Take it from someone for wilfully sought what you describe as the bulk of their AH activities. Nobody really cares about skill in this game any longer. It's almost trivial to bypass skilful flying and the external and internal culture has changed. I no longer even get saluted for putting myself in this position and fighting hard, eventually and inevitably giving someone in the gang a kill. This used not to be the case, you'd nearly always get at least one salute, often several. Those were the days when this activity was rewarding. Now it's very common to receive mocking PMs, 'easy kill' messages when outnumbered 4 to 1 and I have even gotten very personal insults such as derogatory remarks about my son (the circumstances of whos difficult birth I was open about on this forum) just because I've out-flown someone. I've even had PMs from players on their country warning me to get out of there as 3 or more are upping expressely to 'get that b***rd Shida' (sic).
The only important thing nowadays is the results, getting the 'kill' by any means possible, then 'big your own ego up' afterwards. The score after all, never lies. I think the pitching one's skill against the odds game is over. Although there are a few of my kind left around, our fate is extinction. Most have already left in frustration, some quietly and some noisily and those that remain just haven't accepted it yet. Imho.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: Tilt on July 14, 2016, 10:43:00 AM
jeez nrshida..................glass nearly all empty? can we celebrate the few drops left......?
wanna get gangbanged? uh....uh.........
Lets do it!
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: oboe on July 14, 2016, 11:45:16 AM
Just not sure HTC would go for a term like this in their game, though I like the requirement - it does imply a "No Fear" willingness to engage against the odds.
Take it from someone for wilfully sought what you describe as the bulk of their AH activities. Nobody really cares about skill in this game any longer. It's almost trivial to bypass skilful flying and the external and internal culture has changed. I no longer even get saluted for putting myself in this position and fighting hard, eventually and inevitably giving someone in the gang a kill. This used not to be the case, you'd nearly always get at least one salute, often several. Those were the days when this activity was rewarding. Now it's very common to receive mocking PMs, 'easy kill' messages when outnumbered 4 to 1 and I have even gotten very personal insults such as derogatory remarks about my son (the circumstances of whos difficult birth I was open about on this forum) just because I've out-flown someone. I've even had PMs from players on their country warning me to get out of there as 3 or more are upping expressely to 'get that b***rd Shida' (sic).
The only important thing nowadays is the results, getting the 'kill' by any means possible, then 'big your own ego up' afterwards. The score after all, never lies. I think the pitching one's skill against the odds game is over. Although there are a few of my kind left around, our fate is extinction. Most have already left in frustration, some quietly and some noisily and those that remain just haven't accepted it yet. Imho.
Back in the day, the cure for this was the AvA (or whatever it was called back then). You had to be fortunate enough to live in a conducive time zone and be willing to fly a limited planeset with some form of limited icons, but I recall 15-30 players in there regularly. Most attached to solid squads, and IIRC all of them spoiling for a good fight. Oldman, in particular, was a wonderful sport--win or lose.
It was a great break from the antics du jour in the MA.
So sorry to hear about the remarks about your son. Not cool. :frown: <S>
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: LCADolby on July 14, 2016, 12:40:28 PM
Now it's very common to receive mocking PMs, 'easy kill' messages when outnumbered 4 to 1 and I have even gotten very personal insults such as derogatory remarks about my son (sic).
Get the InstaBanHammer.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: nrshida on July 14, 2016, 01:11:56 PM
Couple of years back that was. Was an extreme case. It was just spitefulness because some players couldn't stand to get out-flown. I've learned how childish and vitriolic some people can be over a game. Met many classy people too I hasten to add. Somehow means more online.
Take it from someone for wilfully sought what you describe as the bulk of their AH activities. Nobody really cares about skill in this game any longer. It's almost trivial to bypass skilful flying and the external and internal culture has changed. I no longer even get saluted for putting myself in this position and fighting hard, eventually and inevitably giving someone in the gang a kill. This used not to be the case, you'd nearly always get at least one salute, often several. Those were the days when this activity was rewarding. Now it's very common to receive mocking PMs, 'easy kill' messages when outnumbered 4 to 1 and I have even gotten very personal insults such as derogatory remarks about my son (the circumstances of whos difficult birth I was open about on this forum) just because I've out-flown someone. I've even had PMs from players on their country warning me to get out of there as 3 or more are upping expressely to 'get that b***rd Shida' (sic).
The only important thing nowadays is the results, getting the 'kill' by any means possible, then 'big your own ego up' afterwards. The score after all, never lies. I think the pitching one's skill against the odds game is over. Although there are a few of my kind left around, our fate is extinction. Most have already left in frustration, some quietly and some noisily and those that remain just haven't accepted it yet. Imho.
Yep. It was players like you, sir, which attracted me to this game in the first place. I wanted to be an nrshida (actually, a Latrobe... I didn't know you back then. No offense). Guys that would wade into the middle of a fight and take all comers. Guys like the guys in this thread. And yes, they absolutely would be saluted because everyone they were fighting knew they deserved it, and respected their effort.
Now that I've gotten somewhat decent (not nearly Latrobe level), I'm experiencing exactly what you describe. No-one but a handful of skillful players gives a crap about a good fight anymore or showing respect to those who give you one. The culture is toxic, results are all that matters, and if most of the players aren't 10-year-old juvenile delinquents, they sure act like it.
I quit for good yesterday. I literally broke my stick in half and threw it in the trash to avoid the temptation to come back to play in this cesspool. With few exceptions, it seems like most of the people who think like you have already gone the way of the dodo. Very sad to me. I loved this game. But it's not anything close to what it was before.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: nrshida on July 14, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
I quit for good yesterday. I literally broke my stick in half and threw it in the trash to avoid the temptation to come back to play in this cesspool. With few exceptions, it seems like most of the people who think like you have already gone the way of the dodo. Very sad to me. I loved this game. But it's not anything close to what it was before.
I saw that and was sad to see that my friend. At least we got a couple of good fights in together over tank town. I recognized you as a fellow spirit on that day. Times change, cultures change externally to the game. Sometimes takes longer to impress on such a closed community with a lot of conservatism in it but 'our game' - our 'sub-game' was doomed in the momentum of cultural progress.
Perhaps it's time to write my Aces High memoirs. Had a funny path and without design ended up in close contact with a lot of the top sticks of my time. The stories I could tell. Make your pointy slippers curl up at the end I tell ya! The dirt, the scandals, the factions, who made who, the advanced techniques handed secretly from one to another, the exploitation, the strengths and the weaknesses! Be a gripping read for the remaining dozen people who'd be interested. On the other hand I could watch UFO on YouTube and forget all about it :rofl
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: JunkyII on July 14, 2016, 04:20:18 PM
Make your pointy slippers curl up at the end I tell ya! The dirt, the scandals, the factions, who made who, the advanced techniques handed secretly from one to another, the exploitation, the strengths and the weaknesses!
Why did you have to bring up exploitation?? I've been hearing all about it lately from accusations at me and other people and I have no clue what they are talking about....I've started to just ignore them because I thought it was all a hoax....dang it I'm too :noid especially of shades :noid
I haven't played against anyone I couldn't at least kill one v one....they might kill me a lot more (Bruv, TJ ect ect)...but I can definitely come out on top (nice thing about infinite lives, learn from an infinite amount of mistakes). That's why I don't think their is any sort of exploitation in this game....especially in the MA...DA you can climb before merge and stuff but that's not defeating a game mechanic, that's just being an a hole.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: FishBait on July 14, 2016, 06:08:18 PM
I saw that and was sad to see that my friend. At least we got a couple of good fights in together over tank town. I recognized you as a fellow spirit on that day.
Agreed :salute
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: Estes on July 14, 2016, 06:14:37 PM
Why did you have to bring up exploitation?? I've been hearing all about it lately from accusations at me and other people and I have no clue what they are talking about....I've started to just ignore them because I thought it was all a hoax....dang it I'm too :noid especially of shades :noid
I haven't played against anyone I couldn't at least kill one v one....they might kill me a lot more (Bruv, TJ ect ect)...but I can definitely come out on top (nice thing about infinite lives, learn from an infinite amount of mistakes). That's why I don't think their is any sort of exploitation in this game....especially in the MA...DA you can climb before merge and stuff but that's not defeating a game mechanic, that's just being an a hole.
Funny how your tone has changed since you've put on the CM title.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: oboe on July 14, 2016, 07:39:47 PM
Aw, Fish. Sorry to hear it.
There's a pretty good group in beta these days when enough get on to get some planes in the air. I just had 4 or 5 great fights with Robbert in his Spitfire and he was never afraid to charge in and mix it up. And nobody else around to pick you in the middle of a fight.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: LCADolby on July 15, 2016, 05:42:41 AM
Haven't changed a bit.....well that's not entirely true....got more appreciation for the behind the scenes guys.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: Estes on July 15, 2016, 07:55:39 PM
Quote
<from junky in another thread just one quick example:>snip Tumor, you'd be one of those turds in the MA flying for garbage kills and failing to do it well.
Long story short is your bad at this game that you have played since Beta....just sayin''
I agree with you, I don't think you've changed at all lol.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: JunkyII on July 15, 2016, 10:22:45 PM
I agree with you, I don't think you've changed at all lol.
I remember typing it, can't remember why TBH. But you couldn't be more wrong about me.... and the fact that you just noticed a change in my posts just because you now see the tag on my name shows your ignorance about it(Or your bait) We should spar some time, I think we'd get along.
:salute
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: Estes on July 15, 2016, 10:32:18 PM
Would be a waste of your time, i'm garbage too.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: JunkyII on July 15, 2016, 10:40:08 PM
I don't know what the context was reagrding exploitation. I was mostly talking about the social sub-groups that withheld the advanced ACM even from their squadmates but happily flew with them to amplify their kills / status. Was my experience in The Few.
Regarding shades, not every shader is badly motivated. Some players just want to fly in peace, had a lot of PMs from people I formerly knew under other names. Awful lot of bravado and smack-talk in game. You read what I wrote about comments about my son?
Noticed you'd ran into 'squat'. You did not hear this from me, but you've fought him before, it is Rufio, DozyDuck, GunDog and a host of other names that used to grief players in the Tempest at the furball lake. Says he likes to 'hunt' people. He's in the MA a lot now because the lake is dead. Flies the Spit8. Very good at sustained turning but not well rounded ACM. You can beat him in the scissors if you can force the fight that way.
What keeps you flying Junky? I'm finding my enthusiasm flagging lately. Very hard to even find a fight on my timezone. I'm sure that's contributing.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: JunkyII on July 16, 2016, 11:34:07 AM
I don't know what the context was reagrding exploitation. I was mostly talking about the social sub-groups that withheld the advanced ACM even from their squadmates but happily flew with them to amplify their kills / status. Was my experience in The Few.
Regarding shades, not every shader is badly motivated. Some players just want to fly in peace, had a lot of PMs from people I formerly knew under other names. Awful lot of bravado and smack-talk in game. You read what I wrote about comments about my son?
Noticed you'd ran into 'squat'. You did not hear this from me, but you've fought him before, it is Rufio, DozyDuck, GunDog and a host of other names that used to grief players in the Tempest at the furball lake. Says he likes to 'hunt' people. He's in the MA a lot now because the lake is dead. Flies the Spit8. Very good at sustained turning but not well rounded ACM. You can beat him in the scissors if you can force the fight that way.
What keeps you flying Junky? I'm finding my enthusiasm flagging lately. Very hard to even find a fight on my timezone. I'm sure that's contributing.
Regarding the exploitation I was joking, it's just been one of those things that keep getting brought up a lot lately, but the stuff they are talking about are tail slides and stalls which I personally don't see out of anyone.
I dislike the shades who go looking to grief gameplay...don't care if they talk up some of 200...that can be fun but the others...like this Squat character....are doing it to directly grief people. Personally when I shade, I'm normally not talking at all to anyone....that's why I do it, to get away from the crowd a bit. Rufio makes sense....we did 1 round in spit 8s in the Da...he won, then wouldn't come back out...anyone who actually knows how to fight knows 1 DA round is no show of skill.
As far as what keeps me around...I can always say POTW, but I've definitely had some good fights...heck, Krup was beating me up in a custom arena the other night...was a good time.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: LCADolby on July 16, 2016, 02:38:09 PM
AcesHigh shoots itself in the foot by neglecting to police these people out of the game. Extreme griefing is a hate crime :old:
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: HollyWood750 on July 16, 2016, 07:54:31 PM
<S> Fishbait! Will miss you.
I enjoy the fights.
-HlyWd-
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: Vudak on July 31, 2016, 03:38:57 AM
I no longer even get saluted for putting myself in this position and fighting hard, eventually and inevitably giving someone in the gang a kill. This used not to be the case, you'd nearly always get at least one salute, often several. Those were the days when this activity was rewarding.
I've noticed this too and it is odd not seeing any sportsmanship from 3 to 4 you pinged up and survived against for a few minutes, but then again there were 3 or 4 of them in the first place!
I was on the other end of it a few nights ago and I sent a <S>, but neither of the other 2 with me did.
It's just poor manners IMO.
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Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: The Fugitive on July 31, 2016, 10:10:26 AM
That is because the "fight" and how you did in it is no longer important. Now its all about the kill count.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: caldera on July 31, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
Witnessed you vulching a few times recently, including yesterday.
It's fine if you want to promote "all about the fight" standards, but it lacks weight when you give yourself an exemption.
ah yes, yesterday was at A92 I believe. Rooks were trying to take Bish bases as they were only two bases away from winning the map. After a very hard defense by the Bish, the attack failed and we were forced into defense at A75 where I had a great fight against SEViper spit8 vs spit8.
I advocate fighting in ALL forms or this game, defense, or attacking. I fight with what the game provides as those were the only fights, other than the slug vest in TT, I did what I could.
I also HO on occasion as that also seems to be what the game calls for. I have been told from very high up that I should evolve with the game. I will still call for fighting as always, but if all your going to give me are apples, Im going to make apple pie.
Title: Re: Gang banged,
Post by: Vudak on July 31, 2016, 03:36:11 PM
I'm happy if I can find someone who isn't insistent on always and only flying the same direction as me.