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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: DREDIOCK on July 08, 2020, 08:00:27 PM
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$1,000 hard limit.
That means we cant do the "If you are going ot do that. for a few dollars more" routine If we do that then that money has to be offset somewhere else
Parts suggestions?
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Including monitor and keyboard? I hope not, but several knowledgeable guys come to mind, Bizman and Gman for two.
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No. just the machine
CPU (intel based), MB etc
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Take a look at this gaming pc from iBuyPower. You could upgrade the CPU and/or graphics card and stay under $1000.
https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-10th-Gen-Gamer-Paladin-Daily-Deal (https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-10th-Gen-Gamer-Paladin-Daily-Deal)
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I am going to assemble it myself.
I just need a parts list which they (daughter and wife) want to order through amazon. something about credit card points or something to that effect.
I tell them parts to get. They order parts. I assemble.
I dont stay on top of what parts are hot for the price comparisons which is why I am asking for suggestions. the PC I built myself a year ago I can probably do better now as fast as tech and prices change.
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Next question. Are AMD processors really better than intel now?
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what kind of games is she gonna play. that would help
semp
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She says
Mostly FPS like "Destiny 2" specifically and
Cyberpunk 2077 when that comes out.
As well as some older stuff
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Next question. Are AMD processors really better than intel now?
Not necessarily. Let's say they're seriously back in the business and can give a good bang for the buck. Which is better depends on the task, in this case mostly the games. The older ones especially may work better on an Intel CPU.
For a parts list, go to https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/) for a rough compilation and send it here to be evaluated. Note that you can choose the shops there as well!
Here's an example, including a Windows license:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f8m2yk
CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL13 Memory ($85.78 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($68.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card ($263.67 @ Amazon)
Case: DIYPC Solo-T2-R Black USB 3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.90 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.94 @ Amazon)
Total: $949.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-09 02:48 EDT-0400
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Take a look at this gaming pc from iBuyPower. You could upgrade the CPU and/or graphics card and stay under $1000.
https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-10th-Gen-Gamer-Paladin-Daily-Deal (https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-10th-Gen-Gamer-Paladin-Daily-Deal)
IBuyPower and Cyberpower PC are owned by the same guy.
Every computer that I've purchased since 2001 has come from Cyberpower and I've had no issues or complaints. It's a little more expensive than doing it from scratch but you get to see exactly what you're paying for and you get to make any changes you want. Before they ship it out they test it for a couple of days to make sure it all works right.
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I think Bizman's list is awesome starting point.
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I got real close, I think the 5700 is stronger card than the 1660. I didn’t include the cost of a new Windows 10 license, but if you can find an old win 7 disk you can activate a fresh Win 10 install using its code. With a Ryzen processor, you don’t need to spend extra $$ for a cooler - the stock cooler it ships with is adequate. she's going to need every bit of GPU power she can get to run Cyberpunk, if I understand correctly.
PCPartPicker Part List (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RMjhHB)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nm323/amd-ryzen-5-3600-36-thz-6-core-processor-100-100000031box) ($171.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max) ($124.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16) ($75.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LRkj4D/western-digital-blue-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-wds500g2b0a) ($69.55 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NLPgXL/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-8-gb-red-dragon-video-card-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhroc) ($439.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHmxFT/fractal-design-focus-g-black-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-bk-w) ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BX1 RGB 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rwfhP6/thermaltake-smart-bx1-rgb-550-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-ps-spr-0550nhfabu-1) ($69.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1007.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker (https://pcpartpicker.com) 2020-07-09 21:24 EDT-0400
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be careful when ordering a custom made pc from any site. mobo's sometimes will have to be upgraded due to limits as to ram and or what you plan to use in the future.
semp
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I will be doing the assembly myself.
Both those systems are looking pretty decent.
In finding out what she is wanting to play Im going to concentrate something that runs cyberpunk2077 at the highest possible settigns for the price point since that seems to be the most system intensive from what I've been reading. My thinking is. anythign that cn run that well. Should have little ot no problem running anything else.
Im thinking 1K for the parts. OS will be separate. Monitor, keyboard and mouse We already have or she can get on her own separately if she decides down the line to get new
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Since a Windows license isn't needed, here's another option with about 20% stronger graphics with the cost of a little weaker processor. My guess is that the latter should still be powerful enough for most any games.
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gp4msk (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gp4msk)
CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL13 Memory ($85.78 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($83.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($68.89 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($529.99 @ Amazon)
Case: DIYPC Solo-T2-R Black USB 3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.94 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $1031.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-10 02:43 EDT-0400
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Bizman, I think Parts Picker doubled up on your memory, and while Kingston has the reputation of running on anything, I bet the Corsair Vengeance will work just fine. I wouldn't change the Seasonic but I'd look for a better price and put all the savings toward an RTX 2070 if possible, unless he plans to upgrade to a 2080 later.
Sorry to but-in.
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Personally, I wouldn't use an i3 for a gaming PC, as some of the newer games are very hard on the CPu.
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So far Im kinda leaning to something like this. Since We have the extra cash form the savings of the OS (I'll buy that for her)
Bizmans original listing only swapping out . Or building around these two items.
Good idea? bad?
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card ($263.67 @ Amazon)
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Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card $399 @ Newegg) (%#)$@ the credit card points)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C4Dkcf/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-8-gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n206swf2oc-8gd
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If she's interested in more recent gaming titles I think its a good idea to get a more powerful video card with more memory and ray tracing support like the 2060 Super instead of the 1660.
:aok
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Definitely the 2060 if the budget is not stone carved. And the i5 is most likely a must to feed the more powerful card.
@Easyscor, good catch! I already was wondering why the price was higher despite leaving the Windows license off.
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2060S, not just the plain 2060. At least the 2060S may do limited RT without massive Fps drops like the non-S 2060
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Ok Decided to pretty much go with Bizmans parts list as a base from which to work from
just sent the email to wife and daughter to order 3 parts
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card” $399 @Newegg
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FYrYcf/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super-8-gb-video-card-900-1g160-2565-000
CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.99 @ Amazon)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/28qhP6/intel-core-i5-9600k-37ghz-6-core-processor-bx80684i59600k
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.99 @ Amazon)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HyTPxr/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-edition-420-cfm-cpu-cooler-rr-212s-20pk-r1
Any suggested changes to the following remaining parts?
Motherboard: MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL13 Memory ($85.78 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($68.95 @ Amazon)
Case: DIYPC Solo-T2-R Black USB 3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.90 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Amazon)
Question on the SSD. What kind of slot does that go into? Judging from the picture it looks like a lap top drive..orr it just looks odd.
Never installed an SSD before
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51R-9OWoWYL.jpg)
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another question. I see with this particular CPU it has a designation "Discrete graphics Required"
Does this matter? Particularly in conjunction with the rest of the system?
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@Drediock, that's an M.2 disk. On that MSI motherboard (most likely a pretty standard place) there's a vertical M.2 slot for it between the CPU and the PCI-e slot. There's three threaded nuts for various lengths of M.2 and you need a riser nut at the end of the disk to install it flush with the mobo. It should ship with the mobo so check the package.
"Discrete graphics Required" means there's no built-in video circuitry in the CPU (the motherboard video is powered by the CPU nowadays) which simply means you'll have to install a video card.
And as Denniss said, definitely the Super version.
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Something your daughter may really appreciate is offering to let her help pick out the case. She might like a particular color or style.
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The i5-9600K does have built in graphics -
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134896/intel-core-i5-9600k-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html (https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134896/intel-core-i5-9600k-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html)
Are you looking instead at the i5-9600KF?
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The i5-9600K does have built in graphics -
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134896/intel-core-i5-9600k-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html (https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134896/intel-core-i5-9600k-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html)
Are you looking instead at the i5-9600KF?
Nevermind. Was looking at the page wrong
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HHLX1R8?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
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Something your daughter may really appreciate is offering to let her help pick out the case. She might like a particular color or style.
you can custom paint the case. give it a nice touch. i painted mine blue with plastic cover front and top bright red.
semp
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Like so:
(https://i.etsystatic.com/11987205/r/il/c51e49/2305798181/il_794xN.2305798181_7oi5.jpg)
Source: https://www.etsy.com/listing/780432320/sailor-moon-pastel-silhouette-pc-case?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=custom+pc+case&ref=sr_gallery-1-6
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the card is what we are heing and hawing over. that card is on back order through newegg for $399
Question is. Do we do the back order? or order a card we know is available now?
Is this a better card for $20 more?
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER DirectX 12 GV-N206SGAMING OC-8GD v2.0 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card
$419
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206sgaming-oc-8gd-v2-0/p/N82E16814932250?item=N82E16814932250&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-_-video%20card%20-%20nvidia-_-gigabyte-_-14932250&source=region
The other cards we are considering are..
the one you mention on back order for $399
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 Super WINDFORCE OC 8G Graphics Card, 2 x WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6, GV-N206SWF2OC-8GD Video Card
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206swf2oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932174?Description=NVIDIA%20-%20GeForce%20RTX%202060%20super&cm_re=NVIDIA_-%20GeForce%20RTX%202060%20super-_-14-932-174-_-Product
Orrrrr
NVIDIA - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express Graphics Card $399
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-black-silver/6361329.p?acampID=633495&cmp=RMX&loc=RYpweaQ3HxyOWeM0TbWK8Xs3UkiU6JRVI0l-XM0&ref=198&refdomain=pcpartpicker.com&skuId=6361329
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you can custom paint the case. give it a nice touch. i painted mine blue with plastic cover front and top bright red.
semp
Bizman must have a bug in my house. she was just saying she wants a pink case.
If it were any color but pink. being a painter myself I could easily paint it.
Pink is one of THE most difficult colors to get to cover
No. I instructed her to find a mid to full tower ATX case and lat me look at it first before she orders it.
I definitely show her this case though
Like so:
(https://i.etsystatic.com/11987205/r/il/c51e49/2305798181/il_794xN.2305798181_7oi5.jpg)
Source: https://www.etsy.com/listing/780432320/sailor-moon-pastel-silhouette-pc-case?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=custom+pc+case&ref=sr_gallery-1-6
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the card is what we are heing and hawing over. that card is on back order through newegg for $399
Question is. Do we do the back order? or order a card we know is available now?
Is this a better card for $20 more?
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER DirectX 12 GV-N206SGAMING OC-8GD v2.0 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card
$419
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206sgaming-oc-8gd-v2-0/p/N82E16814932250?item=N82E16814932250&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-_-video%20card%20-%20nvidia-_-gigabyte-_-14932250&source=region
The other cards we are considering are..
the one you mention on back order for $399
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 Super WINDFORCE OC 8G Graphics Card, 2 x WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6, GV-N206SWF2OC-8GD Video Card
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206swf2oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932174?Description=NVIDIA%20-%20GeForce%20RTX%202060%20super&cm_re=NVIDIA_-%20GeForce%20RTX%202060%20super-_-14-932-174-_-Product
Orrrrr
NVIDIA - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express Graphics Card $399
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-black-silver/6361329.p?acampID=633495&cmp=RMX&loc=RYpweaQ3HxyOWeM0TbWK8Xs3UkiU6JRVI0l-XM0&ref=198&refdomain=pcpartpicker.com&skuId=6361329
I chose the card just because it was the cheapest 2060 super from a reliable manufacturer. The Bestbuy version looks like a reference card and for what I've learned they're usually a bit noisier than those with a manufacturer redesigned cooling system. Asus or MSI or Evga are good choices as well.
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Did you kill your last parts post with the Vid card? It seems ot have vanished.
so back tot eh question
Is this a better card for $20 more?
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER DirectX 12 GV-N206SGAMING OC-8GD v2.0 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card
$419
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206sgaming-oc-8gd-v2-0/p/N82E16814932250?item=N82E16814932250&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-_-video%20card%20-%20nvidia-_-gigabyte-_-14932250&source=region
OR
the one on back order for $399
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 Super WINDFORCE OC 8G Graphics Card, 2 x WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6, GV-N206SWF2OC-8GD Video Card
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206swf2oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932174?Description=NVIDIA%20-%20GeForce%20RTX%202060%20super&cm_re=NVIDIA_-%20GeForce%20RTX%202060%20super-_-14-932-174-_-Product
The $419 one is available now. The one on back order.. well, I have no experience on how long that takes.
some part I know wont arrive till the 21st at the earliest
Is the $419 card better or at least as good? Or is it a POS for whatever reason?
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As I said, the one on my list was just the cheapest top tier brand card. The $419 one seems to have one fan more which may make it run both cooler and quieter. Other than that, I can't really tell much difference. My approach to the components has always been that if the manufacturer is well known then the product should do its job.
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The M2 SSD is very simple to install, it goes directly onto the MB and is held in place by one screw. No cables and way faster than standard SSD's = winning.
I was a bit dubious about them too at first but will be getting a 1TB soon as I have some spare cash.
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Yepp. The only caveat is to put the raiser. The first M.2 I saw was already installed by an acquaintance who's been in the IT business for quite a while. I was called for help because the new build didn't boot. We kept wondering why the SSD sat there slanted but since there was no "no hard disk found" message we suspected a technical fault based on how the previous systems worked...
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As I said, the one on my list was just the cheapest top tier brand card. The $419 one seems to have one fan more which may make it run both cooler and quieter. Other than that, I can't really tell much difference. My approach to the components has always been that if the manufacturer is well known then the product should do its job.
The Gigabyte card with 3 fans is a faster card - its Core Clock is 1710 Mhz, which is faster yet than the Boost Clock of the $399 nVidia card, at 1650 MHz. I'd spend the extra $20 and get the faster card. Though the $399 nVidia card is smartly styled and a better looking card (IMO).
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All parts ordered now.
Decided to go with the 3 fan card mostly because of immediate availability
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER DirectX 12 GV-N206SGAMING OC-8GD v2.0 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206sgaming-oc-8gd-v2-0/p/N82E16814932250?Item=N82E16814932250
Went over a bit but I half expected that. I just didnt want to get into one of those "well if we are going to get this. for $20 more you can... " deals and the next thing you know, your $1,000 give or take build, becomes a $2,000 give or take build. I know how projects can sometimes take on a life of their own. LOL
She is paying for most of this herself so I wanted to keep the budget as low as possible . (Must be nice to still live at home and have no major bills and a COVID check coming in)
We... Meaning all of you and I. likely would have kept it to under the $1,000 mark had it not been for the game she wants to play. But. she plays enough games to make the investment worth it. At some point she may get another SDD . Flipping Cyberpunk77 is like an 80Gig file size by itself.
Anyway. All that is now left is her picking a case and waiting on the deliveries.
Thank you one and all for your help. Just know it is much appreciated.
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I would just get a platter drive for large games like that.
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You'll love the M.2. it's fast! It installs like a laptop memory stick, except you may need to remove the hold-down screw, slide it into the slot, then fold it down against the motherboard. The screw holds it in place and it'll never move or become disconnected.
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The Gigabyte card with 3 fans is a faster card - its Core Clock is 1710 Mhz, which is faster yet than the Boost Clock of the $399 nVidia card, at 1650 MHz. I'd spend the extra $20 and get the faster card. Though the $399 nVidia card is smartly styled and a better looking card (IMO).
And that is the card we went with. Though I dont know if there is a huge difference between 1710 and 1650 or even $20 worth of difference.
Like I said it was mostly because of availability so I didnt have to guess as to when the other might be restocked. Not having to worry about that answer was with the extra $20 to me (Im paying the difference for her).
As far as looks are concerned she doesnt care and i really dont care. I mean really. How often do people sit around looking at the components inside the case? They could be as ugly as a nekked Rosanne Barr after a week long drunk on a bad hair day. I only care about if the parts are good and if they are running correctly. LOL
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Didn't care to check further than the looks as the extra speed most likely won't show in everyday performance. What's more important is that the faster chips might be of better quality. They're all made in the same process but those in the center of the batch usually perform better.
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All parts ordered now.
Decided to go with the 3 fan card mostly because of immediate availability
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER DirectX 12 GV-N206SGAMING OC-8GD v2.0 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206sgaming-oc-8gd-v2-0/p/N82E16814932250?Item=N82E16814932250
Went over a bit but I half expected that. I just didnt want to get into one of those "well if we are going to get this. for $20 more you can... " deals and the next thing you know, your $1,000 give or take build, becomes a $2,000 give or take build. I know how projects can sometimes take on a life of their own. LOL
She is paying for most of this herself so I wanted to keep the budget as low as possible . (Must be nice to still live at home and have no major bills and a COVID check coming in)
We... Meaning all of you and I. likely would have kept it to under the $1,000 mark had it not been for the game she wants to play. But. she plays enough games to make the investment worth it. At some point she may get another SDD . Flipping Cyberpunk77 is like an 80Gig file size by itself.
Anyway. All that is now left is her picking a case and waiting on the deliveries.
Thank you one and all for your help. Just know it is much appreciated.
80gb is not too bad, DCS with all modules and terrains might use something like 300gb. :banana:
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Anybody ever mess with a "my book"?. Someone gave me one about 6 months ago and when we found out there was no way to connect it to my wifes ipad I set it aside and completely forgot about it. She wanted to use it to back up here pictures but ther eis no way to connect it.
https://www.amazon.com/Book-Essential-Desktop-External-Drive/dp/B002JMYCTC
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/WD_MyBookEssential_300x300_box.jpg)
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There is a Mac version. The one you have is for PCs/Windows machines.
The Mac version will not work with an iPad either.
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Yes, you plug it in and it works.
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The external drives usually work directly on Windows. For Mac they have to be reformatted. https://support-en.wd.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8200 (https://support-en.wd.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8200) tells you how, and even how to make it work on both.
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Please note that Bizman's parts list assumes you already have a keyboard, mouse, and monitor. If you are upgrading, you probably already have these, but if you're not it will make for an awkward and disappointing finish to the build...
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She had already ordered all that before she even asked me to build one for her.
I could have done all the research myself but that would have taken longer as I dont stay on top of what it the latest and I know folks here enjoy such things so.
We are just waiting on the motherboard and Video card.
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Well..Its alive.
The Mother board and VC FINALLY arrived on Thursday night. Cant say I am super impressed with the service of Newegg these days.
In any event. This is the case she went with and one of the reasons for my post.
Nice case. Fans are VERY quiet especially when you consider how many there are. . Over all a near silent machine..nice Pretty too if you are into the circus of lights bit. Personally. I dont see the point but... to each their own.
Id put up pics of the actual build but I see there is noplace to upload pictures here. I have to admit it looks pretty though as she got a keyboard and desk to match
If anyone else decides on this case (which comes in several colors) a couple minor down sides and things to keep in mind
Downside 1 is we had to get an external CD/DVD drive as this case provides no place for it
Downside 2 is the wiring for the case and fans is a jumbled mess and you may want to re route some things just to tidy it up.
Thing to keep in mind. If you are running a modular PSU do not install the PSU first Get everything in to the case. Plug in the CPU power connector before installing the board into the case. there is VERY little room to fit your hand in if you dont. It can be done. I did it..twice. But you would be better off having one of your kids plug it in.
In any event. Once you have the board in run the wiring back from the mother board back to the PSU THEN install the PSU into the case. That in itself is a tight fit because right next to it is where the 3.5 drive bays are.
Oh why I did the CPU power connection twice?
Because the first time I plugged the machine in, then flipped the switch on the PSU, then pressed the bottom on the top of the case..nothing happened. So. I started unplugging then plugging things back in again before I realized that the power switch wasn't on the top of the case. But in the front. The button on the top of the case is to adjust the led light show DUHH.
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https://www.amazon.com/Apevia-Crusader-F-PK-Full-Size-Tempered-Frostblade/dp/B07TWNNSW6
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CD/DVD was phased out years ago.
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Half the hardware I got came with installation CDs As well as the OS itself
OS
Motherboard Drivers
Video card Drivers.
Would have been kinda hard to install those things without a drive
Not to mention I like keeping options open and we also have quite a view movies on DVD she and I like to watch from time to time.
Some older software too.
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Looks nice, in a stereotypical girlish way :aok
Fans are VERY quiet especially when you consider how many there are. . Over all a near silent machine
That's the good old recipe for a quiet system: More and bigger fans. The more and bigger they are, the slower they need to rotate for a given amount of air to be moved.
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Pretty rig. Just wish I had taken a picture two ours earlier before she started cluttering it up.
I give it a month before there is barely enough room to move the mouse
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Eeeghads.
Id shrink it if I knew how
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That shelf under the tower is a life saver for computers! Even on a hard floor a mere 3" makes a big difference in the amount of dust gathering inside. However, I've repaired a computer with a fried PSU that had been on a similar shelf above a hard floor, a rug being in front of the table. The case was half full of dust, the bunny type!
As for making images smaller I use two tools. One is built in into Windows: The Snipping tool makes a small footprint image of the size you see on your screen, allowing for instant cropping and usable even on stopped videos: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13776/windows-10-use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshots (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13776/windows-10-use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshots). I've also used the Image Resizer, first the original PowerToys version and later the fork: https://www.bricelam.net/ImageResizer/ (https://www.bricelam.net/ImageResizer/)
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Eeeghads.
Id shrink it if I knew how
Modify your post and insert width=800 into the image tag: [img width=800]http://bklah abh akakblah.jpg[img]
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That shelf under the tower is a life saver for computers! Even on a hard floor a mere 3" makes a big difference in the amount of dust gathering inside. However, I've repaired a computer with a fried PSU that had been on a similar shelf above a hard floor, a rug being in front of the table. The case was half full of dust, the bunny type!
As for making images smaller I use two tools. One is built in into Windows: The Snipping tool makes a small footprint image of the size you see on your screen, allowing for instant cropping and usable even on stopped videos: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13776/windows-10-use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshots (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13776/windows-10-use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshots). I've also used the Image Resizer, first the original PowerToys version and later the fork: https://www.bricelam.net/ImageResizer/ (https://www.bricelam.net/ImageResizer/)
I made the shelf with some scrap I had laying around the shop. Im really not impressed with the fan on the bottom designs that are popular in cases now. Heat rises last time I checked and always felt the PSU should be on top even if for no other reason then its less heat that would be passing by the PC components
Not only that but the PSU on top makes it far easier to access if needed
I would have made that shelf anyway even on a hard wood floor. But since there is venting under the case as well I figured it would be especially important on carpet being as carpet can act as an insulator
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It dont want to work.. the hell with it.
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You can still click on the image to get the full size version.
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I think he missed a bracket.
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there ya go..thank you
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Half the hardware I got came with installation CDs As well as the OS itself
OS
Motherboard Drivers
Video card Drivers.
Would have been kinda hard to install those things without a drive
Not to mention I like keeping options open and we also have quite a view movies on DVD she and I like to watch from time to time.
Some older software too.
The method these days is to download the Windows ISO from Microsoft itself, you don't need an install disk, you put it on USB and boot from that. All you need is the CD-Key for activation. If for some reason your network drivers arent working from plug and play, you download them from another machine and put them on the USB as well. Once you have access to the internet you just download any drivers you need. Drivers included on CD are usually out of date from their current releases. Of the 4 gaming laptops, and 3 desktops in my household, only one has a DVD drive, its pretty old though.
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The method these days is to download the Windows ISO from Microsoft itself, you don't need an install disk, you put it on USB and boot from that. All you need is the CD-Key for activation. If for some reason your network drivers arent working from plug and play, you download them from another machine and put them on the USB as well. Once you have access to the internet you just download any drivers you need. Drivers included on CD are usually out of date from their current releases. Of the 4 gaming laptops, and 3 desktops in my household, only one has a DVD drive, its pretty old though.
.... or just enter a windows 7 key from your favorite flavor.
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.... or just enter a windows 7 key from your favorite flavor.
not sure what a windows 7 key has to do with external dvd vs usb
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not sure what a windows 7 key has to do with external dvd vs usb
Thought they were explaining how to get to windows 10. Either way... once it is installed, enter a win 7 key and it is accepted.