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Title: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 05, 2010, 12:06:05 PM
He sure is doing a nice job killing butcher this tour.  :)
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: USRanger on September 05, 2010, 12:08:28 PM
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Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: DrBone1 on September 05, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
It has already been sent in Grizz  :lol
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: bj229r on September 05, 2010, 12:40:30 PM
Hmmm...92 kills attack/fighter, 86 of whom are the same seemingly unlucky fellow.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: bj229r on September 05, 2010, 12:41:25 PM
It has already been sent in Grizz  :lol
Damn...the Few even own all in 'reporting' :lol
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: DrBone1 on September 05, 2010, 12:50:28 PM
Damn...the Few even own all in 'reporting' :lol
reporting what i just happen to be in the same sector as he was killing him find another ankle plz  :rock :rock
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: bj229r on September 05, 2010, 12:56:24 PM
reporting what i just happen to be in the same sector as he was killing him find another ankle plz  :rock :rock
Dang, I THOUGHT that was funny...nobody gets my sense of humor
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Reaper90 on September 05, 2010, 01:18:01 PM
Yeh, he probably got reported by 6 or 7 of them at the same time! LOL
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: MickDono on September 05, 2010, 01:19:16 PM
Reaper sir, u r wrong  :x :x :x :x :x :x
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Killer91 on September 05, 2010, 01:29:01 PM
lol the lengths people will go to are pathetic...
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: perdue3 on September 05, 2010, 01:33:43 PM
No matter what the topic, thread, forum; some how it always ends with The Few's reputaion.

Don't you guys find this odd or even embarassing? That everyone has something to say about your egos or the way you fly?

I say The Few, I really mean DFC. Gonna try and leave MickyD out of this although I have seen him shooting at me in the horde  :)



perdweeb
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: fudgums on September 05, 2010, 01:41:38 PM
omg, the few and kN are like an old married couple.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: MickDono on September 05, 2010, 01:46:00 PM
omg, the few and kN are like an old married couple.


Hahaha so true


No matter what the topic, thread, forum; some how it always ends with The Few's reputaion.

Don't you guys find this odd or even embarassing? That everyone has something to say about your egos or the way you fly?

I say The Few, I really mean DFC. Gonna try and leave MickyD out of this although I have seen him shooting at me in the horde  :)



perdweeb


lol perdweeb i suck on my own :)


Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: curry1 on September 05, 2010, 01:49:01 PM
He sure is doing a nice job killing butcher this tour.  :)
:rofl
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: DrBone1 on September 05, 2010, 01:49:07 PM
Don't you guys find this odd or even embarassing? That everyone has something to say about your egos or the way you fly?
perdweeb
:rolleyes:  not in the least bit does it bother us why?because i only see the same ppl trash talking us we are well respected by many just because a few sour apples dont like us doesn't mean we are going to cry about it personally i like the attention i get from ppl like you i take it as a compliment   :salute :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: RealDeal on September 05, 2010, 07:05:18 PM
So why would anyone care to report what another player is doing? What does it matter?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: DrBone1 on September 05, 2010, 07:07:35 PM
So why would anyone care to report what another player is doing? What does it matter?
gotta keep the score tards happy  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: RealDeal on September 05, 2010, 07:16:07 PM
gotta keep the score tards happy  :rolleyes:

I guess thats where I was going. So many people who SAY they don't care about score and yet they will be the first to point out others using non-traditional methods (cheating) for improving their score. In my case I just dont care, cause it doesnt affect my play at all.

 :aok
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 05, 2010, 07:16:44 PM
gotta keep the score tards happy  :rolleyes:

Didn't you just say you reported him?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: DrBone1 on September 05, 2010, 07:20:28 PM
Didn't you just say you reported him?
nope i said that he had been reported the other day i didnt think i had to be specific about it many others seen this before your post i was only saying its true. I killed him in the process of killing butcher just the other day  did i report him? no not my duty  ;) do i have film of it? yes
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: redman555 on September 05, 2010, 07:21:27 PM
So why would anyone care to report what another player is doing? What does it matter?

So the real good players aren't beaten by someone running 2 accounts and just shooting them down over and over.

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: DrBone1 on September 05, 2010, 07:23:22 PM
In my case I just dont care, cause it doesnt affect my play at all.

 :aok
:salute :salute Real i am with ya on that
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 05, 2010, 07:25:08 PM
nope i said that he had been reported the other day i didnt think i had to be specific about it many others seen this before your post i was only saying its true. I killed him in the process of killing butcher just the other day  did i report him? no not my duty  ;) do i have film of it? yes

Oh, ok.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Bear76 on September 05, 2010, 07:26:26 PM



lol perdweeb i suck on my own :)




You must be very flexible.  :D
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: MickDono on September 05, 2010, 07:31:43 PM
You must be very flexible.  :D



hahahahahaha bravo sir   :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TonyJoey on September 06, 2010, 05:53:26 PM
Dang, I THOUGHT that was funny...nobody gets my sense of humor

Your sense of humor is now property of The Few.   :eek:





 :bolt:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Reaper90 on September 06, 2010, 06:19:05 PM
Yeh and there are 6 of them fighting over who's gonna kill his sense of humor first! LOL

 :neener: :neener: :neener:

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: mechanic on September 07, 2010, 07:56:38 AM
Yeh and there are 6 of them fighting over who's gonna kill his sense of humor first! LOL

 :neener: :neener: :neener:

 :bolt:

 :rofl  :t
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: MickDono on September 07, 2010, 08:11:13 AM
Yeh and there are 6 of them fighting over who's gonna kill his sense of humor first! LOL


 :lol
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Kazaa on September 07, 2010, 08:14:02 AM
No matter what the topic, thread, forum; some how it always ends with The Few's reputation.

Don't you guys find this odd or even embarrassing? That everyone has something to say about your egos or the way you fly?

I say The Few, I really mean DFC. Gonna try and leave MickyD out of this although I have seen him shooting at me in the horde  :)

perdweeb

I find it a coincidence that it's always the same select few who spazz their pants at the chance to hijack another thread and make it all about The Few's reputation.

I do indeed feel embarassed for them as they seem to get so worked up over a video game.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: xbrit on September 07, 2010, 08:16:56 AM
I guess thats where I was going. So many people who SAY they don't care about score and yet they will be the first to point out others using non-traditional methods (cheating) for improving their score. In my case I just dont care, cause it doesnt affect my play at all.

 :aok
So why comment?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: coola4me on September 07, 2010, 08:38:18 AM
Looks as if butcher made his first appearance last tour with shockingly similar stats HAHAHA!   Hmmm smells a little  :joystick:!
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: kilo2 on September 07, 2010, 09:12:28 AM
Yeh and there are 6 of them fighting over who's gonna kill his sense of humor first! LOL

 :neener: :neener: :neener:

 :bolt:
omg, the few and kN are like an old married couple.
:rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 07, 2010, 08:32:25 PM
Alpine13 vanished off the face of the cartoon world.   :noid
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: StokesAk on September 07, 2010, 08:36:17 PM
Alpine13 vanished off the face of the cartoon world.   :noid

yea but alpini is still killing a shade.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Lazerr on September 07, 2010, 08:47:59 PM
keeeel him
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 07, 2010, 09:01:44 PM
Alpine13 vanished off the face of the cartoon world.   :noid

He's still around, think someone caught him again the other day to which alpini13 replied that he didn't care because "everyone does it".  Maybe HTC just reset his fighter score?

ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: RealDeal on September 07, 2010, 09:06:11 PM
Nevermind
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: uptown on September 07, 2010, 09:11:33 PM
He's still around, think someone caught him again the other day to which alpini13 replied that he didn't care because "everyone does it".  Maybe HTC just reset his fighter score?

ack-ack
....or give him a special colored icon and let the players take care of his K/D  :t


I would rather enjoy an evening of Alpini fishing.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 07, 2010, 09:25:26 PM
....or give him a special colored icon and let the players take care of his K/D  :t


I would rather enjoy an evening of Alpini fishing.

I'd grow bored after the 20th time I shot him down in 10 minutes and that would be with him trying to fight back.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 07, 2010, 10:25:08 PM
What I find simply amazing is how many players in here looked the other way when they saw Alpini13 cheating.  What I find even worse is  the "It's not my job" attitude of so many as well.  What some of you do not realize is when Alpini13 thought I was Cheating after a collision where I didn't die, he posted on UTube (or at least claimed to) a film of me cheating, and admitting to cheating.  Needless to say the film was contrived or edited to "frame" me.  He also recruited at least one person to come into the arena and confirm that I was a cheater and the proof was on the UTube video.
No matter what anyone thinks of me personally, or as an Aces High player, I can say without qualification I have never cheated in this game, and most if not all in AH will agree.
The game is what you make of it. If the players allow cheating to go on, the game will deteriorate into nothing more than a video game.  HTC cannot be everywhere, we need to police our own.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SHawk on September 08, 2010, 01:07:57 AM
What I find simply amazing is how many players in here looked the other way when they saw Alpini13 cheating.  What I find even worse is  the "It's not my job" attitude of so many as well.  What some of you do not realize is when Alpini13 thought I was Cheating after a collision where I didn't die, he posted on UTube (or at least claimed to) a film of me cheating, and admitting to cheating.  Needless to say the film was contrived or edited to "frame" me.  He also recruited at least one person to come into the arena and confirm that I was a cheater and the proof was on the UTube video.
No matter what anyone thinks of me personally, or as an Aces High player, I can say without qualification I have never cheated in this game, and most if not all in AH will agree.
The game is what you make of it. If the players allow cheating to go on, the game will deteriorate into nothing more than a video game.  HTC cannot be everywhere, we need to police our own.

Thats easy TeeArr, just stop your cheating! :bolt:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: perdue3 on September 08, 2010, 01:40:10 AM
Everyone likes The Few? News to me.


perdweeb
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Chalenge on September 08, 2010, 03:52:48 AM
Everyone likes The Few? News to me.

Whats not to like dweeb? Because they fly allied planes?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: wil3ur on September 08, 2010, 09:41:13 AM
What I find simply amazing is how many players in here looked the other way when they saw Alpini13 cheating.  What I find even worse is  the "It's not my job" attitude of so many as well.  What some of you do not realize is when Alpini13 thought I was Cheating after a collision where I didn't die, he posted on UTube (or at least claimed to) a film of me cheating, and admitting to cheating.  Needless to say the film was contrived or edited to "frame" me.  He also recruited at least one person to come into the arena and confirm that I was a cheater and the proof was on the UTube video.
No matter what anyone thinks of me personally, or as an Aces High player, I can say without qualification I have never cheated in this game, and most if not all in AH will agree.
The game is what you make of it. If the players allow cheating to go on, the game will deteriorate into nothing more than a video game.  HTC cannot be everywhere, we need to police our own.

I can personally vouch for the Fact that TeeArr doesn't cheat, he just likes to HO with a tempest.   :x

That being said, I find the "Shade" issue to be completely retarded.  It's easy in most instances to only allow 1 account to be logged in at a time, and have a 5 minute "cool down" between account swapping.  This has been in place for MMO's since my Ultima Online days (1996) to keep idiots from gaming the game using multiple accounts.  It still allows the company to collect maximum revenue and lets someone have all the accounts they want, it just makes it more difficult for them to log in multiple people at once (and more expensive).

It could be implimented , but then again, it would be acknowleging that there is a problem with the software.  All developers are the same, "ITS NOT A BUG/CHEAT/EXPLOIT IT'S A FEATURE!!!!"   :angel:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SunBat on September 08, 2010, 10:10:32 AM
What I find simply amazing is how many players in here looked the other way when they saw Alpini13 cheating.  What I find even worse is  the "It's not my job" attitude of so many as well.  What some of you do not realize is when Alpini13 thought I was Cheating after a collision where I didn't die, he posted on UTube (or at least claimed to) a film of me cheating, and admitting to cheating.  Needless to say the film was contrived or edited to "frame" me.  He also recruited at least one person to come into the arena and confirm that I was a cheater and the proof was on the UTube video.
No matter what anyone thinks of me personally, or as an Aces High player, I can say without qualification I have never cheated in this game, and most if not all in AH will agree.
The game is what you make of it. If the players allow cheating to go on, the game will deteriorate into nothing more than a video game.  HTC cannot be everywhere, we need to police our own.

We know you don't cheat. 

Welcome to the BBS.  Bought time....
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dmdchief on September 08, 2010, 10:34:56 AM
Well how is that any different than the #1 bomber guy taking b24's, etc. to 30k then going from town to town and dropping 1 bomb on the center of town to get an astronomical score, and before he says he doesn't do it I was on and saw it with my own eyes, while taking out the guns at a town.

salute
ab8aac/dmdchief/aac
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Boozeman on September 08, 2010, 10:44:12 AM
Well how is that any different than...

Simple, your example requires time and effort to earn your score and perks, killing a shade over and over does not.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dmdchief on September 08, 2010, 10:49:15 AM
Boozeman, you missed the point, it is still just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help which ever chess piece you are flying for.  So is shooting his shade account just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help out.
salute
ab8aac/dmdchief/aac
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SHawk on September 08, 2010, 11:01:30 AM
Boozeman, you missed the point, it is still just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help which ever chess piece you are flying for.  So is shooting his shade account just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help out.
salute
ab8aac/dmdchief/aac

And running away from a 1vs1 back to horde/gang is different? I've got film of a couple in this thread actually running away "With Alt"!
I guess you can just say I'm helping my country by giving them skill-less kills. :aok :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Boozeman on September 08, 2010, 11:05:48 AM
Boozeman, you missed the point, it is still just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help which ever chess piece you are flying for.  So is shooting his shade account just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help out.
salute
ab8aac/dmdchief/aac

Whats wrong with flying a high alt bombing run? If towns had puffy ack reaching that altitude, the towns would shoot back. A shade will not even evade an attack, let alone shoot at the shade-killer

And why should someone help the war effort if he does not feel to do so?  

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: LLogann on September 08, 2010, 11:12:32 AM
You're actually quite wrong with that one sir............  I'm one of those buff pilots and after the hour of climbing and getting into enemy territory, there is always 2 or 3 folk that want to kill me.... 9 times out of 10, it's a decent stick.  Now that stick is no longer on the front line fighting my brothers, he is in back country wasting time coming to get me.  NOTHING better can be done for my country, and I gladly except the responsibility of keeping those solo fighters tied up.  I'm a great gunner (toot toot) and they will always come back for more.  

Boozeman, you missed the point, it is still just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help which ever chess piece you are flying for.  So is shooting his shade account just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help out.
salute
ab8aac/dmdchief/aac

What more can I do for my country?  What do you do for your chess piece?

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dmdchief on September 08, 2010, 11:41:32 AM
HE HE HE, I hunt bombers at 30k, LOL

SALUTE
aab8aac/dmdchief/aac :old:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: LLogann on September 08, 2010, 11:46:14 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 08, 2010, 12:05:09 PM
Boozeman, you missed the point, it is still just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help which ever chess piece you are flying for.  So is shooting his shade account just gaming the game to get an inflated score, when it does nothing to help out.
salute
ab8aac/dmdchief/aac

There is a big difference and one I'm surprised that is missed by quite a few on this thread.  In the scenario you described with the  high alt B-24, sure the player is playing for score but unlike alpini13, the buff pilot isn't ruining the integrity of the game.  That's what people seem to miss, people don't seem to realize that actions from twits like alpini13 ruin the integrity of the game which can have a significant negative impact if it continues unchecked. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: papjohns on September 08, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
I am curious....how is he still a member of the SWAMPDRAGONS? Is this sort of thing condoned by that squad? I can't find the open-a-can-of-worms emicon...
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 08, 2010, 12:45:51 PM
I am curious....how is he still a member of the SWAMPDRAGONS? Is this sort of thing condoned by that squad? I can't find the open-a-can-of-worms emicon...

Some squadrons don't care, obviously SwampDragons is one of those squadrons that don't care if their ranks are made up of crap.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 08, 2010, 12:49:35 PM
I can personally vouch for the Fact that TeeArr doesn't cheat, he just likes to HO with a tempest.   :x

I'm just wondering who would ever accuse him of cheating, as HOing and running in a tempest shouldn't raise any red flags.   :headscratch:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: LLogann on September 08, 2010, 12:56:56 PM
From my perspective (currently 45.37 fighter perks), ho'ing in a Tempy just sounds plain ole silly. 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: LLogann on September 08, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
They are a respectable group of sticks, no need to start burning anybody at the stake.

Some squadrons don't care, obviously SwampDragons is one of those squadrons that don't care if their ranks are made up of crap.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Shuffler on September 08, 2010, 01:14:40 PM
They are a respectable group of sticks, no need to start burning anybody at the stake.


You can go to church every Sunday and Wednesday..... but if you hang out with thugs you'll be considered a thug.

Turn a blind eye and no matter what you may think you are...... your no better than your weakest link.

Then maybe my definition of respectable is a lot more stringent than yours. :)
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: LLogann on September 08, 2010, 01:24:07 PM
I'm not going to argue that, heck no, but it would be no different if you guys added some dude that eventually became a headache.  We are all assuming that first off SWAMPDRAGONS are, not only aware of what he was doing, but also approved it.  I can't say for sure whether I know him, but the guys from SD that I do know well, are all of solid character.

You can go to church every Sunday and Wednesday..... but if you hang out with thugs you'll be considered a thug.

Turn a blind eye and no matter what you may think you are...... your no better than your weakest link.

Then maybe my definition of respectable is a lot more stringent than yours. :)
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: choker41 on September 08, 2010, 01:49:20 PM
I can tell you as a SwampDragon I had no idea this was going on.  Tonight is squad night for us and I'm going to bring this up with Slayem.  I honestly don't think any of them look on the bbs to see all this. I know most them don't care about rank so most don't check. I however watch ranks and bbs cause there is more to the game than just flying. I love being a part of this community. Alpini question my integrity when I switched sides to become a SwampDragon. Now I'm questioning his. I don't want to be part of a squad who cheats nor one that will allow this to go on.  This is a black eye for the squad and I hope it doesn't stick with us.  I would apologize for the whole squad but I'm sure 90% don't even know this is going on.


FUBAR
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 08, 2010, 02:19:15 PM
looks as if he's been "cleared" of his fighter rank...oops?   :lol   Skuzzified!!   :devil  :rock
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 08, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
Isn't this just grand?  I have been racking my brain for 2 years trying to understand....watching.....an d listening to how some guys have great scores, unbelievable flying skills (even for a game) and still help others out on VOX and today a bit of credibility for good sticks (the ones I don't know and have never spoken to) gets crap-hammered by this bafoon Alpini13 and his scoring antics.

Who has the time to think of this kind of crap?  Hey...alpweenie, if you spent 1/2 as much time learning to fly the plane as you do shortcutting the scoring process, you wouldn't be persona non grata in here, the MA, the DA and your own squad.....you sir are a future felon.  Don't bend over for the soap.

Changeup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SEseph on September 08, 2010, 02:31:36 PM
Who has the time to think of this kind of crap?  Hey...alpweenie, if you spent 1/2 as much time learning to fly the plane as you do shortcutting the scoring process, you wouldn't be persona non grata in here, the MA, the DA and your own squad.....you sir are a future felon.  Don't bend over for the soap.

Changeup

alpweenie just got pwned  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Chewie on September 08, 2010, 02:32:01 PM
Been around the swampdragons, I always hold them in high regard.  You can't ask a squad to police everything.  As far as Alpini13 is concerned totally screwed up a cv mission about 3 weeks ago to get back at me for Asking him (and several others-I was mission commander) 4 times to not up before the mission.  He decides to wait for the next mission Climbs and flame me via PM.  I let it go for about the first 4 or 5 times.  I will say this-I got him back in the FSO and got the last laugh big time.   :neener:  
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 08, 2010, 02:53:32 PM
I'm just wondering who would ever accuse him of cheating, as HOing and running in a tempest shouldn't raise any red flags.   :headscratch:

Nice dig there Grizz.  You are a real class act.  One wonders why you didn't turn Alpini13 in two days before My squad did.  Is it that you condone such behavior?  This of course makes one wonder if you are complicent in this form of cheating.
As I said, a real class act.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: LLogann on September 08, 2010, 02:55:32 PM
But................ Do you really ho in the Tempy?     :confused:


Nice dig there Grizz.  You are a real class act.  One wonders why you didn't turn Alpini13 in two days before My squad did.  Is it that you condone such behavior?  This of course makes one wonder if you are complicent in this form of cheating.
As I said, a real class act.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 08, 2010, 02:56:32 PM
I can tell you as a SwampDragon I had no idea this was going on.  Tonight is squad night for us and I'm going to bring this up with Slayem.  I honestly don't think any of them look on the bbs to see all this. I know most them don't care about rank so most don't check. I however watch ranks and bbs cause there is more to the game than just flying. I love being a part of this community. Alpini question my integrity when I switched sides to become a SwampDragon. Now I'm questioning his. I don't want to be part of a squad who cheats nor one that will allow this to go on.  This is a black eye for the squad and I hope it doesn't stick with us.  I would apologize for the whole squad but I'm sure 90% don't even know this is going on.


FUBAR
I dont think anyone is looking at Swampdragons negatively...just alpini in a very poor way.   :aok     Hang in there Swampdragons!  :rock 

 :salute SWkiljoy
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: oTRALFZo on September 08, 2010, 03:34:57 PM
Should  never hold a whole squad responsable for the actions of one fool. Yes its the COs job to protect the integrity of the squad, but were squadmembers in a cartoon world here..not thier parents.

Swampdragons are a great bunch of folks and always been. (exception being maybe 1 mouthy member, but Ill keep my trap shut here) but overall are respected by many.

As far as Tee goes, probably the nicest guy in the game that you can fly with.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: klingan on September 08, 2010, 04:01:58 PM
I can tell you as a SwampDragon I had no idea this was going on.  Tonight is squad night for us and I'm going to bring this up with Slayem.  I honestly don't think any of them look on the bbs to see all this. I know most them don't care about rank so most don't check. I however watch ranks and bbs cause there is more to the game than just flying. I love being a part of this community. Alpini question my integrity when I switched sides to become a SwampDragon. Now I'm questioning his. I don't want to be part of a squad who cheats nor one that will allow this to go on.  This is a black eye for the squad and I hope it doesn't stick with us.  I would apologize for the whole squad but I'm sure 90% don't even know this is going on.


FUBAR

Choker its good to see that you are still making the skies unhealthy  :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Shuffler on September 08, 2010, 04:04:40 PM
Should  never hold a whole squad responsable for the actions of one fool. Yes its the COs job to protect the integrity of the squad, but were squadmembers in a cartoon world here..not thier parents.

Swampdragons are a great bunch of folks and always been. (exception being maybe 1 mouthy member, but Ill keep my trap shut here) but overall are respected by many.

As far as Tee goes, probably the nicest guy in the game that you can fly with.

I don't think anyone is holding the squad responsible for the guy's actions.

Squads are nothing but groups of idividuals. The leadership can throw the bad apples to the side to protect their name. On the other side, with squads that don't throw the bad apples out, the idividuals can decide on their own to stay or go elsewhere.

As the saying goes, "We all make our bed and have to lay in it."
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 08, 2010, 04:05:42 PM
No, I don't "Really HO in a Tempest".  Sometimes people will say that in order to absolve themselves of any blame for a poorly planned attack.  Sometimes HOs happen.  I have seen other players break off an attck to have a chance at killing a Tempest.  For what it's worth, I never try to HO, but if someone comes at me head on and firing, I'll shoot back. (This, of course has just absolved me of any blame for my own poorly thought out attack!)
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 08, 2010, 04:06:17 PM
This of course makes one wonder if you are complicent in this form of cheating.

You have access to my stats for every tour I have flown.  Have at it chief.   :aok
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: LLogann on September 08, 2010, 04:30:58 PM
You might not know what complacent means...... Just saying.  And it wasn't really used correctly to begin with.  I think the op was trying to point out your ambiguity to such a tactic.

You have access to my stats for every tour I have flown.  Have at it chief.   :aok
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 08, 2010, 04:38:29 PM
You might not know what complacent means...... Just saying.  And it wasn't really used correctly to begin with.  I think the op was trying to point out your ambiguity to such a tactic.


You might not know what complicit means, just saying.  It implies knowing and/or being an accesory to a crime.  Not the same as complacent, although the two do share similar meanings in regard that one who is complicit may be acting complacement.

Complicity is an indication of guilt.  Complacency is an indication of apathy.

Although since TeeArr combined the two words together, me thinks that he does not know the definition of either word.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SunBat on September 08, 2010, 04:52:30 PM
You have access to my stats for every tour I have flown.  Have at it chief.   :aok

I just checked your score and I hereby accuse you of having 200+ shades. 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SunBat on September 08, 2010, 04:54:37 PM
You might not know what complacent means...... Just saying.  And it wasn't really used correctly to begin with.  I think the op was trying to point out your ambiguity to such a tactic.



You might not know what complicit means, just saying.  It implies knowing and/or being an accesory to a crime.  Not the same as complacent, although the two do share similar meanings in regard that one who is complicit may be acting complacement.

Complicity is an indication of guilt.  Complacency is an indication of apathy.

Although since TeeArr combined the two words together, me thinks that he does not know the definition of either word.

Egads.  Talk about a post blowing up in someone's face.   :lol
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 08, 2010, 05:00:45 PM
Pardon me...I was typing and making funeral arrangements for my father.  I meant Complicit.  I do know the meaning of both words, and I meant what I wrote.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SunBat on September 08, 2010, 05:02:28 PM
Pardon me...I was typing and making funeral arrangements for my father.  I meant Complicit.  I do know the meaning of both words, and I meant what I wrote.


That was mainly for Llogan's benefit.  Sorry to hear about your dad. 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 08, 2010, 05:04:35 PM
Additionally, complicit means being aware of a transgression but choosing to let it go unpunished, or without comment.  And all of my stats are available for you to check out as well, "Chief".
Knock yourself out.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 08, 2010, 05:09:26 PM
You might not know what complicit means, just saying.  It implies knowing and/or being an accesory to a crime.  Not the same as complacent, although the two do share similar meanings in regard that one who is complicit may be acting complacement.


You might also wish to check the spelling of "complacement" and "accesory" while you are correcting other's typos.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 08, 2010, 05:15:00 PM
You might also wish to check the spelling of "complacement" and "accesory" while you are correcting other's typos.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 08, 2010, 06:33:24 PM
Additionally, complicit means being aware of a transgression but choosing to let it go unpunished, or without comment.  And all of my stats are available for you to check out as well, "Chief".
Knock yourself out.

My stats are there as well....in order they are:

suc
sukier
sucfest
sucsthemost
suckageofepicproportion
suckhorblebad

Essentially, I rock.

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Roadblck on September 08, 2010, 06:41:45 PM
I noticed this fella's stats also, when he was on the other morning trash talking.  I wouldn't have even looked them up if he hadn't been such a jerk on channel 200.  Good riddance.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: infowars on September 08, 2010, 06:52:17 PM
I like the idea of known shades have a different color icon...  And,  they should be susceptible to friendly fire... = )
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: uptown on September 08, 2010, 07:59:07 PM
Hiya TR...ya ole cheater!  :D :salute


I'm sorry to hear about your loss bud. :pray
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: ACE on September 08, 2010, 08:02:48 PM
No matter what the topic, thread, forum; some how it always ends with The Few's reputaion.

Don't you guys find this odd or even embarassing? That everyone has something to say about your egos or the way you fly?

I say The Few, I really mean DFC. Gonna try and leave MickyD out of this although I have seen him shooting at me in the horde  :)



perdweeb
If I may ask why are you always repling in The Fews convorsation ? Its like your wanting to start an argument. Very Imature.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: uptown on September 08, 2010, 09:00:34 PM
It seems perdweeb is jealous of the Fews notoriety. IMO whoever has put that squad together has done a fine job at picking it's recruits and they've meshed into a top notch unit. That's not so easy to do.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: wil3ur on September 08, 2010, 09:05:40 PM
But................ Do you really ho in the Tempy?     :confused:


I have a great video of it...  all I have to say is, "I warned him!" :devil
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SunBat on September 08, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
You might also wish to check the spelling of "complacement" and "accesory" while you are correcting other's typos.

:rofl Grizz got pwnt. :D
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SunBat on September 08, 2010, 09:16:01 PM
It seems perdweeb is jealous of the Fews notoriety. IMO whoever has put that squad together has done a fine job at picking it's recruits and they've meshed into a top notch unit. That's not so easy to do.


Nah, Per ain't jealous but I'll agree with the rest of your post. 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 08, 2010, 09:19:11 PM
Please, post the Video.  People will also see how a K-4 can survive two collisions and fly home.  Not that I am saying that it is due to any great flying skill on wilb3r's part, but more of an Indictment of the Collision model.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: wil3ur on September 08, 2010, 09:27:16 PM
Please, post the Video.  People will also see how a K-4 can survive two collisions and fly home.  Not that I am saying that it is due to any great flying skill on wilb3r's part, but more of an Indictment of the Collision model.

Just checked my video and laughed nice and hard...  btw, you colided w/ me, and there was no 2nd collision, but think what you will.  As I said, you collided w/ my 30mm...  and by the way, read the chat log when I post.  I warned you.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 08, 2010, 09:32:12 PM
Well, let's see here.  First we collided when you pulled up into my Tempest shearing a wing off.  I bailed, and you continued on.  Next, I took off in another Tempest...Again we collided...I was killed, you survived.  And if what you just posted is true about me colliding with your 30 MMs, then just who HO'd whom?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: papjohns on September 08, 2010, 09:32:45 PM
Just checked my video and laughed nice and hard...  btw, you colided w/ me, and there was no 2nd collision, but think what you will.  As I said, you collided w/ my 30mm...  and by the way, read the chat log when I post.  I warned you.

Film or it didn't happen! I am also looking forward to the ... "got papajohn'd" film....you know what I am talking about  :x :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 08, 2010, 09:41:31 PM
Who were you referring to, Papajohn?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: wil3ur on September 08, 2010, 09:41:45 PM
Film or it didn't happen! I am also looking forward to the ... "got papajohn'd" film....you know what I am talking about  :x :salute

I don't think I saved that one, I'll be sure to send one for you next time.  Video is up for all to enjoy.  Flame away! :cry :cry :cry
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 08, 2010, 10:10:04 PM
Please, post the Video.  People will also see how a K-4 can survive two collisions and fly home.  Not that I am saying that it is due to any great flying skill on wilb3r's part, but more of an Indictment of the Collision model.

No, it's more of a case that you don't understand how the collision model works. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 08, 2010, 10:10:59 PM
Say what you will, but on the second sortie, each time I turned into you to avoid handing you a kill..somehow, I think most people in here would do the same when confronted with an enemy with Alt, E, and position.  The first sortie, wasn't a Ho...it was however a very poorly (on my part) misjudged merge. You did pull up as I went past you.  But hey, if you can get your jollies off by doing this in a post that didn't even concern you...(Unless of course you cheat), then by all means, you should have your say.  Don't think that the favor won't be returned if the opportunity should ever present itself.  Perhaps not by me...but someone.  What comes around, goes around.
See you in the skies <S>
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: wil3ur on September 08, 2010, 10:18:18 PM
Quote
But hey, if you can get your jollies off by doing this in a post that didn't even concern you...(Unless of course you cheat), then by all means, you should have your say.

Yup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: drfritz on September 08, 2010, 11:14:20 PM
i want to hear it out of hitech mouth one way or the other and put a end to this for once and all.not going to point fingers either way, till then he still in the sqd.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 09, 2010, 12:08:10 AM
i want to hear it out of hitech mouth one way or the other and put a end to this for once and all.not going to point fingers either way, till then he still in the sqd.

Then don't be surprised if your squadron gets a reputation of being nothing but 'tards.  Enjoy.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 09, 2010, 12:16:09 AM
i want to hear it out of hitech mouth one way or the other and put a end to this for once and all.not going to point fingers either way, till then he still in the sqd.

HiTech has spoken....Alpini13's rank was taken away (read the next post).  I believe that is enough evidence that Skuzzy or HiTech or both reviewed it.  Now, be man and take some action against your future convict, axe murderer squadmate.  

Cheating?  Geezus...its like cheating at golf!  Who cheats at golf?? If you cheat, how in the hell do you ever know how good you really are?  Its an Arnold "Palmer-ism": Bad (meaning bad character) Golfer, Bad Person!...Bad Pilot, Bad Person...he's probably already stealing gum from the 7-11!  Or cheap joysticks from Best Buy....he's cheating with stolen joysticks!!! lmao

Changeup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 09, 2010, 12:17:27 AM
looks as if he's been "cleared" of his fighter rank...oops?   :lol   Skuzzified!!   :devil  :rock
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: drfritz on September 09, 2010, 12:24:31 AM
easy on the name calling there ack ack. we heard a different side of the storie and just want to hear  from the  main man before we make judgment call. if he is in the wrong then by sqd rules hes gone. thats all there is to it.nothing more nothing less.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: drfritz on September 09, 2010, 12:28:22 AM
like i said theres another side that you all have not heard and we are waiting for hitec to say what happened.. not the 1st time somebody jump the gun.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Bear76 on September 09, 2010, 12:32:21 AM
like i said theres another side that you all have not heard and we are waiting for hitec to say what happened.. not the 1st time somebody jump the gun.

I seriously doubt HiTech will explain it to you. If he cleared his score, there was a reason.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: drfritz on September 09, 2010, 12:36:29 AM
dont want hitech to explain a dang thing just want yes he did it, or a no he did not. if thats to damn hard to do?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Bear76 on September 09, 2010, 12:37:31 AM
dont want hitech to explain a dang thing just want yes he did it, or a no he did not. if thats to damn hard to do?

You aren't involved so don't expect an answer.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 09, 2010, 12:38:00 AM
like i said theres another side that you all have not heard and we are waiting for hitec to say what happened.. not the 1st time somebody jump the gun.

HiTech's reply was the removal of alpini13's score/rank and perks.  Can't get a more clear reply than that.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 09, 2010, 12:38:15 AM
dont want hitech to explain a dang thing just want yes he did it, or a no he did not. if thats to damn hard to do?

If his rank has been removed, that would be a "yes" he did it.  That is all I'm saying...but your best bet is to call Skuzzy if you are looking for "trust but verify".  Or, you can put the blinders back on and bump into walls for a while....just sayin. :salute

Changeup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: drfritz on September 09, 2010, 12:44:50 AM
and thats what out xo is going to do.if you all want to hear what we were told is thaat hitec jump the gun, in doing that and are not able to give those kills back with out reseting the whole arena scores. there thats the side we heard. . thus is the reason we want 1st hand acount from the staff at hitec.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Bear76 on September 09, 2010, 12:48:29 AM
and thats what out xo is going to do.if you all want to hear what we were told is thaat hitec jump the gun, in doing that and are not able to give those kills back with out reseting the whole arena scores. there thats the side we heard. . thus is the reason we want 1st hand acount from the staff at hitec.


Sounds like a story to me. If they can be taken away, they can be replaced. From experience, I can tell you the best thing you can do for your squad is distance yourself.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: drfritz on September 09, 2010, 01:46:19 AM
THANKS, but i'll wait to past judgment till i hear from skuzzy or some other member of the staff. further more what happened to rule 7? 7- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously. and in posting that i broke rule 5 Members are asked to not act as "back seat moderators". If you feel a post violates the forum rules, the use the "Report to Moderator" link in the post to report it. but thats life.

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: wil3ur on September 09, 2010, 09:46:58 AM
Technically, I don't believe it is 'cheating'.  That's the whole point.  It's more of an exploit.  If he were cheating, I believe we'd see a playerwipe, and not just a clearing of scores.

Every player has the opportunity to do what Alpini has done, most just have the common sense and decency to know that it's a retarded thing to do, and ruins the fun for everyone.  There are people that force close their game when they're going down in flames to get a disco rather than give up a kill.  Is that cheating?  Not really.  Is it exploiting how the game registers k/d & score?  Yes.  Does every player have the opportunity to do it?  Yes.  Do they all?  No, because most realize it's ruining the fun of the game.  Would taking either of those features out of the game negatively impact it?  Yes.

Basically, it's a trust issue that we will use common sense and decency, both things lacking in today's world, when playing the game and utilizing it's 'features'.  There will always be those who will use these for an advantage.  The best thing we can do is take that advantage away.  Why not post on 200 when you see Alpini upping and Butcher is online?  Or where his shade is upping out of, then everyone can converge and start stealing kills and making it a furball.  Eventually, the lack of easy kills, the amount of deaths due to the furball will make the shade account a waste of $15.  I mean, posting where someone's at on 200 is just 'exploiting' a feature of the game to give us an unfair advantage.  Little different than shade killing right?



Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: papjohns on September 09, 2010, 10:00:53 AM
THANKS, but i'll wait to past judgment till i hear from skuzzy or some other member of the staff. further more what happened to rule 7? 7- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously. and in posting that i broke rule 5 Members are asked to not act as "back seat moderators". If you feel a post violates the forum rules, the use the "Report to Moderator" link in the post to report it. but thats life.




Seriously, you are defending his actions? That's funny...maybe you guys give him a promotion or something while you are at it. He could be your public affairs and outreach officer. Quick to invoke rule#7 (giving the appearance that you want to hide this), and defending alptard13 = the worse the SDs look. If you were smart about the whole thing, and actually want to keep him (which I find super funny), the best thing he could do is change his name and you guys reinvite him. Problem solved.

I am not sure how there can be a "mistake" made; it's pretty obvious to me what happened....or did Butcher accidentally fly in front of his guns in buffs 60+ times without shooting back? If you could sell perks on ebay, he would be the type of guy to buy them.

Ooooops.....I went afk 60 times after taking off; ooooppppsss...insert moronic expletive here.

Just out of curiosity-what's the other side of the story. I am sure there is a rational explanation for Butcher's demise at the hands and the awesomness of alpdude.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 09, 2010, 10:23:23 AM
Technically, I don't believe it is 'cheating'....


"Technically", there are a lot of things you can do in life that there aren't rules against, but are still dishonest.  Just because HTC doesn't have a clearly defined rule for each and every instance, doesn't mean he wasn't cheating.
The 99% of players who don't cheat, ("Technically", or otherwise), find his actions reprehensible.  Try testing your "Technically, it's not cheating" maxim in the real world and see how well it flies. 
By saying that, AND posting a lengthy diatribe justifying his actions only makes you look irresponsible and uninformed.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: wil3ur on September 09, 2010, 10:28:24 AM
This is my "I don't listen to what TeeArr Says" face  :neener:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: wil3ur on September 09, 2010, 10:30:36 AM
And the point of that post was not to defend his actions, to add some information. 

A) You don't talk about cheating on Forums (See rule 7 TeeArr and quit throwing that word around like it's candy). 

And B) These are things built into the game to enhance play, and yes it is dishonest to 'exploit' these, but it's not technically cheating.  It's being a d-bag, thus why his score was wiped, but why his account was not deleted.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 09, 2010, 11:24:35 AM
And the point of that post was not to defend his actions, to add some information. 

A) You don't talk about cheating on Forums (See rule 7 TeeArr and quit throwing that word around like it's candy). 

And B) These are things built into the game to enhance play, and yes it is dishonest to 'exploit' these, but it's not technically cheating.  It's being a d-bag, thus why his score was wiped, but why his account was not deleted.

:rofl :rofl :rofl
Good Man!   :cheers: 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 09, 2010, 11:48:53 AM
Fortunately Wil3er, you don't have the privilege of telling me what and what not to do.  As far as I am concerned he was cheating, he was punished for it, and you are defending his actions.  One wonders what your agenda truly is.  After reading your Posts, and watching your video, it appears that you are the real D-bag.
At any rate, tonight I fly to Arizona to bury my father.  After that, I won't be playing AH anymore.  The fun is gone.  So, do people like you, Alpini and Grizz "win"?  "Technically" I guess so.  But guess what!   I don't care.  If how you fly is "Technically" not cheating, have fun...and knock yourself out. :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 09, 2010, 11:51:07 AM
So sorry to hear it TA... Shame how life has its ups and downs. But that's life i suppose.   :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Tom5572 on September 09, 2010, 12:24:02 PM
drfritz, 
     If you want confirmation, look up butchers stats for lw 127.  He was killed almost exclusively by alpini13.  There was one set of buffs which were killed by two other people.  Butcher did not kill anyone.  There is no suspicion in that only confirmation.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: gpwurzel on September 09, 2010, 12:24:09 PM
TeeArr, sorry to hear about your father my friend, if there is anything I can do, let me know. As for you not flying here any more, to me thats a crying shame - I value both the fights with/against you, and your friendship in game.

Hope you reconsider,

Wurzel
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Hawk55 on September 09, 2010, 12:42:41 PM
Fortunately Wil3er, you don't have the privilege of telling me what and what not to do.  As far as I am concerned he was cheating, he was punished for it, and you are defending his actions.  One wonders what your agenda truly is.  After reading your Posts, and watching your video, it appears that you are the real D-bag.
At any rate, tonight I fly to Arizona to bury my father.  After that, I won't be playing AH anymore. 

Agreed Tee.  Condolences on your Dad.   :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Bear76 on September 09, 2010, 03:09:06 PM
THANKS, but i'll wait to past judgment till i hear from skuzzy or some other member of the staff. further more what happened to rule 7? 7- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously. and in posting that i broke rule 5 Members are asked to not act as "back seat moderators". If you feel a post violates the forum rules, the use the "Report to Moderator" link in the post to report it. but thats life.



"You" won't hear anything from HTC. It's not your account and they won't discuss it with you.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: FBGrave on September 09, 2010, 03:24:11 PM
I say get rid of the scoring system and make everyone fly naked at Dayton....
then we're all equal.....
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 09, 2010, 03:27:41 PM
I say get rid of the scoring system and make everyone fly naked at Dayton....
then we're all equal.....
Just remember "What Happens in Dayton...STAYS in Dayton"   :noid     :bolt:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: DMGOD on September 09, 2010, 03:46:29 PM
 :salute  TEEARR Condolences on your Father sir.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 09, 2010, 03:51:07 PM
Fortunately Wil3er, you don't have the privilege of telling me what and what not to do.  As far as I am concerned he was cheating, he was punished for it, and you are defending his actions.  One wonders what your agenda truly is.  After reading your Posts, and watching your video, it appears that you are the real D-bag.
At any rate, tonight I fly to Arizona to bury my father.  After that, I won't be playing AH anymore.  The fun is gone.  So, do people like you, Alpini and Grizz "win"?  "Technically" I guess so.  But guess what!   I don't care.  If how you fly is "Technically" not cheating, have fun...and knock yourself out. :salute

Don't put that on me please.  Sorry for your loss. 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 09, 2010, 05:28:05 PM
I am sorry, Grizz.  You are right, I shouldn't lump you in with those two. :salute  Please accept my apology.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SHawk on September 09, 2010, 06:58:53 PM
I say get rid of the scoring system and make everyone fly naked at Dayton....
then we're all equal.....

Make em? I thought they did it Voluntarily! :D
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: wil3ur on September 10, 2010, 12:08:02 AM
Wait...  I'm lumped in with Grizz?  AWESOME!

When do I get a Soup signature?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 10, 2010, 08:27:28 AM
Make em? I thought they did it Voluntarily! :D
:rofl   :banana:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Vinkman on September 10, 2010, 09:58:50 AM
He sure is doing a nice job killing butcher this tour.  :)

I just noticed something.....

No wonder Grizz is so good. Living in virtual world must be way more exciting than living in Lincoln Nebraska.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 10, 2010, 10:31:49 AM
I just noticed something.....

No wonder Grizz is so good. Living in virtual world must be way more exciting than living in Lincoln Nebraska.

No you just did not...
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TW9 on September 10, 2010, 10:51:41 AM
I just noticed something.....

No wonder Grizz is so good. Living in virtual world must be way more exciting than living in Lincoln Nebraska.

 :rofl  :aok
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Dr_Death8 on September 10, 2010, 11:02:52 AM
After that, I won't be playing AH anymore.

Wow, really, my life will never be the same.  :huh :devil
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dirtdart on September 10, 2010, 11:03:36 AM
The Swampdragons......  

A set of good men, who work well together and have a hell of a lot of fun.  I just finished reading this thread.  To summarize a squads character by the conduct of a player is simply pathetic.  I would argue that a squad that ropes kills or masses low planes for it's older players to pick would rank lower than a squad who is oblivious to the conduct of a player. I enjoyed flying with the Swampdragons and made some damned fine friends flying with them.  I think the posters in this thread who maligned the squad may want to reconsider their opinion.  I also would say they are loyal to their members.  They took the time to be diligent enough to not toss a guy on a BBS rant.  Hope your squads have that much character.  

Teearr <S>.  Hope it really is not ends for you, I enjoy chasing Tempys in K4s.   :salute

 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Slash27 on September 10, 2010, 11:09:25 AM
I just noticed something.....

No wonder Grizz is so good. Living in virtual world must be way more exciting than living in Lincoln Nebraska.
:D
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 10, 2010, 11:37:52 AM
I just noticed something.....

No wonder Grizz is so good. Living in virtual world must be way more exciting than living in Lincoln Nebraska.

Lincoln isn't the armpit of the world...........but you can see it from there! Boomer Sooner Grizz! :neener:

Changeup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: zack1234 on September 10, 2010, 11:44:24 AM
peas
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Tom5572 on September 10, 2010, 12:13:14 PM
Having flown with the Swampdragons, I know them and agree they would not let this kind of thing pass.  It is too bad one guy being stupid would bring a taint on the rest of a good squad. 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SunBat on September 10, 2010, 12:27:00 PM
I just noticed something.....

No wonder Grizz is so good. Living in virtual world must be way more exciting than living in Lincoln Nebraska.

This will drive anyone to hide in a cartoon world FOREVARRRRR!!!!!

(http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/hunterlawrence21.jpg)

P.S.  I love the guys on the sideline.  Their world was about to get crushed....  Bwhahahahahahahahahaha :banana: :lol :banana: :lol
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Shuffler on September 10, 2010, 12:34:59 PM
The Swampdragons......  

A set of good men, who work well together and have a hell of a lot of fun.  I just finished reading this thread.  To summarize a squads character by the conduct of a player is simply pathetic.  I would argue that a squad that ropes kills or masses low planes for it's older players to pick would rank lower than a squad who is oblivious to the conduct of a player. I enjoyed flying with the Swampdragons and made some damned fine friends flying with them.  I think the posters in this thread who maligned the squad may want to reconsider their opinion.  I also would say they are loyal to their members.  They took the time to be diligent enough to not toss a guy on a BBS rant.  Hope your squads have that much character.  

Teearr <S>.  Hope it really is not ends for you, I enjoy chasing Tempys in K4s.   :salute

 

A squad is the sum of it's parts. I'm thinking they'll fix the problem.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Dragon on September 10, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
I say get rid of the scoring system and make everyone fly naked at Dayton....
then we're all equal.....


Not all "things" are created equal......



 :noid
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SHawk on September 10, 2010, 01:16:21 PM
peas

Whirled Peas?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: StokesAk on September 10, 2010, 01:43:54 PM
peas

'n carrots.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Shuffler on September 10, 2010, 02:21:16 PM
mmMMmmmm food again.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: LLogann on September 10, 2010, 03:07:30 PM
This thread should have been locked a long time ago..........
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: papjohns on September 10, 2010, 06:10:10 PM
The Swampdragons......  

A set of good men, who work well together and have a hell of a lot of fun.  I just finished reading this thread.  To summarize a squads character by the conduct of a player is simply pathetic.  I would argue that a squad that ropes kills or masses low planes for it's older players to pick would rank lower than a squad who is oblivious to the conduct of a player. I enjoyed flying with the Swampdragons and made some damned fine friends flying with them.  I think the posters in this thread who maligned the squad may want to reconsider their opinion.  I also would say they are loyal to their members.  They took the time to be diligent enough to not toss a guy on a BBS rant.  Hope your squads have that much character.  

Teearr <S>.  Hope it really is not ends for you, I enjoy chasing Tempys in K4s.   :salute

 


Oblivious? That he is doing it (present tense)...likely. That he was doing it (past tense)...given the press...unlikely. Sort of like saying I am oblivious to the fact there was something called the civil war...

BBS rant? Hardly, given the evidence.

Action > Words. Perception = Reality.

Wait; I just re-read your post. Are you saying Roping a con is worse than killing once shade 60+ times....?

On the subject of Nebraska. I was once given the choice of assignment between Omaha Nebraska and Thule Greenland. I chose Thule.

(http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/21/2161/IAECD00Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dirtdart on September 11, 2010, 05:38:49 AM
Such a tool.....  I suppose you know what every one of your squadies does?  Little voyeuristic for my taste there PJ. 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 11, 2010, 08:44:47 AM
You haters!  Well, poor me is off to a football game at memorial stadium.  Since it is pretty much all we have here, you aren't going to beat a better atmosphere. 

(http://sportoflife.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/mscfbeixicuqqid-20070716194410.jpg)
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: uptown on September 11, 2010, 10:04:11 AM
That pic must have been taken when Bama came to town  :D
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 11, 2010, 10:05:35 AM
There's always a better atmosphere...and number of National Championships........7.  BOOMER SOONER GRIZZ


(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac300/Changeup1/OUStadium.jpg)

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: MickDono on September 11, 2010, 10:52:02 AM
Proper Football :

(http://www.tommo261.com/liverpool/modules/gallery/albums/Tommo261/Kop.jpg)
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: doc1kelley on September 11, 2010, 11:04:47 AM
like i said theres another side that you all have not heard and we are waiting for hitec to say what happened.. not the 1st time somebody jump the gun.

I must state that I've flown with the Swampdragons for ages and 99% are the most honorable of folks to fly with and this one incident should not reflect on the entire squadron.  I also know that HiTec will NOT state what if any actions that they have taken against a player for anything.  What alpini did has been done many times before and is NOT considered the "Cword", but it is unethical and subversive to gameplay and those who have tried it have had their scores reset.  So drfritz, don't wait for any confirmation from HTC, as it just won't happen.  The proof will be in the pudding.  If the score for the player id was reset, then it's the proof.  If Alpini states that HTC has advised him of something different, have him forward you guys the email confirming what he has stated.  I would bet my next two paychecks that if it was a mistake on the side of HTC, they would have posted it in this topic but will not post anything if it was confirmed to be an offence that they took action on.  I don't want you to feel like we are attacking you or the Swampdragons in here as it's natural to want to defend a squadmate under fire, I've done it myself several times and found out that one was wrong and the other right.  The bottom line is that sometimes folks are wrong and sometimes they are right and sometimes they just plain lie to their friends to cover their wrongdoing.

All the Best...

    Jay
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: papjohns on September 11, 2010, 11:08:00 AM
Such a tool.....  I suppose you know what every one of your squadies does?  Little voyeuristic for my taste there PJ.  

Dude. You have no argument. DO THEY REALLY NOT KNOW what is going on with everyone on Ch200 talking about it for the past 2 weeks. REALLY?

Ch200 Conversation:
XYZ: Hey where is Alpini13?
ZXY: Yeah, where is he; I want to kill his shade
XZY: Yeah, can someone tell me where he is?
ZZZ: Hey he is over here; everyone come to A1 and killz him!


(http://punditkitchen.wordpress.com/files/2008/08/political-pictures-subway-biohazard-drill-oblivious.jpg)


Having said all that I know that the SDs are good guys, I am just puzzled by the lack of action...that is all.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: bmwgs on September 11, 2010, 11:22:21 AM
For a bunch of people who claim they don't care about scores, there are sure are a bunch that seems to get all worked up about it.  

If score doesn't matter, then who cares what one does, evidently it does matter, because so many seem to be so concerned.  

If Alpini13 violated some aspect of game play, then it should be reported to HTC and let them deal with it, which evidently they did, so that should be the end of it.

As for the SwampDragons, they are a good bunch of guys, so let them handle their squad. NO ONE has the right to tell them how to handle their business, just like they have no right to tell another how to take care of business in their squad.  They should be able to run their squad as they see fit, and all others need to stay out of their business.  

For a group of alleged adults, a bunch in here sure act like children at recess on a schoolyard.

What is so funny about this whole deal is, all he has to do is change his game ID, and no one would be the wiser.  Using peer pressure to try to correct one actions in this game is at best laughable, all they have to do is change their ID and they have a whole new life.

MY OPINION                             Make sure you read MY OPINION

Fred
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 11, 2010, 12:05:39 PM
For a bunch of people who claim they don't care about scores, there are sure are a bunch that seems to get all worked up about it.  

If score doesn't matter, then who cares what one does, evidently it does matter, because so many seem to be so concerned.  

If Alpini13 violated some aspect of game play, then it should be reported to HTC and let them deal with it, which evidently they did, so that should be the end of it.

As for the SwampDragons, they are a good bunch of guys, so let them handle their squad. NO ONE has the right to tell them how to handle their business, just like they have no right to tell another how to take care of business in their squad.  They should be able to run their squad as they see fit, and all others need to stay out of their business.  

For a group of alleged adults, a bunch in here sure act like children at recess on a schoolyard.

What is so funny about this whole deal is, all he has to do is change his game ID, and no one would be the wiser.  Using peer pressure to try to correct one actions in this game is at best laughable, all they have to do is change their ID and they have a whole new life.

MY OPINION                             Make sure you read MY OPINION

Fred

Except for hiding from HTC...IP address tracking, credit card numbers, wtc.  No one really hides anymore....but those that think they can must be afraid of something....just saying.

Changeup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: bmwgs on September 11, 2010, 12:30:25 PM
Except for hiding from HTC...IP address tracking, credit card numbers, wtc.  No one really hides anymore....but those that think they can must be afraid of something....just saying.

Changeup

What I meant was they can "hide" from the players by changing their ID.  Was not my intent to include HTC.

 :salute

Fred
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: papjohns on September 11, 2010, 01:11:37 PM
For a bunch of people who claim they don't care about scores, there are sure are a bunch that seems to get all worked up about it.  

If score doesn't matter, then who cares what one does, evidently it does matter, because so many seem to be so concerned.  

If Alpini13 violated some aspect of game play, then it should be reported to HTC and let them deal with it, which evidently they did, so that should be the end of it.

As for the SwampDragons, they are a good bunch of guys, so let them handle their squad. NO ONE has the right to tell them how to handle their business, just like they have no right to tell another how to take care of business in their squad.  They should be able to run their squad as they see fit, and all others need to stay out of their business.  

For a group of alleged adults, a bunch in here sure act like children at recess on a schoolyard.

What is so funny about this whole deal is, all he has to do is change his game ID, and no one would be the wiser.  Using peer pressure to try to correct one actions in this game is at best laughable, all they have to do is change their ID and they have a whole new life.

MY OPINION                             Make sure you read MY OPINION

Fred


You are absolutely right. I think my intent was to point out that this looks bad for their squadron; and I got roped into an entirely different track. I could care less what they do, it's their reputation. Anyways, I am out.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: phatzo on September 11, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Proper Football :

(http://www.tommo261.com/liverpool/modules/gallery/albums/Tommo261/Kop.jpg)
thats not football
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/524758860_645628bb05.jpg)
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: xbrit on September 11, 2010, 04:21:05 PM
Proper Football :

(http://www.tommo261.com/liverpool/modules/gallery/albums/Tommo261/Kop.jpg)
That many scousers with hands up must mean the cops are close.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: crazyivan on September 11, 2010, 04:30:25 PM
Such a tool.....  I suppose you know what every one of your squadies does?  Little voyeuristic for my taste there PJ. 
Yes, one of his members needs to stop the pm name calling.  :rofl  Well I guess doing this kinda dweebish thing just hurts the score potatoes but also shows you're a tool. I'd  give him the boot! IMO 
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: drfritz on September 11, 2010, 04:37:41 PM
Was done posting on this subject, bsince Alpini has other matters to deal with. and email was asked about. here it is.no i dont have a SHADE account,NO i havent padded my score,YES i have been reported by none other than TEEARR...and without any investigation hitech took all my perk points and zeroed my score...I then called hitech and talked to the vice president there....he investigated and found i had not violated any rules or policies in aces high....he did tell me that since the scores were erased they could not put them back in the arena without resetting the entire arena,i told him this was roadkill.....hitech then apologized and admitted they had handled the matter incorrectly,as a show of GOOD faith they gave me 1000 perk points in each fighter,bomber,and ground  vehicle catagory....this was about 450 points in each category MORE than i had when they wiped my score.I told them i would rather have a score of 0 for the whole tour and every tour if this is how they run that company and game.  all points i accumulated prior to being wiped are still counted for the squadron.  i am not happy about this. and i guess  by them giving me extra perk points in each category is proof enough that i wasn't cheating...maybe they are trying to make it up to me or shut me up?..problem is i cant take a picture of that page and email to everyone in the game....i can to you if you want it for filing......its funny....because i have more perk points now for not cheating but now everyone thinks i was cheating.  so,as of now i do not monitor channel 200.  and what was really nice was how all my squadmates supported me through this.......oh wait,they didn't.   ALPINI13
 
 
HEY ALSO  this is an excerpt from hitechs letter:
Carrie has issued a $0.50 credit to your account, as per the conversation
you have with HiTech.  I will restore your perk points, but I need to ask if
you know what the amounts for the three categories were?  I cannot restore
the kills as that data is gone and I have no way to accurately installing it
again.

I would also like to apologize for my handling of this situation.  I could
have done it better.  Hindsight is a great thing.
MY PERKS WERE AT ABOUT 550 PLUS OR MINUS 50 IN EACH CATAGORY...IM GUESSING THE .50 CENT CREDIT WAS FOR ME MISSING A DAY WITHOUT ANY SCORE???......AND THAT REALLY GETS ME MAD....MY REPUTATION IS WORTH A WHOLE .50CENTS..........YEAH  .50 CENTS.     i will be at my fathers for about a week taking care of him due to his stroke,i will not be at this fridays FSO
 
so there it is.you all can
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Bear76 on September 11, 2010, 05:00:42 PM
Was done posting on this subject, bsince Alpini has other matters to deal with. and email was asked about. here it is.no i dont have a SHADE account,NO i havent padded my score,YES i have been reported by none other than TEEARR...and without any investigation hitech took all my perk points and zeroed my score...I then called hitech and talked to the vice president there....he investigated and found i had not violated any rules or policies in aces high....he did tell me that since the scores were erased they could not put them back in the arena without resetting the entire arena,i told him this was BULLtoejam.....hitech then apologized and admitted they had handled the matter incorrectly,as a show of GOOD faith they gave me 1000 perk points in each fighter,bomber,and ground  vehicle catagory....this was about 450 points in each category MORE than i had when they wiped my score.I told them i would rather have a score of 0 for the whole tour and every tour if this is how they run that company and game.  all points i accumulated prior to being wiped are still counted for the squadron.  i am not happy about this. and i guess  by them giving me extra perk points in each category is proof enough that i wasn't cheating...maybe they are trying to make it up to me or shut me up?..problem is i cant take a picture of that page and email to everyone in the game....i can to you if you want it for filing......its funny....because i have more perk points now for not cheating but now everyone thinks i was cheating.  so,as of now i do not monitor channel 200.  and what was really nice was how all my squadmates supported me through this.......oh wait,they didn't.   ALPINI13
 
 
HEY ALSO  this is an excerpt from hitechs letter:
Carrie has issued a $0.50 credit to your account, as per the conversation
you have with HiTech.  I will restore your perk points, but I need to ask if
you know what the amounts for the three categories were?  I cannot restore
the kills as that data is gone and I have no way to accurately installing it
again.

I would also like to apologize for my handling of this situation.  I could
have done it better.  Hindsight is a great thing.
MY PERKS WERE AT ABOUT 550 PLUS OR MINUS 50 IN EACH CATAGORY...IM GUESSING THE .50 CENT CREDIT WAS FOR ME MISSING A DAY WITHOUT ANY SCORE???......AND THAT REALLY GETS ME MAD....MY REPUTATION IS WORTH A WHOLE .50CENTS..........YEAH  .50 CENTS.     i will be at my fathers for about a week taking care of him due to his stroke,i will not be at this fridays FSO
 
so there it is.you all can

How does he know who reported him? HTC wouldn't reveal that? If he actually got a letter from HTC it would be easy to scan and post it for all to see. Otherwise it's just hearsay.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Becinhu on September 11, 2010, 05:18:28 PM
Not enough spelling errors to be from Hitech.  I call shenanigans.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Yeager on September 11, 2010, 05:30:15 PM
Another example of why score should simply be abolished.  It brings out the tard in people.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: MickDono on September 11, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
That many scousers with hands up must mean the cops are close.

haha   :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: DrBone1 on September 11, 2010, 06:19:23 PM
Micky you BBS dweeb  :D good one xbrit  :lol
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: mechanic on September 11, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
That many scousers with hands up must mean the cops are close.

 :lol
Only the fat or lazy scousers would not try to run first. Survival of the quickest up that neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 11, 2010, 09:02:52 PM
And I thought I was done posting as well.  I didn't report anybody.  One of my Squad mates Reported him based upon the number of times Butcher was shot down by Alpini13.  My name wasn't even mentioned in the E-mail to HiTech.  So, If this truly is Alpini13 writing in, He is lying.  He has lied before when he said he "posted" a YouTube video PROVING I was cheating, and even admitting to it.  All of which was false.  I can say this without fear of retribution for IF I had EVER cheated, (and ESPECIALLY with as much "proof" as Alpini13 said he had), I wouldn't have been playing AH, would I? 
People should note as well, that I have said NOTHING against the SwampDragons, or any of the other members of their squadron.  Someone should take Alpini13 to task on this whole thing, and his behavior in the past.   My guess is I will not be the last player to experience this pusillanimous and petty behavior from him.

TeeArr
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: BaldEagl on September 11, 2010, 10:42:47 PM
drfritz,  
     If you want confirmation, look up butchers stats for lw 127.  He was killed almost exclusively by alpini13.  There was one set of buffs which were killed by two other people.  Butcher did not kill anyone.  There is no suspicion in that only confirmation.


No doubt it's because the entire squad is participating in similar activity.  Otherwise there would be no reason to defend this so voraciously.

And this:

Was done posting on this subject, bsince Alpini has other matters to deal with. and email was asked about. here it is.no i dont have a SHADE account,NO i havent padded my score,YES i have been reported by none other than TEEARR...and without any investigation hitech took all my perk points and zeroed my score...I then called hitech and talked to the vice president there....he investigated and found i had not violated any rules or policies in aces high....he did tell me that since the scores were erased they could not put them back in the arena without resetting the entire arena,i told him this was BULLtoejam.....hitech then apologized and admitted they had handled the matter incorrectly,as a show of GOOD faith they gave me 1000 perk points in each fighter,bomber,and ground  vehicle catagory....this was about 450 points in each category MORE than i had when they wiped my score.I told them i would rather have a score of 0 for the whole tour and every tour if this is how they run that company and game.  all points i accumulated prior to being wiped are still counted for the squadron.  i am not happy about this. and i guess  by them giving me extra perk points in each category is proof enough that i wasn't cheating...maybe they are trying to make it up to me or shut me up?..problem is i cant take a picture of that page and email to everyone in the game....i can to you if you want it for filing......its funny....because i have more perk points now for not cheating but now everyone thinks i was cheating.  so,as of now i do not monitor channel 200.  and what was really nice was how all my squadmates supported me through this.......oh wait,they didn't.   ALPINI13
 
  
HEY ALSO  this is an excerpt from hitechs letter:
Carrie has issued a $0.50 credit to your account, as per the conversation
you have with HiTech.  I will restore your perk points, but I need to ask if
you know what the amounts for the three categories were?  I cannot restore
the kills as that data is gone and I have no way to accurately installing it
again.

I would also like to apologize for my handling of this situation.  I could
have done it better.  Hindsight is a great thing.
MY PERKS WERE AT ABOUT 550 PLUS OR MINUS 50 IN EACH CATAGORY...IM GUESSING THE .50 CENT CREDIT WAS FOR ME MISSING A DAY WITHOUT ANY SCORE???......AND THAT REALLY GETS ME MAD....MY REPUTATION IS WORTH A WHOLE .50CENTS..........YEAH  .50 CENTS.     i will be at my fathers for about a week taking care of him due to his stroke,i will not be at this fridays FSO
 
so there it is.you all can

... is a complete joke.  Alpini13 sends you an e-mail he typed, you swallow it hook line and sinker, then post the contents here as some sort of evidence?  Yikes!

I think you should change the name of the squad to Shade Dragons.  I mean really, I haven't killed the same guy over 130 times in two camps in almost 10 years here or 15 years playing WWII AC sims but you see nothing wrong in that, particularly considering that player wasn't killed by anyone else?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 11, 2010, 11:40:40 PM


Gullible is written on your ceiling.  Honest.  Take a look.

You do realize that alpine's encounters with this butcher fellow are statistically impossible to be ruled a coincidence?  One in a hundred bajillion.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: kilo2 on September 11, 2010, 11:48:02 PM
Swampdragons are a much different squad then when I was in them.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dmdchief on September 12, 2010, 10:37:42 AM
BALDEAGLE: SAID:I haven't killed the same guy over 130 times in two camps in almost 10 years here     NOW
I know that not to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth

YOU HAVE KILLED ME MORE THAN THAT, HE HE HE, one day way back you killed me like 20 times in just a few hours every time I got to A1 in my A5 you killed me, he he he

SALUTE, YOU OLD BIRD

AB8AAC/DMDCHIEF/AAC
OUT
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 13, 2010, 09:13:54 AM
Come on Swamp Dragons...defending this is beyond comprehension.

Changeup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: papjohns on September 13, 2010, 12:28:47 PM
Was done posting on this subject, bsince Alpini has other matters to deal with. and email was asked about. here it is.no i dont have a SHADE account,NO i havent padded my score,YES i have been reported by none other than TEEARR...and without any investigation hitech took all my perk points and zeroed my score...I then called hitech and talked to the vice president there....he investigated and found i had not violated any rules or policies in aces high....he did tell me that since the scores were erased they could not put them back in the arena without resetting the entire arena,i told him this was BULLtoejam.....hitech then apologized and admitted they had handled the matter incorrectly,as a show of GOOD faith they gave me 1000 perk points in each fighter,bomber,and ground  vehicle catagory....this was about 450 points in each category MORE than i had when they wiped my score.I told them i would rather have a score of 0 for the whole tour and every tour if this is how they run that company and game.  all points i accumulated prior to being wiped are still counted for the squadron.  i am not happy about this. and i guess  by them giving me extra perk points in each category is proof enough that i wasn't cheating...maybe they are trying to make it up to me or shut me up?..problem is i cant take a picture of that page and email to everyone in the game....i can to you if you want it for filing......its funny....because i have more perk points now for not cheating but now everyone thinks i was cheating.  so,as of now i do not monitor channel 200.  and what was really nice was how all my squadmates supported me through this.......oh wait,they didn't.   ALPINI13
 
  
HEY ALSO  this is an excerpt from hitechs letter:
Carrie has issued a $0.50 credit to your account, as per the conversation
you have with HiTech.  I will restore your perk points, but I need to ask if
you know what the amounts for the three categories were?  I cannot restore
the kills as that data is gone and I have no way to accurately installing it
again.

I would also like to apologize for my handling of this situation.  I could
have done it better.  Hindsight is a great thing.
MY PERKS WERE AT ABOUT 550 PLUS OR MINUS 50 IN EACH CATAGORY...IM GUESSING THE .50 CENT CREDIT WAS FOR ME MISSING A DAY WITHOUT ANY SCORE???......AND THAT REALLY GETS ME MAD....MY REPUTATION IS WORTH A WHOLE .50CENTS..........YEAH  .50 CENTS.     i will be at my fathers for about a week taking care of him due to his stroke,i will not be at this fridays FSO
 
so there it is.you all can


What's your e-mail address. I need to send you some information I gathered that shows me that you stand to inherit a large fortune......all that is needed is a small processing fee. By the way, I live in Nigeria... :devil
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 13, 2010, 12:36:06 PM

What's your e-mail address. I need to send you some information I gathered that shows me that you stand to inherit a large fortune......all that is needed is a small processing fee. By the way, I live in Nigeria... :devil

 :rofl  :aok
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: FBGrave on September 13, 2010, 12:45:01 PM
Since Hitech was introduced into the conversation....
I wonder if he will confirm drfritz posting ?

don't go where the road don't go.........
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 13, 2010, 01:25:10 PM
Was done posting on this subject, bsince Alpini has other matters to deal with. and email was asked about. here it is.no i dont have a SHADE account,NO i havent padded my score,YES i have been reported by none other than TEEARR...and without any investigation hitech took all my perk points and zeroed my score...I then called hitech and talked to the vice president there....he investigated and found i had not violated any rules or policies in aces high....he did tell me that since the scores were erased they could not put them back in the arena without resetting the entire arena,i told him this was BULLtoejam.....hitech then apologized and admitted they had handled the matter incorrectly,as a show of GOOD faith they gave me 1000 perk points in each fighter,bomber,and ground  vehicle catagory....this was about 450 points in each category MORE than i had when they wiped my score.I told them i would rather have a score of 0 for the whole tour and every tour if this is how they run that company and game.  all points i accumulated prior to being wiped are still counted for the squadron.  i am not happy about this. and i guess  by them giving me extra perk points in each category is proof enough that i wasn't cheating...maybe they are trying to make it up to me or shut me up?..problem is i cant take a picture of that page and email to everyone in the game....i can to you if you want it for filing......its funny....because i have more perk points now for not cheating but now everyone thinks i was cheating.  so,as of now i do not monitor channel 200.  and what was really nice was how all my squadmates supported me through this.......oh wait,they didn't.   ALPINI13
 
 
HEY ALSO  this is an excerpt from hitechs letter:
Carrie has issued a $0.50 credit to your account, as per the conversation
you have with HiTech.  I will restore your perk points, but I need to ask if
you know what the amounts for the three categories were?  I cannot restore
the kills as that data is gone and I have no way to accurately installing it
again.

I would also like to apologize for my handling of this situation.  I could
have done it better.  Hindsight is a great thing.
MY PERKS WERE AT ABOUT 550 PLUS OR MINUS 50 IN EACH CATAGORY...IM GUESSING THE .50 CENT CREDIT WAS FOR ME MISSING A DAY WITHOUT ANY SCORE???......AND THAT REALLY GETS ME MAD....MY REPUTATION IS WORTH A WHOLE .50CENTS..........YEAH  .50 CENTS.     i will be at my fathers for about a week taking care of him due to his stroke,i will not be at this fridays FSO
 
so there it is.you all can

Man, I have a really nice bridge to sell you in New York and some prime real estate in the Florida Everglades.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SIK1 on September 13, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
Was done posting on this subject, bsince Alpini has other matters to deal with. and email was asked about. here it is.no i dont have a SHADE account,NO i havent padded my score,YES i have been reported by none other than TEEARR...and without any investigation hitech took all my perk points and zeroed my score...I then called hitech and talked to the vice president there....he investigated and found i had not violated any rules or policies in aces high....he did tell me that since the scores were erased they could not put them back in the arena without resetting the entire arena,i told him this was BULLtoejam.....hitech then apologized and admitted they had handled the matter incorrectly,as a show of GOOD faith they gave me 1000 perk points in each fighter,bomber,and ground  vehicle catagory....this was about 450 points in each category MORE than i had when they wiped my score.I told them i would rather have a score of 0 for the whole tour and every tour if this is how they run that company and game.  all points i accumulated prior to being wiped are still counted for the squadron.  i am not happy about this. and i guess  by them giving me extra perk points in each category is proof enough that i wasn't cheating...maybe they are trying to make it up to me or shut me up?..problem is i cant take a picture of that page and email to everyone in the game....i can to you if you want it for filing......its funny....because i have more perk points now for not cheating but now everyone thinks i was cheating.  so,as of now i do not monitor channel 200.  and what was really nice was how all my squadmates supported me through this.......oh wait,they didn't.   ALPINI13
 
  
HEY ALSO  this is an excerpt from hitechs letter:
Carrie has issued a $0.50 credit to your account, as per the conversation
you have with HiTech.  I will restore your perk points, but I need to ask if
you know what the amounts for the three categories were?  I cannot restore
the kills as that data is gone and I have no way to accurately installing it
again.

I would also like to apologize for my handling of this situation.  I could
have done it better.  Hindsight is a great thing.
MY PERKS WERE AT ABOUT 550 PLUS OR MINUS 50 IN EACH CATAGORY...IM GUESSING THE .50 CENT CREDIT WAS FOR ME MISSING A DAY WITHOUT ANY SCORE???......AND THAT REALLY GETS ME MAD....MY REPUTATION IS WORTH A WHOLE .50CENTS..........YEAH  .50 CENTS.     i will be at my fathers for about a week taking care of him due to his stroke,i will not be at this fridays FSO
 
so there it is.you all can


 :confused:  :O   :(   :rolleyes:  :aok

Must be one big bull....
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: pervert on September 13, 2010, 01:30:08 PM

What's your e-mail address. I need to send you some information I gathered that shows me that you stand to inherit a large fortune......all that is needed is a small processing fee. By the way, I live in Nigeria... :devil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MTFauI8INY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MTFauI8INY)
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 13, 2010, 01:30:35 PM
Has anyone ever asked who DrFritz is?
Is he a registered player in AH2, or is he just another shade being used by Alpini13 or someone else?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: papjohns on September 13, 2010, 01:33:07 PM
Has anyone ever asked who DrFritz is?
Is he a registered player in AH2, or is he just another shade being used by Alpini13 or someone else?

I don't know who DrFritz is, but I am Butcher.  :O My services are for sale, I take paypal or money orders.  :devil In your request, please include location/time and desired altitude of my bomber sorties. First come first serve.

Disclaimer: No actual B17s/B24s/Lancaster are harmed when my services are provided. Furthermore, bridges are actually not for sale and I am actually not offering any of the above services. If you are gullible enough to believe any of this crap, to include random self-generated e-mails please seek immediate help.  
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Shuffler on September 13, 2010, 01:33:46 PM
Ocean front property in Arizona........
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 13, 2010, 02:40:58 PM
I don't know who DrFritz is, but I am Butcher.  :O My services are for sale, I take paypal or money orders.  :devil In your request, please include location/time and desired altitude of my bomber sorties. First come first serve.

Disclaimer: No actual B17s/B24s/Lancaster are harmed when my services are provided. Furthermore, bridges are actually not for sale and I am actually not offering any of the above services. If you are gullible enough to believe any of this crap, to include random self-generated e-mails please seek immediate help.  

Now.....wait just a damn minute pizzaboy.  Alpini has been paying me to be butcher for some time now and a pretty-penny it is...did you cut my price?? :O :lol

Changeup

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SunBat on September 13, 2010, 02:48:12 PM
I really don’t see what the big deal is.  I kill the same guy over and over every tour and nobody makes a big deal out of it.  His name is SunBat and he is sexy.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 13, 2010, 02:55:23 PM
I really don’t see what the big deal is.  I kill the same guy over and over every tour and nobody makes a big deal out of it.  His name is SunBat and he is sexy.

I don't know about Sunbat being sexy or any of that...but based on these avatars, Sunbat and Changeup have a date on Oct 2, 2010 at 2:30PM in the Cotton Bowl....the loser of that game owes the other 10 free, uncontested kills at 1000ft in the MA (winner names the date and the location and the loser has to fly a Stuka) + BEER, BURGERS and FRIES (no substitutions please). 

Boomer Sooner,

Changeup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dirtdart on September 13, 2010, 03:14:42 PM
Who is DrFritz, well if you count AOL AW he has been around for a while.... he flies under another name as some of who have been along for a while do.

I guess the donkeys out there have shifted from the swampys to now a guy sticking up for his squad.  This post sucks. 

Alpini is the subject.... yet some of you kids have morphed it into a flaming of a good squad and a guy who has been at this game for longer than some have been alive.  Should have been locked a while ago.  Where the hell is the mod? 

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Simon on September 13, 2010, 03:17:38 PM
LOL you guys have "Corozos" here too. Nice to see that it can get fleshed out in the forums, at least.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Yeager on September 13, 2010, 03:18:01 PM
Should have been locked a while ago.  Where the hell is the mod? 
solution for you: stop posting to the thread.  It helps it naturally die off the front page.  once a post gets to page two the chances of it being brought back to page one are considerably less.

just   stop    posting
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 13, 2010, 03:35:14 PM
Who is DrFritz, well if you count AOL AW he has been around for a while.... he flies under another name as some of who have been along for a while do.

I guess the donkeys out there have shifted from the swampys to now a guy sticking up for his squad.  This post sucks. 

Alpini is the subject.... yet some of you kids have morphed it into a flaming of a good squad and a guy who has been at this game for longer than some have been alive.  Should have been locked a while ago.  Where the hell is the mod? 



What was his CPID in AW? 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SunBat on September 13, 2010, 04:10:53 PM
I don't know about Sunbat being sexy or any of that...but based on these avatars, Sunbat and Changeup have a date on Oct 2, 2010 at 2:30PM in the Cotton Bowl....the loser of that game owes the other 10 free, uncontested kills at 1000ft in the MA (winner names the date and the location and the loser has to fly a Stuka) + BEER, BURGERS and FRIES (no substitutions please). 

Boomer Sooner,

Changeup

Deal.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dirtdart on September 13, 2010, 04:12:07 PM
Ack ack you kill me.... I just find it hard to believe that you take nothing said for its face value.  You always seek the deception without accepting the truth.  You would have been a great prosecutor in the Dreyfus case.  His CPID, none of your business, nor is his current one.  You can accept my comment as a statement of fact or not.  I have way to much concern for a former squadie than to enable you in any way.  My AW CPID was 1-325 in case you were wondering.  

It is amazing that I initially held your posts in esteem, because of your diligence.  Now all I am afraid all I see is bullying.  to you..... squelch.    
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 13, 2010, 04:17:29 PM
Deal.   :cheers:

Very Good sir...... :cheers:  Beer, Burgers and Fries will be payable the next time you come to the Dallas area, win or lose.  Geezus...I really don't want to get shot down by you 10 times in a row in a Stuka...

Changeup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: sky25 on September 13, 2010, 05:00:06 PM
I was reading this thread and had to check it out for myself.

I just went to Alpini13's stats. Wow this guy is good. He killed poor butcher alone 48 times.  Butcher must be a very bad pilot in bombers or just plain unlucky to get shot down that many times by Alpini13 in one month.. Alpini13 has to be one of the great 109, 190, and Flack  pilots in the game..

If I were Butcher, I would be learning SA and tail gunning skills.. Maybe Butcher should just give up playing when Alpini13 is on..

In August Alpini13 killed poor Butcher 48 times and some other players killed him 3 times. Butcher didn't land a single sortie. Butcher has to officially be the worst Aces High player ever.. Alpini13 was the only guy that killed him except for the 3 kills by the other guys...

Even a bad bomber pilot will get lucky and shoot down the plane that is attacking him.. How does one poor bomber pilot have such bad luck as to get shot down by the same guy on every sortie he ups on?

Butcher should join a squad. Oh Wait! He doesnt even play anymore.. He must have got tired of Alpini13 killing him every time he ups a bomber...

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Bear76 on September 13, 2010, 05:13:39 PM
Ack ack you kill me.... I just find it hard to believe that you take nothing said for its face value.  You always seek the deception without accepting the truth.  You would have been a great prosecutor in the Dreyfus case.  His CPID, none of your business, nor is his current one.  You can accept my comment as a statement of fact or not.  I have way to much concern for a former squadie than to enable you in any way.  My AW CPID was 1-325 in case you were wondering.  

It is amazing that I initially held your posts in esteem, because of your diligence.  Now all I am afraid all I see is bullying.  to you..... squelch.    


:lol He just asked what his CPID was, lighten up.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 13, 2010, 05:56:21 PM
Ack ack you kill me....    


If it smells it looks like crap, smells like crap and flies swarm around it like crap, guess what?  It's crap.  That's exactly what that "explanation" was from your squadron mate. 

Why is it crap?  Because if it was a mistake, this thread would have been locked like every thread like this when the community targeted the wrong person they thought was vulching a shade account.

Another reason why the email is nothing but crap?  Alpini13 was on channel 200 saying he didn't care if he got reported for vulching a shade account because in his own little squeaker words, "everyone else does it!".  Yeah, HiTech made a mistake...sounds like your squadron made a mistake instead when you let this tool join and continue to make one defending said tool.

ack-ack

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: oTRALFZo on September 13, 2010, 06:03:39 PM
Who is DrFritz, well if you count AOL AW he has been around for a while.... he flies under another name as some of who have been along for a while do.

I guess the donkeys out there have shifted from the swampys to now a guy sticking up for his squad.  This post sucks. 

Alpini is the subject.... yet some of you kids have morphed it into a flaming of a good squad and a guy who has been at this game for longer than some have been alive.  Should have been locked a while ago.  Where the hell is the mod? 


I wouldn't worry about it too much. SD's are a really good bunch of people and I know they will bounce back. Community lynchings are harsh when dealing with this subject and rightfully so. It completely destroys the integrity of the game.
I by no means play this game for score or stats. I fly for fun and escape. I do realize though that there is a group of people that find their fun in trying to improve their score and stats the honest way.  
They have every right to complain when someone is using an easier method for the same goal and not playing within the parameters of the game.

The way I see it, Swampdragons have two choices. 1) Ignore the flames here on the bbs and hope this thread gets put to rest soon with Alpini still in the roster. or 2) Have the SDs make Alpini give these guys an apology.
I recommend #2 for the quickest way to put this to rest. We all make mistakes.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 13, 2010, 07:05:14 PM



Another reason why the email is nothing but crap?  Alpini13 was on channel 200 saying he didn't care if he got reported for vulching a shade account because in his own little squeaker words, "everyone else does it!".  Yeah, HiTech made a mistake...sounds like your squadron made a mistake instead when you let this tool join and continue to make one defending said tool.

ack-ack




Ack-Ack is absolutely right. I can corroborate that Alpini13 did say "Everyone else does it", as he was saying it to me.
I may even have a snapshot of it.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SHawk on September 13, 2010, 07:17:44 PM
Was done posting on this subject, but since Alpini/apini13/Butcher has to wait until his balls drop to deal with this. An email was asked about. Here it is the exact Email exactly as Alpini typed it to me.
   I freakin rule AH now by totally owning my SHADE account, padding my score, and YES i have a problem with punctuation and capitalization. I got reported by none other than TEEARR...and in 5 minutes of investigation hitech discovered I was a cheating Piece of DoDo and took all my perk points and zeroed my score...I then called hitech and talked to the vice president there....he investigated and found i had violated many rules or policies in aces high....he did tell me that since I was a cheating piece of DoDo my scores were erased they would not put them back in the arena.  When I told him this was BULLtoejam.....hitech then laughed a Santa Laugh and admitted they had handled the matter correctly. I then begged them for my perk points back in each fighter,bomber,and ground  vehicle category....this was about 450 points in each category. I told them i would rather have a score of 0 for the whole tour and every tour if this is how they run that company and game, so they gave me my wish. Without asking my Mom, I borrowed her Credit Card and started another shade account and pissed off the entire arena.  All points I accumulated prior to being wiped are still counted for the squadron, so defend my sorry butt even though you know I'm a low life punk.  I am not happy about this, and I guess by Vulching my new shade account for extra perk points in each category I can build up enough to replace the ones I lost. I was cheating...maybe they are trying to make me shut up?..problem is i cant take a picture of that page and email to everyone in the game because it doesn't really exist....I can create one to send to you if you want it for filing......its funny....because I have more perk points now for cheating but now everyone knows I was cheating.  So,as of now I do not monitor channel 200 because I'm a lame coward loser.  And what was really nice was how all my squadmates supported me through this.......oh wait,they didn't.   ALPINI13



Fixed :D
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: crazyivan on September 13, 2010, 08:22:43 PM
.. Maybe Butcher should just give up playing when Alpini13 is on..

  That sounds like a good idea! :aok
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Jouster on September 13, 2010, 08:31:02 PM
Swampdragons are a much different squad then when I was in them.

I've been with the S/D's since almost its inception, sorry this is O/T but since you shot me down the other day, what was your ID back then? just curious.

my AW id was turkeyshoot. I've been a numbers guy then Jouster since the two week trial. Obviously all S/D's cheat, I mean look at my amazing score. I consistently rank in the low four digits every month (except for the last several)

Re: Alpini, Doc, thanks for sticking up for him here. We require proof beyond a shadow of a doubt against a squadmate before we go ahead and throw in with popular opinion. We are handling this internally, but do appreciate all the super awesome input.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 13, 2010, 08:47:10 PM
We require proof beyond a shadow of a doubt against a squadmate

LMAO.

There's a reason alpine had his stats deleted last tour and unfortunately you cannot access them now.  Having been the person that started this thread, let me clue you in to some of the highlights: D9 stats were something like: Total Kills 120: Kills on Butcher: 100 (!)

There were assorted other planes where all he did was shade kill butcher.  Tanks as well iirc.

I also pulled up butcher's stats and he had been shot down anywhere from 150-200 times.  >95-98% of the time coming from the guns of alpine13.  If that isn't considered "shadow of a doubt", then OJ was innocent.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 13, 2010, 08:52:44 PM
If that isn't considered "shadow of a doubt", then OJ was innocent.

Now that you've brought up OJ in this thread (kudos by the way for working it in someway), you know alpini13 will now use the infamous Chewbacca Defense.

(http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/chewbaccadefense.jpg)


ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: savage33 on September 13, 2010, 09:48:52 PM
i really think this has gone far enough in my opinion SD are the best bunch guys Ive ever had the privilege to fly with i can say without a doubt that cheating is not what we do Ive been with this squad for a while now and Ive honestly seen nothing but team work and honer I'm sure all of you do as well but i ques what I'm saying is it is our squad and if there is some one being shady and it has been prooven with no doubt then that person will be delt with a swift punishment but it is Innocent till found guilty so let it go trust in our Co's and hope to see yall in the arena <S> :cheers:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: grizz441 on September 13, 2010, 09:50:27 PM
but it is Innocent till found guilty

I agree.

We the jury, find the defendant, alpine13, guilty on all charges.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: choker41 on September 13, 2010, 09:57:55 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: USRanger on September 13, 2010, 10:12:32 PM
Quote
I then called hitech and talked to the vice president there....

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:HptV2UdUNcA41M:http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/sindlinger/20000000s-undated-Biden.gif&t=1) Hey!  Leave me out of this!
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: cutter56 on September 14, 2010, 12:09:05 AM
The matter of Alpini13 is being addressed by Slayem and myself as we speak. I spoke to Roy at HTC & he told me that their was some sort of shady business going on and that they had handled it from their end. As far as what we do to him is strictly up to us as a squad.As far as the rest of the squad you all will soon see how we deal with any form of cheating no matter how it's done. We are a fair squad, to be dealt with on the up & up and when we kick all their bellybutton it's done without cheating of any sort. There will be no shade accounts, padding of scores, no changing sides to Rooks or Knights just because the #s are more to your liking. WE are a Bishop squad ONLY and if you think because you pay your monthly HTC bill that you can fly any side you wish then click eject and fine another squad who don't care what side you fly for. End of message:

Brigadier General Cutter 56
Bomber Commander &
Information Officer
for the SwampDragons
 http://www.wix.com/Swampdragons/Swampdragons
       
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SIK1 on September 14, 2010, 12:38:00 AM
The matter of Alpini13 is being addressed by Slayem and myself as we speak. I spoke to Roy at HTC & he told me that their was some sort of shady business going on and that they had handled it from their end. As far as what we do to him is strictly up to us as a squad.As far as the rest of the squad you all will soon see how we deal with any form of cheating no matter how it's done. We are a fair squad, to be dealt with on the up & up and when we kick all their bellybutton it's done without cheating of any sort. There will be no shade accounts, padding of scores, no changing sides to Rooks or Knights just because the #s are more to your liking. WE are a Bishop squad ONLY and if you think because you pay your monthly HTC bill that you can fly any side you wish then click eject and fine another squad who don't care what side you fly for. End of message:

Brigadier General Cutter 56
Bomber Commander &
Information Officer
for the SwampDragons
 http://www.wix.com/Swampdragons/Swampdragons
       

You think switching sides is cheating?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: crazyivan on September 14, 2010, 08:20:28 AM
Hes's addressing the situation  SIK.  Bought time someone sticks up for the squad. Without blah blah who is this guy blah.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 14, 2010, 09:05:48 AM
The matter of Alpini13 is being addressed by Slayem and myself as we speak. I spoke to Roy at HTC & he told me that their was some sort of shady business going on and that they had handled it from their end. As far as what we do to him is strictly up to us as a squad.As far as the rest of the squad you all will soon see how we deal with any form of cheating no matter how it's done. We are a fair squad, to be dealt with on the up & up and when we kick all their bellybutton it's done without cheating of any sort. There will be no shade accounts, padding of scores, no changing sides to Rooks or Knights just because the #s are more to your liking. WE are a Bishop squad ONLY and if you think because you pay your monthly HTC bill that you can fly any side you wish then click eject and fine another squad who don't care what side you fly for. End of message:

Brigadier General Cutter 56
Bomber Commander &
Information Officer
for the SwampDragons
 http://www.wix.com/Swampdragons/Swampdragons
       

Outstanding....what is Alpini's status at this point?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: IrishOne on September 14, 2010, 09:35:49 AM
When do I get a Soup signature?


NO SOUP FOR YOO!!!!
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 14, 2010, 09:40:04 AM
Obviously Slayem and Cutter have it under control as far as their squad goes.  The rest of us should let them handle it internally.
No matter what we as a group think of Alpini13, He isn't the entirety of the Swampdragons, nor was he their leader responsible for their actions.  I know we all hope that if we were to find ourselves in a jam, we would want the same consideration given to us by our squad.  This thread is about Alpini13 and his misconduct, (I would have said cheating, but there is rule #7).  Let the dust settle before we cast aspersions about other members and or squads.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 14, 2010, 11:10:47 AM
Fixed :D
:rofl :rofl :lol :aok     Go SHawk!   :rock   :banana:   :bolt:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: SIK1 on September 14, 2010, 11:45:54 AM
Hes's addressing the situation  SIK.  Bought time someone sticks up for the squad. Without blah blah who is this guy blah.

Maybe so, but does the squad really look at switching sides as cheating. From cutter56's post he makes it sound like switching sides is just as bad as killing a shade.
As far as the rest of the squad you all will soon see how we deal with any form of cheating no matter how it's done. We are a fair squad, to be dealt with on the up & up and when we kick all their bellybutton it's done without cheating of any sort. There will be no shade accounts, padding of scores, no changing sides

I will never understand the asinine chess piece loyalty some people in this game have. Switching sides is not cheating and in fact can be good for the game.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: FLOTSOM on September 14, 2010, 12:16:09 PM
Maybe so, but does the squad really look at switching sides as cheating. From cutter56's post he makes it sound like switching sides is just as bad as killing a shade.
I will never understand the asinine chess piece loyalty some people in this game have. Switching sides is not cheating and in fact can be good for the game.

the game is designed to encourage side switching to balance numbers. i.e. the eny. the fact that some squads take issue with playing the game as it is designed to be played and trying to keep the sides balanced for the maximum challenge and fun for the majority of players seems to me not only counter productive to game play and flow, but just down right retarded.

so i guess that any squad with a standard that allegations of shade shooting (supported by the record and eye witnesses) must be contemplated by the powers that be within the squad to see if it reaches the level of disgraceful behavior worthy of squad action, but side switching for game balance and fun is an immediate actionable offence by the squad, just shows the level of standards of gamesmanship held by the squad in question.

when a squad or an individual has standards that, to the general public, are so distorted and unfathomable, then it is clearly a waste of time and effort for anyone to consider discussing the matter further with the squad in question.

so for my part, in protest to this unfathomable behavior of both Alpini13 and the SD's at large, i will continue with renewed earnest to switch sides as often as possible and prudent for fun and game play, and to continue to deny the urges i have to open up multiple shade accounts so that i may use them to up planes and vehicles that i would shoot down and pad my score with.

sorry to all who would disagree with me, but although they may not be very high, i must maintain some level of standards.

Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: doc1kelley on September 14, 2010, 12:23:55 PM
the game is designed to encourage side switching to balance numbers. i.e. the eny. the fact that some squads take issue with playing the game as it is designed to be played and trying to keep the sides balanced for the maximum challenge and fun for the majority of players seems to me not only counter productive to game play and flow, but just down right retarded.


The game was NOT designed to encourage side switching to balance numbers as you referenced with your statement about implementation of "ENY", it is a false perception.  ENY was implemented long after the game had been online and in fact, years after it had been designed.  I don't believe Cutter's post regarding this was meant for the general audience, but as one of their squad rules that would result in action against one of their squad members and it's their right.  I do not believe that he intended it to be considered among the defination of the dreaded "C-WORD".  Whether you think it is right or wrong is in fact irrevelant.

All the Best...

    Jay


Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: greens on September 14, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
I switch whenever i wanna, roll with whoever i wanna, smoke with whoever i wanna, kill whoever i wanna, invite whoever i wanna  :aok. sid eswitching is NOT cheating, i kill squaddies sumtimes when i am on a diff country  :D but it is not cheating <1 or 2 sorties ill duel squaddies on diff sides>.  Quuyaanaa
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: cutter56 on September 14, 2010, 12:51:47 PM
You think switching sides is cheating?  :headscratch:

Maybe not to some, but it's something we DO NOT DO as a squad. For some of us it is (cheating # 7) or should I say spying. One person changes sides lets say Rooks to Knights then they P.M.or voice chats with his squad and tells them where there are CVs or if there is a mission taking off. That person flys in that mission and the whole time he is telling his squad where they are and where their attacking.......not fair and it should be stoped.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Soulyss on September 14, 2010, 12:55:10 PM
Maybe not to some, but it's something we DO NOT DO as a squad. For some of us it is (cheating # 7) or should I say spying. One person changes sides lets say Rooks to Knights then they P.M.or voice chats with his squad and tells them where there are CVs or if there is a mission taking off. That person flys in that mission and the whole time he is telling his squad where they are and where their attacking.......not fair and it should be stoped.

What about those who switch sides and don't do those things?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: FLOTSOM on September 14, 2010, 12:55:35 PM
i kill squaddies sumtimes when i am on a diff country

hahahahahahaha after a 1 year leave of absence my first real kill was my squaddie Irish  :x course that was 10 minutes after he had killed me first  :furious :furious that bastage!!!!!!!

and further to this point, as i am now and have always been the worst pileeet in the Muppet's, when i get a squaddies name in lights cause i shot him down i revel in the moment and rub it in by reminding them that i killed them every moment possible.  :devil :neener: :devil

The game was NOT designed to encourage side switching to balance numbers as you referenced with your statement about implementation of "ENY", it is a false perception.  ENY was implemented long after the game had been online and in fact, years after it had been designed.  I don't believe Cutter's post regarding this was meant for the general audience, but as one of their squad rules that would result in action against one of their squad members and it's their right.  I do not believe that he intended it to be considered among the defination of the dreaded "C-WORD".  Whether you think it is right or wrong is in fact irrevelant.

All the Best...

    Jay




Jay

i did not state that eny was an original part of the game. my statement was one of the current value not one of history or the creation of the original game code. that is merely a side issue of no relevant value and serves no purpose in this discussion.

the fact remains that the guidelines of the squad, as cutter himself posted, are clear that side switching is viewed as a lowly and unforgivable offence equal to, if not greater an offence than shade shooting. this is discernible from cutters statement as it is the only offence that is specifically treated as a GET OUT of the SQUAD if this is the way you want to play offence. "WE are a Bishop squad ONLY and if you think because you pay your monthly HTC bill that you can fly any side you wish then click eject and fine another squad who don't care what side you fly for. End of message:"

so Jay, as i have always enjoyed reading your posts in the past and in most cases tend to agree with the things you say, i will agree to disagree with you on this matter and refrain from arguing with you futher.

 :salute to you sir.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: doc1kelley on September 14, 2010, 01:15:08 PM

Jay

i did not state that eny was an original part of the game. my statement was one of the current value not one of history or the creation of the original game code. that is merely a side issue of no relevant value and serves no purpose in this discussion.

the fact remains that the guidelines of the squad, as cutter himself posted, are clear that side switching is viewed as a lowly and unforgivable offence equal to, if not greater an offence than shade shooting. this is discernible from cutters statement as it is the only offence that is specifically treated as a GET OUT of the SQUAD if this is the way you want to play offence. "WE are a Bishop squad ONLY and if you think because you pay your monthly HTC bill that you can fly any side you wish then click eject and fine another squad who don't care what side you fly for. End of message:"

so Jay, as i have always enjoyed reading your posts in the past and in most cases tend to agree with the things you say, i will agree to disagree with you on this matter and refrain from arguing with you futher.

 :salute to you sir.
<S> Float old bud,

I guess I misunderstood as I had believed that you were stating that side switching was conceived from the start as an integral part of the game.  My apologizes!  The ban on squad switching rule for a lot of squads has been in effect much longer than AcesHigh and was common among some squads back in AirWarrior. I won't pass any judgement on any squad that has that rule as it's just not my right or business.  I do agree about what Cutter has stated about the spying aspect and I have NO respect for spies but just accept the fact that we will have them and it's just part of the game.  I realize that we all at times just take this game way too seriously!  You know that I've been around for years and rarely post and usually just short and to the point and sometimes just don't really express what I've written in a more diplomatic form and for that I apologize as I didn't mean for my post to you to start an arguement.  Sometimes I just wish that I could keep my fingers shut. heheheh

All the Best...

   Jay
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: FLOTSOM on September 14, 2010, 01:20:30 PM
<S> Float old bud,

I guess I misunderstood as I had believed that you were stating that side switching was conceived from the start as an integral part of the game.  My apologizes!  The ban on squad switching rule for a lot of squads has been in effect much longer than AcesHigh and was common among some squads back in AirWarrior. I won't pass any judgement on any squad that has that rule as it's just not my right or business.  I do agree about what Cutter has stated about the spying aspect and I have NO respect for spies but just accept the fact that we will have them and it's just part of the game.  I realize that we all at times just take this game way too seriously!  You know that I've been around for years and rarely post and usually just short and to the point and sometimes just don't really express what I've written in a more diplomatic form and for that I apologize as I didn't mean for my post to you to start an arguement.  Sometimes I just wish that I could keep my fingers shut. heheheh

All the Best...

   Jay

<<S>> and agreed! my fingers never know when to shut the F*** UP!  :D
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: greens on September 14, 2010, 01:21:19 PM
Maybe not to some, but it's something we DO NOT DO as a squad. For some of us it is (cheating # 7) or should I say spying. One person changes sides lets say Rooks to Knights then they P.M.or voice chats with his squad and tells them where there are CVs or if there is a mission taking off. That person flys in that mission and the whole time he is telling his squad where they are and where their attacking.......not fair and it should be stoped.
:headscratch: so.......i am an eskimo and i know white mans language well but uh.........whats "stoped" mean  :huh
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Shuffler on September 14, 2010, 01:36:01 PM
Maybe not to some, but it's something we DO NOT DO as a squad. For some of us it is (cheating # 7) or should I say spying. One person changes sides lets say Rooks to Knights then they P.M.or voice chats with his squad and tells them where there are CVs or if there is a mission taking off. That person flys in that mission and the whole time he is telling his squad where they are and where their attacking.......not fair and it should be stoped.

Not everyone is like you or your squad. If you see the 80th on 2 sides, we are likely fighting eachother. We generally fly on the same side but if we need to switch to even teams and someone can't move over yet, then our group may be on 2 teams for a bit.

We have folks who can fly on 2 sides and not exchange info. We fly for the side we are one no matter what side that may be.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 14, 2010, 01:38:50 PM
:headscratch: so.......i am an eskimo and i know white mans language well but uh.........whats "stoped" mean  :huh
:huh  hint --> :banana:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Masherbrum on September 14, 2010, 01:50:31 PM
:huh  hint --> :banana:

 :rofl


and piss on Alpini13.   
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 14, 2010, 01:50:37 PM
The game was NOT designed to encourage side switching to balance numbers as you referenced with your statement about implementation of "ENY", it is a false perception.  ENY was implemented long after the game had been online and in fact, years after it had been designed.  I don't believe Cutter's post regarding this was meant for the general audience, but as one of their squad rules that would result in action against one of their squad members and it's their right.  I do not believe that he intended it to be considered among the defination of the dreaded "C-WORD".  Whether you think it is right or wrong is in fact irrevelant.

All the Best...

    Jay




You have always had the ability ti switch sides, therefore the game was designed with the idea of being able to switch sides to help balance the number or a myriad of other reasons why.  The later implemention of the ENY was just an additional tool to help encourage side switching.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 14, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
Im out of popcorn...

Changeup
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: cutter56 on September 14, 2010, 02:14:53 PM
Damn....... I bet the Germans & the Japs wish they could have switched sides back near the end of WW II ....lol But it didn't happen, and they got their " we will rule the world " bellybutton kicked. So it was and so it shell be. :airplane:.....
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Bear76 on September 14, 2010, 02:15:34 PM
Maybe not to some, but it's something we DO NOT DO as a squad. For some of us it is (cheating # 7) or should I say spying. One person changes sides lets say Rooks to Knights then they P.M.or voice chats with his squad and tells them where there are CVs or if there is a mission taking off. That person flys in that mission and the whole time he is telling his squad where they are and where their attacking.......not fair and it should be stoped.

That's just lack of character and has nothing to do with why most people switch. You must not have much faith in your squaddies.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 14, 2010, 02:16:59 PM
Damn....... I bet the Germans & the Japs wish they could have switched sides back near the end of WW II ....lol But it didn't happen, and they got their " we will rule the world " bellybutton kicked. So it was and so it shell be. :airplane:.....

In case you don't have a clue yet, this game isn't a recreation of World War II. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Babalonian on September 14, 2010, 02:33:24 PM
In case you don't have a clue yet, this game isn't a recreation of World War II. 


ack-ack

What were the requirements again for consideration into the plane set for a new plane in this game?
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: waystin2 on September 14, 2010, 02:37:44 PM
What were the requirements again for consideration into the plane set for a new plane in this game?

Requirement #1-Does Babalon like it?  :D
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Shuffler on September 14, 2010, 02:42:40 PM
Damn....... I bet the Germans & the Japs wish they could have switched sides back near the end of WW II ....lol But it didn't happen, and they got their " we will rule the world " bellybutton kicked. So it was and so it shell be. :airplane:.....


Bet they wished they could have had some of our planes too.....   :rofl


Some germans and japs did switch sides.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Babalonian on September 14, 2010, 02:49:07 PM
Requirement #1-Does Babalon like it?  :D

No, no, no... I have to LOVE it!@
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 14, 2010, 02:58:58 PM
No, no, no... I have to LOVE it!@
:lol
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: ImADot on September 14, 2010, 03:02:57 PM
In case you don't have a clue yet, this game isn't a recreation of World War II. 
What were the requirements again for consideration into the plane set for a new plane in this game?

It's a combat game based on WWII aircraft and vehicles.


Maybe not to some, but it's something we DO NOT DO as a squad. For some of us it is (cheating # 7) or should I say spying. One person changes sides lets say Rooks to Knights then they P.M.or voice chats with his squad and tells them where there are CVs or if there is a mission taking off. That person flys in that mission and the whole time he is telling his squad where they are and where their attacking.......not fair and it should be stoped.

Tell them to stop giving information, and don't act on any information given (unless you have issues with not being able to act responsibly).  If they're on your squad, you have more control since you can kick them out.  If it's some turd all you need to do is ignore them.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: FLOTSOM on September 14, 2010, 03:14:40 PM
  If it's some turd all you need to do is ignore them.

actually if its know who is spying then post their name on 200, the risk of exposure is normally enough to keep most spies mouths shut!!! and if that doesnt deter them then the rest of the people around them will surely make their flying difficult. i have managed to make more than one putz killshoot himself on my donut by buzzing him while he was firing at a red guy.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 14, 2010, 03:18:36 PM
LOL, now thats how ya do it  :banana:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Masherbrum on September 14, 2010, 03:21:13 PM
Damn....... I bet the Germans & the Japs wish they could have switched sides back near the end of WW II ....lol But it didn't happen, and they got their " we will rule the world " bellybutton kicked. So it was and so it shell be. :airplane:.....

....and the Germans used Chevies and Fords as transports.   Shhhhhh.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dirtdart on September 14, 2010, 03:21:29 PM
How many pages did the hijack the CVs so I can go bomb them thread go?  Just wondering if this crew felt the same way about that theme.  I personally think it about the same, rule 7 vs rule 7.  Some of you just thought of it as gaming the game.  Time to contrast what you said on that with what you said on this one I suppose.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: doc1kelley on September 14, 2010, 03:23:07 PM
You have always had the ability ti switch sides, therefore the game was designed with the idea of being able to switch sides to help balance the number or a myriad of other reasons why.  The later implemention of the ENY was just an additional tool to help encourage side switching.


ack-ack

Ack-Ack <S>,

You've missed my point entirely!  I just stated that the game was not designed to switch sides with "ENY" in mind, as the "ENY" factor was not really present in the early days of the game.  You and I know that in the early days of the game that it just wasn't needed as fights were more honorable and fair.

All the Best...

    Jay
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Shuffler on September 14, 2010, 04:14:06 PM
Ack-Ack <S>,

You've missed my point entirely!  I just stated that the game was not designed to switch sides with "ENY" in mind, as the "ENY" factor was not really present in the early days of the game.  You and I know that in the early days of the game that it just wasn't needed as fights were more honorable and fair.

All the Best...

    Jay


The switching sides was designed to even teams. Has nothing to do with ENY which came much later.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: oTRALFZo on September 14, 2010, 05:07:32 PM
Maybe not to some, but it's something we DO NOT DO as a squad. For some of us it is (cheating # 7) or should I say spying. One person changes sides lets say Rooks to Knights then they P.M.or voice chats with his squad and tells them where there are CVs or if there is a mission taking off. That person flys in that mission and the whole time he is telling his squad where they are and where their attacking.......not fair and it should be stoped.
Statements like this are made out of flat out ignorance. Because you choose to play the game a certain way (which from my guess is you like to gain more real estate being that you are pretty heated by CV locations and others ratting out your NOE missions). But you think EVERYONE plays the game that way.

People switch sides. I can assure you that 99.9999% of the people that do could care less on what the state of the map is, cv locations etc. Yes occasionally you get that 1 or 2 tools that do switch for the wrong reasons, but you shouldnt make the accusation that your unpatriotic scum if you do switch.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Slash27 on September 14, 2010, 05:08:50 PM
Statements like this are made out of flat out ignorance. Because you choose to play the game a certain way (which from my guess is you like to gain more real estate being that you are pretty heated by CV locations and others ratting out your NOE missions). But you think EVERYONE plays the game that way.

People switch sides. I can assure you that 99.9999% of the people that do could care less on what the state of the map is, cv locations etc. Yes occasionally you get that 1 or 2 tools that do switch for the wrong reasons, but you shouldnt make the accusation that your unpatriotic scum if you do switch.

Stop making sense!
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: FLOTSOM on September 14, 2010, 05:59:22 PM
Stop making sense!

i agree Slash!!! it is soooooo hard to look at TRALFZ as mere unpatriotic scum when he goes and makes sence like that!!!!
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: mechanic on September 14, 2010, 09:39:42 PM
players who lose ports and then hide the CV far from any chance of combat deserve to have spies locate them.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Masherbrum on September 14, 2010, 10:00:02 PM
players who lose ports and then hide the CV far from any chance of combat deserve to have spies locate them.


Agree.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: BaldEagl on September 14, 2010, 10:52:25 PM
Three items to address:

1.  ENY has been here as long as I have (2001).  It was implemented immediately or at least nearly so so you could earn perks for perk rides.  The use of ENY to address side imbalance was implemented much later.  It's funny how no one ever remembers ENY's original purpose.

2.  So the Swamp Dragons have an internal rule against side switching.  So be it.  It's their right.  I can understand why too considering all the accusations of spying (whether true or not).  If they wish to simply avoid such accusations that's up to them.  There's plenty of other side-switchers in the game so them not doing it doesn't hurt anything.

3.  Being a Bish and the Swamp Dragons being Bish I have to say I don't really pay attention to who's in what squad.  I just go play.  It's not important to me.  I've played around cutter a lot.  I'm surprised that, given the overwhelming amount of evidence, that they are still "working on it".  The evidence makes a decision a no-brainer if you ask me.  What's there to consider?  That leads to my real #3.  What about all the squaddies who posted in defending Alpini13?  It's obvious by some of the posts they have no problems with this evidence against their squaddie.  How will you deal with this "guilt be association"?

We'll see where this all ends up.  Having once been CO of a 60 person squad in AW I know exactly what I'd do and it wouldn't involve hemming and hawing.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 15, 2010, 06:47:01 AM
players who lose ports and then hide the CV far from any chance of combat deserve to have spies locate them.

Agree.
:aok  :noid
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: rvflyer on September 15, 2010, 11:20:40 AM
Damn....... I bet the Germans & the Japs wish they could have switched sides back near the end of WW II ....lol But it didn't happen, and they got their " we will rule the world " bellybutton kicked. So it was and so it shell be. :airplane:.....

Can they play on their own at any time? What if they go to EW and find tbat it is 8 to 2 is it not prmitted to switch to low numbered is that against squad rules? To me that is half the fun in early and mid war, going to low numbered side and trying to defend against base takers.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 15, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
Can they play on their own at any time? What if they go to EW and find tbat it is 8 to 2 is it not prmitted to switch to low numbered is that against squad rules? To me that is half the fun in early and mid war, going to low numbered side and trying to defend against base takers.
Thats the only reason i fly EW or MW, great fun to be found and you learn your strenghts and weaknesses in tough spots.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: dmdchief on September 15, 2010, 06:55:15 PM
You know what I don't get the thing about not switching sides some in the squad I am in right now get all worked up about it.  I have friend in all the countries and I sometimes switch just to go fly with them and if a plane is red in front of me I try my best to kill it.  I have never and would never get on a private channel and tell my squadies what the other country is up to, it is a matter of honor with me.  Besides we get a kick out of killing one another when someone is over on the other side, then the PM's dooooo fly, he he he, I KILLED YOUR BUT HE HE HE.

I have never been accused of spying though as I always jump in and help out if a fellow country man is in trouble no matter what, so I just dont get why such a big deal is made out of it.

Just my opinion
SALUTE
ab8aac/dmdchief/aac
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 16, 2010, 01:47:39 PM
Getting back to the original Thread, I just noticed that Alpini13 is no longer a Swampdragon.  Whether or not he has the nerve to fly in any of the arenas I guess has yet to be seen.  What a tool!
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Masherbrum on September 16, 2010, 02:51:10 PM
Getting back to the original Thread, I just noticed that Alpini13 is no longer a Swampdragon.  Whether or not he has the nerve to fly in any of the arenas I guess has yet to be seen.  What a tool!

You'll be missed Majah!    :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 16, 2010, 05:20:19 PM
Getting back to the original Thread, I just noticed that Alpini13 is no longer a Swampdragon.  Whether or not he has the nerve to fly in any of the arenas I guess has yet to be seen.  What a tool!
Just logged into Blue, Guess who's name starts with A and is logged in?  Yes to answer your question TA, he's still flying
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 16, 2010, 07:53:16 PM
What stones he has!  He could probably start all over if he had apologized and admitted he was wrong.
Well, He's your problem now...LOL
TeeArr
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 16, 2010, 10:06:28 PM
his score is still around 200...hmm..mostly damage though.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: slayem on September 17, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
  This post is just a response to those wondering on the Swampdragons position on this matter. We have a policy
 to fly bish only so that when we fight and win there is no doubt it is done fairly. We dont side swap to spy,find cv's
 or missions, or pad scores. We know many people swap side for many reasons other than cheating. More power to them. We fly regularly with the Drunken Monkeys and others that do and count them as freinds. We have guys with
dual accounts (Hymi and Hymi jr.) but they both are Swampdragons and fly bish. They are a father and son and are both great pilots who dont need to cheat to win. Jr hasn't played much lately due to school/football/girls. Can't blame the young fellow for that.
 The pilot in question in this incident has been removed from flight status with us after a review of the situation.
 The reason it took so long is he had a family illness that called him away as this broke. I am the C.O. of the
 Swampdragons and there are some things I believe even an accused man deserves, like a chance to defend himself.
 I've been waiting to give him a chance to respond before we took action but no response has been received about
 squad violations. Since squad honor is at stake I am left with no choice but to revoke flight status. I'm sorry that the same sense of fairness that we extend to even our foes has set so many drama queens aflutter. To those who stood by us, thank you. :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: TeeArr on September 17, 2010, 10:40:08 AM
Well said, Slayem.    :salute
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 17, 2010, 11:25:26 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: choker41 on September 17, 2010, 01:53:51 PM
What stones he has!  He could probably start all over if he had apologized and admitted he was wrong.
Well, He's your problem now...LOL
TeeArr

He showed up yesterday on squad channel and never said a word.  I was on my way out the door and notice he was on channel.  It sure would be appropriate of him to just come clean and admit what he did was wrong and own up to it.  I would even like for him to apologize to his former squad for putting us all through this.  I'm sure that will never happen and I certainly won't miss him at all.  I hope he jumps to Rooks or Knights so we can all enjoy shooting him down.  So please Alpini do me a favor and switch sides.  I used to love shooting you down when I was a Knight.   :salute to all who stood by the Swampdragons.  It's been killing me to respond in this thread and was waiting for the generals to respond first.  I thought this should be handled internally first then flame the guy later.  And to think he questioned my integrity for switching chess pieces to fly with a great squad such as the Swampdragons.  Who's integrity is in question now bud?   :lol
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Yeager on September 17, 2010, 02:10:20 PM
Like grains of sand through the hourglass.................... so are the days of our lives.
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: sky25 on September 17, 2010, 02:42:12 PM
All this drama! :neener:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: crazyivan on September 17, 2010, 02:59:56 PM
 :salute Slayem,choker  thread over!! IN
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Little Dragon on September 17, 2010, 03:23:45 PM
IN  :bolt:
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: choker41 on September 17, 2010, 03:24:11 PM
:salute Slayem,choker  thread over!! IN
:pray :pray let it be so :pray :pray
Title: Re: Alpini13
Post by: Changeup on September 17, 2010, 03:51:13 PM
 :salute Swampdragons

V/r

Changeup