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Title: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Arlo on January 26, 2020, 09:04:21 PM
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January 27th is international Holocaust Remembrance Day. A day commemorating the genocide that resulted in the deaths of 6 million Jews and 11 million others, at the filthy hands of the Nazi regime and its collaborators.

Today we chose to share a picture of a P-38 flown by Jewish fighter pilot Philip Goldstein of the 49th Fighter Squadron.

Most people are not fond of seeing a swastika, but we have a feeling that Phil didn't mind painting them on his P-38 called "JEWBOY".

Never Forget
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Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Shuffler on January 27, 2020, 12:03:06 AM
 :salute
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Copprhed on January 27, 2020, 03:01:08 AM
Never Again!!! :pray
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: SysError on January 27, 2020, 05:39:06 AM
Found this.  Interesting.

http://theyweresoldiers.com/index.php/tag/philip-m-goldstein/ (http://theyweresoldiers.com/index.php/tag/philip-m-goldstein/)
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: OldNitro on January 27, 2020, 07:16:15 AM
150 million dead from Socialism worldwide, and the number keeps climbing..

Never Forget, that the fight for freedom never ended..
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Arlo on January 27, 2020, 07:41:51 AM
150 million dead from Socialism worldwide, and the number keeps climbing..

Never Forget, that the fight for freedom never ended..

Please don't try to misdirect the thread in this manner.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Busher on January 27, 2020, 07:53:06 AM
Please don't try to misdirect the thread in this manner.

+1
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: OldNitro on January 27, 2020, 08:23:27 AM
Please don't try to misdirect the thread in this manner.

6 million give or take, approx 50 million total WW2 dead..
Chalked up by the the German National Socialists..

Just a portion, of a much larger total that keeps growing..
Killed at Treblinka, or at Kolyma, they are just as dead..

I think they should ALL be remembered..
How does that misdirect the thread???
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Arlo on January 27, 2020, 08:28:33 AM
*Sigh* I asked nicely.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Copprhed on January 27, 2020, 08:41:35 AM
Some people just don't get it. Nazi's were not Socialists, they were Fascists. BIG difference. Quit trying to hijack a thread.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: OldNitro on January 27, 2020, 08:44:08 AM
Some people just don't get it. Nazi's were not Socialists, they were Fascists. BIG difference. Quit trying to hijack a thread.

NSDAP = NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY..
Workers of the world Unite!
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Busher on January 27, 2020, 08:46:36 AM
6 million give or take, approx 50 million total WW2 dead..
Chalked up by the the German National Socialists..

Just a portion, of a much larger total that keeps growing..
Killed at Treblinka, or at Kolyma, they are just as dead..

I think they should ALL be remembered..
How does that misdirect the thread???

I think more correctly, WW2 was instigated by a charismatic megalomaniac with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

He gained support for his leadership and subsequently for war by professing hatred for others and blaming the economic issues of the Great Depression on a single race of people.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: OldNitro on January 27, 2020, 08:51:21 AM
I think more correctly, WW2 was instigated by a charismatic megalomaniac with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

He gained support for his leadership and subsequently for war by professing hatred for others and blaming the economic issues of the Great Depression on a single race of people.

Absolutely.. Hitler Stalin Mao, all fit that descrition, others too..
What did they all have in common??? A Socialist system...
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Arlo on January 27, 2020, 08:58:11 AM
I would never have imagined that a Holocaust remembrance thread on the Aces High forum would be seen as an opportunity to equate socialism and fascism while pretending to care about the lives lost in said Holocaust but then some seem to have a sort of twisted political agenda driving their every impulse and can't resist.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Lusche on January 27, 2020, 09:00:59 AM
Absolutely.. Hitler Stalin Mao, all fit that descrition, others too..
What did they all have in common??? A Socialist system...


Just go away.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Busher on January 27, 2020, 09:06:11 AM
Absolutely.. Hitler Stalin Mao, all fit that descrition, others too..
What did they all have in common??? A Socialist system...

Quite shocked really that you can't see that parallel to any other world leaders.

You might want to consider reading up on the Dunning Kruger Effect.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: pembquist on January 27, 2020, 01:07:22 PM
Absolutely.. Hitler Stalin Mao, all fit that descrition, others too..
What did they all have in common??? A Socialist system...

Yes please just go away.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: oboe on January 27, 2020, 06:25:55 PM
I first heard this interview a couple years back and found it memorable - both for the horror this man went through as a boy, and how quick-witted he was. 

https://www.cpr.org/show-segment/how-one-holocaust-survivor-found-his-way-from-auschwitz-to-boulder/ (https://www.cpr.org/show-segment/how-one-holocaust-survivor-found-his-way-from-auschwitz-to-boulder/)

Click on the orange "Listen Now" button on the right side to hear the interview.    Today is a good day to listen to it. 
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Arlo on January 27, 2020, 07:37:05 PM
I first heard this interview a couple years back and found it memorable - both for the horror this man went through as a boy, and how quick-witted he was. 

https://www.cpr.org/show-segment/how-one-holocaust-survivor-found-his-way-from-auschwitz-to-boulder/ (https://www.cpr.org/show-segment/how-one-holocaust-survivor-found-his-way-from-auschwitz-to-boulder/)

Click on the orange "Listen Now" button on the right side to hear the interview.    Today is a good day to listen to it.

Thank you for sharing this.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: pembquist on January 27, 2020, 08:38:54 PM
If you want something to read about the Holocaust I recommend the memoir "If This Is A Man" by Primo Levi an Italian who was sent to Auschwitz and survived. You can listen to a live reading of it: https://soundcloud.com/southbankcentre/sets/primo-levi-if-this-is-a-man-live-reading-in-royal-festival-hall (https://soundcloud.com/southbankcentre/sets/primo-levi-if-this-is-a-man-live-reading-in-royal-festival-hall) It is extremely sober and matter of fact and awful.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: perdue3 on January 27, 2020, 08:42:38 PM
NSDAP = NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY..
Workers of the world Unite!

The Nazi Party followed by a Marx quote, now that is interesting.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: OldNitro on January 28, 2020, 07:19:03 AM
The Nazi Party followed by a Marx quote, now that is interesting.


Well, in 1919, Hitler was part of the Socialist soldiers council in his Demobilization camp..
When Hitler selected the Red Banner to put the Swastika on, it was intentional.. He knew perfectly well that the Red Banner is the universal symbol of Socialist Revolution.. He chose the name, "National Socialist" Himself, because the Nazis were a Socialist Party of the Left.. As opposed to the Communist party, which were INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISTS, who's leaders were all Comintern agents being run out of Moscow.. No way any German nationalist would tolerate that, politically socialist or not.. There were many German Parties on the "Right", but the Nazis weren't one of them..

Communists and Nazi, are Socialist Kissin Sisters, born from the same Marxist Mother..
But those facts don't fit the narrative of the false left/right paradigm..
Without that false paradigm, the left can't label anyone they don't like, Nazi Nazi Nazi..
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Busher on January 28, 2020, 09:30:31 AM
I wonder if the Socialist Democracies of the world

◾Denmark
◾Finland
◾Netherlands
◾Canada
◾Sweden
◾Norway
◾Ireland
◾New Zealand
◾Belgium

are aware of just how evil they are (based on your clear expertise).  :bhead
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Arlo on January 28, 2020, 02:00:25 PM

Well, in 1919, Hitler was part of the Socialist soldiers council in his Demobilization camp..
When Hitler selected the Red Banner to put the Swastika on, it was intentional.. He knew perfectly well that the Red Banner is the universal symbol of Socialist Revolution.. He chose the name, "National Socialist" Himself, because the Nazis were a Socialist Party of the Left.. As opposed to the Communist party, which were INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISTS, who's leaders were all Comintern agents being run out of Moscow.. No way any German nationalist would tolerate that, politically socialist or not.. There were many German Parties on the "Right", but the Nazis weren't one of them..

Communists and Nazi, are Socialist Kissin Sisters, born from the same Marxist Mother..
But those facts don't fit the narrative of the false left/right paradigm..
Without that false paradigm, the left can't label anyone they don't like, Nazi Nazi Nazi..

Since you insist on keeping this Holocaust Remembrance thread all about your mistaken viewpoint about what is and isn't socialism, here's a source you might want to use to learn better:

https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

(Granted, it's been presented to you before.)

And some more, if you can read it all with a stiff upper lip:

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/nazism-socialism-and-the-falsification-of-history/10214302

But you can go on and keep believing Glenn Beck and the nationalreview.com and keep inserting your political views in threads like this one and insist that you were right for doing so ... mainly because ... well ... that's you.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: perdue3 on January 28, 2020, 03:47:46 PM
This thread looks doomed.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: OldNitro on January 28, 2020, 03:58:48 PM
Best way to see Who's Who..
Is kick over the anthill, lol..

Works every time..
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: Arlo on January 28, 2020, 04:24:37 PM
Best way to see Who's Who..
Is kick over the anthill, lol..

Works every time..

Again, not what Holocaust Remembrance is about. Rationalize your agenda all you want.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: pembquist on January 28, 2020, 04:58:18 PM
Just ignore him. He clearly does not understand why what he is posting is inappropriate. It does not help to try to argue.

A good movie that I think evokes the absurdity of the Holocaust is "The Pianist." It was directed by Roman Polanski who it seems legitimate to despise as a man however his talent as a film director is in some sense god given and doesn't belong to him. Schindlers List, not so much as a movie; maybe for people who don't know anything about the holocaust it is revelatory but for me it was too Spielbergian.
Title: Re: Tomorrow - International Holocaust Remembrance Day
Post by: OldNitro on January 28, 2020, 05:18:30 PM
I doff my hat, and remember, 150million people dead from Socialism..
That includes the 6+ million Jews murdered by the German National Socialists..