Nice job Vraciu.

Thank you, Olga.   :salute
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Mister Fork on September 12, 2018, 09:43:27 AM
Very nice skin - good blend of the camo against the aluminum. 
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 12, 2018, 09:55:24 AM
Very nice skin - good blend of the camo against the aluminum.

Thanks, boss.  Much appreciated.  I had a lot of things to fix on it.   They may stand out at first glance but there are many differences between this one and the original beyond the obvious changes to the metal and OD paint color. I think the change people will like the most is from inside the cockpit.  The way the wings behave in sunlight really looks nice.  Well, I think so any way. 


:cheers:
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 12, 2018, 02:23:50 PM
Thanks, boss.  Much appreciated.  I had a lot of things to fix on it.   They may NOT stand out at first glance but there are many differences between this one and the original beyond the obvious changes to the metal and OD paint color. I think the change people will like the most is from inside the cockpit.  The way the wings behave in sunlight really looks nice.  Well, I think so any way. 


:cheers:

Stupid typos.  Fixed.   :bhead
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Max on September 12, 2018, 11:53:07 PM
Lookin good Vraciu! :old:
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 13, 2018, 09:27:00 AM
Lookin good Vraciu! :old:


Thanks bruh!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Volron on September 13, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
If I recall correctly, this was Cpt. Dell's favorite skin on the 51.  Very nicely done. :salute
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 13, 2018, 10:17:03 AM
If I recall correctly, this was Cpt. Dell's favorite skin on the 51.  Very nicely done. :salute

Thank you.  I read that he passed.   Very unfortunate. 

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345904.0.html
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: bangsbox on September 13, 2018, 12:59:58 PM
looks amazing! i may have to pause my perk farming 30+eny ride use (have to feed my 262 addiction) and pony up!
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 13, 2018, 01:47:48 PM
looks amazing! i may have to pause my perk farming 30+eny ride use (have to feed my 262 addiction) and pony up!

Thanks, BB.  Any feedback after you fly it is appreciated in advance.   :salute
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Rebel28 on September 14, 2018, 09:07:54 AM
One question I have is why quite a few of the new skins and this is one. With the camo paint it looks like they have eight coats of high gloss clear over the camo. This makes the plane paint look really bad. Even more so when it happens on a Spitfire it just looks weird.
When flying the plane and turning if you look out at the wings the camo and metal surface have the same high gloss look to them. Flat paint should not have a high gloss.

The paint job on this skin is very well done. I think it is the way the game is handling the light reflection off the surface that makes it look very strange.
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 09:30:03 AM
One question I have is why quite a few of the new skins and this is one. With the camo paint it looks like they have eight coats of high gloss clear over the camo. This makes the plane paint look really bad. Even more so when it happens on a Spitfire it just looks weird.
When flying the plane and turning if you look out at the wings the camo and metal surface have the same high gloss look to them. Flat paint should not have a high gloss.

Thanks for stopping in. 

If you look at paint, even the flattest will have some reflection.   However, my painted areas are definitely not high gloss.  At best they’re semi-flat.     If you make them completely flat through the spec maps they wind up looking two dimensional on the 3D Shape which is really disconcerting. 


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The paint job on this skin is very well done. I think it is the way the game is handling the light reflection off the surface that makes it look very strange.


Have you flown it yet with the update or were you flying the previous version?

It’s possible one of my maps got messed up.  Let me jump online and see.

The metal and the paint should have much different properties. 

BRB. 
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 09:52:46 AM
Rebel, can you post a screenshot of what you’re seeing?

I flew it in the Match Play Arena and it looks okay to me, but my bias may be showing.  (I’d post a screenshot of my own but my laptop wont show details due to the graphics card being so so.) If it’s wrong the fix is pretty easy, so let’s nail it down and I can tweak it as necessary.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Devil 505 on September 14, 2018, 10:31:04 AM
I just downloaded the skin and I can verify that it has Supershine(TM) Something went very wrong with the spec maps.
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 10:54:15 AM
I just downloaded the skin and I can verify that it has Supershine(TM) Something went very wrong with the spec maps.

I don't see that on my end. 

At all. 


:headscratch:

I'll take some screenshots when I get home and see if we can nail this down.   It's an easy fix if It's wrong. 
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Rebel28 on September 14, 2018, 12:06:23 PM
With reflections off the skin looks fine but turn it on and it applies 8 coats of high gloss to the skin....
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 12:28:22 PM
With reflections off the skin looks fine but turn it on and it applies 8 coats of high gloss to the skin....

Ah, okay.  That helps.  I fly with reflections off. 

Let me look at it again.   :salute
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 01:38:57 PM
With reflections off the skin looks fine but turn it on and it applies 8 coats of high gloss to the skin....

Okay.  This is an easy fix.  My E map is optimized for reflections off.  I will update them to work properly with reflections on.  Thanks for letting me know. 

For now just turn them off if you want to see it properly. 
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Rebel28 on September 14, 2018, 02:37:39 PM
You may want to check the last batch you did for the same issue... Thanks for taking the time to fix this I like to fly with reflections on as it sometimes gives away distant aircraft. It also gives away aircraft turning.
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 02:58:30 PM
You may want to check the last batch you did for the same issue... Thanks for taking the time to fix this I like to fly with reflections on as it sometimes gives away distant aircraft. It also gives away aircraft turning.

Agreed.   This will be an issue for most of the skins I've done as I switched my E maps around.   Thanks again for letting me know.  I will fix them ASAP.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 08, 2021, 03:37:01 PM
Updated with better coloring.  Original at bottom.   I will eventually re-draw it completely but this is hopefully a step in the right direction in the interim.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394553.0;attach=33555)

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394553.0;attach=33557)

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Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Spikes on January 08, 2021, 03:38:35 PM
Sharp looking skin.
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 08, 2021, 03:40:30 PM
Sharp looking skin.

Thanks.   My eye has shifted some since I did this one originally.   I'll be tweaking a lot of skins with this new perspective prior to full makeovers.
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Devil 505 on January 08, 2021, 04:36:05 PM
Nice improvement.
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: lyric1 on January 08, 2021, 07:16:48 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: DaddyAce on January 10, 2021, 09:39:05 PM
Very nice V!   :aok
Title: Re: Lt. Col. Claiborne H. Kinnard - P-51D "Man O'War" (QP*A) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 10, 2021, 11:10:56 PM
Very nice V!   :aok

Thank you, sir, and everyone else who weighed in.  Much appreciated.