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Title: mods and power abuse
Post by: molybdenum on August 23, 2020, 05:21:54 PM
Seriously. Never really gave it a 2nd thought til now. Been muted 2x in my AH life both times for using the word "b*tch' in the context of "that base will be a b*tch to take." But now. Got into a discussion on 200 about how bombing and bailing was bad for the game (HT this was 20min ago check the log) and got warned by an OP, then muted when I reiterated my issues with it.

Really?

You want me to keep sending you $15/mo. moderate your mods.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on August 23, 2020, 05:31:07 PM
You were warned yet you still felt compelled to repeat yourself to test it? And then you came to the forum for the public spectacle?

support@hitechcreations.com
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: molybdenum on August 23, 2020, 05:40:58 PM
Yup. because the mute was unwarranted. If HT disagrees....
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Shuffler on August 23, 2020, 06:40:49 PM
Yup. because the mute was unwarranted. If HT disagrees....

Did you win the cupie doll?

Warnings are for a reason.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: hitech on August 23, 2020, 06:47:35 PM
Standing rule for mods is mute anyone who tries argue a warning.

IE  You deserved the mute.

HiTech
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: molybdenum on August 23, 2020, 06:55:04 PM
Then I reiterate. Moderate your mods.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: TheBug on August 23, 2020, 08:00:29 PM
He called your bluff.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: kilo2 on August 23, 2020, 09:38:45 PM
Take it like a man and move on champ
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Puma44 on August 23, 2020, 09:54:14 PM
Slow learner.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: 1stpar3 on August 24, 2020, 04:20:43 AM
Slow learner.  :headscratch:
:rofl Love ya,Brother!    Squad Night with MY Boys..the ULs...Tactus,Dieter,Wolf and myself Capkid....introduced LilBlizz to WW1 Western Front! SHE ROCKED! We have created a Monster!!! :rock  Kept her up till 1am eastern lol  I blame sis  :rofl
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: ULPink on August 24, 2020, 09:23:10 AM
Standing rule for mods is mute anyone who tries argue a warning.

IE  You deserved the mute.

HiTech

Oh dear
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: AAIK on August 24, 2020, 10:06:32 AM
But now. Got into a discussion on 200 about how bombing and bailing was bad for the game (HT this was 20min ago check the log) and got warned by an OP, then muted when I reiterated my issues with it.

The guy said he was muted for discussing the issues with bombing and bailing. Hardly mutable material. You guys did notice that part of his message right?
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: haggerty on August 24, 2020, 10:09:02 AM
Maybe the mod was the bailer and got triggered.  Either way, they want those discussions here on the forums, where people will tell you its their $15 to bail as much as they want. 
Atleast we got proxies within 6k, that was a huge improvement that I didnt expect.  People are less likely to bail if you are in visual range now.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: hitech on August 24, 2020, 10:19:19 AM
The guy said he was muted for discussing the issues with bombing and bailing. Hardly mutable material. You guys did notice that part of his message right?

He was muted for arguing the warning.  He was warned and continued.

HiTech
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on August 24, 2020, 10:23:46 AM
The guy said he was muted for discussing the issues with bombing and bailing. Hardly mutable material. You guys did notice that part of his message right?

There is no screenshot evidence of how he complained on game text (was he being an obnoxious arse like he's being on the forum? was he going on and on and being a nuisance?) However he did it he's doing everything the wrong way no matter how 'right' he thinks he is. Whether you agree with him or not, he was given fair warning then did it again out of spite then brought his issue to the forum for public sympathy and to build a pressure case against HT.  (And it wasn't even anything new or unique to complain about.) :old:

If he learns how to take it here > support@hitechcreations.com (http://support@hitechcreations.com) instead of running to the forum to publicly whine about it then at least one positive thing came of this.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: ULPink on August 24, 2020, 10:30:00 AM
You were warned yet you still felt compelled to repeat yourself to test it? And then you came to the forum for the public spectacle?

support@hitechcreations.com

I think Arlo may be a mod, just a hunch lol
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: hitech on August 24, 2020, 10:36:50 AM
I think Arlo may be a mod, just a hunch lol

Someone as out spoken as Arlo would make a lousy moderator. I choose mods from players who have shown to be level headed over a long period of time.

HiTech
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on August 24, 2020, 10:42:50 AM
Someone as out spoken as Arlo would make a lousy moderator. I choose mods from players who have shown to be level headed over a long period of time.

HiTech

You cut me to the quick, m'lord.  :frown:
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: fuzeman on August 24, 2020, 10:44:26 AM
I’ve never had an issue with a moderator and give them a -{S}- for their work.
Imagine the game without them.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: guncrasher on August 24, 2020, 11:18:45 AM
I once new a trainee mod that got suspended for 3 days, while training to be a moderator.  that was funny as heck.  needless to say he didnt make it.



semp
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: ULPink on August 24, 2020, 11:45:04 AM
Someone as out spoken as Arlo would make a lousy moderator. I choose mods from players who have shown to be level headed over a long period of time.

HiTech

Hee hee
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Mister Fork on August 24, 2020, 12:17:24 PM
Someone as out spoken as Arlo would make a lousy moderator.

HiTech

You just got burned Arlo!  :rofl

(https://www.memecreator.org/static/images/templates/683828.jpg)

Hitech can be very black & white at times, but we like that about him.


Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Shuffler on August 24, 2020, 12:20:35 PM
The guy said he was muted for discussing the issues with bombing and bailing. Hardly mutable material. You guys did notice that part of his message right?

Also language. Bottom line, he was warned and stepped off the cliff.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Shuffler on August 24, 2020, 12:23:12 PM
I’ve never had an issue with a moderator and give them a -{S}- for their work.
Imagine the game without them.

Amen!!
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Shuffler on August 24, 2020, 12:24:59 PM
You just got burned Arlo!  :rofl

(https://www.memecreator.org/static/images/templates/683828.jpg)

Hitech can be very black & white at times, but we like that about him.

LOL.... well truth be told, few of us would make good Mods.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: LCADolby on August 24, 2020, 01:50:37 PM
LOL.... well truth be told, few of us would make good Mods.

Done it before, not in AH, it's a lousy job. Overly active = whines, inactive = whine, pro active = whine..
Better to not be a mod and just call people out for being dicks. :old:
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Ramesis on August 24, 2020, 02:24:09 PM
LOL.... well truth be told, few of us would make good Mods.

+1
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: hitech on August 24, 2020, 02:25:43 PM
Done it before, not in AH, it's a lousy job. Overly active = whines, inactive = whine, pro active = whine..
Better to not be a mod and just call people out for being dicks. :old:

Does this sound like a whine to anyone else?  :devil

HiTech
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on August 24, 2020, 02:32:30 PM
Does this sound like a whine to anyone else?  :devil

HiTech

Yes, sir! I always agree with you, sir!  :salute :D
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: LCADolby on August 24, 2020, 02:38:32 PM
Does this sound like a whine to anyone else?  :devil

HiTech

touché
 :rofl

Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Shuffler on August 24, 2020, 03:25:32 PM
Does this sound like a whine to anyone else?  :devil

HiTech

Ok ok.... I spilled and sprayed coffee.

Dang you HiTech LOL
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on August 24, 2020, 03:47:25 PM
LOL.... well truth be told, few of us would make good Mods.

If only he knew how mindfully and judiciously I hold back (as compared to most).  :D
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: ULPink on August 24, 2020, 08:01:04 PM
Someone as out spoken as Arlo would make a lousy moderator. I choose mods from players who have shown to be level headed over a long period of time.

HiTech

Can I be mod until Monday, Hitech? =)
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: flippz on August 25, 2020, 12:15:07 AM
Lol. Imagine getting muted for arguing. Lol. In a game where the average is 65. Lol
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: fuzeman on August 25, 2020, 12:27:05 PM
Lol. Imagine getting muted for arguing. Lol. In a game where the average is 65. Lol

Average what?
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: LCADolby on August 25, 2020, 12:33:49 PM
His IQ?
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Wiley on August 25, 2020, 01:13:55 PM
 :O

This week, on Mutes of Our Lives...  Another post about arguing a warning turning into a longer mute.  Once again, the expected groundswell of player support for the mutee fails to materialize.  Once again, the mutee is directed to the correct channel to challenge a muting.  Once again, HT explains why it happened.

Tune in, and be spellbound by the banality.

Wiley.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: flippz on August 26, 2020, 11:14:17 PM
Average what?
Age
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: flippz on August 26, 2020, 11:14:58 PM
His IQ?
Don’t take a lot to spar with you?
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: fuzeman on August 27, 2020, 08:27:58 AM
Age

I’m below average for a few more years.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: 800nate800 on August 27, 2020, 11:10:27 AM
sorry bro but imo you probably deserved it because you always try to start some bs with me.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Nefarious on August 27, 2020, 11:26:23 AM
Does this sound like a whine to anyone else?  :devil

HiTech

3/10

I've seen worse.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: iikie on August 27, 2020, 06:39:07 PM
I was muted once, but it was for using seriously bad language :D :banana:
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Mayhem on August 28, 2020, 03:29:52 AM
I've been here since Beta in late 1999 ..... Never been muted kicked banned or even warned.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Ramesis on August 28, 2020, 03:44:28 PM
He was muted for arguing the warning.  He was warned and continued.

HiTech

There seems to be a parallel between this post and recent events...
When someone in authority says to do something... don't argue and
do what your told  :aok
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Shuffler on August 28, 2020, 04:10:13 PM
There seems to be a parallel between this post and recent events...
When someone in authority says to do something... don't argue and
do what your told  :aok

Amazing isn't it.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: shppr01 on August 28, 2020, 04:25:41 PM
I’ve never worried about who the moderators are, nor have I worried about being muted. I treat everyone ingame when I talk with respect.  Give them respect like you’d want it. Same goes for forums. Not rocket science, just common sense.  :salute
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 03, 2020, 12:32:29 PM
Standing rule for mods is mute anyone who tries argue a warning.

IE  You deserved the mute.

HiTech

The misdirection here is epic.

Was the warning warranted?
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 03, 2020, 12:35:36 PM
The misdirection here is epic.

Was the warning warranted?

I don't see no misdirection, I see you taking HiTech's post out of context

just my observation

TC
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 03, 2020, 12:37:51 PM
The misdirection here is epic.

Was the warning warranted?

I'm certain, without a doubt, that there are better crusades available.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 03, 2020, 12:48:42 PM

I don't see no misdirection...

TC

Of course you wouldn't.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: guncrasher on September 03, 2020, 12:49:20 PM
The misdirection here is epic.

Was the warning warranted?

it's common knowledge that you will get muted if you confront a mod.  now if you feel the warning is unwarranted contact hitech and bring it to his attention. hitech will take care of it if it's wrong.

semp
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 03, 2020, 12:58:23 PM
Of course you wouldn't.

not arguing with you, just pointing out the fact that you quoting a "Statement Post" by HiTech where in that specific post/reply he was explaining why the mute was applied, which has been common knowledge on these messageboards for the last 20 years and taking it completely out of context and twisting his post saying HiTech was misdirecting the thread when hitech never did no such thing...



have a Blessed Day
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 03, 2020, 01:00:33 PM
it's common knowledge that you will get muted if you confront a mod.  now if you feel the warning is unwarranted contact hitech and bring it to his attention. hitech will take care of it if it's wrong.

semp

^^^ THIS ^^^
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 03, 2020, 01:04:25 PM
Got into a discussion on 200 about how bombing and bailing was bad for the game (HT this was 20min ago check the log) and got warned by an OP, then muted when I reiterated my issues with it.

Vink, a channel 200 non-productive whine fest over something Moly had no solution for is a disruption to the game. Moly got warned. Moly got muted when he made it very clear that he was going to persist.

If Moly doesn't like flying with a sock in his mouth then Moly needs to be less disruptive.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Puma44 on September 03, 2020, 01:51:51 PM
I’ve never worried about who the moderators are, nor have I worried about being muted. I treat everyone ingame when I talk with respect.  Give them respect like you’d want it. Same goes for forums. Not rocket science, just common sense.  :salute

This is it, right here. ^
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: fuzeman on September 03, 2020, 03:02:54 PM
I got muted in the Special Events Arena.....




by me.    :rofl :bolt:
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Shuffler on September 03, 2020, 08:50:13 PM
If someone tells you you are doing something stupid.      Do you go and do something stupid to make them right?

Arguing with a mod who may have been mistaken is just the same. A warning is nothing to worry about if you did nothing wrong. Just let it go.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Kuhn on September 04, 2020, 10:38:22 AM
Always remember that the mods have the power to warn you about community standards and block you if they think you have violated community standards and arguing about community standards is against community standards.  :D
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: JimmyD3 on September 04, 2020, 04:01:19 PM
I suspect Moly was most likely reported, don't know of course. For me personally certain vulgar words are unacceptable in the game, as they are in public discourse. If you wouldn't use the word in front of your Mother, Daughter or grand daughter, then don't use it here. It has nothing to do with "rights" or "free speech", its called common courtesy.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: mechanic on September 04, 2020, 04:35:48 PM
I've been here since Beta in late 1999 ..... Never been muted kicked banned or even warned.

I am free on Wednesday if you would like to book in a quick muted/banned training session Mayhem. Basic whine briefing and profanity refresher is included free with every booking.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Oldman731 on September 04, 2020, 10:29:03 PM
I suspect Moly was most likely reported, don't know of course. For me personally certain vulgar words are unacceptable in the game, as they are in public discourse. If you wouldn't use the word in front of your Mother, Daughter or grand daughter, then don't use it here. It has nothing to do with "rights" or "free speech", its called common courtesy.


Agreed.

- oldman
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: LCADolby on September 05, 2020, 12:29:02 AM
I am free on Wednesday if you would like to book in a quick muted/banned training session Mayhem. Basic whine briefing and profanity refresher is included free with every booking.
:aok :rofl
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: nooby52 on September 05, 2020, 06:11:57 AM
Lol. Imagine getting muted for arguing. Lol. In a game where the average is 65. Lol

THIS! lol
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: fuzeman on September 05, 2020, 10:41:26 AM
And I remember hearing when I was young, with age comes wisdom
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 08, 2020, 10:14:36 AM
Vink, a channel 200 non-productive whine fest over something Moly had no solution for is a disruption to the game. Moly got warned. Moly got muted when he made it very clear that he was going to persist.

If Moly doesn't like flying with a sock in his mouth then Moly needs to be less disruptive.

I'd agree if that was the case. Moly's version of events is hardly disruptive to the game. Given that arguing with mod get's you kicked, Moly's REAL question is why was he warned for saying what he said.

...so far there are no ligit answers. So his conclusion that he was targeted unfairly has still not been addressed.  :salute
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Puma44 on September 08, 2020, 10:45:01 AM
I'd agree if that was the case. Moly's version of events is hardly disruptive to the game. Given that arguing with mod get's you kicked, Moly's REAL question is why was he warned for saying what he said.

...so far there are no ligit answers. So his conclusion that he was targeted unfairly has still not been addressed.  :salute

So, does that mean it’ll get addressed on the BBS?  Or, perhaps he could call HT directly and address it, if he hasn’t already done that.  Pretty sure it’s not going to get resolved here.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 08, 2020, 11:06:24 AM
So, does that mean it’ll get addressed on the BBS?  Or, perhaps he could call HT directly and address it, if he hasn’t already done that.  Pretty sure it’s not going to get resolved here.

The board is for discussion. We're discussing. Resolution may be for a higher power, but that shouldn't shut down a discussion topic.  :salute
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 08, 2020, 11:29:04 AM
The board is for discussion. We're discussing. Resolution may be for a higher power, but that shouldn't shut down a discussion topic.  :salute

8- Complaints about a player's behavior online should be emailed to support@hitechcreations.com rather than posted to this board.

That's an official posting rule.

On top of that, disruption is considered mutable. Posting on 200 continuously about your opinion of the practice of 'bomb and bail' can be disruptive. It is within the purview of the moderator to determine when something is disruptive. Moly was given a warning.

And ... on top of that, let's talk about bomb and bail:

There is a bail out function in the game. There is no limitation placed on when or how players can bail. In the case of 'bomb and bail' then the bomber player elected to take the fastest way home short of augering *after* he dropped his bomb load. Big deal. Some of them may even bail without making it to target. Big deal. But, to be honest, given the time constraints of some players (bomber, fighter, tank, whatever - fun time isn't always 'unlimited') it is understandable if they choose to bail after bombing in order to take off immediately for their next run. I don't think they do this to upset Moly ... or you .... or me .... or anyone specific. Though if they were able to figure out that they managed to do so, as well, it might be amusing to them.

'Fixing' this is problematic. What do you suggest? Eliminate the ability to bail out, altogether? That may please Moly, or you, but do you take into account how appreciated or not it would be across the spectrum of the player community? Only allow bailing if your plane takes damage? Bombers can overstress fairly easily if they are intent. What would the difference be between 'bomb and bail' and 'bomb and break?'

In other words, it's a useless complaint ... being made on channel 200 ... over and over ... disruptive.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: LCADolby on September 08, 2020, 11:31:35 AM
How the friggidy frack did this make it to page 5!?  :confused:
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 08, 2020, 12:15:30 PM
...Posting on 200 continuously about your opinion of the practice of 'bomb and bail' can be disruptive. It is within the purview of the moderator to determine when something is disruptive. Moly was given a warning.

Continuously is an interesting term that is too vague to be able to address.  People complain about all manner of game play on 200 without getting warnings.  The only insta-Warning i'm aware of is "hacking-cheating".  Even general comments should be off limits. Everyone knows you should film it and submit it.  But Bomb and bail comments are so "Disruptive" they merit  an auto-warning?  How about comments about running, vulching, ho-ing, sneaking, bomb****ing, picking, alt-monkeying, ganging?  General comments about game play styles hardly seem "disruptive" in AH, or mutable as a rule.   

Abusive language directed at an individual is, of course.  but I see no evidence Moly was abusive to a player.

And ... on top of that, let's talk about bomb and bail:

Nah everyone agrees with you.   Except Moly...but I hope that wasn't why he was muted .  :eek:
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: The Fugitive on September 08, 2020, 12:22:09 PM
Continuously is an interesting term that is too vague to be able to address.  People complain about all manner of game play on 200 without getting warnings.  The only insta-Warning i'm aware of is "hacking-cheating".  Even general comments should be off limits. Everyone knows you should film it submit it.  But Bomb and bail is "Disruptive" worthy of an auto-warning?  How about comments about running, vulching, ho-ing, sneaking, bomb****ing, picking, alt-monkeying, ganging?  General comments about game play styles hardly seem "disruptive" in AH, or mutable as a rule.   

Abusive language directed at an individual are, of course.  but I see no evidence Moly was abusive to a player.

Nah everyone agrees with you.   Except Moly...but I hope that wasn;t why he was muted .  :eek:

Im sure he was getting into his complaint on 200. I know I have gotten ticed off about all the HOs and will vent on 200, with respect and as a "conversation". But I have gotten to the point where I was answering 5 or 6 players during said discussion, so much so that it would take up a good amount of the text window. I have received warnings from MODs as the OP was warned, the only difference was I stopped typing and the OP didnt. The OP "questioned" the MOD and the MOD muted him as that IS a muting offense (questioning or even trying to communicate with a MOD).

Then his second mistake was to bring it to the boards instead of dropping Hitech an email asking for clarification.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 08, 2020, 01:16:22 PM

Then his second mistake was to bring it to the boards instead of dropping Hitech an email asking for clarification.

I don;t think bringing this to the boards is a mistake because it raises awareness about what standard are being enforced.  :salute
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: SPKmes on September 08, 2020, 01:18:49 PM
I understand and know the rules around it...as does the OP ... no problem...however as you said above Fuji.... there are others who in some cases fuel the fire ... this is where the thought of unfair comes into play IMO ... there are often at times antagonists ... they get to carry on their merry way without a problem... fair enough the OP should not have questioned the mod.. and possibly not got muted... however the fact still stands that he probably would have... the nit pickers would have pushed that button to cause a reaction....

Now the OP for sure should be adult enough to know when they are getting to hot with their answers buuuut... the balance doesn't seem to be there sometimes and sometimes although there are only a few lines typed by each other player... they are still on the same vein as the original 200 text that started the furor....a hard balance for sure...however sometimes you can,t help but think...hmmm favorites
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 08, 2020, 01:21:18 PM
I don;t think bringing this to the boards is a mistake because it raises awareness about what standard are being enforced.  :salute

And that's where your thinking goes off kilter. Moly made spectacle on channel 200. He was warned. Moly persisted. He was muted. Moly brought it here to form a mob. It didn't work out. You are in the minority holding his water. I'm sure you can find a worthier cause. Or ... you can just keep on and see how well that works.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 08, 2020, 02:12:32 PM
And that's where your thinking goes off kilter.

It went off kilter way before then.. :)
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 08, 2020, 02:15:02 PM
It went off kilter way before then.. :)

 :cheers: :salute

(Know the feelin'.)
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vulcan on September 08, 2020, 02:38:11 PM
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Wiley on September 08, 2020, 02:44:58 PM
I don;t think bringing this to the boards is a mistake because it raises awareness about what standard are being enforced.  :salute

Is there nowhere that it says, "Arguing with a mod on public channel ingame is an instant mute" other than in these threads?  There should be.

Beyond that, at the end of the day depending on how long Moly was on about it on 200, it might fall under the "don't be a dick on channel" common sense clause.  But, we all know some people need the line drawn explicitly in sharpie, crayon, and highlighter before they consider the rule properly explained.

Wiley.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 08, 2020, 02:51:21 PM
Is there nowhere that it says, "Arguing with a mod on public channel ingame is an instant mute" other than in these threads?  There should be.

Beyond that, at the end of the day depending on how long Moly was on about it on 200, it might fall under the "don't be a dick on channel" common sense clause.  But, we all know some people need the line drawn explicitly in sharpie, crayon, and highlighter before they consider the rule properly explained.

Wiley.

(https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/dont-be-a-dick-taoteching-art.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Shuffler on September 08, 2020, 06:11:02 PM
I'd agree if that was the case. Moly's version of events is hardly disruptive to the game. Given that arguing with mod get's you kicked, Moly's REAL question is why was he warned for saying what he said.

...so far there are no ligit answers. So his conclusion that he was targeted unfairly has still not been addressed.  :salute

No... absolutely wrong. While the original warning may have not been completely correct, he was muted for the correct reason.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 08, 2020, 06:28:41 PM
No... absolutely wrong. While the original warning may have not been completely correct, he was muted for the correct reason.

I say the original warning was very correct. Moly was parading an issue that served no good purpose and was only ch. 200 noise. Not really any different than the time I created a 'gobble gobble' macro and drunkenly used it on thanksgiving (it may have been mildly amusing the first half dozen times but after that I was muted, understandably, and I played on in amused silence). Did Barney 'nip it in the bud' a little too quick? Meh. Sooner the better, probably.  :aok
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Shuffler on September 08, 2020, 07:18:03 PM
I say the original warning was very correct. Moly was parading an issue that served no good purpose and was only ch. 200 noise. Not really any different than the time I created a 'gobble gobble' macro and drunkenly used it on thanksgiving (it may have been mildly amusing the first half dozen times but after that I was muted, understandably, and I played on in amused silence). Did Barney 'nip it in the bud' a little too quick? Meh. Sooner the better, probably.  :aok

I was not there so I have no idea personally. The mute was for arguing about it though.... a definite no no.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Oldman731 on September 08, 2020, 07:47:49 PM


Thanks for that!

- oldman (we were a silly generation)
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 10, 2020, 08:50:12 AM
Is there nowhere that it says, "Arguing with a mod on public channel ingame is an instant mute" other than in these threads?  There should be.

Beyond that, at the end of the day depending on how long Moly was on about it on 200, it might fall under the "don't be a dick on channel" common sense clause.  But, we all know some people need the line drawn explicitly in sharpie, crayon, and highlighter before they consider the rule properly explained.

Wiley.

Don't disagree, But he says he wasn't. So where is the original 200 conversation, and what does it show? So we can all learn.  :salute
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 10, 2020, 08:51:27 AM
Don't disagree, But he says he wasn't. So where is the original 200 conversation, and what does it show? So we can all learn.  :salute

What do you need to learn here?  :old:
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 10, 2020, 08:51:59 AM
No... absolutely wrong. While the original warning may have not been completely correct, he was muted for the correct reason.

No. We've moved on from the mute to the warning. Clarification needed.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 10, 2020, 08:54:03 AM
What do you need to learn here?  :old:

What he said that warranted a warning, with specifics (topic, frequency, 200 community response) all of which I think would be relevant.  :salute
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 10, 2020, 08:54:12 AM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/mIvrv5Qe0kHlu/200.gif)
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Vinkman on September 10, 2020, 08:56:38 AM

Then I consider his complaint valid.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Puma44 on September 10, 2020, 09:27:08 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jz3fFwSd/52329770-F21-C-4-B79-8-EDD-C074-BD645-B28.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Mayhem on September 10, 2020, 10:06:14 AM
I am free on Wednesday if you would like to book in a quick muted/banned training session Mayhem. Basic whine briefing and profanity refresher is included free with every booking.

No thanks I've flown with Chitown and Guru.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: guncrasher on September 10, 2020, 10:43:05 AM
Then I consider his complaint valid.

his complain is not valid. he confronted a moderator and got suspended for that reason. if he thought his warning was unwarranted he should have emailed hitech directly.

his complain should not have been posted in the bb at all.

semp
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Wiley on September 10, 2020, 11:18:34 AM
Then I consider his complaint valid.

Great!  Glad we got that sorted.

Wiley.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: fuzeman on September 10, 2020, 11:52:23 AM
Great!  Glad we got that sorted.

Wiley.

I'll bet you a pancake it isn't.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Wiley on September 10, 2020, 12:43:23 PM
I'll bet you a pancake it isn't.

Tell me more about this pancake.  Mix or from scratch?  What kind of syrup?  Sausage or bacon on the side?  I need clarity to decide if I want to take this bet!

Wiley.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: fuzeman on September 10, 2020, 12:45:45 PM
Lets go with a store bought frozen one.
I’ll heat it up for you though :x
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Wiley on September 10, 2020, 12:50:45 PM
Lets go with a store bought frozen one.
I’ll heat it up for you though :x

Wait...  "Frozen pancake"?  I thought Eggos were on the bottom rung, apparently a new low has been reached.  :D

It'll never be sorted unless HT drags the mod out to the public square and flogs him for Moly and Vink's satisfaction.  Since I consider the chance of that relatively low, I am not inclined to take the bet.  But now I want pancakes...

Wiley.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: fuzeman on September 10, 2020, 12:56:48 PM
My apologies. I thought the idea of a frozen store bought pancake would eliminate the urge, and of course... you would decline the bet.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: whiteman on September 10, 2020, 12:58:31 PM
That does it, chicken and waffles for lunch. Also Eggo waffles are great.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 10, 2020, 01:00:44 PM
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Wiley on September 10, 2020, 01:08:34 PM
That does it, chicken and waffles for lunch. Also Eggo waffles are great.

Eggo vaguely waffle shaped objects are something to eat, but they don't compare to from scratch waffles or pancakes.

Wiley.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: whiteman on September 10, 2020, 01:17:43 PM
Eggo vaguely waffle shaped objects are something to eat, but they don't compare to from scratch waffles or pancakes.

Wiley.

Of course not but for what they are , they're acceptable.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: fuzeman on September 10, 2020, 02:02:59 PM
Try honey on waffles, the eating kind, or pancakes. YUM!!
Not to get personal or give Mrs. Waffle any ideas, I’ll leave that to Waffle himself :bolt:
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Wiley on September 10, 2020, 02:17:59 PM
Try honey on waffles, the eating kind, or pancakes. YUM!!
Not to get personal or give Mrs. Waffle any ideas, I’ll leave that to Waffle himself :bolt:

Honey, jam, syrup...  It's all great.

Wiley.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Volron on September 10, 2020, 02:47:25 PM
Bacon Pancakes.

Win/Win!

 :x
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Wiley on September 10, 2020, 03:03:44 PM
Bacon Pancakes.

Win/Win!

 :x

I had successfully purged that earworm from my brain, and you just reinserted it.  Time for another cognitive realignment.   :bhead :bhead :bhead

Wiley.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: avionix on September 11, 2020, 12:21:40 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50331075287_20c04ab679_b.jpg)
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Arlo on September 11, 2020, 12:46:17 PM
Leggo my Emil.
Title: Re: mods and power abuse
Post by: Meatwad on September 11, 2020, 01:09:18 PM
Chocolate chip eggo waffles taste good frozen. Takes too long to cook. Rip the box open and shove straight into mouth