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Title: ISP Address
Post by: 1Cane on March 26, 2024, 09:06:46 AM
Can a player access your ISP Address while you're in game? A player has made threats about the dark web, and I would like to know if he can get web address from game or BB.
 I can handle in game disputes but a threat of meeting face to face or dark web antics is not acceptable.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: GasTeddy on March 26, 2024, 10:46:23 AM
Nobody can track your location via IP address. Like mine, when checked, shows location from 60 to 300 miles from spot where I am. Threatening to creep in using it is ages old pitiful internet warriors way to try to look scary and dangerous. Those using it are (at least mentally) infantile. You can easily check yours for example here. (https://whatismyipaddress.com/)

I have managed to meet face to face some heroes, who have been threatening to beat or even kill me. So far no success for them.     :D
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 26, 2024, 10:55:11 AM
Wow, that is pretty sad when a player has to drop to that level. One would first question their humanity, then their sense of reality (sanity).

While you and I may not agree on everything, and I'm sure you know I'm right and your wrong on those disagreements  :devil, this is a game not life. Hang in there buddy, this individual will have his day.  :salute
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: 1Cane on March 26, 2024, 11:25:42 AM
Years ago, my wife and I got a restraining order against a neighbor for harassing our kids. When we were in court the lawyer told us "This only works if you are dealing with a rational person" I am concerned I am not dealing with a rational person now.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: GasTeddy on March 26, 2024, 12:47:43 PM
Wow, that is pretty sad when a player has to drop to that level. One would first question their humanity, then their sense of reality (sanity).

While you and I may not agree on everything, and I'm sure you know I'm right and your wrong on those disagreements  :devil, this is a game not life. Hang in there buddy, this individual will have his day.  :salute

For some individuals, the game seems to be the only form of life. Maybe aging together with dropping testo and dying libido creates hostility and kills reasoning.


Years ago, my wife and I got a restraining order against a neighbor for harassing our kids. When we were in court the lawyer told us "This only works if you are dealing with a rational person" I am concerned I am not dealing with a rational person now.

You certainly aren't dealing with a person who has every gear and sprocket in correct place between ears.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Busher on March 26, 2024, 04:02:02 PM
Can a player access your ISP Address while you're in game? A player has made threats about the dark web, and I would like to know if he can get web address from game or BB.
 I can handle in game disputes but a threat of meeting face to face or dark web antics is not acceptable.

If you're genuinely concerned about a dangerous individual, you may want to send some form of report to the FBI. I suspect they have wonderous tools to track this type of person.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: hazmatt on March 26, 2024, 04:57:59 PM
I would only be concerned if you emailed them, depending on where you emailed from a lot of personal info can be gleaned from the email headers and that and some nmap could end up with more info then you would want out there.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Vulcan on March 26, 2024, 06:29:12 PM
No. At most he could track down your ISP. Beyond that he is lost. Most consumer grade connections use dynamic IP addresses, that is they change from time to time, and some even use CGNAT - where an IP address as shared among multiple users.

Where to be concerned is any info that may lead them back to social media accounts, e.g. anything you might post among squadies. Once you get someones social media profile then things start to open up.

Also the references to the dark web shows the person is likely a moron.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Dadtallica on March 26, 2024, 07:47:26 PM

Also the references to the dark web shows the person is likely a moron.

Seems about right…
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: hazmatt on March 27, 2024, 01:54:06 AM
I have in the past starting with an IP from an email header, gathered other information and geolocated it to a specific location.
There's a bunch of tools out there:
https://w3c.github.io/geolocation-api
https://www.iplocation.net/myip
https://support.google.com/websearch/workflow/9308722?visit_id=638470961001929147-3633957957&rd=1
https://www.maxmind.com/en/geoip-location-correction

With my old internet provider, if I opened google.com/maps on my computer which was wired directly to a router with SPI firewall, that was wired directly to a modem (no GPS or WIFI) it would show the exact location on google maps or any tool used to determine location. This wasn't something on my computer as I don't use windows, I dump all my cookies on browser exit and other more paranoid stuff.  My new provider uses CGNAT  and shows a location 100 miles away and that is without using a VPN.

Don't believe that somebody with some skills cannot track down your location even without an IP. There's lots of databases out there scooping up all kinds of data. I'd put money on Steve Rambam or Kevin Mitnick tracking you down within a week if they were so inclined. I have had the chance to see them demonstrate their work. I doubt this person is either :)

I agree. dark web comments are usually maroons.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Eagler on March 27, 2024, 08:24:24 AM
Well we can see you are from Kalifornia from just clicking on your name  :aok

So that narrows it down lol

Eagler
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Animl-AW on March 27, 2024, 09:06:35 AM
Neither the game nor the bbs exposes IP, only HT can see that.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: GasTeddy on March 27, 2024, 09:13:10 AM
Well we can see you are from Kalifornia from just clicking on your name  :aok

So that narrows it down lol

Eagler

Dang, now it gets dangerous. Mighty Avenger just goes to California and beats everyone having pc and internet connection. Time to start evacuations!     :uhoh


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Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Lazerr on March 27, 2024, 10:40:41 AM
There is a guy on rooks that seems to know a bunch of this stuff.  Next time your over there drop him a line.  His callsign is 99capera.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: capera on March 27, 2024, 11:51:12 AM
This is comical. I made one comment on 200 about......"Have you ever heard about the Dark Web"?  .....because a bunch of trolls were puffin up their chests on 200 and the question was more to wake them up that there are ways to be identified if you choose to be a malicious avacado on 200.

Now look at all the trolls being all nervous that there is an entity out there....that can do that job. I never once said I was going to access or use it. I mearly asked IF they ever heard of it. Did i tell these people attacking me on 200 that I would love to have them stand in front of me, and say the rotten things they said.....hell YES. Still stand behind that., but common folks..are you really going to believe that I would do something like that? I may not back down from aholes on 200 and say that I would LOVE for them to say that to my face....but it is THEM attacking me and this is my response to being attacked.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 27, 2024, 01:54:49 PM
You guys need to use the SQUELCH function more. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: hazmatt on March 27, 2024, 02:27:00 PM
Flagpole at recess!
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Lazerr on March 27, 2024, 02:41:04 PM
This is comical. I made one comment on 200 about......"Have you ever heard about the Dark Web"?  .....because a bunch of trolls were puffin up their chests on 200 and the question was more to wake them up that there are ways to be identified if you choose to be a malicious avacado on 200.

Now look at all the trolls being all nervous that there is an entity out there....that can do that job. I never once said I was going to access or use it. I mearly asked IF they ever heard of it. Did i tell these people attacking me on 200 that I would love to have them stand in front of me, and say the rotten things they said.....hell YES. Still stand behind that., but common folks..are you really going to believe that I would do something like that? I may not back down from aholes on 200 and say that I would LOVE for them to say that to my face....but it is THEM attacking me and this is my response to being attacked.

And you think I'm a troll....

Seems like you leave a certain impression on quite a few people.  I suppose that's our fault and not yours right? 
Your empty threats don't mean a thing.. just further defines who you are and reassures people of what they think of you.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: capera on March 27, 2024, 02:51:21 PM
And you think I'm a troll....

Seems like you leave a certain impression on quite a few people.  I suppose that's our fault and not yours right? 
Your empty threats don't mean a thing.. just further defines who you are and reassures people of what they think of you.

The only players in AH that have issue with me.....are the ones that thrive on causing conflict on ch200. Everyday I have to fend off personal attacks. Like you.....always "at" me in game because of what I do in the sim. You like to dogfight and I like to hit the strats. What do you do in game.....you are always "at" me about my choice of gameplay. You know I am right.

So before you come here judging me......look at your own actions. This is supposed to be a fun sim, but there are a few in game that take it to personal levels, and that is completely unsat.


Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Vulcan on March 27, 2024, 05:18:33 PM
This is comical. I made one comment on 200 about......"Have you ever heard about the Dark Web"?  .....because a bunch of trolls were puffin up their chests on 200 and the question was more to wake them up that there are ways to be identified if you choose to be a malicious avacado on 200.

What exactly has the dark web got to do with identifying people in Aces High? Feel free to give me the technical details, as part of my job is monitoring dark web activity related to my workplace and people who work there.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Lazerr on March 27, 2024, 06:16:26 PM
The only players in AH that have issue with me.....are the ones that thrive on causing conflict on ch200. Everyday I have to fend off personal attacks. Like you.....always "at" me in game because of what I do in the sim. You like to dogfight and I like to hit the strats. What do you do in game.....you are always "at" me about my choice of gameplay. You know I am right.

So before you come here judging me......look at your own actions. This is supposed to be a fun sim, but there are a few in game that take it to personal levels, and that is completely unsat.

Who else do you see me going after?

Dumbchits like you that threaten people over the internet have 0 credibility here or in real life.

You hide in the game, you hide behind the dark web threat or whatever its called.

Who is the troll again?  This started with you being a dink on 200.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: capera on March 27, 2024, 07:15:21 PM
Who else do you see me going after?

Dumbchits like you that threaten people over the internet have 0 credibility here or in real life.

You hide in the game, you hide behind the dark web threat or whatever its called.

Who is the troll again?  This started with you being a dink on 200.

Last time I looked online, it is always you initiating with me. I never started anything with you until you started your arrogant BS towards me and I told you off. Never knew you before 2 weeks ago and I personally don't care to know you based on what I see in game and here. I see you on ch200 berating other players that may not have your skill set. I always say to myself....such a waste of a good stick, being a dk like that. So....ya pal...I see you doing that a a lot and how ironic.....that is exactly how we met 2 or 3 weeks ago. You deciding that what I do in the sim is some lame act.

You need to grow up. Make all the accusations you want about me. I know the context in which I mentioned the dark web. Would say what I said again, when witnessing someone being a bully or saying something inappropriate. Nothing wrong with reminding people they are not 100% anonymous when deciding to say the rotten things they say.

I made my point. Nothing more to say to you.

Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Lazerr on March 27, 2024, 08:07:16 PM
Last time I looked online, it is always you initiating with me. I never started anything with you until you started your arrogant BS towards me and I told you off. Never knew you before 2 weeks ago and I personally don't care to know you based on what I see in game and here. I see you on ch200 berating other players that may not have your skill set. I always say to myself....such a waste of a good stick, being a dk like that. So....ya pal...I see you doing that a a lot and how ironic.....that is exactly how we met 2 or 3 weeks ago. You deciding that what I do in the sim is some lame act.

You need to grow up. Make all the accusations you want about me. I know the context in which I mentioned the dark web. Would say what I said again, when witnessing someone being a bully or saying something inappropriate. Nothing wrong with reminding people they are not 100% anonymous when deciding to say the rotten things they say.

I made my point. Nothing more to say to you.

I've been here 20 + years and we just met hey?

You just start tuning to 200 to realize how abrasive I am?  I know that's not true, I'm simply returning fire on how I've seen you dump on others.

Not to mention your constant promotion of "the only enemy is knights" and... knight aaa is down to 75% after you hide at 25k and try to promote some garbage 2 vs 1 gameplay to validate your weaktit milk run.


Still having issues connecting the dots?
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Shamus on March 28, 2024, 04:07:37 AM
Boy this is weird, I remember Cap and Lazerr as two of the nicer guys in AH.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: hazmatt on March 28, 2024, 04:23:01 AM
Grumpy old men?
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 28, 2024, 08:24:54 AM
Cap & Lazer, there is an ignore function here on the BBS. In game you have the squelch function available.

Personally, I get along with both you. Not to say you don't get my dandruff up on occasion. We all pay our $15.00 a month to play the game the way we want to, with in the parameters Hitech has established. Enjoy it and be tolerant of how others play.  :salute
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: oTRALFZo on March 28, 2024, 04:27:31 PM
The only players in AH that have issue with me.....are the ones that thrive on causing conflict on ch200. Everyday I have to fend off personal attacks. Like you.....always "at" me in game because of what I do in the sim. You like to dogfight and I like to hit the strats. What do you do in game.....you are always "at" me about my choice of gameplay. You know I am right.

So before you come here judging me......look at your own actions. This is supposed to be a fun sim, but there are a few in game that take it to personal levels, and that is completely unsat.

Funny when you were on your 40k milk runs and saw my 262 at 10k. I had no idea how high you were and when I peeled off to land, you went off on 200.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: GasTeddy on March 29, 2024, 05:03:00 PM
Just staying away from 200 is also legitime option.
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: 1ijac on April 01, 2024, 02:40:11 AM
Boy this is weird, I remember Cap and Lazerr as two of the nicer guys in AH.

Shamus!   Good to see you buddy.  <S>

Cheers,  One-eye   :)
Title: Re: ISP Address
Post by: Shamus on April 01, 2024, 07:12:34 AM
 Good to see you as well OneEye :salute