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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: captain1ma on March 05, 2024, 09:22:38 AM
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Ok so heres what ive come up with for now. Please take the time to Read this and critique it. I want it to work for EVERYONE.
please remember i am doing this at a EURO friendly time, but ALL are INVITED.
Also this will not JUST be BOB. as we progress, the setups will change as well. please understand i dont really know how to do snapshots or scenarios and am learning as i go along. Please dont lose your mind if i make a mistake. Im trying to make this Fun for EVERYONE!
Time: A sunday at 3pm EST
length: 2 hours--for now.
side changing: you can request a side change after each frame.
first setup, Battle of Britian.
Aircraft:
allies:
Spit1
Hurricane1
Boston III
vehicles:
Jeep and M16
Axis:
BF109E-4
BF110C-4
Ju-87 stuka
Ju-88
HE111
vehicles:
Jeep and wirble
side split 40% Allies, 60% Axis
Allies basically defend, but will have targets to attack as a bonus.
Axis will bomb targets and kill as many defenders as possible. fuel will be limited if i can figure out a good setting.
Radar: allies have Tower radar only. requires a controller that i will volunteer for so everyone can fly.
Axis: i will see about giving Darbar only.
Fuel, i will try to adjust the fuel to see what works. im not sure how thats going to work out.
Airspawns: for the sake of getting back into the fight i "Might" use airspawns. i havent decided yet.
respawn time: 15 minutes from death.
targets: southern bases will only have one particular plane at it. even vbases will be able to launch fighters.
all bombers must take off from airfields.
if a base is shut down it is unusable for the rest of the frame and the NEXT Frame. this forces the Allies to fall back if necessary.
the Axis will determine their targets, but i will give them a list of 5 or 6 targets, however 1 WILL BE london and that one MUST be hit.
if the Axis doesnt have some sort of leader or commander i will be it and determine targets.
if the fighter hangers are down, then the base is effectively shut down at a Vbase and fighter and bomber hangers at a Airbase.
the Axis determine which targets they want to hit but remember radar will be on for the allies. you'll need some sort of leader for this.
if not i will assign targets as im not flying.
If the Axis hits the Allied Radar, i will respawn it because at the beginning the Axis did NOT target radar. so radar is off limits on the allied side.
Base defense: you are allowed to defend your bases if you want. jeep and either M16 or wirble are active. its war, people die. that includes pilots that get hit with AA fire!
Allies will be given scores by engine kills. if you kill a fighter 1 point bomber 2points. formations are worth 6 points if they all go down.
ground targets are also scored as 1 point including jeeps and wirbles.
Axis will be given a score based on any target hit being 1 point. building, hangers, guns etc. 1 point each. if a fighter guns down a flak gun,
that also counts as a score!
Please tell me what you all think?
Jaeger1
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Looks like fun!
“Battle for the Channel” or “Operation Euro”
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Looks like a blast
Maybe delay on the dar to simulate the early less accurate version of the times
Thanks for hosting Jaeger1!
Eagler
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a delay on the dar will affect both sides. theres only one setting for a radar delay. thanks for the input eagler. by the way, you still suck and i mean that in the nicest possible way after last night! LOL great fights always fun to die to you! <S>
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MNM is always a great time!
Was the dar delay the way the bar did not show up in the grid until they where about half way through it during MOTA scenario?
Just wondering..
Eagler
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Id be there sound fun
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Was the dar delay the way the bar did not show up in the grid until they where about half way through it during MOTA scenario?
Just wondering..
Eagler
yeah you can delay it from 1second to many minutes. just depends on the settings. i cant tell you for sure what the maximum is but a 10 minute delay would allow the other side to be half way through a sector as you observed.
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MNM is always a great time!
Was the dar delay the way the bar did not show up in the grid until they where about half way through it during MOTA scenario?
Just wondering..
Eagler
FWIW, the delay for MOTA was 90 seconds I believe. Scenarios have had up to 4 minutes IIRC.
I'm not sure how the delay is calculated. I think it is client side because I've noticed it does not update for everyone at once.
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I’d can the wirb and replace it with an m16. Also, maybe find a bomber with closer specifications to a Wellington then an Boston.
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yeah i thought about that too, maybe an osty instead of a wible.
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I’d can the wirb and replace it with an m16. Also, maybe find a bomber with closer specifications to a Wellington then an Boston.
Agreed.
I'd also make sure to limit the target options a bit. As an event just starting out, there may be fewer people. I get having some flight time, but you don't want guys flying around for too long looking for a battle.
The time to action of MOA was about perfect. Airspawns are your friend.
Don't recall hearing a date yet, but I'd try and crank one out before summertime when numbers dip slightly.
If I don't have any real life obligations, I will for sure be there to fly it, and help support and spread the word in the MA.
Thanks for your initiative. :)
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respawn time: 15 minutes from death.
I suggest respawn windows, so downed pilots can take off all together
Fuel, i will try to adjust the fuel to see what works. im not sure how thats going to work out.
If the map is 1:1 to real map I suggest keep fuel burn multiplier to 1.0 - otherwise axis 109E will be in great disadvantage.
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im not sure, artik. i was tesing it last night. didnt seem to bad at 1.5. realistically they had 20 minutes over england.
my choice is move the planes back or increase fuel consumption.
feel free to keep the comments coming. nothing is in stone yet. all comments are helpful!
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the other thing we need is a couple of CO's just to assign targets.
as far as respawns: would you guys prefer respawn windows or a respawn time?
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im not sure, artik. i was tesing it last night. didnt seem to bad at 1.5. realistically they had 20 minutes over england.
my choice is move the planes back or increase fuel consumption.
feel free to keep the comments coming. nothing is in stone yet. all comments are helpful!
I'd go for faster burn than additional flight time to the fight
Eagler
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I like it! I'll fly if I can.
For spawning I would suggest either designated launch times (every quarter hr or something) or no restrictions with x number of lives. Unless there's a setting I don't know about (very possible) I would think the 15 min after death would be difficult to enforce. Would the launch delay also apply to safe landings? Having COs or even GLs to coordinate launches and targets would definitely help. I like the experience of coordinated attack/defense and I think doing spawn at will without CIC would devolve into a combat challenge type of vibe. Not that that is a bad thing I love combat challenge. It all depends on the vibe you're going for. That's just my 2c.
Thanks for doing this, I think you have a great idea here. Looking forward to it! :salute
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thanks Rocco!
there is actually a setting for limiting death to 15 minutes, but im going with a launch window every 15 minutes. the setting kicks in only if you die. if you ditch or bail or otherwise survive it lets you re-up a plane. i might even consider less time, but for now 15 minutes seems like a good number.
im going for a co-ordinated effort with CO's and GL's but loosely. i just want the european guys to enjoy what we enjoy on a regular basis.
thank you for being supportive. if i can pull this all together i might be able to start this in april.
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Most interesting. Will definitely be on if available.
Best,
Marc
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Ok so heres how id like to run this and you guys can tell me if it works for you.
once we get the hardware( planes and vehicles) hashed out
we'll do a 2 hour event with 4 assigned targets for the Axis.
there will be launch windows every 15 minutes for 3 minutes.
like masters of the air, the object is to save your plane, not die.
The allies will defend,but will have bombers to hit targets if they like.
all Axis bases will have 1 single model of planes. this includes Vbases.
Axis airfields will have fighters and bombers. same with Allies.
both sides will have jeeps and M16 or ostwind respectively. these are for base defense, if you so desire.
Air spawns: i will drop in air spawns as the bases get further from the coastline. this is just to keep flight times down to a minimum.
Radar: the Allies will have tower full radar. the axis will have darbar only. i may add a 30second to 1 minute delay maybe. i havent decided yet. feel free to give me guidance on that.
the Allies will have a air traffic controller(Me) unless otherwise indicated.
the idea of this is to have fun with some structure. i figure we'll do a couple of sundays of BOB and then we'll move on to something else.
i would ask the community to suggest setups, targets, activities etc. this is all about you guys. if it makes sense ill run it, if it doesn't, ill say something. i have no experience with this sort of thing so please bare with me.
i would like this to be about fun, community and camaraderie. please help me make it that!
Gary Davis aka jaeger1
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so the answer is yes to above?
also would we like to get our own forum? sunday European campaign? with axis and allied sub-forums.
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Ok so heres how id like to run this and you guys can tell me if it works for you.
once we get the hardware( planes and vehicles) hashed out
we'll do a 2 hour event with 4 assigned targets for the Axis.
there will be launch windows every 15 minutes for 3 minutes.
like masters of the air, the object is to save your plane, not die.
The allies will defend,but will have bombers to hit targets if they like.
all Axis bases will have 1 single model of planes. this includes Vbases.
Axis airfields will have fighters and bombers. same with Allies.
both sides will have jeeps and M16 or ostwind respectively. these are for base defense, if you so desire.
Air spawns: i will drop in air spawns as the bases get further from the coastline. this is just to keep flight times down to a minimum.
Radar: the Allies will have tower full radar. the axis will have darbar only. i may add a 30second to 1 minute delay maybe. i havent decided yet. feel free to give me guidance on that.
the Allies will have a air traffic controller(Me) unless otherwise indicated.
the idea of this is to have fun with some structure. i figure we'll do a couple of sundays of BOB and then we'll move on to something else.
i would ask the community to suggest setups, targets, activities etc. this is all about you guys. if it makes sense ill run it, if it doesn't, ill say something. i have no experience with this sort of thing so please bare with me.
i would like this to be about fun, community and camaraderie. please help me make it that!
Gary Davis aka jaeger1
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Is this tomorrow?
Looks like a bunch of work Jaeger1
I was thinking nothing more complex than a SAM Sunday Afternoon Madness :airplane:
Thanks for your dedication sir :cheers:
Eagler
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no ill announce it. it will be a ton of work. i might have to enlist sno if he can be bought!
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I hope some of you volunteers who make these things get some comps from HT for all you do! :salute
:cheers:
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I hope some of you volunteers who make these things get some comps from HT for all you do!
They don't.
- oldman
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They don't.
- oldman
Lame! Do better HT!
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checking to find out if i will interfere with anything. stay tuned for something next month. it wont be anything fancy, but i hope it will be fun!
start time would be around 3pm on a sunday afternoon for the Europeans. we'll see how much participation we get and go from there.
ALL Players are welcome to participate, however im just running it at a time thats conducive to the European guys!
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You're going to need landing craft, if I can make the hull armored, and a custom base or three
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You're going to need landing craft, if I can make the hull armored, and a custom base or three
you're hired! the usual rate of course!
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Now you're going to have to build a terrain for it. A few tweaks left to do.
I'm a poor man so you'll have to take half the usual rate for your terrain build.
(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=408996.0;attach=37373)
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Nice Easycore!
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Thanks SNO!
I can't take full credit. The original was produced by DUX, former head of the CM Terrain Team, and gifted to me as he left.
I've updated it twice now as the original, and my AH2 version, could use double sided polys. Not so in AH3 and I'm still chasing the last of the see-through polys. All should be ready by the time Jaeger is ready for Normandy.
It needs to be armored against tank rounds and if there’s time, I’ll recreate the V-base O’club on the upper deck as in the AH2 version. The hold gets a vehicle spawn plus a surprise.
Thanks for the feedback!
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I can do the terrain if I know what you need or want. :)
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I can do the terrain if I know what you need or want. :)
:furious You're going to let Jaeger off the hook?
:rofl He's in charge there, so yeah, if it's going to get done :aok
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i have a couple of terrains im going to use. easyscor is going to add LST's for us for a normandy invasion. so first we'll do a BOB setup and then we'll start the invasion of europe. this WILL include base capture. there will be tank fights AND aerial battles.