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Title: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2018, 05:21:27 PM
Voting time!

Please pick one.

Ditto is very much hoping that people will pick Choice A, as that one is his baby.  It sounds like great fun!

Choice A
Fjord Fury
It is late 1944/early 1945, and the British are using Lancasters and Tallboy bombs to go after u-boat pens, bridges, viaducts, and various other strategic targets (maybe including Tirpitz, Lutzow, and Prinz Eugen, if we can get a map mod).
Action:  fighter combat, intercept, escort, strategic bombing.
Estimated plane sets:
RAF:  Mustang IV (P-51D), Spit 14, Tempest, Lancaster
LW:  109K-4, 190D-9, Ta 152, (and if the German side wants some, 190A, 109G with gondolas, Bf 110G, and/or Me 410)
4 frames.

Choice B
Nuisance Raids
1942, RAF and Luftwaffe trading blows across the Channel following Battle of Britain.
Action:  fighter combat, attack, tactical bombing.
Estimated planes sets:
Luftwaffe: Bf109F-4, Bf109G-2, Fw190A-5, Bf110C4-B, JU88A-4
RAF: Spitfire V, Spitfire IX, Hurricane IIb, Typhoon Ib, Mosquito 16
(Maybe add Hurri IIb and Mossie->Boston -- not sure yet)
4 frames.

Choice C
Pantelleria
Battle for Pantelleria (near Malta).
Action:  fighter combat, tactical bombing, antishipping.
Estimated plane sets:
Luftwaffe: C205, BF109G-2, BF109G-6, FW190A-5, JU88A-4
USAAF: Spitfire V, Spitfire IX, P-40F, P-38G, B-26B
(Maybe add c202 and b-25 -- not sure yet.)
4 frames.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Vudu15 on March 23, 2018, 05:49:54 PM
My 2 cents would be to wait until fall for the next scenario and really plan it out. Get COs and really hammer out plane sets and missions for the sides along with scoring system.

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Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: BFOOT1 on March 23, 2018, 06:01:46 PM
My 2 cents would be to wait until fall for the next scenario and really plan it out. Get COs and really hammer out plane sets and missions for the sides along with scoring system.

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+1  :salute
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2018, 06:31:21 PM
I vote for A.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Spikes on March 23, 2018, 06:38:18 PM
My 2 cents would be to wait until fall for the next scenario and really plan it out. Get COs and really hammer out plane sets and missions for the sides along with scoring system.

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+1
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: perdue3 on March 23, 2018, 06:38:54 PM
Summer months are difficult on Saturday afternoons USA. I would say wait until September. That being said, Pantelleria (with 190A-5's) would be my vote.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: TWCAxew on March 23, 2018, 07:27:55 PM
Summer time its gonna be impossible to commit 4 frames for me. I was hoping on a 12 hour event there.  But A sounds like allot of fun.

DutchVII
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Dace on March 23, 2018, 07:37:15 PM
C
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: shotgunneeley on March 24, 2018, 12:12:52 AM
Choice “C”. As a 12hr event. In the early fall (Septemberish).
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: oboe on March 24, 2018, 08:01:19 AM
"B", as a 12 hr event (due to difficulty in getting 4 Saturdays in a row open during the summer).

"A" sounds intriguing but I think it should have the details hammered out first - having the German capital ships anchored in fjords is critical to me for this type of setting so I can't vote for it on a "maybe/if we get a map mod" - it has to be 'in' and tested first.   Also, the Royal Navy was operating F4Us from the HMS Victorious and had used them to provide air cover for attacks on the Tirpitz; that might be a great aircraft to include.   Might help the design appeal to even more players.   

 
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: waystin2 on March 24, 2018, 08:43:21 AM
B or C and I concur with a 12 hour event in the fall.  I can get my whole squad involved throughout the day. :aok
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: DaddyAce on March 24, 2018, 09:24:12 AM
They all sound like fun to me, maybe a slight preference for A.  I also like Oboe's idea about adding in F4u, and have a slight preference for the 12 hour format.  Basically, I'm easy, always enjoy scenarios and will participate when I can.

 :salute
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: KillyJim on March 24, 2018, 11:00:47 AM
No strong preference, but "A".
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: 1Canukk on March 24, 2018, 11:54:55 AM
They all seem well balanced...But A.. :aok :airplane:  D9
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Arlo on March 24, 2018, 03:09:42 PM
Panty-lerra.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: AKKuya on March 24, 2018, 07:15:58 PM
I vote C with a side of a 72 hour Scenario.  Separate the men from the boys.   :devil
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Vudu15 on March 24, 2018, 07:57:54 PM
How long is the voting going to go on for?
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: waystin2 on March 24, 2018, 08:15:03 PM
I vote C with a side of a 72 hour Scenario.  Separate the men from the boys.   :devil
Holy cow Kuya! You are an animal!
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Arlo on March 24, 2018, 08:43:02 PM
Holy cow Kuya! You are an animal!

He's a genius.  :D
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Popsman on March 25, 2018, 10:40:12 AM
I vote for A
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Vudu15 on March 25, 2018, 12:45:35 PM
So let me lay this out again. We should be voting for the fall scenario. Look at your timeline.

1.vote
2.writeup
3.find COs
4.COs find GLs
5.Plan the event per side.

This setup is absolutely unfair to those folks who may step up as COs. The average pilot won't see this from thier seats. Your not giving enough time to advertise the event let the COs and GLs get thier groups together and actually get their people together to plan the event. Not even speaking on the issue of discrepancies in the event write up as far as aircraft and missions are concerned.

I dont follow why you would rush these events together and continue to either force experienced folks to take the reigns or burn prospective COs on their first attempts at a scenario.

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Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: BFOOT1 on March 25, 2018, 12:53:49 PM
So let me lay this out again. We should be voting for the fall scenario. Look at your timeline.

1.vote
2.writeup
3.find COs
4.COs find GLs
5.Plan the event per side.

This setup is absolutely unfair to those folks who may step up as COs. The average pilot won't see this from thier seats. Your not giving enough time to advertise the event let the COs and GLs get thier groups together and actually get their people together to plan the event. Not even speaking on the issue of discrepancies in the event write up as far as aircraft and missions are concerned.

I dont follow why you would rush these events together and continue to either force experienced folks to take the reigns or burn prospective COs on their first attempts at a scenario.

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+1  :salute
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Devil 505 on March 25, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
So let me lay this out again. We should be voting for the fall scenario. Look at your timeline.

1.vote
2.writeup
3.find COs
4.COs find GLs
5.Plan the event per side.

This setup is absolutely unfair to those folks who may step up as COs. The average pilot won't see this from thier seats. Your not giving enough time to advertise the event let the COs and GLs get thier groups together and actually get their people together to plan the event. Not even speaking on the issue of discrepancies in the event write up as far as aircraft and missions are concerned.

I dont follow why you would rush these events together and continue to either force experienced folks to take the reigns or burn prospective COs on their first attempts at a scenario.

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Truth
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Brooke on March 25, 2018, 01:09:10 PM
We have 3 scenarios per year:  approximately February, June, and October.

3 events in a year is not a gigantic feat.

Whether you think so or not, thought, this is a topic -- for anyone who wants to vote -- to write "A", "B", or "C".
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: swareiam on March 25, 2018, 01:26:16 PM
Pantellaria "C"
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Guppy35 on March 25, 2018, 01:30:26 PM
Granted I’m probably to history minded, but it’s hard to vote based on the descriptions.

A-No Tempests or Spit 14s made the run to Norway.  RAF Mustang III and IV did out of Peterhead Scotland.  The 4th FG of the USAAF also escorted to Norway.   Since we don’t have Beaus 😀. Mossies escorted by RAF 51s make sense.  They could escort the Lancs too.  For variety RN Avengers escorted by RN Hellcats and Corsairs makes sense.  No 152s or K4s up that way either.

B-make it 43 and don’t make it offense for both sides.  We made that mistake once before.  In 42 the Tiffie was not being used as an intruder but thier tails were falling off.  hurricane IIs were slaughtered.  The Spit IX barely showed up until the end of the year.   If you do 43 the AH plane set works better.  Tiffie and Mossie Intruders.  RAF Mitchell’s and Boston’s escorted by Spit V and IX.  Spits were also escorting USAAF 26s as well. LW was on defense and knocking down lots of RAF as the Allies tried to keep them busy to relieve pressure on the Russian front.

C-this on is closest in terms of history and the plane set of the three as written.  Seems like we’ve been there before though.

So history wise I’d vote C right now.   I’d love to fly A however as it would be different and could be done more accurately with the AH plane set we have.   As a kid I read about it in Roger Freeman’s book “Mustang at War”.  The chapter was called “A Separate Little War”. I always thought that would be a great title for a scenario  :aok
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: KCDitto on March 25, 2018, 02:21:46 PM
A
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Vudu15 on March 25, 2018, 02:28:42 PM
We have 3 scenarios per year:  approximately February, June, and October.

3 events in a year is not a gigantic feat.

Whether you think so or not, thought, this is a topic -- for anyone who wants to vote -- to write "A", "B", or "C".
Lol yeah beacuse you don't have to lead em...all three of these options are ate up plane wise. And time will be needed to fix the opening write up once you decide what wild DnD time raid were heading out on. You are not making this fun for side COs the average guy will have fun for the most part no matter what is put up. The folks that lead these events shouldnt be thrown through the wringer just to squeeze out 3 event per year.

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Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: pope14 on March 25, 2018, 03:08:13 PM
C and if you need any help testing flight times or anything ill help out.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Brooke on March 25, 2018, 03:08:42 PM
Lol yeah beacuse you don't have to lead em...

Fear not.  I have some relevant experience.

I've flown all frames of 52 scenarios.

I have been CO seven times and GL (where I participated in strategy and led portions of a side) another 25 times.

Some of those where I was CO were among the most-complicated designs.  Also, I was axis CO in Rangoon, '42, which is one of the hardest (perhaps the hardest) on the axis side.

Anyway, despite any of that, history proves that running 3 scenarios per year works just fine.

It has been done many times, and worked out fine.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: SNO on March 25, 2018, 04:43:21 PM
A.  12 hour event
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: perdue3 on March 25, 2018, 05:10:40 PM
What about a summer scenario ran on Saturday nights EST? I don't know about most people in here, but my summer Saturdays are filled until dark. If they are not, I will fill them with something that is not video games (weather allowing).

Granted it is not June, but last night we had around 70 players for Fortress Europe test. This was not what you would call heavily advertised, just some words put in FSO squads' ears. In fact, many from the MA decided to land their 5.0 ENY birds and chase bombers (in order to kill or protect) for an hour or two. I think a scenario around the same time could produce high numbers, plus no one would have to concede a summer Saturday afternoon. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Wiley on March 25, 2018, 05:28:50 PM
A sounds good.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Brooke on March 25, 2018, 05:49:55 PM
The problem with us night is that no europeans can play.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: AKKuya on March 25, 2018, 08:14:35 PM
I vote C with a side of a 72 hour Scenario.  Separate the men from the boys.   :devil
Holy cow Kuya! You are an animal!
He's a genius.  :D

For the finale, both sides spawn into the same area with jeeps and fight to the last man driving.  Kill shooter off.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: puller on March 26, 2018, 08:27:51 AM
A.

Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: tudza on March 29, 2018, 06:58:04 PM
Scenario A
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: TheKenzer on March 30, 2018, 07:21:48 PM
Choice A
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Rocco on March 30, 2018, 08:04:55 PM
A
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Vudu15 on March 30, 2018, 08:42:52 PM
So what happens if you don't get the map for option A....

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Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Brooke on March 30, 2018, 09:56:29 PM
We have it.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: 1ijac on March 31, 2018, 01:05:28 PM
A   12 hour preferred.   

one-eye 
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: FBDragon on April 02, 2018, 10:40:21 PM
C 12hr. :cheers:
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Brooke on April 03, 2018, 06:19:37 PM
A has the vote.

Next up is posting a preliminary design for player input.
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Dace on April 04, 2018, 04:52:26 AM
IMHO, lately, we don't have enough participants to make option A a viable scenario, unless you make it 12 hrs. Sorry but not gonna waste four Saturdays in June on this.

Good luck and see ya next time.

 :salute
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Brooke on April 04, 2018, 03:00:33 PM
The one after this will be approximately October.  Hope to see you in that one, Dace. <S>
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: TequilaChaser on April 05, 2018, 02:19:21 PM
Hoping you take into consideration, oboe's and Corky's suggestions of possibly including RN Avengers escorted by RN Hellcats and Corsairs

variety is the spice of life  :D  :cheers:   :old:

 :salute

TC
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: waystin2 on April 05, 2018, 02:41:54 PM
IMHO, lately, we don't have enough participants to make option A a viable scenario, unless you make it 12 hrs. Sorry but not gonna waste four Saturdays in June on this.

Good luck and see ya next time.

 :salute
I am out in June as well Dace.  My wife would hang me!  :uhoh  See you fellas for the Fall event.

 :salute
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: puller on April 05, 2018, 03:30:21 PM
I am out in June as well Dace.  My wife would hang me!  :uhoh  See you fellas for the Fall event.

 :salute

Wife threatened my livelihood before the last one...Can't argue with a woman that watches you while you sleep  :bolt: :noid
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: bangsbox on April 05, 2018, 03:49:00 PM
A and 262s! 
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: Vudu15 on April 05, 2018, 07:45:11 PM
Hoping you take into consideration, oboe's and Corky's suggestions of possibly including RN Avengers escorted by RN Hellcats and Corsairs

variety is the spice of life  :D  :cheers:   :old:

 :salute

TC

This. drop the TAs and Temps and bring either F4Us or F6Fs along with mossies as standins for Beaufighters
Title: Re: Vote for the June, 2018 scenario
Post by: waystin2 on April 06, 2018, 07:13:36 AM
Wife threatened my livelihood before the last one...Can't argue with a woman that watches you while you sleep  :bolt: :noid
:rofl  You understand my friend....  :aok