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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: TheBug on October 27, 2003, 06:45:40 PM
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How many of the CT staffers actually fly in the CT on a regular basis? And I mean "fly" not man AA guns.
I know of one that does, but am doubtful of a couple others.
How does one become a CT staffer?
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1st you must love LW aircraft, as well as the Ki-67 and N1J2.
2nd you must have a heart of stone.
3rd ignor post like mine :-)
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Saying "Bite me" helps to:)
When their is a vacancy on the Staff we seak out a replacement and sometimes advertise the fact we nead a staffer, we run with 4 full time staffers and prexently have two back up staffer's.
Personaly I have been quiet busy in Real life wrking on a new House over the past few months and hve only realy flow on my set up's, before that going back to almost the beging of AH I have some very Heavy hours in the CT and the MA, please feal free to look up my Stats.
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I did look up your stats and I see you logging no sorties for your "Soccer War". I don't care who developed it you posted it. Sugar coat it all you want, your not doing a good job, imo.
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Hey Bug that setup was mine and due to ISP troubles at home all week long I only got 1 or 2 nights of flying in there and hate I missed it. I think it was a total of maybe 2-4 hours time in there because my ISP seems to hate ADSL connections. So don't take it out on Brady or any other CM. If you have a beef with the setup let me hear it personally unlike what 99% of the other setup whines were for that week.
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I don't have a whine about that set-up. I personally don't like non-WWII based setups but that doesn't mean they don't have a place in the CT.
My argument isn't against this set-up or that. My argument is against people that are running the show that are completely out of touch with the arena.
"Soccer War" was only brought up to make a point, not to slam the actual set-up Reschke. Although I do have to admit, I did not like it. I enjoy WWII historical-based flight sim'ing, I'm sorry but the Soccer War doesn't cut the mustard in that subject. Don't take what I dislike personally.
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I was in the Areana several times and sat in the tower monitoring it during the week, since I have my PC in pices and my flight gear packed at present I was not flying it.
And Bug, you can "Bite Me" :)
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I guess I typed a lot of words to get to the the same sentiment.
Brady Bite me :) Your time is up.
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Well with over 4,000 ours flight time in AH to tour 12 and most likely at least a 1,000 in the tours before that I can say that i did not miss anything by not being able to fly in the last set up, I can also say that instead of pawning off my dutys on another stafer and seting up my PC under a tarp in an unfinished hose so I could do Reschkeys set up I did my duty for the week and the player base, you can piss off Bug.
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For all you past efforts. But I'm not asking ya to try harder. I'm looking for you to get out of the way, step aside and let some new blood in. A lot of people work very hard at their jobs, yet they still don't do them we'll.
I think fresh blood, a new approach and a new found enthusiasm is very much what the CT needs. You're not gonna gain that by perking this plane or that.
Other than that I can only hope AHII ToD gets here and puts you out of business.
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Every Few months we get new blood in the CT Bug, it just works out that way, last time we had a real hard time geting two new staffer's I practialy had to beg one of them to join to fill the whole we had, and this close to AHII and ToD I dont think were going to change anything since as you say our days may well be numbered anyway, and you can still piss off.
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i think CT will still be a viable arena after ToD is up and running (and as long as pizza/bugisles/night are in the lineup)...
one can only advance their mad skillz vs ai drones to a point.
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I try to fly in the CT every chance I get either by myself or every Tue & Thur night when JG 3 takes to the air. When I have a set-up going I "practically" camp out in there. Every time I go in I ask if there are any problems with the arena or has anyone having any troubles so I can keep my eye on things. I think I take my duties as a part of the CT Staff seriously and I try to work to make everything better for all.
As for Brady - yes he can be a pain in the prettythang sometimes :D but you will find NO ONE as knowlegable on the in's and out's of the CT and it's workings or that works as hard to put everything together to make a set-up all that it be and as fair for BOTH SIDES that it can be with the limited plane-set and the historical background of the scenario. Just about ALL the CT Staffer's turn to Brady for info on the arena when there is a problem. Be glad you have him VOLUNTEERING his time.
Sorry Bug, this one is way off base.
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Bug you are an idiot. Brady runs a set up 1 time every 4 weeks. If you don’t like his set ups don’t fly them. This isn’t your personal arena and you aren’t anyone to be catered to.
There are plenty of crappy setups run and there has been from the beginning. The problem with "new guys" on the ct staff is they try to re invent the wheel. Remember the "lets try KS off" week?
I flew in the ct from the day it opened. It has steadily gone down hill over the past year. That’s not the fault of the cms or the set ups but from whiney players who think its their personal arena. Look at the crap Jester took over his ETO set up.
Many in the ct just fly to avoid the main not for better game play or better fights but because they cant hack getting smacked down over and over in a large arena. The fact is the ct plays just like the main with milk runners, gangers, vulchers and whiners. Face it the ct is just a main with less players, less planes and more whiners per square mile. HT ought to just shut it down.
If you want a particular set up done then go research and present it to a ct cm and see if he will run it.
Kanttori and the fins went out and built themselves a set of maps and skins and developed a write up and the cms ran it. Reschke has put together a group of guys to develop themselves particular setups.
Instead of whining about how uncaring Brady is toward your plight get some guys together and get to work.
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"There are plenty of crappy setups run and there has been from the beginning"
So if we dont like one, can we mention it?
"That’s not the fault of the cms or the set ups but from whiney players who think its their personal arena."
Who designed and ran the crappy setups mentioned above?... same whiney players?
"The problem with "new guys" on the ct staff is they try to re invent the wheel. Remember the "lets try KS off" week?"
Now be carefull Batz...that sounded darn close to a criticism of a CT Staffer, thats a no-no here.
"If you want a particular set up done then go research and present it to a ct cm and see if he will run it."
As long as it features 109s, there seems to be no problem there.
"Kanttori and the fins went out and built themselves a set of maps and skins and developed a write up and the cms ran it."
Did it feature 109s?
"Many in the ct just fly to avoid the main not for better game play or better fights but because they cant hack getting smacked down over and over in a large arena."
Have you been flying there lately by chance? you must be an "ace" then!
"HT ought to just shut it down."
Damn!, another complaint, thats two now?
Nobody has to justify their comments about the CT to you. You seem to think that your brand of criticism is somehow "above" all the other, more "pedestrian" complaints that the more common-folk players have here, lol.
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Your squad isn’t special and maybe no one cares what you all want. Have you thought of that? You certainly can whine about it all you want and do. But like Brady said, "piss off".
The 109s aren’t featured any more then any other plane. Hell if anything Pac set-ups were run quite regularly over past few months. This is Jester's setup that he ran at the request of Camo. So I guess you are whining about him again.
But your tard bud isn’t complaining about 109s. He mentioned the Soccer War set up. Which was another player request. Or are you adding a separate whine about this setup?
So much for your pals "Taxation without Representation" non-sense.
I don’t care if you like my criticism or not. Don’t read it. I know exactly where my criticism is aimed. It’s not at the common folk because you and yours aren’t the common folk. You are whiners.
Clear enough?
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Originally posted by TheBug
How many of the CT staffers actually fly in the CT on a regular basis? And I mean "fly" not man AA guns.
I know of one that does, but am doubtful of a couple others.
How does one become a CT staffer?
Not like this, I can assure you. I've got to call you on this one, Bug. Regarding your baseless assursion that the CT staff is not spending regular time flying in the CT, that's pretty silly. I see the other CT staffers on-line way more than I see you, but that's an irrelavent yard-stick to measure the CT Staff's worth. And unless you're regularly on-line, like 24/7, you're blowing smoke with this charge. Checking kills and sorties is likewise not representative, as I and other CT staffers often check in without flying, though we've flown at least some in every set up. If it's an identical set up as has been run previously, and it's not our turn to monitor it, we may be more scarce...but we're not absent.
As for Brady, well...what he lacks in tact (and we constantly harass him on that:)), he makes up for in passion for his subject. It has been my pleasure to work with him for the past year or more. Likewise Jester, Eddiek, Andijg, and Jarbo. , guys!
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"The 109s aren’t featured any more then any other plane."
That shows just how out of touch you really are, not surprising seeing your 15 min in the CT in the last 2 months. Your sole purpose in sticking around the CT board seems to be to promote your childish anti-allied rants.
As for my squad, at least I have one.
Clear enough, Lederhosen boy? go fly an LA-7.
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Lederhosen boy? go fly an LA-7
Ouch, that really hurts :rolleyes:
I dont fly AH at all let alone the CT. The CT has become a displaced persons camp for main refugees. The same gameplay and the same whines. I never thought I would see a guy whining about the 109. Go look up how many 109s were produced and on how many fronts it served.
As for your squad, a squad of whiners is nothing to be proud of. I built up several squads in AH. You can check through the squad scores to see for yourself. Most of them are in III./JG2 or they are flying with in festers squad.
4./JG53 had 10 pilots. I closed it down because I dont fly ah. Both Brady and Fork were in "my squad". I should stayed then 3 of the ct cms would have been in the same squad. I can imagine your whining then. :p
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Well Warlock - exactly what aircraft are YOU wanting featured? I take it it is the Seafire or Corsair as that seems to be 880 Sq.'s main ride.
FYI, before I was requested by Camo to put up this Fin/Rus set-up for their Air Museum event I was going to run the NORWAY 44 set-up so we could bring the Seafire & Corsairs out as well as the late model Spits and Typhoons. The reason for the ETO was the simple fact we had just done a PTO not long ago before the Soccer War.
Also FYI, while I won't elaborate on the details, fans of "Big Blue" will be MOST PLEASED with Eddiek's next set-up so that angle won't wash either.
The CT Staff try to work it where everone gets to fly their favorites. In fact I personally keep the log of every CT event that has been run since the first of the year so we will know the subjects of the latest run events.
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Tactless or not, perhaps TheBug has a valid issue. I fly the CT pretty much exclusively. (I resorted to the MA only briefly during the Soccer War). When I do notice a staffer online, with the occasional acception it's usually not doing what I do most ... and that's flying fighters. Perhaps it wouldn't hurt to have a regular staffer who's purely a fighter jock and flies often?
Much is made of the CT staff being 'volunteer.'
It would appear that at least two current staffers are having serious time/conflict/access issues. And then there was all the wailing and nashing of teeth over the recent resignation/return of one staffer over online bashing.
Now you have at least one person stepping forward, offering to put up with the watermelon -- knowing full well it's no picnic. If the current staffers are so attached to the job that they don't want to step aside for "new blood," how about changing the rotation to 5 instead of 4? Who knows? It might add a new dimension to the offerings ... and it would give you a buffer for the next time someone quits over the crap the community inevitably deals out.
These are my impressions, anyway. You might see things differently, and that's fine. :cool:
Splash1
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No wonder MA #'s are 10 times greater than CT #'s. Every time a player brings up an isssue (or whine as you call it) the CT staff
(or at least some of them) adress the issue by telling the player to "piss off", "bite me", or calling them whiners. Give your heads a shake! If you worked or represented my company, & treated paying customers in this manner, your "prettythang" would be out the door with my boot stuck up it in short order. I'm not one to vent my frustrations on the BBS, but calling 880 a squad of whiners is WAY out line.....
MY suggestion is to spend more time satisfying (or at least trying too) the paying customer, and less time bashing them or defending yourself.
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Jester.
I supported your setup while others attacked you, and I have never said anything negative about you, or your work, on ch.1, or on the BBS.
As for the rest of it, thats between me and "other posters" here.
As for setups, I have made several suggestions, and posted them.
Regards.
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First off my opinion is my opinion and I will speak it if and when I chose, as I surely do hope all CT'ers would.
Count off your hours, tell me how I'm hardly in the CT or maybe a "piss off" suits your style. But none of that will cover up the bad job or should I say lack of a job the CT staff seems to be doing in my eyes.
The fact this thread came around to arguing setups, what planes should be included, who whines for what, blah blah blah.....
Is the surest sign to me that the CT staff is in a rut, a changing of the guard is in order.
My point had NOTHING to do with setups or planes or perks, well other than the fact that this all the CT has become. Hell we could almost automate the CT staffers job, rotate the maps every Friday and maybe every other month use a random number generator to pick the planeset. Can't say that you'd be missed.
My goal was to develop a better community in the CT. Maybe a website for the CT, where articles on tactics could be posted, screen shots, AAR's from the last week's setup etc. etc..
Maybe a CT staffer organizing a "Mission night" organizing the CT squads and individuals that are interested in something more than a furball.
These are just a couple ideas, but they both are something that I haven't seen from the CT staff in quite awhile, involvement and enthusiasm. And maybe a little thinking out of the box. Either you don't have the time or the desire to take it to that level so once again I say step aside and let those that have a higher level of interest in the CT take a chance.
Lastly who the foghat is Batz?? Is he Brady's love child or something? Is he Smithers to Brady's Mr Burns?? Doesn't anyone else find that relationship a little disturbing??
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Batz is a good friend of mine sowome who I have flow extensively with and have know for quiet some time now, we have been in the same squads and have worked together in two of the past two Event's Guadacanal and Okinawal, whear I was CO and he was XO and Vis Versa respectively for the Empire. I respect his openion and Him and while we dont always agree on everything we do see eye to eye on many issues, He was also a CT Staffer at one time.
Bug their is much time and effort that goes into What I personaly do for the CT that is in no way meashurable, countless horus working with map makers and doing reserch for those maps and for Skins and for set up's, literly hunderds of hours this year alone, you have no clue.
While recently it is true I have little time in the CT do to my real world constraints I have still kept up with my work for the CT, I give up my flight time to keep that up when I am crunched for time.
Sabrs right I am quiet tactless at times and I will continue to be so I suspect, I have found It quiet difficult to get anywhear when one is tooo diplomatic and were hear to make good set up's not blow smoke up each other's but, I think you comments above reflect how little apreation you have of the work that goes on behind the sceans and of how much experance I have and the other staffers have both in the air and in the creation of these set up's, I am a very experanced player in everything, I dont say that lightly or with any reservation.
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Warloc, you misunderstand me I think. I was "ASKING" for a suggestion in the above post. I don't pretend to "See all, Know All" or have all the answers. You may have a good idea I can put into play. E-Mail me.
The rest of the info on the post was just for the info of the CT regulars.
Tks for the support - ANY positive is always appreciated. !
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I politely disagree with you Brady.
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Originally posted by Batz
As for your squad, a squad of whiners is nothing to be proud of.
Besides being complete BS, that was totally uncalled for, but considering the source I'm not surprised.:rolleyes:
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To answer the original question, I do frequent the CT regularly, and I do fly. I fly fighters 99% of the time, as that is where my interests lie.
You want to know how to become a CT staff member? When an opening comes up, you contact the CT staff and Skuzzy and Pyro, and let them know, send in an email telling them your experience in Aces High and what your goal(s) is should you become a member of the CT staff. It is up to Pyro and Skuzzy to select who is on the staff, not us.
Then, after you are selected, you learn the ropes of setting up the arena, you try and come up with setups that are fun for players, you try to achieve some semblance of balance, you submit it to the other staff members for debate or discussion, then you post your proposed setup here in the public forum.
THEN..........when your turn comes up, you go in and begin making the changes to the arena. You spend time going over all the bases and getting everything just right (you hope) and you open the arena to the players.
You come back here and read all the flames and negativity from the players, and you ask yourself "Now what the heck was I thinking, taking this job on anyway?"
Then you go back into the arena about a million times over the week to make sure things are running smoothly and the players are happy and having fun. Some are, some aren't. Again, you question your sanity in ever taking on the job of being a staff member.
Staff members are not always on the same page when it comes to the setups. We are not BORG, we are not hardwired into one another's brains. I find myself 180 degrees out of synch with some staff members when we talk about setups, but we stick together in public and try to present a unified front.
Real life sometimes bites US on the butts, too. Lately, I have been travelling so much with my job that I rarely have the energy, much less the time, to log in and play for long.
Small facts I have discovered while I have been on the staff:
1) The CT numbers have always and will probably always remain less than the MA numbers, due to folks wanting to fly whatever they want when they want, and due to the different settings in the arena, i.e. reduced icon ranges, etc.
2) No setup has EVER pleased everyone completely. There have always been and will always be detractors who chime in and give the usual "this setup sucks" comments. You have to grow a thick skin and get used to it, or give up the position on the staff. If you don't, it will drive you nuts.
3) Setups that failed before to draw good attendance numbers the first time are still worth trying again. The AH playerbase is a dynamic one, and changes monthly, if not weekly. Making a few subtle or not so subtle changes can make a world of difference in how players perceive the setups, and that alone affects attendance as much as the big stuff.
4) Players want to be heard, and listened to, and dealt with as people and players. I appreciate feedback from the players, and I try to gather all the feedback and make sense of it and improve my future setups. Sometimes I am not able to improve things, due to lack of more planes, incorrect or unavailable terrains, etc.
Players who feel they are being listened to and worked with on setups tend to be happier players, and draw more players into the arena.
5) Add facts #1-4 together and you arrive back at the "I musta been NUTS to take this on" mentality and you wanna quit and let someone else give it a try.
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well, yes to change the subject ....
can we get rid of nite in this setup and make dusk and dawn about 10 minutes long?
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Originally posted by Eagler
well, yes to change the subject ....
can we get rid of nite in this setup and make dusk and dawn about 10 minutes long?
YEAH!! CANT YOU LOOSER CT STAF LISTIN TO THE PLAYR BASES?!? WE DONT LIK NITETIM!! ITZ GUD FOR NOTHEN! WE PLAYERZ DEMEND EKUAL ATTENTION TO OUR GAMEPLY RIGTS WITHOUT TAXASHUN!!
DO IT NOW TAXASHUN LOOSERS!!
:aok
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I dont fly AH at all let alone the CT.
Out of curiosity, why are you here?
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Originally posted by Shane
YEAH!! CANT YOU LOOSER CT STAF LISTIN TO THE PLAYR BASES?!? WE DONT LIK NITETIM!! ITZ GUD FOR NOTHEN! WE PLAYERZ DEMEND EKUAL ATTENTION TO OUR GAMEPLY RIGTS WITHOUT TAXASHUN!!
DO IT NOW TAXASHUN LOOSERS!!
:aok
well put :)
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The above annoucement has been brought to you by the Poster Child for the US Public School System. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Jester
The above annoucement has been brought to you by the Poster Child for the US Public School System. :rolleyes:
Which one? Brady's? Gotta love the spelling.
eddiek. That was a sane, informative, comprehensive answer to TheBug's original question.
Maybe if that had been tried at the top, this wouldn't have degenerated into a namecalling fest.
Then again, maybe it would have anyway.
Splash1
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I post when I am able to, but lately with my job I am gone from home more than I like, and the hospital system does not allow me to access the AH BBS, so...........
Sometimes I don't get to read things that are written until a day or two (or more) later.
I can understand players's frustrations, as I am a player first and foremost and probably feel the same things they do. But, after 3 years plus in this game, I've moved from making really impassioned posts and remarks to just reading and thinking a while before I respond to things I see in the arenas and in the game in general.
Many ideas that are expressed have merit, but their delivery falls way short. I am as guilty of that as the next person; over time, I have tried to learn more effective ways to get my ideas across.
To each his own, but I hope some guys rethink their posts and how their ideas are expressed BEFORE they hit that little "SUBMIT REPLY" or "SUBMIT POST" button.
Just my two cents...........:aok
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how does one know when they're ready for maturity?
depends.
:rofl
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And that is the extent of Shane's knowledge of maturity. :D
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I didn't really want to post in this thread since the author is a compleat idjit but...
Shane my god I wish I could learn to be as sarcastic as you are.
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Change is a good thing.
Please worship Shane on your own thread, thank you. How pathetic. :p
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Yup, better hang it up here. Ya got me with that one Storch.
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Host: TheBug shot you down.
I guess its getting on his nerves a bit.
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Originally posted by TheBug
My argument isn't against this set-up or that. My argument is against people that are running the show that are completely out of touch with the arena.
so you're saying hitech is out of touch with the game he designed - and is still working on?? i never see HT in the aweenas no mo' :(
what exactly are you getting at here? i mean i've seen nothing specific mentioned, just a general malaise...
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No level of frustration justifies attacking one of the guys volunteering his time in an attempt to bring some fun to the rest of yas.
There are many other things you can do if you don’t like a set up. Don’t fly it, make your own and sell it to a ct cm. You can even call ht and ask that the ct cms be rotated quarterly so some new blood gets a chance at running a few setups. You can ask Skuzzy to add 1 or 2 more CMs.
But simply whining complaining will get you nothing. Nothing is stopping any of you from building a map, or a plane set with historical skins and selling it to any 1 of the 4 active CMs. Nothing is stopping any of you from picking up the phone and calling HT and suggesting that the CT CMs be on a fixed rotation.
Demanding that others adjust what they are doing to suit you and your idea of fun is nothing more then whining. The CMs don’t need to be in the arena to hold your hand and they don’t need to justify anything they do to you.
As I pointed out in another thread, there are those who take it on themselves to get things done and there are those who complain about it. Its obvious to everyone who is who.
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That seems to be a sentiment easy to afford when you are commenting from the sidelines?
As I recall you and some others had a few choice posts on the CAP BB before you quit events completely, being "allied biased" and all...
Spare us the holier-than-thou. You piped up and complained as fast as anybody else in AH about setups YOU didnt like, and any # of other issues as well that concerned you when you actually played the game. I didnt see you practicing your new found etiquette then.
Doesn't IL-2 have a BB?
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Let me tell you about Cap.
In cap I had near 60 (not all at once of course but we maxed 32 and would need to reinvite before each frame depending on who showed up; the cap mailing list had 63 email addys) folks flying in my cap squad. First with the BoB map I explained to the Axis co that the grass fields were set up so that one of the buildings was actually a hangar. I also made a post on the forum. No one listened and it caused problems.
When we moved to NA we were given set of orders that were changed 2 days before the event. The entire frame was re-written (plane set and all) because allied farm bois were spanked handily in first few caps in no small part to guys flying with me. We had near 80% of the axis kills in 1 frame. When we got screwed I argued on behalf of those guys flying with me. I was the only one in my squad doing the arguing. It didn’t help and for that frame only 15 of the 60 showed up.
The next frame they decided to use the Tunisia terrain, which is highly unsuited for events. First the terrain while a great ct terrain is to small with only like 15 miles between bases and as expected it turned into a vulch fest. After that frame 80% of the guys flying me quit cap. I went to the forum and argued again on their behalf, no one else from the squad did so. My argument fell on dead ears so we quit and most have not played another frame.
I did go back and add a "I told you so" after reading the logs of one of the Pac sets up where the axis got like 1 kill the entire frame. For the most part as Cap began to suck I quit and haven’t gone back.
If anything that’s advice you and yours should follow about the ct. You made your argument, no one is listening so you have a choice continue to whine or quit.
There’s no doubt that I will argue a point to death and back but once its settled I move on. I do this in the events I in which I was part of the command staff and I did so on behalf on my squad in both Cap and ToD (now squad ops).
But in those events I brought more folks/squads in with me then most of the others. There are a few guys who will only fly events with us (Brady and I). We make no apologies for that.
Cap is still going on and apparently doing well (I don’t know because I haven’t kept up).
Il2 has several, so does wwiiol. I play both
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"There’s no doubt that I will argue a point to death and back but once its settled I move on"
Exactly. So dont give others a 10 point lecture on how to express their concerns, doubts, or gripes, especially since you dont even participate anymore.
You aren't wearing white here, none of us are.
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I don't think I said I wear white. When I thought things were getting bad with events I volunteered to Co them. The same thing when I volunteered to be a CT Cm. After the past 2 events where there were major arguments over scenario designs I decide to design my own.
But my own hypocrisy aside, this particular thread is about Bugs claim that the cms and in particular Brady owes him something. My post above is simply points out that there are things that can be done with out the whining.
Not all whining is bad and not every whine needs to be pointed out. But in this case I felt obliged. :p