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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: funked on May 27, 2000, 10:07:00 PM
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I could be wrong, but the Macchi C.205 seems to have helped AH in the Italian market. I'm sure some Finns were glad to see the Me 109G-2 markings. And I know some Poles who are very happy with the Spitfire Mk. IX markings. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
How about this one to capture the Brazilian market:
(http://www.jambock.com/jambock.gif)
Read about the Brazilian AF Thunderbolt squad in WW2: http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p47_16.html (http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p47_16.html)
Senta A Pua!
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 05-27-2000).]
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Cool! What is that, a D-28-RE?
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I don't know. I was given links to more Brazilian aircraft photos and will try to learn more.
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Funked is right. HTC should use aircraft and markings as marketing instruments. It works.
[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 05-28-2000).]
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The Jug in the picture was a D-25 and flown by Lieutenant Luis Felipe Perdigao in 77 missions over Italy. the D3 was also my first designation in Jambock Squadron in Warbirds (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
At the time of WB 1.11 the P47 was the "official" plane of the brazilian pilots and we even sent a number of e-mails to ICI asking for a P47D with brazilian painting and markings. Maybe our time is coming...
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Marcos "Zeve" Azevedo
Jambock D1 - Green Flight Leader
Jambock - first Warbirds Brazilian Squadron
Senta a Pua! - Go for it!
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Snub the Canadians at your own peril...
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Pongo, I apologize...
Canada shall get an appropriately marked Harvard.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Seriously, how about the Spitfire Mk. XIV?
You are correct in any case, there is a large percentage of Canadians in this game, and an RCAF plane would rock.
Ditto for RAAF and RNZAF.
A French plane would be great too, either something from 1940, a Free French RAF bird, or even a Normandie-Niemen Yak-3.
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 05-29-2000).]
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Ya there is lots to go around.
The P40 and the Hurricane will creat lots of opertunities to get other counties colours in.
The harvard is a cool choice. We used alot of them training the free worlds pilots. And it was made in canada. But you gota throw in its stable mate.
The Canadair Sabre MkVI.
Fair is fair...
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Naa let's go with the Avro Arrow.
Another good one for a bunch of countries is the A-20.
And I've always wanted to fly a well-modeled P-63. With water injection that thing was a badass.
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Dune came through with a nice find: http://www.mat.ufrgs.br/~rudnei/FAB/eng/guerra.html (http://www.mat.ufrgs.br/~rudnei/FAB/eng/guerra.html)
(http://www.mat.ufrgs.br/~rudnei/FAB/imagens/puaorig.gif)
The war cry "Senta a Pua!" was a suggestion from Ten.-Av. Rui who had heard it several times from Cap.-Av. Firmino Alves de Araujo while serving at Salvador Air Base; it was used by the latter on his subordinates, inviting them to do their tasks at once and quickly. It became the Brazilian equivalent of the British Tally-Ho and the French "A la Chasse!".
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 05-29-2000).]
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Funked, noble sentiment, but let's face facts, the U.S. market pays the bills so let's get that Jug in 56th FG livery.. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Then again, beggars can't be choosers, any Jug will do.
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2nd Lt. Crapgame
62nd F.S.
56th F.G. "Zemke's Wolfpack"
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I look at it this way - there are a whole lot more WB pilots in Brazilian squads than there are WB pilots in P-47 squads. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Make the D in Brazilian markings, do the M in 56th markings. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Actually, I do want to do a 47 in Brazilian markings.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
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This matter is already making much noise at the brazilian forum of AH/WB pilots. Pyro's last message only adds heat to the matter (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))
For me it's simple: Make a Brazilian Jug. The next day I ( and many friends, I believe) will be giving our hard-earned money to HTC)
Antonio Marcos Pantoja de Azevedo- ICQ1258450
Zeve - Jambock D1 - Green Flight Leader
Jambock - first brazilian Squadron in Warbirds
Senta a Pua!
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Very cool!
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Hi guys,
I knew pyro would play a smart game!! the brazilian market is huge and since 1996 I do a propaganda job for wb. Now I will do it for the Aces High for sure if they put that Jug in brazilian Colors.
I just reactivated my account in AH and I'll subscribe it for sure. Pyro may remember what happened with wb after the Jambock got in real hard (dec 1996). We had a great brazilian crowd getting in there. I hope I can do the same for Aces High.
SALUTE!
-sydy-
Sydney Rodrigues
Jambock!
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Crapgame, there are so many variants to do of the jug that we can afford to have a diversity of markings. 56th FG won't be passed over. But the Brazilian P-47s were pretty sharp looking planes too.
Heya Sydy, spread the word down there to get us a good Brazilian player base and we'll put in a P-47D-25 in FAB markings for sure.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
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These guys flew alongside the USAAF 350th FG in Italy!!! Last year at the AW Con the guest speaker was Jack Ogilvie who was a Jug pilot in the "DevilHawks" squadron. He flew with Earl 'Dutch' Miller, who is a legend in that community. These two are a couple of real heroes of mine. They've mentioned many times of flying with the Brazilian pilots and always had good things to say about them.
Let me see if I can help this along!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://www.mat.ufrgs.br/~rudnei/FAB/imagens/perfis/p-47/p-47nero.gif)
P-47D-30 '1', piloted by Ten.-Cel.-Av. Nero Moura, Commanding Officer 1º GAVCA.
(http://www.mat.ufrgs.br/~rudnei/FAB/imagens/p-47pint.jpg)
There' alot more at the website Funked listed.
-Westy
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 06-03-2000).]
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Hi Pyro,
I know a lot of Brazilians who are tracking AH since the begin and, for sure, a P-47D-25 with the Brazilian scheme will play a big role in attracting them to the game.
Here another choice (and a beautiful one)
(http://www.najack.com.br/1BFS/images/p47d25transp.jpg)
Personally I keep a close eye at the news, have a subscription and keep always the later version of AH, but me and my squadmates from the 1st Brazilian Fighter Squadron - 350th FG are still waiting for dedicated historical arenas and more frequent special events to start flying. From the latest news I have read I can figure it won't take a long time to us to make our debut here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Salute
Rover
1st BSF - 350th FG (http://www.najack.com.br/1BFS)
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Pyro,
I'm leaving home for a week otw Vancouver. When I come back I'll start to make some contacts.
Btw, did you guys know that the Brazilian Squadron was one of the two that got the Presidential Unit Citation by the President of the United States? The other one is a RAF squadron.
I'll travel now but some other brazilian can post here the statistics about the brazilian performance in the Po Valley, North of Italy. We were 5% of the total fighter bomb strengh in there and we got 85% of targets... Pls someone after me put the numbers in here so I won't lie too much! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
sydy
Sydney Rodrigues
JAMBOCK!
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Well, here go the stats...
The 1ºGAVCA flew a total of 445 missions, 2,550 individual sorties and 5,465 combat flight hours, from 11 November 1944 to 4 May 1945.
The XXII Tactical Air Command acknowledged the efficiency of the Group by noting that, between 6 to 29 April 1945, it flew only 5% of the total of missions carried out by all squadrons under its control, but destroyed:
85% of the ammunition depots,
36% of the fuel depots,
28% of the bridges (19% damaged),
15% of motor vehicles (13% damaged) and
10% of horse-drawn vehicles (10% damaged).
The 1oGavCa was awarded with the USA President Unit Citation (Air Force). Apart USAF Squadrons, only two RAAF Squadrons received the citation.
Antonio Marcos Pantoja de Azevedo- ICQ1258450
Zeve - Jambock D1 - Green Flight Leader
Jambock - first brazilian Squadron in Warbirds
Senta a Pua!
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I'm a p47 lover. I guess we all have our 'fetish' aircraft. I just like the huge radial with the big prop and the full view canopy. Anyway, as far as the camo is concerned, I'm crazy about Gabreski, Francis "Gabby" camo. it's not very representative of 'usual P47-D camos' but it looks great. I know it was posted already but here is an another painting show it just before Gabby prop-striked on his last mission.
(http://home.CFL.rr.com/rauns/long01.jpg)
Talking about camo I also like Andersen's "Old Crow" the P51-B.
(http://home.CFL.rr.com/rauns/ander.jpg)
And finaly Kobayashi's Tony, not that I like the plane but the camo is nice to me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://home.CFL.rr.com/rauns/4KOBAYSI.jpg)
Sorry to bother you with this, just wanted to give my oppinion.
Cheers to all P47-D lovers, salute to the others.
[This message has been edited by SFRT - Frenchy (edited 06-04-2000).]
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No I don't want Frenchy to have 8 guns, he is deadly enough with 4. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Funked, that was the nicest thing someone ever said about me, thank you, appreciated.
Hummm, what are you doing for the next 20 years? May I marry you? ... D'OH!
Don't worry for the P47, I hate pure B&Z, it's borring, so i will try to turn it sooner or later and you will blow me up out of the sky, me and my huge radial.
Salute to my Friend and a great pilot!