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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: --am-- on March 28, 2003, 02:31:04 AM
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March 27, 2003, 1425hrs MSK (GMT +3), Moscow - There has been a sharp increase in activity on the southern front. As of 0700hrs the coalition forces are subjected to nearly constant attacks along the entire length of the front. The Iraqi command took the advantage of the raging sand storm to regroup its troops and to reinforce the defenses along the approaches to Karabela and An-Najaf with two large armored units (up to two armored brigades totaling up to 200 tanks). The Iraqi attack units were covertly moved near the positions of the US 3rd Infantry Division (Motorized) and the 101st Airborne Division. With sunrise and a marginal visibility improvement the Iraqis attacked these US forces in the flank to the west of Karabela.
Simultaneously, massive artillery barrages and counterattacks were launched against units of the US 3rd Infantry Division and the 101st Airborne Division conducting combat operations near An-Najaf. The situation [for the US troops] was complicated by the fact that the continuing sand storm forced them to group their units into battalion convoys in order to avoid losing troops and equipment in near zero-visibility conditions. These battalion convoys were concentrated along the roads leading to Karabela and An-Najaf and had only limited defenses. There was no single line of the front; aerial reconnaissance in these conditions was not possible and until the very last moment the coalition command was unaware of the Iraqi preparations.
During one of such attacks [the Iraqi forces] caught off-guard a unit of the US 3rd Infantry Division that was doing vehicle maintenance and repairs. In a short battle the US unit was destroyed and dispersed, leaving behind one armored personnel carrier, a repair vehicle and two Abrams tanks, one of which was fully operational.
At the present time visibility in the combat zone does not exceed 300 meters, which limits the effectiveness of the 101st Airborne Division and that of its 70 attack helicopters representing the main aerial reconnaissance and ground support force of the coalition. One of the coalition transport helicopters crashed yesterday during take-off. The reason for the crash was sand in the engine compressors.
The Iraqis were able to get in range for close combat without losses and now fierce battles are continuing in the areas of Karabela and An-Najaf. The main burden of supporting the coalition ground troops has been placed with the artillery and ground attack aircraft. Effectiveness of the latter is minimal due to the weather conditions. Strikes can be delivered only against old Iraqi targets with known coordinates, while actually supporting the ground troops engaged in combat is virtually impossible and attempts to do so lead to the most unfortunate consequences.
Intercepted radio communications show that at around 0615hrs this morning the lead of a flight of two A-10 ground attack planes detected a convoy of armored vehicles. Unable to see any markings identifying these vehicles as friendly and not being able to contact the convoy by radio the pilot directed artillery fire to the coordinates of the convoy.
Later it was discovered that this was a coalition convoy. Thick layers of dust covered up the identification markings - colored strips of cloth in the rear of the vehicles. Electronic jamming made radio contact impossible. First reports indicated that the US unit lost 50 troops killed and wounded. At least five armored vehicles have been destroyed, one of which was an Abrams tank.
During the past day the coalition losses in this area [ Karabela and An-Najaf ] were 18-22 killed and up to 40 wounded. Most of the fatalities were sustained due to unexpected attacks by the Iraqi Special Forces against the coalition rears and against communication sites. This is a sign of the increasing diversionary and partisan actions by the Iraqis.
During the same period of time the Iraqi forces sustained up to 100 killed, about the same number of wounded and up to 50 captured.
Since the beginning of the operation no more than 2000 Iraqi troops were captured by the coalition. The majority of the captured troops were members of regional defense [militia] units.
The Iraqis were able to move significant reinforcements to the area of An-Nasiriya making it now extremely difficult for the Americans to widen their staging areas on the left bank of the Euphrates. Moreover, the Americans [on the left bank of the Euphrates] may end up in a very difficult situation if the Iraqis manage to destroy the bridges and to separate [these US units] from the main coalition force. The US forces in this area consist of up to 4,000 Marines from the 1st Marine Division and supporting units of the 82nd Airborne Division. Currently, fighting has resumed in the An-Nasiriya suburbs.
During one of the Iraqi attacks yesterday against the US positions the Iraqis for the first time employed the "Grad" mobile multiple rocket launch systems [MLRS]. As the result an entire US unit was taken out of combat after sustaining up to 40 killed and wounded as well as losing up to 7 armored vehicles.
There are no other reports of any losses in this area [ An-Nasiriya] except for one US Marine drowning in one of the city's water canals and another Marine being killed by a sniper.
During the sand storm the coalition command lost contact with up to 4 coalition reconnaissance groups. Their whereabouts are being determined. It is still unknown what happened to more than 600 other coalition troops mainly from resupply, communications and reconnaissance units communication with which was lost during the past 24 hours.
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The situation around Basra remains unclear. The Iraqis control the city and its suburbs, as well as the area south of Basra and the part of the adjacent Fao peninsula, which the British have so far failed to take. The British forces are blockading Basra from the west and northwest. However, due to difficult marshy terrain crossed by numerous waterways the British have been unable to create a single line of front and to establish a complete blockade of the city. Currently main combat operations are being launched for control of a small village near Basra where the local airport is located. The British field commanders report that there has been no drop in the combat activity of the Iraqis. On the contrary, under the cover of the sand storm up to two battalions of the "surrendered" Iraqi 51st Infantry Division were moved to the Fao peninsula to support the local defending forces.
Rumors about an uprising by the Basra Shiite population turned out to be false. Moreover, the Shiite community leaders called on the local residents to fight the "children of the Satan" - the Americans and the British.
During the past 24 hours the British sustained no less than 3 killed and up to 10 wounded due to mortar and sniper fire.
It is difficult to estimate the Iraqi losses [in Basra] due to limited available information. However, some reports suggest that up to 30 Iraqi troops were killed during the past day by artillery and aircraft fire.
During an attack against a coalition checkpoint in Umm Qasr last night one British marine infantry soldier was heavily wounded. This once again points to the tentative nature of the British claims of control over the town.
Information coming from northern regions of Iraq indicates that most of the Kurdish leaders chose not to participate in the US war against Iraq. The primary reason for that is the mistrust of the Kurds toward the US. Yesterday one of the Russian intelligence sources obtained information about a secret agreement reached between the US and the Turkish government. In the agreement the US, behind the backs of the Kurds, promised Turkey not to support in any way a formation of a Kurdish state in this region. The US has also promised not to prevent Turkey from sending its troops [ to Northern Kurdistan] immediately following [the coalition] capture of northern Iraq.
In essence, this gives Turkey a card-blanche to use force for a "cleanup" in Kurdistan. At the same time the Kurdish troops will be moved to fight the Iraqis outside of Kurdistan, thus rendering them unable to support their own people.
Along the border with Kurdistan Turkey has already massed a 40,000-strong army expeditionary corps that is specializing in combat operations against the Kurds. This force remains at a 4-hour readiness to begin combat operations.
All of this indicates that the coalition command will be unable to create a strong "Northern Front" during the next 3-4 days and that the US Marines and paratroopers in this area will have to limit their operations to distracting the Iraqis and to launching reconnaissance missions.
During a meeting with the Germany's chancellor [ Gerhard ] Schroeder the heads of the German military and political intelligence reported that the US is doing everything possible to conceal information on the situation in the combat zone and that the US shows an extremely "unfriendly" attitude. Germany's own intelligence-gathering capabilities in this region are very limited. This is the result of Germany, being true to its obligations as an ally, not attempting to bolster its national intelligence operations in the region and not trying to separate its intelligence agencies from the intelligence structures of NATO and the US.
There has been a confirmation of yesterday's reports about the plans of the coalition command to increase its forces fighting in Iraq. The troops of the 4th Infantry Division (Mechanized) are currently being airlifted to the region, while its equipment is traveling by sea around the Arabian Peninsula and the unloading is expected to begin as early as by the end of tomorrow. The Division numbers 30,000 soldiers and officers. By the end of April up to 120,000 more US troops, up to 500 tanks and up to 300 more helicopters will be moved to the region.
In addition to that, today the US President [George W] Bush asked the British Prime-Minister [Tony] Blair to increase the British military presence in Iraq by a minimum of 15,000-20,000 troops.
At the current level of combat operations and at the current level of Iraqi resistance the coalition may face a sharp shortage of troops and weapons within the next 5-7 days, which will allow the Iraqis to take the initiative. The White House took this conclusion of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff with great concern.
During the past seven days of the war the US Navy detained all ships in the Persian Gulf going to Iraq under the US "Oil for Food" program. Since yesterday all these ships are being unloaded in Kuwait. Unloaded food is being delivered by the US military to Iraq and is being distributed as "American humanitarian aid" and as a part of the "rebuilding Iraq" program. These US actions have already cause a serious scandal in the UN. The US explained its actions by its unilateral decision to freeze all Iraqi financial assets, including the Iraqi financial assets with the UN. These assets the US now considers its property and will exercise full control over them. Captains of the detained ships have already called these actions by the US a "piracy."
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March 27, 2003, 2321hrs MSK (GMT +3), Moscow (UPDATE) - Intercepted radio communications indicate that tomorrow we should expect a powerful attack by the coalition. During all day today the coalition troops were being reinforced and fully resupplied with fuel and ammunition. Additional units reserved for maintaining security along the Kuwaiti border were moved today to the front lines. The total number of additional [coalition] forces to enter Iraq numbers up to five battalions and around 800 combat vehicles.
By 1600hrs today the sand storm in Iraq has subsided allowing coalition to resume helicopter support of ground troops. At the same time the Iraqi positions were attacked by bombers and ground attack aircraft, which forced the Iraqis to cease their attacks and to resume defensive operations.
Available information suggests that the coalition command, despite of the extreme exhaustion of its troops, will attempt to use elements of the 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division to actively contain the Iraqi forces around Karabela and to reach the strategic Al-Falludja highway by moving from the west around the Razzaza lake, thus cutting off the way to Jordan. It is expected that by noon of March 29 the main coalition forces will reach this area.
During the night from March 29 to March 30 elements of the US 82nd Airborne Division aided by the Army Special Operations units may attempt to capture the Saddam Hussein Airport. Immediately following the capture of the airport the coalition plans to use it for the deployment of a brigade from the 101st Airborne Division, which will be responsible for holding the airport until the arrival of the main forces.
Commanders of the reinforced Marine brigade trying to take An-Nasiriya for the fourth day have received strict orders to suppress the Iraqi defenses and to take the town during the next day, after which to continue their advance toward Al-Kut and Al-Ammara. Similarly strict orders were received by the command of the brigade attacking An-Najaf. They will have to take this town, widen the staging area on the left bank of the Euphrates and push the Iraqis away from the town. By the morning of March 29 both these brigades are supposed join up southwest of Al-Kut, where they will be reinforced by the elements of the 101st Airborne Division and, after forming a southern attack line, they would blockade Baghdad from the south.
The British command has been ordered to completely take over the Fao peninsula, complete the blockade of Basra from the south and to completely take over the [Basra] airport area. After that the British are to advance toward Basra from the south along the Al-Arab river.
Based on this information to say that tomorrow we should expect heated combat would be an understatement.
(source: iraqwar.ru, 03-27-03, translated by Venik)
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LOL! Like reading Clancy, only more fictitious.
Seems like coalition forces had better work on their communications security what with all these intercepted radio transmissions.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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hey -am-, give us a link
ahh...nevermind..March 27, 2003, 2321hrs MSK (GMT +3), Moscow (UPDATE)
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Venik?
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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=focusIraqNews&storyID=2464073
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THX
The information from 03-25-03 proves to be true
According to [Russian military] intelligence Pentagon made a decision to significantly reinforce the coalition. During the next two weeks up to 50,000 troops and no less than 500 tanks will arrive to the combat area from the US military bases in Germany and Albania. By the end of April 120,000 more troops and up to 1,200 additional tanks will be sent to support the war against Iraq.
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2003-03-26 22:42:00
Have Poor Marks? Ask Cockroach to Do Away With Them
Pupils from the Russian city of Yekaterinburg invented a new wonderful method to get rid of poor marks written in their school diaries. They are ready to share the new experience with other pupils who often get poor marks and don’t want to disappoint their parents with the fact of bad progress at school.
The new method is as follows. You should catch 10-20 cockroaches, put them into a small box and starve the insects for 2-3 days. Then you should pour some sweet syrup on the hateful poor mark in your diary and draw the diary open wide closer to the box with cockroaches. Yekaterinburg pupils say that hungry insects will immediately devour the syrup together with the ink and the space under the poor mark on the paper will be clean once again. Isn’t it a wonderful idea? You should try and find out if it’s effective.
2003-03-21 16:33:00
Man Sues Firm Over Big Pumpkins (0)
Nikolay Salakhov, a resident of the town of Pavlov-Posad in the Moscow region, is going to sue a Moscow seed firm. Nikolay is going to file the lawsuit on the allegation of improper seeds, which made him suffer from a brain concussion.
In the year 2002 Nikolay Salakhov bought a small packet of pumpkin seeds in order to grow them on the terrace of his country house. As instructions said, pumpkins entwine props up to two meters high and then grow decorative vegetables the size of a pear.
Nikolay planted those seeds, the plants entwined props on the terrace, although vegetables turned out to be a common size of a pumpkin, weighing up to 15 kilos. One of those big pumpkins fell down on Nikolay’s head, when he slammed the door behind him one fine day. Andrey Tumanov, the chairman of the Moscow Union of Gardeners, said that almost a half of the seeds, which are available on the Russian market today, do not correspond to gardening norms. It often happens that seed firms sell either defective or overdue storage seeds.
2003-03-13 20:02:00
Saunas: Combination of Fire and Water (0)
A lot of people like going to saunas. A sauna used to be associated with cold beer and a company of friends. Now the situation has changed a bit: going to a sauna implies some sort of sexual activities and even perversion sometimes. Steam, beer and friends have been pushed into the background. Since people love mixing business with pleasure, let us try to find out, to which extent the sauna entertainment is good, and to which extent it is bad.
Going to saunas is good, because:
A warmer atmosphere of a sauna is best to make people feel erotic and sexy. Skin nerve endings get very sensitive to caresses, and a couple of visits to the steam room purifies human mind. You are not likely to suffer from any kind of remorse for all mean things that you might do there: the brain will allow your body to do whatever it wants to do. This freedom can hardly be achieved in other circumstances, only with the help of a lot of alcohol, maybe.
The problem of getting undressed in public is not a problem anymore. Everyone gets naked in a sauna and there is no shyness about it. Everyone feels very relaxed. Although, it is always possible to hide intimate body parts with a towel, which is not going to be a serious obstacle like a swimsuit, or a coat, for example.
Steam makes you feel sober. If you are unlucky to drink more alcohol than your body can cope with, a sauna will bring you back to life in some twenty minutes. There are a lot of various conveniences in modern saunas – gyms, jacuzzi, billiards and so on.
Going to saunas is bad, because:
If you feel like having sex in a steam room, it will be a great hardship for your body. The cardiovascular system might not stand such passion both inside and outside. On the other hand, dying while having sex is definitely beautiful.
There are a lot of sources of danger. If you do not drown in a pool, you might lean over a red-hot wall. No one will find it pleasant, even those, who find a certain satisfaction in a little bit of pain.
When everything is naked and accessible, the interest becomes somewhat dull. It is not ruled out that the your excitement about a dressed individual will fade away instantly, when an individual takes his/her clothes off. Wearing pants and jackets is absolutely out of question in a sauna: this might end in a heat stroke.
On the whole, it should be mentioned that having sex in a sauna is good to human health. It is important to do it correctly, because the combination of fire and water can be very dangerous at times. The majority of saunas have special instructions hanging on its walls
2003-03-13 17:30:00
Two-headed Calf Born in Russia’s Vologda Region(0)
Recently a two-headed calf was born at a farm in Russia’s Vologda region. Unfortunately, farmers failed to save its life
At the end of February milkmaids at the Zarya farm clutched their heads in horror: their favorite cow named Toma delivered an unusual animal: it was a calf with two necks and two heads. The farmers were unhappy to see that the two-headed calf died during difficult confinement. Fortunately, the cow itself survived.
Veterinary specialists of the Vologda region say that appearance of the mutant calf is closely connected with worsening ecological situation in the region. Vets say that soils in the area where the strange calf was born catastrophically lack selenium and iodine, this fact causes anomalies. For instance, a calf without a tail was born at a neighboring farm last year. This was the first time that a two-headed calf was born.
Instances of births of such calves are rare in the world as well.
In the spring of 2001 a cow delivered a two-headed calf in a village 70 kilometers to the south of Tirana (Albania). Legends in that place say that birth of such animals brings misfortune, that is why the owner of the strange calf was in despair. However, the woman cheered up when the US Vet Association offered her to sell the mutant for 25 USD.
In the spring of 2002 a two-headed calf was also born in a farm in Russia’s Ulyanovsk region. Last summer similar mutant was born in Honduras. When the calf came to the world, owner of the cow nearly fainted as he saw the calf had two heads. At first, the two heads bellowed simultaneously and then tried to drive the whole of the body. However, the calf died in half an hour.
Scientists explain that such phenomena appear as a result of mutations in the organism in the period of embryonic growth of tissues. Mutations can be caused by unfavorable environmental situation first of all, high concentration of toxic substances and radiation.
2003-03-07 22:00:00
Ukrainian Citizen Changes His Last Name to Bush (0)
Arnold Schwarznegger is the name of a man, who lives in the Dnepropetrovsk region of Ukraine. As it was informed by the Ukrainian Justice Ministry, a man named Putin appeared in the Lugansk region of the country, while the Lvov region has someone, who is named Klitschko (in honor of a famous boxer). A resident of the Ternopol region changed his last name to Bush.
At the same time, a resident of the Lvov region of Ukraine wished to change his last name to Kuchma – the name of the incumbent Ukrainian president. However, internal affairs bodies turned the request down. There were 25 956 Ukrainian citizens, who wished to change their names in the year 2002. This is the official information of the Justice Ministry of Ukraine. Most often people decide to do such thing on account of the fact that their original names sound either funny or they are very hard to pronounce. For example, people changed such names as Kozel (Goat), Mogila (Grave), Krysko (Ratty), Durakov (Dumbo) , Vyrvykhvost (can be translated as ‘pull out a tail’) and many others.
In addition to that, twelve people of the Caucasian nationality changed their last names to Ukrainian ones. This tendency is typical for other regions of the country as well. Ukrainian names are basically changed to German, Italian, Jewish and English ones. Ukrainians like to become Laurita, Tatiana-Sara, Liona, Sabrina, Samantha, Isabella, Radmila, Zigminda. Some people change their names in honor of their favorite soap operas. A resident was incredibly impressed with Harry Potter’s adventures, so now his name is Potter Harry Zakh. A Kiev female resident named Olga changed her name twice in 2002: at first she became Ollga and then Olilga. Two female residents of the Lugansk region changed their last names to Romanov. It is interesting that the women did not know each other at all. Sometimes, civil status employees talk people out of their intention to change their names. For example, they convinced a man not to become Sekretov Sekret Sekretovich.
Ukrainian Justice Minister Alexander Lavrinovich reminded that changing names is absolutely legal in Ukraine. Any Ukrainian citizen of 16 years of age and older, is entitled to go to the adequate civil status department and to submit his or her application on that.
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Better reading than the Star and the Globe put together I say.
So ... like I said before ... when's a good time for the party? Is it ok if I bring some friends? I've got about eight interested so far. But they like fresh clams. And I promised them there would be dates .... female .... no mustaches. Moscow models. If we could we'd like to stage the protests in the afternoon for about an hour (no more). Some of us don't like to walk around with signs in the cold all that much and we figure we'd like to sleep in and deal with our hangovers from the night before.
Oh ... and only a couple of the guys are fond of Vodka. Any chance of having scotch, Tennesee whiskey or beer available there from the States or western Europe? Or do we have to bring that in? They don't mind if we bring that in, do they?
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Results of surveys done on war opinions over the past few weeks paint a troubling picture of American society.
The polls revealed, in three different ways, that people in this country are dangerously uninformed about the links between Iraq and terrorism.
In a CBS/New York Times survey, 45 percent agreed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein "was personally involved in the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Only 40 percent disagreed.
A Pew Foundation poll in February showed 57 percent supporting the contention that "Saddam helped 9-11 attacks." And in a Knight-Ridder poll asking how many Sept. 11 hijackers were Iraqi citizens, only 17 percent of Americans got it right. These revelations simply boggle the mind. There is no excuse for so many Americans to be so poorly informed in today's information age.
There is no evidence whatsoever that Saddam had anything to do with Sept. 11. Not one hijacker was an Iraqi, and even the Bush administration has never supported the war by claiming Saddam aided the hijackers in any way.
"Imagine those 19 (Sept. 11) hijackers with other weapons and other plans - this time armed by Saddam Hussein," Bush said during his State of the Union address.
The poll numbers do more than just reveal a misinformed public. They shed new light on surveys that show about 70 percent of Americans supporting the war against Saddam.
It's no wonder so many people support military action. Many of them believe American soldiers are fighting to capture or kill one of the men responsible for 3,000 deaths at the World Trade Center.
It is incumbent on all Americans educate ourselves about issues involved with this war. Declaring war is the most extreme action a government can take, and governments take that step in the name of their people.
Education is abundantly available. In addition to daily newspapers, television news and weekly newsmagazines, the Internet has made alternative sources accessible for anyone who can get on a computer. Entering "Saddam," "Sept. 11" and "link" into Google's search engine yields 45,800 hits.
If you distrust mainstream American media, the BBC (news.bbc.co.uk), Christian Science Monitor (csmonitor.com) and even an English version of Arab news outlet al-Jazeera's Web site (english.aljazeera.net), which launched Tuesday, provide different views.
Those international news sources also offer important perspectives on how the United States is being viewed overseas. Being unaware of our country's place in the world is as inexcusable as being uninformed about domestic and foreign policy.
There is no excuse to walk through life ignorant.
And if half of all Americans are ignorant about the most talked about, momentous news story of the past several months, how little might they know about other national and local issues? That number might be truly frightening.
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NEAR BASRA (AFP) - British soldiers have been scavenging the debris of war for Iraqi army boots because the British army variety are disintegrating in the hot desert sun.
Guardsman Lee Williams, 18, of the Desert Rats' Royal Scots Dragoon Guards battle group, found a new pair of boots in an abandoned barracks which he said were "lighter and more comfortable" than the British footwear.
He added that he had been forced to swap his footwear because no replacements were available for his own disintegrating boots.
Equipment shortages have affected British forces since their arrival in the Gulf.
Other soldiers are wearing patched-up combat trousers, repaired in one instance by removing a pocket, and in another case by cutting up a colleague's spare shirt.
Army officers concede there have been problems with supplies, partly because of the relatively short time available between the announcement of British deployment and the soldiers' arrival in the Gulf.
Guardsman Williams, from Birmingham, accepted that his footwear problems would not prevent him fighting effectively, but said that he was disappointed that he was having to wear Iraqi boots.
"I was in a prisoner of war camp two days ago in which there was an abandoned barracks and I saw a room full of boots and clothing," he said.
"The English boots I had on were coming apart, they were the black ones, not desert boots, and the sole on them was coming off because of the heat.
"So I picked up a pair of the Iraqi boots for myself. There were lots of them, and they are more comfortable and lighter than the ones I was wearing.
"I'm not too keen about it for obvious reasons and I would not have believed it if you'd have said that I would be wearing Iraqi boots before I came out here."
Another Irish Guard, Guardsman David Richardson, 22, from Manchester, has cut up his own trousers in an attempt to repair holes in the crotch and backside.
"I've only got one pair of desert combats and they were issued second-hand with tears in them which have got worse since I got here," he said. "I've had to cut my pocket out to make patches to cover up the holes. It's embarrassing.
"The Iraqi army seems to be better clothed than we are. We are supposed to look like professional soldiers, but we don't. I look like a tramp."
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Either I'm suddenly living under a totalitarian state, where every ounce of news is prepared in a uniform way so that there are no discrepancies, something completely unheard of, and we are suffering the huge number of casualties alluded to in that piece of 'journalism' (I call it that out of convention, rather than accuracy) despite how the very small number of casualties have had their relatives interviewed by the press...
...or that is a nominee for the short story of the year award.
In addition to that, today the US President [George W] Bush asked the British Prime-Minister [Tony] Blair to increase the British military presence in Iraq by a minimum of 15,000-20,000 troops.
And this is the kicker... this is the part of the report which really illustrates it for what it really is.
The British contingent already provides 1/3 of the Coalitions MBTs, in the form of Challenger II tanks. We provide a very large proportion of troops, equivalent to a third of our professional army. THERE ISN'T EVEN 10,000 TROOPS TO GIVE, NEVERMIND 20,000.
I fully expect the next report to suggest that conscription has begun in British cities.
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Glad we are finally on the same side of something dowding.. :D
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Most terrible now, that the myth about invincibility of the American army has disappeared. It is quite possible, that war will enter of Iran. That China will grasp Taiwan, and Japan attacks Northern Korea. Welcome on WWIII !
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Japan attack north korea... LOL
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Japan attack north korea... LOL
less laughters, read news more
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How's life in your totalitarian democracy, Grunherz?
I'm enjoying life in mine. :D
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News? It's not news what you post. You post the fruits of an agenda. Only that AFP report about British Army boots can be corroborated - it's a well known fact that British clothing is pretty crap. The rest is a joke.
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I can only surmise by your lack of response that my friends and I are not welcome at your home. Well ... if ya want ... we'll stay at the local equivalent of Days Inn or Best Western. It would be handy, though, if you would e-mail or PM me the following info:
- Location, condition and cost of hotels (as mentioned above)
- Cost of rental cars
- Best movie theaters
- Best restaurants
- Best bars and places to meet single, available, attractive but not wanting to get married and move to the U.S. girls
- All night mega-department stores
- Hobby stores ( to make signs - we don't wanna carry them all the way there)
Oh ... and Toby wants to know if he can get a gun permit ... and a gun.
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That picture tells us nothing.
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Apart from the fact you are gonna get banned.
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It you me ask?
- Location, condition and cost of hotels (as mentioned above)
- Cost of rental cars
- Best movie theaters
- Best restaurants
- Best bars and places to meet single, available, attractive but not wanting to get married and move to the U.S. girls
- All night mega-department stores
- Hobby stores ( to make signs - we don't wanna carry them all the way there)
Oh ... and Toby wants to know if he can get a gun permit ... and a gun. [/B]
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Originally posted by Dowding
Apart from the fact you are gonna get banned.
Democracy in action!!!
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Yeah ... it you I ask. We've been talking about this for some time now. Well, at least I have. You always responded with something like:
"American media propogation turning minds of it's people to mush. Green cards and no money for working and the oppressed do not live good. Like Jews in Germany in 1937."
Or some such.
So ... is the party a go or not? The weekend is almost upon us!
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Originally posted by Dowding
How's life in your totalitarian democracy, Grunherz?
I'm enjoying life in mine. :D
I get by, but thankfully I'm putting for a visa to Russia and will be able to leave this rathole of human rights violators.
BTW sorry for ever calling u a commie, I'll prolly do it again sometime out of excitement but you are in no way like that Dowding in comarsion to the real thing... :D
Gotta show wonder at the level of brainwashing they accomplised on the russian people, really an achevment in psychology. You really see this in comparsion to how they must view their checnya war and how they report the american iraq war. Still 100% toeing the party line, and they think they are being the free thinkers. Absolutely amazing brainwashing, simply fantastic.
Our totalitarion states must take notes. :D
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Originally posted by --am--
Most terrible now, that the myth about invincibility of the American army has disappeared. It is quite possible, that war will enter of Iran. That China will grasp Taiwan, and Japan attacks Northern Korea. Welcome on WWIII !
And the Chechnyans welcome the Russians with open arms! Just another fanstasy, much like what you're press prints.
BTW- The report you posted was supposed to be the uncensored report on the Iraq War by the Russian GRU. Having read it, it is no wonder why you guys lost the cold war.
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Watch him come back and tell us how they won the cold war or something like that. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
Yeah ... it you I ask. We've been talking about this for some time now. Well, at least I have. You always responded with something like:
You to ask is at us, you to write the list?
Yes, is.
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Originally posted by Arlo
Yeah ... it you I ask. We've been talking about this for some time now. Well, at least I have. You always responded with something like:
"American media propogation turning minds of it's people to mush. Green cards and no money for working and the oppressed do not live good. Like Jews in Germany in 1937."
Or some such.
So ... is the party a go or not? The weekend is almost upon us!
What else do you expect from a country that has a anti-terrorist force that over-doses and kills the very hostages they are supposed to rescue? Kind of like destroying a village to save it...oh wait, that's just what they're doing in Chechnya. I bet their history books also say they won in Afghanistan.
ack-ack
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Can you edit your posts to remove the pictures of dead people please.
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Great. Be a good chap and pick us up at the airport. :)
Originally posted by --am--
You to ask is at us, you to write the list?
Yes, is.
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Democracy in action!!!
No, decency in action.
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Originally posted by akak
And the Chechnyans welcome the Russians with open arms! Just another fanstasy, much like what you're press prints.
Chechnyans it is territory of the gangsters. With XVI of century so was. People live only by robberies and and trade in the slaves. Think what he the good people? Come. Do not forget only 10 millions dollars on the repayment and additional pair of fingers, which to you there will cut off Chechnyans.
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Hortlund: You're right, maybe the war will go away if we never see any bad things of it.
I bet that with all the censoring, people will forget what those bad cuss words were.. etc.
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Originally posted by akak
What else do you expect from a country that has a anti-terrorist force that over-doses and kills the very hostages they are supposed to
The experts (including Israel) have other opinion. You the expert in clearing the hostages?
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Siaf .... you're reading this thread with your kid, right? :eek:
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Originally posted by --am--
Chechnyans it is territory of the gangsters. With XVI of century so was. People live only by robberies and and trade in the slaves. Think what he the good people? Come.
Jawhol mein fuhrer!
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Originally posted by Arlo
Great. Be a good chap and pick us up at the airport. :)
You seriously to think, what in Russia one airport all over the country?
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Hortlund: You're right, maybe the war will go away if we never see any bad things of it.
Weird attitude.
So you mean that because there is a war, we should all be forced to view images of dead and mutilated bodies? So we can remember that war is bad? Is that what you are trying to say?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Jawhol mein fuhrer!
You the historian? What sources can name on the given question? You worked in archives? You were published?
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I write extensivly for http://www.pravda.ru perhaps you have read my work there?
BTW You do understand that the nazis used the same excuses as you for the chechens when they started their program of extermination and persecution of the Jews..
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Oh no .... you're not from Moscow then. Well damn. Think "Russian" would be so good as to pick us up? Is it going to be too far for you to participate? After all .. this protest party wouldn't be the same without ya. :(
Originally posted by --am--
You seriously to think, what in Russia one airport all over the country?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
BTW You do understand that the nazis used the same excuses as you for the chechens when they started their program of extermination and persecution of the Jews..
I see that you propagation nazi too to not know. At you in a head of a fairy tale any. It is necessary more to read of the archival documents and a little to look TV, then you will look íîìàëüíûì the man
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He now denies the holocaust! My, my, no wonder the russian kids are so good at math and the sciences, they all skip history class...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
He now denies the holocaust! My, my, no wonder the russian kids are so good at math and the sciences, they all skip history class...
I do not deny holocaust. I speak, that you are ignorant in a history.
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This is pointless. I have no problem with trying to understand people who write in English as a second language - at least they try. But using Babelfish in a discussion is just impossible.
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Originally posted by --am--
Chechnyans it is territory of the gangsters. With XVI of century so was. People live only by robberies and and trade in the slaves. Think what he the good people? Come. Do not forget only 10 millions dollars on the repayment and additional pair of fingers, which to you there will cut off Chechnyans.
And you say we're duped by our country's propaganda? It must suck having your country's army routinely embarrassed and out fought by a roving band of 'gangsters'
ack-ack
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Originally posted by --am--
The experts (including Israel) have other opinion. You the expert in clearing the hostages?
I'm not an expert in anti-terrorist operations but I do know that you don't over-dose and kill the very people you try to save.
By the way, Russia was condemned for using that narcotic gas. You would have thought that they would have known the terrorists were using gas masks and weren't effected by the narcotic.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by --am--
I see that you propagation nazi too to not know. At you in a head of a fairy tale any. It is necessary more to read of the archival documents and a little to look TV, then you will look íîìàëüíûì the man
Oh you mean the archives where it shows that Stalin had the entire population of Chechnya deported to central Asia and those that refused to leave their homeland were murdered? Or maybe we'll find some juicy stuff on the gulags or maybe even find some papers on how Russia has routinely violated UN sanctions by selling weapons to Iraq.
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by akak
And you say we're duped by our country's propaganda? It must suck having your country's army routinely embarrassed and out fought by a roving band of 'gangsters'
ack-ack
The gangsters are supported by the population. Mentality Chechnya - real man should kill and plunder. To work is for the slaves.
By the way, Russia was condemned for using that narcotic gas.
Name the state which has condemned. Or recognize that you have thought up it.
I can remind as FBI has killed by gas of the hostages seized by a sect Devid Coresh
Oh you mean the archives where it shows that Stalin had the entire population of Chechnya deported to central Asia and those that refused to leave their homeland were murdered?
All data are open any more less than 15 years. You again repeat myths of propagation.
Or maybe we'll find some juicy stuff on the gulags or maybe even find some papers on how Russia has routinely violated UN sanctions by selling weapons to Iraq.
And it is invented USA what to justify the worthless war in Iraq.
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Now the soviet gulags are an American invention...
WOW!!!
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The invention is of the Englishmen. By first it was applied by the Englishmen in Southern Africa in the beginning XX of century. The Americans maintained it. During civil war between North and South (by the way commissioners too American invention - they were in armies of North), conclusion in camp of the American citizens of the Japanese origin in time WWII.
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AM i know english is not your primary speech but understand using bablefish is like talking to a retarded yoda.
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Originally posted by Dnil
AM i know english is not your primary speech but understand using bablefish is like talking to a retarded yoda.
Yoda? From "Star Wars"?
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comon guys... it's a troll... even the dumbest brainded brainwashed russian wouldn't believe the crap in that "newspaper".
I will admit tho... In this case.... I am enjoying arlos posts.
lazs
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AM sure sounds like the old school commie...
I can't say I would feel safe about coming over to visit in russia either!
Let alone war riddled Czechnya, where some russian unit might mistakenly take you for czechnyan and shoot.
People are being openly robbed in broad daylight in Russia and AM keeps talking about kill & plunder people in czechnya... go figure.
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---AM----.....mind telling me my russian friend what it is you are tryin to accomplish by posting such messages......
Did americans kill civilians........yes
Did Iraqis kill there OWN civilians.......yes
where there any mistakes made by Americans.....yes
where there mistakes made by the Iraqis......yes
is propaganda used by Americans......yes
is there propaganda used by Iraqis.....yes
are Americans using civilians as shields.....no
are Iraqis using civilians as shields......yes
are Americans tryin to HELP civilians......yes
are Iraqis tryin to help there OWN civilians.......? (you answer that 1)
your tryin to hard at being vindictive ---AM---......
the more you point your finger at the Americans on this board.....the more they are going to attack you or your country.
This WILL NOT solve any issues you have.......
Post your issues....talk to em.....ask questions....some in here are very smart....some will answer you in all fairness....but some will not.
be smart --am---.....
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Originally posted by SLO
Did Iraqis kill there OWN civilians.......yes
There are proofs?
are Iraqis using civilians as shields......yes
There are proofs?
are Americans tryin to HELP civilians......yes
Yes, they kill all of them. In Basre there is no water, because the Americans have destroyed a waterpipe. A waterpipe this terrible weapon of the Iraq militarians?
are Iraqis tryin to help there OWN civilians.......? (you answer that 1)
he food on one half-year forward are given to all Iraq inhabitants. All wishing to leave have received the passports. In Bagdad there were there is a lot of male and few women.
P.S.
Recollect aggression against Yugoslavia. Yours propagation is impudently deceive about hundred thousand killed in ethnic cleanings the Albanians. For all these years could not find even one mass burial place of the killed peace inhabitants. But you have forgotten about it. Western inhabitant has bad memory. He trusts TV.
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----am---- sorry bud....I won't get into your NO YES show proof debate.....
your looking for people to hook your fishing line.....
.........NOT GONNA.....sorry mate but you got your POV....and we poor piss ant westerners can't even remember what was on TV just yesterday.....
lucky we have russians to protect us from bad bad people.....
lucky ONLY russians now the truth......
damn we lucky we stupid....
ain't ignorance bliss:eek:
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I admit it , this war is obviously going bad for the USA - thanks for showming that and all the things CNN is hiding from us.
However I still think its a worthwhile effort so I would like to ask you for tips about waging war against iraq seeing as you Russians have had so much sucess fighting the afghans and chechens. Tell us how its done, how did you achieve those stunning victories despite all odds?
Plese enlighten us, please.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
However I still think its a worthwhile effort so I would like to ask you for tips about waging war against iraq seeing as you Russians have had so much sucess fighting the afghans and chechens. Tell us how its done, how did you achieve those stunning victories despite all odds?
Grun, I think that we'd better ask Croatian sondercommanden for advices of how to deal with population. They had brilliant experience in Srpska Krajna.
Afghan war was a success, you already asked me about it. The reason for retreat was purely political.
In Chechnya the problem could be solved in two weeks if Russians didn't care about civilians. Believe me, usually howitzers are more precise then 5-ton bombs dropped from stratosphere.
If you want advises - our president already said that the whole Iraqi campain is a big mistake. I am happy that his military advisors are a little more competent then your pentagon hawks.
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LOL russians caring abou civilan casualties in chechnya.. :) I need a good joke this morning.
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In your mind were serbs ever not the main victims in the Yogoslav civil war and aftermath?
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Originally posted by --am--
Most terrible now, that the myth about invincibility of the American army has disappeared. It is quite possible, that war will enter of Iran. That China will grasp Taiwan, and Japan attacks Northern Korea. Welcome on WWIII !
HeHeHe
Rumsfeld Warns Iranian Proxies in Iraq
Fri March 28, 2003 02:07 PM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said on Thursday that armed Iranian proxies gathered inside Iraq will be considered combatants if they interfered with U.S. forces.
"They report up to the (Iranian) Revolutionary Guard, and they're armed, and there are some additional ones that are close to the border," Rumsfeld told a Pentagon news briefing. "To the extent they interfere with (U.S.) Gen. (Tommy) Franks activities they would have to be considered combatants.
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Boroda
You have a small and very narrow view of the USA and the world, this is what your country has done to you with a limited education and very slanted views.
Your hate and disregard to us is noted and very clear.
I feel sorry for you and your beliefs but your mind is made up and as cold and solid as the statues of your old and forgotten leaders.
If you have the strength to re visit this board when Iraq is free and the truth is shown, I will then have some respect for you.
We bleed not for oil or money but for a just cause, We believe "all men our created equal and have the right to be free" not just Americans.
Your country is slowly moving toward a free society and we are pleased for your success in this matter.
The reasons for your country’s disapproval of our actions are well known and we feel sorry for the economic loses you will suffer. But when you sleep with the Devil you will get burned.
It is well documented of the evil of Saddom and your constant demand for proof means you are either ignorant of just playing with the emotions of many on this board.
I would like to spent some time with you, have some drinks and go fishing. I think we may have much in common, just a Gulf of life’s experiences separating us.
I wish you luck in life and hope you spend some time searching for why we are who we are, we really are not bad just devoted to seeing freedom ring.
Scott