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Title: Book Suggestions
Post by: Banshee7 on February 05, 2021, 01:36:47 PM
Getting back into AH has gotten me motivated to do some more reading.  What are some books you suggest? I really want to focus on WW2 Pilots/Aircraft/Aviation.  I remember some suggestions from back in the day, but I don't recall the names.

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Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Hajo on February 05, 2021, 02:33:48 PM
Hey Banshee here are two.  One about the Luftwaffe Aces titled:  The German Aces Speak by Colin D. Heaton and Anne-Marie Lewis.  Great read and very informative.

Also one of my favorites titled: Zemkes Wolfpack.  The story of the 56th FG and Hub Zemke as told to Roger A. Freeman.  Freeman authored the book, story by Hub Zemke.

Both books from the Pilots mouths.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Banshee7 on February 05, 2021, 02:45:25 PM
Hey Banshee here are two.  One about the Luftwaffe Aces titled:  The German Aces Speak by Colin D. Heaton and Anne-Marie Lewis.  Great read and very informative.

Also one of my favorites titled: Zemkes Wolfpack.  The story of the 56th FG and Hub Zemke as told to Roger A. Freeman.  Freeman authored the book, story by Hub Zemke.

Both books from the Pilots mouths.

Perfect!  Thank you!  That's the type of stuff I'm looking for.  :aok

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Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: turt21 on February 05, 2021, 02:55:50 PM
An excellent work Im reading now is "Blood and Fears" by Kevin Wilson about American bomber crews in Europe and the atrocious price they paid. $10 at Chapters hard cover.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Rich46yo on February 05, 2021, 05:29:00 PM
Well its not a flight book but I recommend "The Last Lion" series about Winston Churchill. Its as comprehensive a biography of a world leader as you'll ever read. Winston was a fascinating man.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Brooke on February 05, 2021, 06:09:26 PM
I like Hajo's suggestions.

Would add:

The First and the Last, by Adolf Galland
Samurai, by Saburo Sakai
Baa Baa Black Sheep, by Boyington
The Wrong Stuff, by Smith
Masters of the Air, by Miller
The Few, by Kershaw
Aces High, by Yenne
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Banshee7 on February 05, 2021, 09:09:27 PM
I like Hajo's suggestions.

Would add:

The First and the Last, by Adolf Galland
Samurai, by Saburo Sakai
Baa Baa Black Sheep, by Boyington
The Wrong Stuff, by Smith
Masters of the Air, by Miller
The Few, by Kershaw
Aces High, by Yenne


Awesome!  I actually have read Aces High.  I have also read A Question of Honor about the 303 Sqn.

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Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Oldman731 on February 05, 2021, 10:29:30 PM
Getting back into AH has gotten me motivated to do some more reading.  What are some books you suggest?


Hmmmm.

"The Mighty Eighth," by Roger Freeman, is essential.  It's an expensive book to buy, but your library probably has a copy.  Even the photo captions have (often chilling) information, above and beyond that in the text.  Required reading.

As someone mentioned, Robert Johnson's "Thunderbolt," Sakai's "Samurai" never get old.  I would add Johnnie Johnson's "Wing Leader" to this genre.

Two novels:  Len Deighton's "Bomber," and my very favorite book of all time, "Twelve O'Clock High," by Beirne Lay, Jr. and Sy Bartlett.  I have read it at least once a year since I was in junior high school.  Long out of print, your library is your friend.

Beware of anything that Martin Caiden wrote by himself (which is most of what he wrote).

- oldman
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Brooke on February 06, 2021, 02:19:25 AM
Robert Johnson's "Thunderbolt,"

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Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Hajo on February 06, 2021, 05:49:45 PM

Hmmmm.

"The Mighty Eighth," by Roger Freeman, is essential.  It's an expensive book to buy, but your library probably has a copy.  Even the photo captions have (often chilling) information, above and beyond that in the text.  Required reading.

As someone mentioned, Robert Johnson's "Thunderbolt," Sakai's "Samurai" never get old.  I would add Johnnie Johnson's "Wing Leader" to this genre.

Two novels:  Len Deighton's "Bomber," and my very favorite book of all time, "Twelve O'Clock High," by Beirne Lay, Jr. and Sy Bartlett.  I have read it at least once a year since I was in junior high school.  Long out of print, your library is your friend.

Beware of anything that Martin Caiden wrote by himself (which is most of what he wrote).

- oldman



I have a first edition of Robert Johnson's Thunderbolt with a note written by Johnson and autographed by him.  It was a gift he presented to a friend of his who served in the 8th AF.  Most prized book in my Library.

I also have a book similar in Title to Mighty Eighth.  It's titled  America's Mighty Eighth Air Force by Warren Bodie who is said to have had the most photographs of WWII aircraft.  He's was a noted author.  He also wrote P47 Thunderbolt from Seversky to Victory, and he also wrote  the book The Lockheed P-38 Lightning.  Both books describe their aircraft from the drawing stage to the final models.I don't know how easy they are to find today.  Best bet is Amazon if you wish to find and purchase.

By the way, both books were published by Widewing Publications.  If you've played aces high since its' early days, the name Widewing should be familiar.  Yes......he's the publisher of the three books mentioned above (America's Mighty Eighth Air Force included of course)  He was a very good Aces High virtual Pilot also.  :aok
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Vraciu on February 06, 2021, 09:37:33 PM
I like Hajo's suggestions.

Would add:

The First and the Last, by Adolf Galland
Samurai, by Saburo Sakai
Baa Baa Black Sheep, by Boyington

These and the four below which are among the best ever written for offering little-known takes on their subjects:

“Stuka Pilot” by Hans Rudel

“The Other Battle” by Peter Hinchcliffe (One of the BEST books I’ve ever read, it focuses on the RAF vs. Luftwaffe air war at night and is simply brilliant.   Written and researched by a man who was there, he writes with a depth of knowledge only experience provides.)

“Shattered Sword: The Untold Story of the Battle of Midway” by Anthony P. Tully and Jonathan Parshall (Their original research and time-motion approach to the battle give a perspective that completely upends the traditional view of the battle.  An amazing read.)

“Big Friend, Little Friend” by Richard Turner

I have more but these wil do.

Edit in: I should add  “Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo” by Ted W. Lawson.   Great book.   
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Banshee7 on February 06, 2021, 11:48:58 PM
I have a first edition of Robert Johnson's Thunderbolt with a note written by Johnson and autographed by him.  It was a gift he presented to a friend of his who served in the 8th AF.  Most prized book in my Library.

I also have a book similar in Title to Mighty Eighth.  It's titled  America's Mighty Eighth Air Force by Warren Bodie who is said to have had the most photographs of WWII aircraft.  He's was a noted author.  He also wrote P47 Thunderbolt from Seversky to Victory, and he also wrote  the book The Lockheed P-38 Lightning.  Both books describe their aircraft from the drawing stage to the final models.I don't know how easy they are to find today.  Best bet is Amazon if you wish to find and purchase.

By the way, both books were published by Widewing Publications.  If you've played aces high since its' early days, the name Widewing should be familiar.  Yes......he's the publisher of the three books mentioned above (America's Mighty Eighth Air Force included of course)  He was a very good Aces High virtual Pilot also.  :aok

I remember Widewing well!  I also believe I have a copy of the P-38 book by Bodie compliments of Dan (aka CorkyJr).
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: MiloMorai on February 07, 2021, 05:51:03 AM
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Len Deighton's "Bomber,"
I hope it is not like his "Fighter" book.

The 5 book series, Black Cross, Red Star the air war over the Eastern Front. Expensive tho.

Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Bruv119 on February 07, 2021, 09:48:50 AM
Bozon recommended   "terror in the starboard seat: 41 trips aboard a mosquito, a true story of 418 squadron 1998" 

I had to order it from NYC as there are very few copies this side of the pond.   Looking forward to reading it.   

Having the Mossie in DCS will be awesome. 

I think my two favourites from my collection are Warburton's War: The Life of Maverick Ace Adrian Warburton, DSO, DFC, DFC (USA) and Saburo Sakai's "Samurai"
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Rich46yo on February 07, 2021, 11:28:59 AM
I assume you already have "Shattered Sword". The final word on the Midway battle.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Cluzig on February 07, 2021, 12:30:53 PM
Gunner's Moon: A Memoir of the RAF Night Assault on Germany
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Rich46yo on February 07, 2021, 02:09:55 PM
Gunner's Moon: A Memoir of the RAF Night Assault on Germany

Ordered. I have great interest in the night assaults of the RAF. https://youtu.be/TuW1LYBYMBQ
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Vraciu on February 07, 2021, 02:52:50 PM
Ordered. I have great interest in the night assaults of the RAF. https://youtu.be/TuW1LYBYMBQ

Get "The Other Battle" by Peter Hinchcliffe - OBE, then (he was a Navigator on Hallifax bombers and survived being shot down while returning from his 22nd mission--he flew over a dozen more after that).  It is on par with "Shattered Sword" for its subject matter.  It tells both the RAF and Luftwaffe sides of the Night Air War from beginning to end.   

Comprehensive.  Brilliant.  Five stars.

https://www.amazon.com/Other-Battle-Luftwaffe-Command-Classics/dp/1840373032


 
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Frodo on February 07, 2021, 04:27:22 PM
A lot of good ones mentioned here.

I would also add this one THE BIG SHOW.   :cheers:


https://www.amazon.com/Big-Show-Classic-Account-Aerial-ebook/dp/B07NJ9DRCX
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Cluzig on February 07, 2021, 06:21:31 PM
Ordered. I have great interest in the night assaults of the RAF. https://youtu.be/TuW1LYBYMBQ

It's a good book perhaps even a great book if you are interested in bombers defensive gunners. I read it when I was a kid.

There is another book who's title escapes me that's written by a rear gunner
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Shuffler on February 07, 2021, 07:02:18 PM
I always enjoy these threads!!-
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: 1stpar3 on February 08, 2021, 04:18:59 AM
While not a WW2 themed book....this IS an AH Player's written book...https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,393105.msg5217035.html#msg5217035     :rock

https://postimg.cc/image/qjaxolvdj/
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Vraciu on February 08, 2021, 11:46:02 AM
It's a good book perhaps even a great book if you are interested in bombers defensive gunners. I read it when I was a kid.

There is another book who's title escapes me that's written by a rear gunner

If you like that one you’ll LOVE “The Other Battle.”
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: perdue3 on February 08, 2021, 06:30:04 PM
Most of Yenne's works are worth reading. The later titles get a wee bit into the bookstore/popular history category, but still good academic works.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: DaddyAce on February 15, 2021, 03:23:05 PM
A lot of good ones mentioned here.
I would also add this one THE BIG SHOW.   :cheers:
https://www.amazon.com/Big-Show-Classic-Account-Aerial-ebook/dp/B07NJ9DRCX

Recently got this one free on kindle from Amazon Prime, am very much enjoying it.   :aok  Many other faves mentioned here but I'll also endorse "Shattered Sword", a lot of interesting detail about Japanese carrier ops.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Eagler on February 16, 2021, 10:32:12 AM
Air to Air Gunfighter by Geof "DocDoom" Evans ...if you can locate a copy

Luftwaffe Gunnery Techniques by Valkyrie Publications..also hard to find

Eagler
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: DurrD on February 18, 2021, 01:20:41 PM
I was going to suggest "Shattered Sword", but I see 3 or 4 have already done so.  Seriously, it is an amazing history book, one of the best I have seen on any subject.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: save on February 24, 2021, 07:48:36 AM
I Flew for the Führer, by Heinz Knoke - a 109 pilot in combat with allied forces in the west.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Gman on February 24, 2021, 04:22:01 PM
"A Thousand Shall Fall", by Murray Peden.

Local Western Canadian who flew bombers in the RAF during WW2, including Stirlings and later B17s.  Fantastic book, everyone I know who has read it highly praised it.  I have it kicking around if you want to borrow it.   He's 97 and still lives in Western Canada.

Some quotes from his Wiki page about this book -


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A Thousand Shall Fall received widespread praise. Reviewing the book in 1984, C. P. Stacey, former director of the Canadian Army Historical Section, said:

[it] is, within the limits of my knowledge, the best book any Canadian has written about his war experiences, and one of the best books about the war that has been written anywhere. […] A Thousand Shall Fall seems to me to have in it the stuff of a genuine Canadian classic. Canadians will be reading it, I hope, many years from now, when most of the 'award-winning' books of our day have passed into oblivion.[10]
In a letter to the author dated 29 November 1979, former Marshal of the Royal Air Force Sir Arthur Harris wrote:

I have just finished reading your book – in fact I found it hard to put down. I consider it not only the best and most true-to-life “war” book I’ve read about this War, but the best about all the wars of my lifetime – from the Boer War onwards. [...] at times it made me so sad that I found it hard to retain the moisture within my eyes.[11]
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Citabria on February 24, 2021, 05:25:42 PM
“The Blond Knight of Germany” is a good one about Hartman

“Dumb but Lucky” by a p51 pilot is worth the read also

As Vraciu mentioned “Stuka Pilot” is excellent.

Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Citabria on February 24, 2021, 11:40:17 PM
“Who are these Guys? Tampa’s Underground Airline.”

Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Eagler on February 25, 2021, 06:32:00 AM
Howdy Fester!

You flying again?

Eagler
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: perdue3 on February 25, 2021, 07:44:38 PM
The Dam Busters by Bruckhill and Enemy Coast Ahead by Guy Gibson are both excellent reads on the subject. Bruckhill's is more academic and comprehensive, whereas Gibson's is much more anecdotal.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: zack1234 on February 27, 2021, 04:32:55 PM
Can Americans read?

Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Brooke on February 28, 2021, 05:28:46 AM
Can Americans read?

Only if its written in american.
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Citabria on February 28, 2021, 08:51:31 AM
Hey Eagler! Sadly no as I have no internet or gear to do so as I am truck driving across the country which is surprisingly very similar to flying in AH.

Written in American... LOL!
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Citabria on March 03, 2021, 07:07:12 PM
Knights Cross holder Hennecke Kardel’s books are a good read too.

https://b-ok.cc/s/Kardel
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Blooz on March 06, 2021, 04:50:43 PM
"The Lucky Ones - Airmen of the Mighty Eighth" by Erik Dyreborg
Collected stories about bomber crews who were shot down or crash landed and how they survived.

"Fighter Pilot" by Robin Olds
Robin Olds started out as a P38 pilot in WW2 and finished his career as a top ace in an F4 in Vietnam. An amazing combat pilot autobiography. A real page turner!
Title: Re: Book Suggestions
Post by: Oldman731 on April 29, 2021, 07:03:34 PM
I was going to suggest "Shattered Sword", but I see 3 or 4 have already done so.  Seriously, it is an amazing history book, one of the best I have seen on any subject.


For those of you who have read "Shattered Sword" - which, to date, I have not - you might enjoy this, from the Naval War College:

Levy devotes special attention to Jonathan Parshall and Anthony Tully’s book
Shattered Sword: The Untold Story of the Battle of Midway, a work whose scholarly
thoroughness he lauds yet one he simultaneously indicts for an obsession with
debunking myths about Midway and with demonstrating that its outcome was to
be found in Japanese practice and doctrine.

https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1184&context=nwc-review

- oldman