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Squadron Forums => Squadrons => Topic started by: xxTERNxx on April 12, 2003, 01:32:10 AM
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The Arctic Storm is looking for real Christians to wing with our squad. If you live in Alaska that would be cool. if not thats ok to.
CO xTERNx
Arctic Storm 11th Air Force
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Do they need Ku Klux Klan membership too or will just an 'ordinary christian' do?
Your thread is in violation of most constitutions on this planet. Nobody should be limited by his religion.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Do they need Ku Klux Klan membership too or will just an 'ordinary christian' do?
Your thread is in violation of most constitutions on this planet. Nobody should be limited by his religion.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Your thread is in violation of most constitutions on this planet. Nobody should be limited by his religion.
That you would say such a statement shows your complete and utter ignorance of most constitutions on this planet.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Do they need Ku Klux Klan membership too or will just an 'ordinary christian' do?
Your thread is in violation of most constitutions on this planet. Nobody should be limited by his religion.
Don't mind Siaf, he's stupid that way. Good luck. ;)
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Your Quite the Bonehead Siaf :eek:
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Oh yeah, I bet they have a nice macro too when they get a Kill
"Die infidel, die!!!"
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You're recruiting only people with the name Christian? Good luck! ;)
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since when do the kkk *******s get considered to be real christians. because this is a new one on me. my favorite bumper sticker still is "that love thy neibor stuff , i meant that" and yes you got to love the stupid ones too.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Do they need Ku Klux Klan membership too or will just an 'ordinary christian' do?
Your thread is in violation of most constitutions on this planet. Nobody should be limited by his religion.
your post is in violation of commen sense.
Ack-Ack
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while not one myself , i belive nothing was out of line with the first post. anyone has the right to be inclusive or exclusive as they want. alot of christians belive christian is a almost all inclusive term. perhaps this is what he ment.
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Siaf, that was really really uncalled for.
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xxternxx: Hi we're looking to recruit anyone at all, but only those belonging to this specific religion. no discrimination I swear.
-racist!
xxternxx: hey hey, let's not jump to big words, now.
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So how does asking for people of a certain religion make xTernx a racist?
Tern for standing up for your values in today's world. Dont listen to the idiots on here.
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i take it you've never been to watch a play?
carry on immaculate faithful, the road is long and treacherous.
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We are all members of the
Holy Trinity Church
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I believe in the Holy Trinity.
Hitech, Pyro & Skuzzy.
All kidding aside, we live in a country where they have the right to have an all christian Squadron.
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idiot..
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Lord, please protect me from your followers.
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your all insane
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The Arctic Storm is looking for real Muslims/Bhudists/Scientologists to wing with our squad. If you live in Alaska that would be cool. if not thats ok to.
Sorry to feel sarcastic, I'm not quite sure this would have had the same reaction.
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I see a tempest in a teacup. GL with your squad xTERNx.
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why isnt this thread in the squad forum anyways???
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xternx
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Will I go to Hell if I just pretend to be Christian?
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Why are there so many people willing to make fun of xTERNx? He is obviously looking for qualities in an individual that he feels certain he will get with a "christian."
I am amazed at the bashing that takes place on this forum. If you're not interested in joining his squad, then simply overlook the post. Your unintelligent, narrow minded, and overall uncalled for remarks only set the example for the impressionable minds that participate here.
...and to think some of you raise children. What a shame.
No offense meant to those who responded to xTERNx in a friendly manner. To the rest of you...well...no offense meant to you either.
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Originally posted by Maniacal81st
Why are there so many people willing to make fun of xTERNx? He is obviously looking for qualities in an individual that he feels certain he will get with a "christian."
I am amazed at the bashing that takes place on this forum. If you're not interested in joining his squad, then simply overlook the post. Your unintelligent, narrow minded, and overall uncalled for remarks only set the example for the impressionable minds that participate here.
...and to think some of you raise children. What a shame.
No offense meant to those who responded to xTERNx in a friendly manner. To the rest of you...well...no offense meant to you either.
Probably because some of the most narrow-minded people in this world are Christian. Especially born-agains and all these others that proselytize, secure in their convictions that everyone else is going to Hell unless you convert to their faith. This same narrow-mindedness on the part of other religions is a leading cause of human conflict throughout history!
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Seems most are supporting him, IMO nothing wrong with building a squad with the hope to attract pilots that share a common intrest or belief. The fact that its a Christian squad is irrevelant, Unless of course they try to "Save" other pilots via the radio buffer, but it would be unfair to assume that is his intention.
Shoulda been done in squad forum though
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LOL ...
I can think of at least three recent examples that prove that "narrow-mindedness" isn't a neccesarily a Christian trait. ;)
Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Probably because some of the most narrow-minded people in this world are Christian. Especially born-agains and all these others that proselytize, secure in their convictions that everyone else is going to Hell unless you convert to their faith. This same narrow-mindedness on the part of other religions is a leading cause of human conflict throughout history!
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Originally posted by Arlo
LOL ...
I can think of at least three recent examples that prove that "narrow-mindedness" isn't a neccesarily a Christian trait. ;)
No, indeed. As a matter of fact, there are plenty of Christians (not to mention members of other religions) that are, in fact, quite open-minded (not that I've met many yet, but they've got to be out there).
But any religion (take mormonism) that actively try to convert others are by their very nature narrow-minded in that they assume they are the "best" and the path to salvation, assuming "salvation" truly exists. Catholic proselytizing of Native Americans in California during the 1700s was essentially church-endorsed slavery.
One belief that has my respect, though I am not one, is Judaism - based solely on the fact that not only do they not attempt to convert others, they make it difficult for others to join even if they truly want to!
That being said, I still think we kiss Israel's butt too much in their conflict with Palestine.
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I don't get it either. Even if people hate christians, this isn't the place to get that out and xTERNx isn't the person to take it out on.
He's just looking for some squadmates.
Originally posted by Maniacal81st
Why are there so many people willing to make fun of xTERNx? He is obviously looking for qualities in an individual that he feels certain he will get with a "christian."
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But that's not what this thread was about ... even remotely. I think you've an issue you need to deal with in a less public manner. Just a suggestion. ;)
Originally posted by MasterBlaster
No, indeed. As a matter of fact, there are plenty of Christians (not to mention members of other religions) that are, in fact, quite open-minded (not that I've met many yet, but they've got to be out there).
But any religion (take mormonism) that actively try to convert others are by their very nature narrow-minded in that they assume they are the "best" and the path to salvation, assuming "salvation" truly exists. Catholic proselytizing of Native Americans in California during the 1700s was essentially church-endorsed slavery.
One belief that has my respect, though I am not one, is Judaism - based solely on the fact that not only do they not attempt to convert others, they make it difficult for others to join even if they truly want to!
That being said, I still think we kiss Israel's butt too much in their conflict with Palestine.
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"Two men enter, one man leaves"
Challange him Arlo!
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While I don't share Tern's religious beliefs, I think it's perfectly okay for him to create a christian-only club.
That is... unless he expects government subsidy... then it's a no go, IMHO. :)
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"We don't need another heeeeero ......" ;)
(http://i.imdb.com/Icons/poster_under_licence.gif)
Originally posted by SunKing
"Two men enter, one man leaves"
Challange him Arlo!
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Originally posted by Arlo
But that's not what this thread was about ... even remotely. I think you've an issue you need to deal with in a less public manner. Just a suggestion. ;)
I disagree completely. I think a public forum is the perfect place to discuss this sort of thing. Holding it in, in less stable individuals than myself, often leads to violent outpourings of emotion.
But you're right in that I do have an "issue" with the idea of religion being infalliable. I think it is a worthy topic of discussion. The thread was not about that, but it did lead to it.
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Originally posted by wetrat
idiot..
Do you ever have anything useful to say?
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No ... you and a couple of others steered it that way and are still attempting to do so. If you want to have a public debate over the evils of Christianity/Religion and it's negative effect on the world in general and you personally, by all means, start a thread about it. But don't browbeat someone who inadvertantly:
1: Posted a recruiting thread in the wrong place.
2: Mentioned that they are looking for players players who have Christian morals and beliefs and possibly other players from the state of Alaska.
Maybe if someone posts they're looking for players who are used car salesmen you can jump into that thread and complain about the last car you bought. ;)
Originally posted by MasterBlaster
I think it is a worthy topic of discussion. The thread was not about that, but it did lead to it.
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kind of apples and fishes comparison between christian and car dealer.
same effect you ask in the dating classifieds that you only want HIV negatives.
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Your angst is noted as well as your skill in differentiating between good and bad correlations. (http://smiley.connectingzone.com/Smiles_files/box2.gif)
Originally posted by moot
kind of apples and fishes comparison between christian and car dealer.
same effect you ask in the dating classifieds that you only want HIV negatives.
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there's no sense in faking orgasm outside of sex.
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Hope some answer your call tern. I have seen a guy with the handle "forhim", and I believe he is a Christian. No doubt there are more in the customer base.
You guys fly for what country?
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(http://smiley.connectingzone.com/Smiles_files/box2.gif) < you're kidding right?
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Uhhh ... yeahhhhhh.(http://smiley.connectingzone.com/Smiles_files/brow.gif) Relax.
Originally posted by moot
(http://smiley.connectingzone.com/Smiles_files/box2.gif) < you're kidding right?
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nevermind you're on another frequency.
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Good Luck xxTernxx... and just ignore Siaf... too much of his 3rd world brainwashing carries over into his posts. If ya wanna really baffle him, tell him you'll pray for his soul. He'll prolly go ballistic and complain about that too!
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Interesting.
From personal experience, Christian qualities are not always to be found in Christians.
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I really thought freedom of religion was included in most constitutions.. Maybe I was wrong.
I really haven't studied others than our own so I took it for granted.
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Suprised this hasnt been moved yet...
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
I really thought freedom of religion was included in most constitutions.. Maybe I was wrong.
I really haven't studied others than our own so I took it for granted.
Do you mean freedom from religion? Because the constitution protects terns right to assemble with Christians, as Christians anywhere in the USA. You maybe confusions some of the rants of the ACLU as some sort of legislation or "law".
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I don't really see anything wrong with Tern's post, to be honest. What is the hissy-fit over?
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Ammo I always understood it as such that nobody should be discriminated because of his religion. That in effect makes remarks like the one in this post, unconstitutional.
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Urchin, SSSHHH! I'm just trolling ;)
Let's see the fish flop.
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I think people are upset because when he says "Christians" he's considering Christians to be better than others just because of that title. Like we are not good enough unless. I have to agree with Dowdings post, due to personal experience. Religion doesn't make the person, the person does.
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I think you're confusing the YMCA/YWCA or this squadron with an opening for a civil service job. :D
Again ... it's not an uncommon "Pavlovian reflex" for those who have unresolved issues to come unhinged at the mere mention of a word.
Blucher! .... oops ... I mean Christian! :eek:
Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Ammo I always understood it as such that nobody should be discriminated because of his religion. That in effect makes remarks like the one in this post, unconstitutional.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Ammo I always understood it as such that nobody should be discriminated because of his religion. That in effect makes remarks like the one in this post, unconstitutional.
Sorry mate, I think you are mistaken. To be unconstitutional, a court would have to rule it as such. I do not believe that terns request for Christian companions has been brought before a court of law to date.
Additionally, I do not know of any precedence either.
It may be that you just don't like Christians and never pass a chance to voice your opinion concerning the subject.
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I think it is time for this post to be closed.
xTeRNx- you have found, unfortunately, that the pool of quality individuals to chose from is increasingly becoming smaller.
Good luck, and don't let any of these less than well mannered love muffines (you know who you are) discourage you from enjoying the game.
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Well the way the post was put I understood it as such that entering outside the christian religion was prohibited.
That would clearly fall in the discriminating category.
However I noticed that the first amendmend speaks of the government, not individual persons.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances"
So in that sense I was wrong. It's not unconstitutional, it's just against the universal declaration of human rights, by UN.
But as I've heard multiple times lately on this board, UN is a useless organization with no value for this planet. :eek:
I wish people would understand that the UN is the single most thing the nations of this planet have ever come up with in effort to build ourselves a peaceful, better planet.
Sure UN has messed up royally on many accounts, it's stricken by politics. Still I loathe anyone who states it's useless or non worthy. Because it's not. The whole purpose of the UN was to stop armed conflicts, so it was only logical that they wanted to prevent the conflict from happening untill the end.
The UN represents the common good will of all the nations of this world, but the very structure of it that gives veto powers to the large nations, prevents it from being effective in conflicts where the interests of the member nations also conflict.
However the UN is not about giving the US an attack permission or not, it's much much more than that.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
So in that sense I was wrong. It's not unconstitutional, it's just against the universal declaration of human rights, by UN.
You're wrong there as well:
Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Article 20.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
http://www.un.org/rights/50/decla.htm
Nice try but you still owe Tern an apology.
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Hmm.. I can't find a part there that would OK discriminating people for thier religion though, do you Arlo?
IMO the whole sentiment behind the article supports what I said. Don't you agree?
I've always seen it so that you should judge people as people. Do that without regarding thier religion, skin color, nationality and such.
Racism is so easy to fall to.. And it's so easy to hurt people with it. Just recently I felt it very strongly within my family.. Maybe thats why I feel sensitive about the issue.
If tern had come forward stating his meaning was not to exclude non-christians but to invite other christians, I would have apologised immediately.
So, tern, if this was your honest meaning, I apologize.
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No, you're wrong. You have much to learn as far as the difference in open assembly and discrimination is concerned. Christian organizations (and sub-organizations) are as free to exist as Jewish ones, Atheist ones, heritage groups, etc. I would not dream of calling the YMCA "racist" ... nor the YMHA ... nor a squadron in AH that is looking for members that are Christian. Your logic supports oppression instead of combating it.
Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Hmm.. I can't find a part there that would OK discriminating people for thier religion though, do you Arlo?
IMO the whole sentiment behind the article supports what I said. Don't you agree?
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Arlo but aren't muslims, jew's and buddhist welcome to YMCA just as well as christians?
If tern would have come forward to clarify, all this would be unnecessary in the end. Maybe it was his intent indeed to be open.
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Originally posted by MasterBlaster
I disagree completely. I think a public forum is the perfect place to discuss this sort of thing.
Your comments belong in the O'Club, not here.
Ack-Ack
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Tern doesn't need to clarify anything. His squad can be exclusively Christian if he/they want. It's not against the constitution of the U.S. (and more than likely of any nation) nor is it against the U.N.'s declaration of human rights. It's only against your personal set of principals. Don't join it.
Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Arlo but aren't muslims, jew's and buddhist welcome to YMCA just as well as christians?
If tern would have come forward to clarify, all this would be unnecessary in the end. Maybe it was his intent indeed to be open.
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crimony...the response to this post may finish me off on the bs err bbs. Yes, the post belongs in the squad recruiting forum, but in no way deserves the roasting xxternxx received. what a bunch of squeaky whiners.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Your comments belong in the O'Club, not here.
Ack-Ack
Well, the thread was apparently in the wrong place as well... I was responding within the thread, not starting my own.;)
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Well the way the post was put I understood it as such that entering outside the christian religion was prohibited.
That would clearly fall in the discriminating category.
No it's not. xxTERNxx is well within his rights to have certain requirements to join his squadron. To join the 479th, you have to be 21 years or older and no one has accused us of discrimination for this policy.
ack-ack
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Sadly ACK-ACK they may do so yet....
I've have noticed that not only do christans have all shapes and sizes but they also have different COLORS!
I fail to see racism in the thread/request.
As to the UN ... let's see ...
One of their first actions was ....
in the congo there was a war between individuals that wanted a republic/democracy and individuals that wanted a communist/socialist state.
The UN came in and disarmed the individuals that wanted a republic/democracy, (for their own good of course!) stayed awhile, and then left taking the confiscated weapons with them thereby leaving the individuals that were pro republic/democracy defenseless.
Result ... many massacres of very many pro republic/democracy individuals.
If one reads the UN charter/rights carefully one notices that the word RIGHTS is never really applied. Privilage (ya I know spelling) is implied and thus can be takin away for no reason what so ever. Whereas a RIGHT may not.
The UN has a problem ... far too many member states surpress the freedoms of their own people, and will willingly do so to others ... OH and of course it's for their own good. (hmm should I throw in an "It's for the children" here)
Far too often I see individuals that seem far too intent on minding the business of, and the controlling of, others while using the argument it is for their own good as well as the good of everyone.
IMHO minding someone elses business, when their not attacking or violating the rights of others, tends to lead to despotic and antifreedom/antirights situations.
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What's really scary is the way you've been brainwashed into thinking the UN is a bad thing.
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I've only looked at the UN's track record thus far. And confess I find it extremely lacking in obtaining my trust due to its actions and activities!
If brain washing has occured the UN did it! Please read my previous post again.
The really scary thing IMHO is the way so many seem to think so highly of the UN while ignoreing the stances as well as activities the UN seems to take!
The Heavy handed treatment <--- (read here prison time and confiscation of private property for trespassing?!) of Americans within America while on American soil, soil which are politicians gave over to the control of to the UN.
The UN troops sexually abusing children and muslim women in Bosnia!?
The people that now are in charge of the UN human rights abuse agency!?
The UN seems to disarm people and then leave them at the mercy of their enemies!
They have actually worked very hard at destroying any trust I might willingly give them. Further far too much of what I see seems anti-freedom, anti-liberty, and anti-human rights!
Granted this may be because of my upbringing. I further confess my political leanings are towards the libratarian (ya spelling again) aproach. <---( please note I do not mean in the Liberal sense as in Democratic Liberal as I have come to believe they're bent toward socialism/communism ).
I guess I believe in freedom, liberty, and justice under the rule of law. Law which is based solely on the constitution as it was originally framed/intended. Not the new interpretations coming out of politicians that seem daily to violate their oath of office, and the media that doesn't give me factual reporting but heavily biased/slanted infromation leaving out anything they do not want me to hear that might affect the result they seek.
Something that saddens me deeply is someone seemed to feel it was needful to throw in the KKK thing when they could have easily ignored the entire thread. That someone seemed to feel an attack on anothers beliefs was needed for some reason I can not fathom. What will happen if someone wishes to start a muslim only squad? A Hindi only squad? A drunk old men only squad? A drunk old ladies only squad? A left handed nose pickers only squad???
If any of the afore mentioned "only squads" are ok then why was an attack on someone usinG the "C" word needed?
Didn't someone say that if we don't protect the rights of even our enemies we open the way to the loss of our own rights?
I guess what i'm asking is WHAT EXACTLY IS YOU'RE PROBLEM WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL?
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Since his squad would be a small private club, he is not subject to laws about discrimination on any level. Even if he requested only WASP's that hate all minorities, he would not be violating anyone's constitutional rights. Unless his squad turned into something that wielded some economic power that could affect interstate commerce he is perfectly free to do this.
As far as the UN goes, it's supposed to promote world peace and harmony, but all the reps do, including us, is use their economic and military might to impose things on other nations that benefit that benefit that nation, not the world as a whole. All politics are local.
On a more practical level, a christian is supposed to turn the other cheek, that could get you killed around here LOL.
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Good Luck with your squadron member search Tern.
To the rest of you guys. While not all of us show the qualities and traits that are associated with being good people; regardless of religious conviction and affliliation or lack thereof. I feel that being a Christian is an awesome responsibility and at times it seems like a burden but one that I willingly carry. I know others here are not religious (as in being a Christian) but that is well within their rights and privileges as human beings. I would not/do not expect any more or less of them than decent actions as a human.
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You know guys it is very true that the greatest battles ever fought was not fought in the air or on the sea or on the battlefields of the world. They have been fought in the human spirit. I am sorry that some of you found the language in my post to be discriminating, I did not mean it that way. All are welcome to apply to the Storm. WE are looking for Dignity, Cooperation, Fun. And for all you Christians out there I just want to share with you all an amazing thing that is
happening RIGHT NOW near Kuwait!
In the midst of this turmoil, here is something positive and a praise report. Our God is GOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!
Baptism in the desert
Pfc. David Kurns is baptized by Task Force Chaplain Capt. Ron Cooper,
left,
and 1st Lt. Brian Case, right, in the desert north of Kuwait City,
Wednesday, March 12. Eight members of the 3rd Infantry Division were
baptized in the desert on Wednesday. Use the URL below.
http://fortunecity.com/business/perot/1681/storm/id28.htm
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xxTernxx that's the spirit.. and my apologies.
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Originally posted by xxTERNxx
You know guys it is very true that the greatest battles ever fought was not fought in the air or on the sea or on the battlefields of the world. They have been fought in the human spirit. I am sorry that some of you found the language in my post to be discriminating, I did not mean it that way. All are welcome to apply to the Storm. WE are looking for Dignity, Cooperation, Fun. And for all you Christians out there I just want to share with you all an amazing thing that is
happening RIGHT NOW near Kuwait!
In the midst of this turmoil, here is something positive and a praise report. Our God is GOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!
Baptism in the desert
Pfc. David Kurns is baptized by Task Force Chaplain Capt. Ron Cooper,
left,
and 1st Lt. Brian Case, right, in the desert north of Kuwait City,
Wednesday, March 12. Eight members of the 3rd Infantry Division were
baptized in the desert on Wednesday. Use the URL below.
http://fortunecity.com/business/perot/1681/storm/id28.htm
This is EXACTLY the kind of cr*p (see above article link) that is so utterly annoying about the super-religious. You're calling all the rest of us sinners, who are "lost" to God and condemned to Hell. Thank you so much for want to save us all by converting us to your ONE true religion. The poor Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists etc. etc. are all going to Hell according to this branch of religion. Then, when you (meaning those from this article) send missionaries into muslim countries and tell them they are going to Hell because they aren't following the right God, and they have to convert, you get all surprised when violence erupts. Thats why wars start. I personally live by the Golden Rule - apparently I'm going to Hell for it.
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Originally posted by MasterBlaster
This is EXACTLY the kind of cr*p (see above article link) - rant - rave - stomp feet - foam at mouth - spins head ... I personally live by the Golden Rule - apparently I'm going to Hell for it.
Give it a break already! We all know you have issues. I'm sure Tern started this thread just to give you an outlet. Maybe you should thank him. :D
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What's really scary is the way you've been brainwashed into thinking the UN is a bad thing. LOL Who sounds brainwashed here? Watch out Siaf, the Christian secret police are monitoring your every move. Their plan of oppressing you through the formation of vitual squadrons is in full swing!!! Run to the hills. The Christians are coming! The Christians are coming! OOOOOOHHH the humanity!!!!!!
You're next MASSterblaster:rolleyes:
hehehehehe losers:D
p.s Good luck with your squad Tern. You guys will smoking the crazies out left and right <>:)
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For all of those who do not agree with a christian only squad don't join it, dont read about it, dont worry about it. If you are not a christian then he wasn't talking to you. He did not say everyone you must be Christian and you must be in my squad. He has the right to form any type of squad he wants. He did not say to you " you are bad because you are not Christian" I think waht he was saying is he has the right to socialize with any group he chooses and he chooses Christians. Why is it that because someone makes a choice for themselves to live by you peopl have to get upset. You would think by your reactions that he said you could not play the game if you are not Christian. That's not what he said at all. You are trying to take away his right to have in a squad who he wants when that squad means nothing to you. So who is violating rights here. Get off his back. You people just want to grip about someone taking your rights, but you never say anything about you taking other peoples choices away from them. If you don't like it form your own squad no one said that you could not do that. I'm sorry you people feel the need to pick on someone who just wants people with similar interests to fly with. I applaud you Tern for this thread we need more people in this world like you. <
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Do they need Ku Klux Klan membership too or will just an 'ordinary christian' do?
Your thread is in violation of most constitutions on this planet. Nobody should be limited by his religion.
Truly Sad.
please tell me you dont Vote?
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Hmm.. I can't find a part there that would OK discriminating people for thier religion though, do you Arlo?
IMO the whole sentiment behind the article supports what I said. Don't you agree?
I've always seen it so that you should judge people as people. Do that without regarding thier religion, skin color, nationality and such.
Racism is so easy to fall to.. And it's so easy to hurt people with it. Just recently I felt it very strongly within my family.. Maybe thats why I feel sensitive about the issue.
If tern had come forward stating his meaning was not to exclude non-christians but to invite other christians, I would have apologised immediately.
So, tern, if this was your honest meaning, I apologize.
Please tell me you dont Vote?
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Hope some answer your call tern. I have seen a guy with the handle "forhim", and I believe he is a Christian. No doubt there are more in the customer base.
He sure is and is already in the 332nd Flying Mongrels. :) Great guy I might add. I also heard their C.O. is a Christian who thoroughly enjoys the many “non Christian” members in his squad. Loves em all and prays for them all. ;) Also heard his X.O. believes quite differently. Opposite ends when it comes to religion, yet they are very good friends. Humm go figure… guess not all Christians are the judgmental, hateful, KKK type.
Nothing wrong with wanting just Christians in his squad. Nothing at all. If it is not for you then just pass it up.
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IF there was nothing wrong with this kind of request there would not be half the planet apologizing for him.
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Originally posted by moot
IF there was nothing wrong with this kind of request there would not be half the planet apologizing for him.
No, you have it wrong. Everyone loves a good game of whack-a-dufe. Apparently the dufes even love it. You seem to. :D
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monkeys walk. men walk. men are monkeys.
roses a red
tulips are blue
doesn't it suck to be you?
early high school smack from adults, clap clap well done.
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Originally posted by moot
you can stuff slang I don't know and eat it too.
His second try after edit
monkeys walk. men walk. men are monkeys.
roses a red
tulips are blue
doesn't it suck to be you?
early high school smack from adults, clap clap well done.
Ohhhh man! That really hurt! Cut that out! No fair! (http://www.clicksmilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/much.gif)
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well I'll have my psychotherapist send you the bill for massive psychological damages myself.
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Originally posted by moot
well I'll have my psychotherapist send you the bill for massive psychological damages myself.
Make sure it's only for this specific traumatic episode and not the rest of your life. I won't be a substitute for a dead-beat dad. ;)
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right im pretty sure your kids are (or will) grand jolly little things.
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Originally posted by moot
right im pretty sure your kids are (or will) grand jolly little things.
Well ... if I think this means what it almost seems to - so far, so good. They seem happy, content and well adjusted in spite of the hardships we must endure.
Now ... I hate to remind you but I've gotten you off-track in your attempt to belittle the author of this thread for being a Christian and inviting other Christians to fly with him. I'm sure you have plenty more to say about it and I'm practically all a-tingle with anticipation when it comes to the whack-a-dufe game. You better get faster when you stick your head through the hole. :D
(Oh man ... I didn't score too well on my Sunday school tests when it came to that "turn the other cheek" thing. Shame on me):(
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Do we need to add Moot to the "list" ?:D
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Originally posted by Slash27
Do we need to add Moot to the "list" ?:D
Hell ... that's no fun. ;)
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AHHH! THE CRUSADES ARE STARTING AGAIN!
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Originally posted by Furball
AHHH! THE CRUSADES ARE STARTING AGAIN!
What channel? Is it on cable? I hope it's not on cable. :(
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pay-per-view for $29.99
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Originally posted by Arlo
Well ... if I think this means what it almost seems to - so far, so good. They seem happy, content and well adjusted in spite of the hardships we must endure.
Now ... I hate to remind you but I've gotten you off-track in your attempt to belittle the author of this thread for being a Christian and inviting other Christians to fly with him. I'm sure you have plenty more to say about it and I'm practically all a-tingle with anticipation when it comes to the whack-a-dufe game. You better get faster when you stick your head through the hole. :D
(Oh man ... I didn't score too well on my Sunday school tests when it came to that "turn the other cheek" thing. Shame on me):(
right back to the subject.
And you, you know anything about my father? You have a diploma to decrypt the near infinite combinations of what might lead to each word chosen by each person typing to this forums?
I dont belittle the guy, i just say it comical if not ridiculous to go to a diverse population and hand out to everyone invitations that single out most of them. With reservations as any caricature makes.
I don't know what your kids are like, what your wife is like, and i don't give a ****. It couldn't be furthest in interest what you do at church, what you think you see when you put hands together and pray for this or that, even if you had found absolute enlightment, you could never transplant it on to someone else's brain via communication, so it might as well not exist in terms of social relevance
"In spite of the hardships you must indure"
That's the kind of bullchit i find stupid. What the fk do you think it is like starving in africa or elsewhere, where your entire living is spent in hardship. You can relativize it either way, up or down or better or worse or best or worst. That kind of belly button of the univers/world/comunity/neighbourhood/circle of friends is just fukin nonsense. Your a bunch of organs (not even in the scientific meaning) working about like everyone else. Whether they make you say one thing or another will change nada to your human condition, so whether you live christian or racist or optimist or pessimist, you are still just some guy.
It's not believing, its believing and taking for granted that your belief is right above any other.
You give moral base to defending christians, then go off to prejudice on the whackadufe analogy. potato peelin double standard if anything.
A morality (religous or else) to improve (eventually if not right away perfect) civility/socialism, but at the expense of others at your whims? Who buys that..
Single out every moral illness to this or that cardinal sin or scripture; dust and mold.
Supposed examplary behavior in conflicts, but does jump in flaming on a message board, pointing finger at fault instead of proposing solution, without even understanding the other.
That you are christian means jack watermelon worth more than anyone else; you have in one hand the peace of religion, and in the other the whackadufe hammer. credible?
Now, if i drop the ethical rules and do tell my opinionated preference, I'd rather see religion totally abolished altogether.
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Originally posted by moot
right back to the subject.
And you, you know anything about my father? You have a diploma to decrypt the near infinite combinations of what might lead to each word chosen by each person typing to this forums?
I dont belittle the guy, i just say it comical if not ridiculous to go to a diverse population and hand out to everyone invitations that single out most of them. With reservations as any caricature makes.
I don't know what your kids are like, what your wife is like, and i don't give a ****. It couldn't be furthest in interest what you do at church, what you think you see when you put hands together and pray for this or that, even if you had found absolute enlightment, you could never transplant it on to someone else's brain via communication, so it might as well not exist in terms of social relevance
"In spite of the hardships you must indure"
That's the kind of bullchit i find stupid. What the fk do you think it is like starving in africa or elsewhere, where your entire living is spent in hardship. You can relativize it either way, up or down or better or worse or best or worst. That kind of belly button of the univers/world/comunity/neighbourhood/circle of friends is just fukin nonsense. Your a bunch of organs (not even in the scientific meaning) working about like everyone else. Whether they make you say one thing or another will change nada to your human condition, so whether you live christian or racist or optimist or pessimist, you are still just some guy.
It's not believing, its believing and taking for granted that your belief is right above any other.
You give moral base to defending christians, then go off to prejudice on the whackadufe analogy. potato peelin double standard if anything.
A morality (religous or else) to improve (eventually if not right away perfect) civility/socialism, but at the expense of others at your whims? Who buys that..
Single out every moral illness to this or that cardinal sin or scripture; dust and mold.
Supposed examplary behavior in conflicts, but does jump in flaming on a message board, pointing finger at fault instead of proposing solution, without even understanding the other.
That you are christian means jack watermelon worth more than anyone else; you have in one hand the peace of religion, and in the other the whackadufe hammer. credible?
Now, if i drop the ethical rules and do tell my opinionated preference, I'd rather see religion totally abolished altogether.
Hmmmm ... well you do have alot of issues and apparently you have to deal with them here so ....
(motions to the couch, takes pad and sits)
How does all that make you feel?
(Doodles on pad and keeps expression neutral)
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Hmmmmmm....
Alot of issue! And comin outa the wood work even :)
To have really lived, you must have almost died.
To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor
the protected will never know.
Anonymously scrawled on a bunker at Khe Sahn, RVN
:D
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I have frustrating troubles with Mk108 deflections on the 262, i forget to tend to my cat's litter, and i always have that ball itch in the morning, however clean they are the night before.
It's all related isn't it??
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Probably but don't take it so personally when I say I don't really care. Oops. Sorry.
(Grabs pad and doodles)
Interesting .... go on.
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You can tell me what you want but i find that the recurrent antagonism between jews and muslums on Palestine is not very catholic, which as a result makes it rather incomprehensible; just as the ancestral hate between Tamoul hindus and the rest of the cinghalese buddhist population, by the way. While curiously the religious conflict in northern Ireland seems limpid to us and it's all the same more fun; thanks to good God, we understand right away what is in question: It's more or less two groups of idiots fvcking each other up silly.
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Oops .. sorry ... your time's up. I think we may be close to a breakthrough. I'll have you scheduled for the same time next week. Check with the receptionist on the way out. She has some paperwork for you. See you next week! :D
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that their mouth have a rictus,
that their arms be straight or crooked,
how cute they are, these arlo foetuses,
when their frail body swings around,
in a soft somnolence,
with a little air of regency!
when we give them a friendly toast,
each hits on his jar,
and the noise is musical!
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(Arlo keys the intercomm)
Code "cookoo's nest."
*Understood*
(Arlo turns off the intercomm)
What a shame, he fell right off the deep end and swam full speed to the bottom on his first visit. If only I'd gotten to him sooner. I hope he's happy at "Happlyland" asylum.
:D
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Ya
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Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Probably because some of the most narrow-minded people in this world are Christian. Especially born-agains and all these others that proselytize, secure in their convictions that everyone else is going to Hell unless you convert to their faith. This same narrow-mindedness on the part of other religions is a leading cause of human conflict throughout history!
This has nothing to do with being narrow minded or anything else.
It comes down to there's enuff religion crap goin on in RL. This is one place or time that you should not worry about your "religion". I understand that he does, but the point of this game is to get away from the RL stuff, and have fun. If your lookin for something in common with people to create a squad, you already have one, you're playing this darn game.
Oh, and if you haven't noticed, you're going to have a hard time to get anyone to bring their religion into this game, just because of what's going on in there right now.
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P.S. How long before this thread get's closed..
I sayt within the hour.. any takers? :lol
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I am apalled and insulted by this post. This is discrimination on a religious level and is illegal in the United States of America. It is against the law to discriminate based on sex, age, orientation, religion, occupation, etc. This thread should be removed. I cannot believe that people are actually defending that this is valid!!! I am embarrassed to be considered a part of Aces High if this sort of thing is promoted.
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I'm apalled by a 4 year old tread being dug up:O
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Stop punting 4 year old threads.
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4 year old thread? This has happened before? Why cant we please just keep religion out of this, its only causing arguements.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
I'm apalled by a 4 year old tread being dug up:O
o ya, it is 4 yrs old. Why doesnt an admin just lock it?
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Originally posted by xxTERNxx
The Arctic Storm is looking for real Christians to wing with our squad. If you live in Alaska that would be cool. if not thats ok to.
CO xTERNx
Arctic Storm 11th Air Force
Are you still looking?
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zippy 613th?????:huh
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Originally posted by Prohibited
Ya
:mad: <--after scanning through all 5 pages.
:rofl :rofl :cry
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Get behind me SATAN :mad:
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The real issue here is freedom of speech. We as Americans fought the British, Spain, each other (civil war), Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia (cold war) and now the muslem terrorists! But the real battle going on is once again against each other in this country! We cannot be defeated by anyone else except ourselves. America my friends will fall from within and it all starts with freedom of speech. You can't put a name on right or wrong. You have to see it for yourself! Truth is the only way to see anything and more and more we are being told that we cant speak the truth. But a lie.......a lie can come up from the pit and be told over and over. Someone once said "Tell them lies...the more lies you tell them the more they will believe" I think his 1st name was Adolph
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Originally posted by louman
The real issue here is freedom of speech. We as Americans fought the British, Spain, each other (civil war), Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia (cold war) and now the muslem terrorists! But the real battle going on is once again against each other in this country! We cannot be defeated by anyone else except ourselves. America my friends will fall from within and it all starts with freedom of speech. You can't put a name on right or wrong. You have to see it for yourself! Truth is the only way to see anything and more and more we are being told that we cant speak the truth. But a lie.......a lie can come up from the pit and be told over and over. Someone once said "Tell them lies...the more lies you tell them the more they will believe" I think his 1st name was Adolph
This is so true!!!!!!
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Originally posted by xxTERNxx
The Arctic Storm is looking for real Christians to wing with our squad. If you live in Alaska that would be cool. if not thats ok to.
CO xTERNx
Arctic Storm 11th Air Force
ohhhhhhhhh so there you are oh thief of names. :furious
Yes it is I, -tern- come back to haunt you in true fashion fit for the dog that I am... "Odee". :rofl :rofl :rofl
Good to see you are still around, sir.
JtropsI am apalled and insulted by this post. This is discrimination on a religious level and is illegal in the United States of America. It is against the law to discriminate based on sex, age, orientation, religion, occupation, etc. This thread should be removed. I cannot believe that people are actually defending that this is valid!!! I am embarrassed to be considered a part of Aces High if this sort of thing is promoted.
You are dead wrong sir. If you find something offensive, then you have the Constituional right to ignore it. Or start your own thread to spout whatever you believe.
This is about Like minded people seeking each other out. Period. If you don't like it, then you certainly do not have to participate in it in any way shape or form. You do not have the right to tell the thread owner how offended you are at it, nor do you have the right to be disruptive in it.
This is freedom of choice at it's best. Participate civily, or don't participate at all.
...there I said my piece no matter how old the thread is.
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Amen Brother!
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No such thing as freedom of speach on these threads or in the game. Its sad that you only let christians in your squad, but to each his own.
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Originally posted by Larry
No such thing as freedom of speach on these threads or in the game. Its sad that you only let christians in your squad, but to each his own.
"Sad" how?
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because not all players are christians and i find this bordering on racism/ exculsion of any race
This thread should be closed immediatly as it promotes the exclusion of anyone not a christain(which is technicly illegal in many countries) and altougt u may claim freedom of speech would u allow this iff a group of neo nazis came ingame and posted a similar thread for excluding races and promoting their own??? think about it