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Title: New Planes
Post by: ONTOS on June 30, 2015, 01:54:48 PM
Just wondering if there are any new planes in the making ?
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: The Fugitive on June 30, 2015, 02:03:39 PM
LOL!  Considering the amount of work they are doing I would highly doubt we will get any new planes or vehicles.

If they do however, they would post a sneak peek like they have with the towns and carrier upgrades.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Kazaa on June 30, 2015, 02:20:15 PM
Need to worry less about adding new planes and bring the old ones up to standard.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Canspec on June 30, 2015, 07:39:08 PM
I have it on good authority that they will be adding the Gloster Meteor really soon...... :old:
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: lyric1 on June 30, 2015, 07:50:25 PM
I have it on good authority that they will be adding the Gloster Meteor really soon...... :old:

Yes two weeks from now.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: jtdragon on June 30, 2015, 09:06:31 PM
always TWO WEEKS (lol)
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: MrKrabs on June 30, 2015, 09:39:24 PM
Just wondering if there are any new planes in the making ?

Actually the TBM update is there... 8 rockets too
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 30, 2015, 10:03:58 PM
Need to worry less about adding new planes and bring the old ones up to standard.

+1 one step at a time
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: JOACH1M on June 30, 2015, 10:09:15 PM
Need to worry less about adding new planes and bring the old ones up to standard.
3 more years maybe?  :rofl
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Lazerr on June 30, 2015, 10:28:46 PM
Adding new planes to an arena full of unperked latewar birds is a waste of time... unless they are more latewar monsters.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Karnak on June 30, 2015, 10:49:55 PM
Adding new planes to an arena full of unperked latewar birds is a waste of time... unless they are more latewar monsters.
Not many of those left to add, but there are a lot of options for mid-war level birds that would be reasonably competitive.

Things that might see some use in the LWMA:

A-26 Invader
B7A2 'Grace'
Do217
G.55
H8K2 'Emily'
He177A-5
J2M3 or J2M5 Raiden 'Jack'
Ju88G (Ju88A-4 needs to be updated anyways)
Ju188A-1
Ki-44-II
Ki-100
Ki-102
Meteor Mk III
P1Y1 Ginga 'Frances'
Re.2005
SBC2-C Helldiver

All of these would be usable in the LWMA and all saw at least some combat.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Schwalbee on July 01, 2015, 12:00:23 AM
Need to worry less about adding new planes and bring the old ones up to standard.
+1 Agree with tat100%. We have a lot of places to choose from. Update done if the older cockpits and make the cockpits look better across the board and I'll be a happy camper

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Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: ONTOS on July 01, 2015, 09:36:18 AM
Then the Wish List where people ask for new planes is a waste of time. Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: The Fugitive on July 01, 2015, 10:14:33 AM
Then the Wish List where people ask for new planes is a waste of time. Just my thoughts.

If your wishing to have a new plane 2 weeks after you post a wish for it, yes, it is a waste of your time. However I'm sure HTC keeps an eye on the wish post and adds the ones they like to the list of things they would, some day, like to add to the game.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Interceptor on July 01, 2015, 01:22:55 PM
Gloster Meteor only fought against V2s... I thought HTC only allowed planes who fought against other enemy (manned ofc) planes... :headscratch:

I have it on good authority that they will be adding the Gloster Meteor really soon...... :old:
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: vHACKv on July 01, 2015, 01:32:16 PM
Just wondering if there are any new planes in the making ?

Isn't there a forum for this?
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Karnak on July 01, 2015, 01:58:22 PM
Gloster Meteor only fought against V2s... I thought HTC only allowed planes who fought against other enemy (manned ofc) planes... :headscratch:
Mk III did ground attacks on the continent.

One almost got a Storch in the air, but the Storch managed to get on the ground and the crew out before the jet came back.

Further, it was on an HTC poll.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Drane on July 01, 2015, 02:12:23 PM
Mk III did ground attacks on the continent.

One almost got a Storch in the air, but the Storch managed to get on the ground and the crew out before the jet came back.

Further, it was on an HTC poll.

The V2 was a ballistic missile that couldn't be shot down at the time.  :devil

If we get the Meteor, then we need V1 buzz bombs to shoot down.  :rock
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: pipz on July 01, 2015, 03:47:12 PM
KI-100
Spitfire V LF

Nuff said!  :old:
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: bustr on July 01, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
Any time Hitech adds a new plane or has an AH1 model updated, it buys him about 1 week of peace and quiet. If you change (1 model new\updated) to (x models new\updated), it still only gives him 1 week of peace and quiet.

AH3 might get him a month while you guys find un thought of ways to break it and finesse it against each other. At the end of that month, it won't have mattered that the AH1 models have all been updated along with what ever new models get rolled out with it.

After more than a decade with this game, I am starting to believe gnats have longer attention spans than human gamers seeking their gamey fix.

Gamers Creed: What have you done for me 30 seconds ago.......
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Kazaa on July 01, 2015, 06:14:37 PM
Oh buster with the over dramatic posts.

Games which use the subscription monetary model have always been seen as an investment. When people feel like their investment isn't worth the return they then stop putting up the capital. As the saying goes: Live by the sword, die by the sword.

It's true you can give the customer everything they want and soon enough they'll wants something else. But as stated above. That's the business HTC is in.

I don't know if you've ever played a game other than Aces High. But to be blunt, Aces High's development has always seemed to be at a leisurely pace in respect to other titles which I've invested in, even by independent development standard (this is just my observation and not to be critical).Therefore customers get frustrated and the already loud voices only get louder. Though it could be worse, there could be no voices left to make noise.

I've heard great things about Aces High 3 and I cannot wait to see all of HTC's hard work pay-off.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: bustr on July 01, 2015, 06:27:48 PM
Yours rather more over powers my salient time based observation about this game.

Hitech can only buy a hero's reward from players such as yourself for maybe a week at a time. Then he is a looser goat until he buy's your goodwill for another week with another toy. The more toys used to buy good will, the less charitable the players. I've seen this in most games because of the gamers creed to feed the fix.

Hitech seems to not feel the need to be held hostage by it. You obviously are.   
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 01, 2015, 06:41:29 PM
Games which use the subscription monetary model have always been seen as an investment. When people feel like their investment isn't worth the return they then stop putting up the capital. As the saying goes: Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Yep, you're spot on.

Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: save on July 01, 2015, 06:42:12 PM
Fw190A9 with the TS engine, some faster than the A8, more armour to protect oil cooler, and built in significant numbers.
Gloster Gladiator and Cr42.
La-7 with 2 guns only and a 1-perked 3-gun version.

Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: 100Coogn on July 01, 2015, 07:05:12 PM
Oh buster with the over dramatic posts.

Games which use the subscription monetary model have always been seen as an investment. When people feel like their investment isn't worth the return they then stop putting up the capital. As the saying goes: Live by the sword, die by the sword.

It's true you can give the customer everything they want and soon enough they'll wants something else.

I don't know if you've ever played a game other than Aces High. But to be blunt, Aces High's development has always seemed to be at a leisurely pace in respect to other titles which I've invested in, even by independent development standard. Therefor customers get frustrated and the already loud voices only get louder.

I've heard great things about Aces High 3 and I cannot wait to see all of HTC's hard work pay-off.

Well said.   :aok

Coogan
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: icepac on July 01, 2015, 07:23:05 PM
I'd prefer the J2M2 over the J2M3
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Kazaa on July 01, 2015, 07:41:23 PM
bustr,

I'm pretty sure I've gone longer than a week without asking HTC for something, ok maybe no more than two weeks... Get it ;)

On a serious note. You come across as ignorant by painting me with the same brush as those who can only be satisfied week by week. For the best part of five years I was content learning the art of  aerial combat via the Aces High service. Sure I foolishly posted the odd plane suggestion in the wishlist forum every time my immature excitement of wanting to experience something new got the better of me, but who hasn't? Personally my main reason for unsubscribing from Aces High was due to dwindling  player base having an effect on my personal game play. Would I still be subscribed to Aces High if the numbers were still at their peak? Who knows.

Let's me be frank. HiTech is a business man. He's selling a product to feed his family, heat his home, maybe even enjoy the finer things in life. If his product begins to become stale then it's his prerogative to make it once again appeal to his chosen target audience. People like you and I, who've put many years into one game are very, very rare. I'm sure HiTech knows roughly the duration of his average customer's stay. Let me ask you this: Would you still subscribed to Aces High if it was still using the very first release candidate? If I was going to hazard a guess I would probably say not.

As it happens, I just read an article which stated the game under the title of Star Citizen has surpassed $84 million in funding. So I find you're analogy about: "more toys used to buy good will, the less charitable the players." falls absolutely, positively, comprehensively flat on its face.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: TwinBoom on July 01, 2015, 07:55:40 PM
D.520!!!
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Karnak on July 01, 2015, 11:36:27 PM
I'd prefer the J2M2 over the J2M3
Why so?  J2M5 would be, from a performance standpoint, the better choice, but so few were made.  The largest production run was the J2M3 and J2M3a (J2M3 has two Type 99 Model II cannons, type on the A6M5 and N1K2-J, and two Type 99 Model 1 cannons, the type on the A6M2, A6M3 and G4M1 while the J2M3a has four Type 99 Model II cannons) which could be combined by simply having armament options.

What do you see as the advantage of doing the J2M2?
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: icepac on July 04, 2015, 09:51:39 AM
I said nothing of advantage.

I've been flying both for over 10 years.

Do we really need another 4x cannon monster late war plane with crazy power to weight ratio in the arena?

That said, I would love to see the KI44.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Karnak on July 04, 2015, 11:02:17 AM
I said nothing of advantage.

I've been flying both for over 10 years.

Do we really need another 4x cannon monster late war plane with crazy power to weight ratio in the arena?

That said, I would love to see the KI44.
Ah.

Well, from a representative standpoint it should clearly be the J2M3 as it by far had the highest production total.

Having the J2M2 just to avoid having a four cannon aircraft that was a four cannon aircraft is, bluntly, silly.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 04, 2015, 11:20:20 AM
D.520!!!

Hitech said he would not waste time modeling that insignificant French bug smasher.  :old:
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: FBKampfer on July 04, 2015, 01:05:40 PM
Fa 223
Fw 189
Pe 8
IAR 80
Ki 44
190A3
109G10
109G-14/As
Spit XII
Typhoon Ia
All would be at least competitive in the MA.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: pipz on July 04, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
Seafire III.

Please.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Zimme83 on July 04, 2015, 07:44:54 PM
Piper J-3 w bazookas...
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Karnak on July 04, 2015, 07:48:44 PM
Fa 223
Fw 189
Pe 8
IAR 80
Ki 44
190A3
109G10
109G-14/As
Spit XII
Typhoon Ia
All would be at least competitive in the MA.
Typhoon Ia would certainly not be competitive.  Also was a complete non-factor in the war, less even than the Ta152.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: 38ruk on July 04, 2015, 08:15:13 PM
P-61
F6F-5N  20mm's anyone?
Maybe a night arena lol
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: JVboob on July 04, 2015, 11:47:54 PM
Piper J-3 w bazookas...

a storch with AT weapons  :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

B25 J
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: PanosGR on July 05, 2015, 09:28:29 AM
FW-190D-13

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x39/PanosGR/FockeWulfFw190D-13Dora-01_zpshwxnavze.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/PanosGR/media/FockeWulfFw190D-13Dora-01_zpshwxnavze.jpg.html)

Hs-129

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x39/PanosGR/hs-129_zpsxvyyoajg.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/PanosGR/media/hs-129_zpsxvyyoajg.jpg.html)

He-162

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x39/PanosGR/HE162_zpsac264996.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/PanosGR/media/HE162_zpsac264996.jpg.html)

Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 05, 2015, 12:44:43 PM
Piper J-3 w bazookas...

 :D

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11218057_1617975325148226_5500317803568578832_n.jpg?oh=113fb4f40657c4366cd633cc827eba7b&oe=562BC7B1)
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: FBKampfer on July 05, 2015, 02:42:44 PM
Typhoon Ia would certainly not be competitive.  Also was a complete non-factor in the war, less even than the Ta152.

Competitive in the same sense that the 109G-6, or the D11, or the Mossie can be competitive. They need a chance, but given a chance, they can be dangerous. The primary only weakness would be the guns.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Karnak on July 05, 2015, 02:49:47 PM
Competitive in the same sense that the 109G-6, or the D11, or the Mossie can be competitive. They need a chance, but given a chance, they can be dangerous. The primary only weakness would be the guns.
Not remotely as competitive as those. Last I checked all of those maintain positive kill/death ratios, something I highly doubt the Tiffie Ia would do. Anything that maintains a positive kill/death ratio is either good or favored by a small group of elites who distort its numbers.  .303s require you to stick to your target, not something the Tiffie is good for.  All three of the aircraft you mentioned have good to great firepower, and in the case of the Bf109 good handling as well.  Firepower matters.  I remember more than a decade ago Citibria, IIRC, trying to use each fighter then in inventory and maintain a 5+kill/death ratio with it.  The only one he could not do so in, and it wasn't even close, was the C.202 as it just didn't have enough firepower.  This was before the Spit I and Hurri I were added.

I am not saying it wouldn't get kills. I've bagged two single engined fighters and one twin engined fighter just using the four .303s on the Mossie, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it.  Nothing using just .303s is competitive.

The other problem with the Typhoon Mk Ia is that it wasn't used because the Hispanos didn't fail.  It was merely planned as a backup in case the Hispano cannons proved to be non-viable air-to-air weapons.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Grin on July 06, 2015, 08:09:38 AM
I'm still waiting for a jeep with a recoilless rifle.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Mister Fork on July 06, 2015, 11:25:25 AM
IL-2 with PTAB anti-tank bombs would be nicer...

Based on my observations of the last 16 years of everyone beeeoching missing plane sets...we need:

Britain
a) Beaufighter
b) Vickers Wellington
c) Avro Anson

Japan
Ki-27
Ki-46
Ki-45

Germany
Do-17(for SEA/AvA)
Do-217
He-219
Ju-52 (for SEA/AvA)

Italy
CR.42
G.50/55
Re.2000-2005

USA
Nutten. And shaaadup about it already...it's not like you have 5 variants of the Jug, or 5 of the Corsair. And stop asking for the P-61. Just take up a light B-26.

The list is also made from high production numbers and actual combat effectiveness. Meaning it's no Lochness monster...pilots saw it, flew it, fought in it for longer than a month.

And of course, player controllable Destroyers and Submarines would just top it right off. :x
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Slade on July 06, 2015, 11:30:17 AM
Quote
IAR 80

+1
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: BuckShot on July 06, 2015, 01:14:13 PM
Westland Whirlwind
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: 38ruk on July 06, 2015, 01:37:08 PM


Britain
a) Beaufighter

And stop asking for the P-61. Just take up a light B-26.


Well I guess a light B26 would do for the Beaufighter as well
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: glzsqd on July 06, 2015, 01:38:36 PM
p63!!!
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Karnak on July 06, 2015, 02:24:40 PM
Well I guess a light B26 would do for the Beaufighter as well
The Beaufighter was just a teeny tiny bit* more significant to WWII than the P-61 was.


*I lied, it was incalculably more significant than the P-61.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: 38ruk on July 06, 2015, 03:17:16 PM
The Beaufighter was just a teeny tiny bit* more significant to WWII than the P-61 was.


*I lied, it was incalculably more significant than the P-61.

Im not arguing historical significance , im responding to the performance comparison made.  To be honest ,I'm not arguing at all.
Most planes mentioned would be hanger queens after a month in all but special events arena's , P61 included.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Karnak on July 06, 2015, 03:37:06 PM
Im not arguing historical significance , im responding to the performance comparison made.  To be honest ,I'm not arguing at all.
Most planes mentioned would be hanger queens after a month in all but special events arena's , P61 included.
Everything I mentioned on that list I posted would see notable use in the LWMA.  I ought to have put the P-61 there as well, but it skipped my mind.  I am not advocating anything on that list, simply giving people who want something that would be usable in the MA an idea of what to read about so they can ask for something specific.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: 38ruk on July 06, 2015, 04:08:36 PM
Everything I mentioned on that list I posted would see notable use in the LWMA.  I ought to have put the P-61 there as well, but it skipped my mind.  I am not advocating anything on that list, simply giving people who want something that would be usable in the MA an idea of what to read about so they can ask for something specific.
Oh... not your list karnak .  I was looking at the guys list that gave me crap for mentioning the P61 . 
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Guppy35 on July 06, 2015, 04:32:57 PM
The Beaufighter would most definitely not be a hanger queen.   My 38G would spend a lot more time in the hanger though as I'd be in a Beau :)
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Interceptor on July 06, 2015, 07:13:00 PM
Totally agree : this plane, in its own Tier, would be great to fly in a df for sure !  :aok

D.520!!!
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: icepac on July 06, 2015, 08:09:49 PM
Beaufighter would be awesome and it would affect more than one arena.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: FBKampfer on July 06, 2015, 09:01:47 PM
Oh... not your list karnak .  I was looking at the guys list that gave me crap for mentioning the P61 .

Do-217 might be the most capable non- perked Luftwaffe bomber, depending on if an He-177 would be perked. Imagine a Tu-2 with a B-17's bomb load all internally.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: FTJR on July 06, 2015, 10:04:29 PM
IL-2 with PTAB anti-tank bombs would be nicer...

Based on my observations of the last 16 years of everyone beeeoching missing plane sets...we need:

Britain
a) Beaufighter
b) Vickers Wellington
c) Avro Anson


Anson? Unless I am much mistaken it was pressed into service as a anti submarine machine but that as close as it got.

Hudson/ Ventura would be more useful.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Karnak on July 07, 2015, 03:49:57 AM
Do-217 might be the most capable non- perked Luftwaffe bomber, depending on if an He-177 would be perked. Imagine a Tu-2 with a B-17's bomb load all internally.
Yup, that is why I put it on my list on the first page along with the He177A-5 and Ju188A-1.  Personally I think the Ju188 would prove more survivable than the Do217, but they both clearly would see use.  The only plane that I forgot, as far as I can tell, is the P-61.  Nobody has mentioned anything else that is LWMA viable that isn't on my first page list.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Lazerr on July 07, 2015, 10:34:22 AM
If we perk a few speed demons and cannon dweeb rides in the main populated MA.. a lot of these planes would see use,  and the fights would be like they were 10 years ago.  FUN.
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 07, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
I'm still waiting for a jeep with a recoilless rifle.

You're in for a long wait, jeeps with recoilless rifle weren't used in WW2, that didn't come until after the war and was used in Korea.  The closest thing a jeep came to having a recoilless rifle were the field mods used by a lot of recce units that would mount 1 or 2 bazookas with an armored shield on their jeep.  It wasn't to engage other armored vehicles, it was to engage machine gun emplacements or other hard points like roadblocks.

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/_sharon/abarmdjeep3dy6.jpg)
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: The Fugitive on July 07, 2015, 04:01:45 PM
If we perk a few speed demons and cannon dweeb rides in the main populated MA.. a lot of these planes would see use,  and the fights would be like they were 10 years ago.  FUN.


No, first you would have to find people who are willing to fight! Heck I'd be happy with people willing to fight in speed demon/cannon rides! :D
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Grin on July 07, 2015, 05:30:06 PM
You're in for a long wait, jeeps with recoilless rifle weren't used in WW2, that didn't come until after the war and was used in Korea.  The closest thing a jeep came to having a recoilless rifle were the field mods used by a lot of recce units that would mount 1 or 2 bazookas with an armored shield on their jeep.  It wasn't to engage other armored vehicles, it was to engage machine gun emplacements or other hard points like roadblocks.

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/_sharon/abarmdjeep3dy6.jpg)

Or, in other words, exactly what the 49th needs  ;)
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: JVboob on July 10, 2015, 01:15:18 AM
Lol grin i saw the jeep and though of all the fun we would have with it. 



B25  J


C sucks and H has no sight or drones we need the J
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: glzsqd on July 10, 2015, 06:24:09 AM
Lol grin i saw the jeep and though of all the fun we would have with it. 



B25  J


C sucks and H has no sight or drones we need the J

C is awesome, but I agree we need the B25J!
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: JVboob on July 11, 2015, 02:31:53 AM
C is decent If you have a true box of bombers or your in a group of 17s that can protect you
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Grin on July 11, 2015, 07:58:16 AM

No, first you would have to find people who are willing to fight! Heck I'd be happy with people willing to fight in speed demon/cannon rides! :D

As LaSalle found out Thursday night I believe it was, the 49th will fight when prompted to. He had 6 P40Fs turn into him in formation when he came at us. We lost ONE.  :rock
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: pipz on July 11, 2015, 08:19:35 AM
Spitfire II
Title: Re: New Planes
Post by: Phoenix3107 on July 11, 2015, 11:41:25 AM
WW1 planes...