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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Arlo on March 23, 2008, 09:31:29 AM
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This was posted in another thread meant to be a response to Grits regarding setups but as I was writing it, it morphed more into an epiphany, of sorts. So, without further ado:
I've traditionally supported additions to the IJ planeset to bring in more opposition players in a Pac setup. But, to be honest, if an F4U fan, like me, is to see his ride featured in the AvA on more than a rare occurance, HTC would have to model the rarest of late war IJ aircraft (if what I hear most often cited by the playerbase is correct). That's something HT and co are loathe to do for two reasons. First, the smaller player base of Pac war oriented players and secondly their stated desire (with some exceptions, now and again) to model the more commonly used equipment from the war over the more "exotic" and rare.
I think the closest we ever came to having a pure Pac setup that provided something for all fans of that theater was one where we set the Axis side to have pretty much access to every IJ plane modeled off of every island they had a base on and with one additional IJ fleet (cruiser flagship, I believe) and the Allies side to have nothing but the earlier planeset (both US and British - USN, RAAF, USAAC) from the islands closest and the CVs and left the late-war set in a few limited fields further back This made encounters between IJ planes and late war Allied planes more rare and forced Allied players who preferred certain late-war rides to ferry their planes in and practice traditional tactics in their planes to survive.
The complaint that preceded the exodus of Axis pilots that week was that Allied players were doing just that. Ferrying F4Us to the battle, BnZing and ... omg *gasp* ... even refueling and rearming at Allied bases and ships to keep their late war ride in the fight! Eventually VF-17 had to fill in the gaps, switching to fly IJ on one of the most enjoyable and creative, if difficult, setups the arena had seen to date for an F4U jockey. And even then, one or two persistant complainers from the Axis side had the F4U removed from play. IIRC, the staffer who designed and oversaw that setup and who gave in to Axis player demands to remove the F4U cited "Allied player abuse of the design." VF-17 flew the rest of the sutup that week, in spite of what once was considered by them to be actually a preferred enviroment to the MA (even with the pain of ferrying F4Us to the fight) having been turned into yet one more AvA battle with no real place for VF-17.
I tried to be realistic. Hell, I served as staff in the CT. I *know* the playerbase, the planeset and the game design would make a VF-17 friendly setup in the AvA a rare occurance. And rarer it got. So rare you really never see it now. And I doubt the re-formed squad would get behind making the AvA the exception to their persona and flip VF-17 to become a dedicated Sentai for all pure pac sets (like we once even considered - way back). Members of AH's virtual VF-17 squadron joined it because they were fans of either/both the Corsair and/or the historical squadron.
So my frustration with many player created difficulties in the AvA is a long and ... frankly ... tiresome one. There's always been potential there but, unfortunately, I discovered that players who really feel the desire to experience historical immersion in AH (like me) are actually rarer than I previously imagined. Even the ones who claim to like it until it presents too much of a personal challenge or presents too much of a threat to what surfaces as their true main concern - winning the boardgame or having admirable gaming scores, are the exception to the overall community example. (Those who read anything personal into that probably have reason to take it that way, even though it's really a blanket statement covering the entire AvA community.)
I've decided to stop spending a great deal of my time fostering the AvA for now. I wish the current group of staffers and the current dedicated player base the best of luck and I will be stopping in to play from time to time. But VF-17 is (and always was meant to be) a dedicated AHII F4Ua1 Navy squadron created for players who want to enjoy, as much as the game allows, a virtual version of it's namesake. Ironically, the AvA (and it's predecessor the CT) hasn't provided but three memorable instances of that in the five (broken) years of experience I've had there. Sadly (and, honestly it blows my mind to admit this), the MA actually gives my squadron a better chance to enjoy this game ... as VF-17 "The Jolly Rogers" ... even if it's over a map shaped like a uterus and against Russian LA7s and US P-51s (well more P-39s this month). This isn't a protest, it's an awakening. Like I said, I'm a realist. There will never be a practical method of making the AvA a home for VF-17. I think I'd have better luck trying to convince HiTech that TOD/CT needs a Pacific version. :salute :)
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bye bye :rock
Does this mean you're homeless now?
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bye bye :rock
Does this mean you're homeless now?
No, Larry. And it wasn't even aimed at you as an insult. That being the case, I'm glad you responded as maturely as you were capable of. Keep up the good work and carry on the good fight. :) :salute
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I didnt even read your post. Im just ganna wait for the movie to come out. I took from the title that you are leaving the AvA.
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Well, as daunting an effort as it may appear, try reading the whole post before you respond. Then try responding to what the post is about. Or not. It really doesn't matter. I'm pretty satisfied with it, whatever your (or anyone else's) actual feedback is. I'm not gonna lie. I've enjoyed my time in the CT/AvA, for the most part. I've enjoyed both shooting down and being shot down by opponents there (you included) and winging with fellow players there (you included). But looking back on it all now, regarding making VF-17 a viable AHII squad, the AvA can't. If anything, it can only be a hindrance. Does this mean that I (or other Jolly Rogers) are never gonna fly there anymore? Nope. It means what it says. We just don't live there anymore. It'll be more the exception than the rule. *ShruG* Things change. Life goes on. I'm sure you're good with this, yeah? :)
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Sorry to hear Arlo, but you are right on the money.
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Okay now what setup are you talking about?
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Okay now what setup are you talking about?
Hell, TK. It was four years or so ago. The slot map. Entire IJ planeset. Allies had F4U-1s and P38s from 2 bases way back. F4Fs, P40bs, Bostons and TBMs at forward bases with the F4F and TBMs on the fleets. And the IJ players weren't hurting in the zekes all that much ... they were just frustrated because the hogs didn't turn 1v1 as much as they wanted.
Probably sticks out in my mind (like the "Second Wind" setup I promoted and designed) because ... well ... pac setups with the F4U were rare enough for me and meant enough to me for me to remember them.
Again, like I said, I'm a realist. There's no way the AvA can support such a setup on even a semi-regular basis. The player reaction alone killed it. My efforts to support a bigger/better IJ planeset was one of my methods to help see more late pac in the arena. But really, there's only so much HT can and/or will do there. And creative setups in that regard may get a luke-warm reception the first time around but are generally poo-pooed from then on.
The F4U1a really does live in a different arena in this game. VF-17 may have to sacrifice the terrain and opponent immersion but ... the plane just doesn't really make much of an appearance here. And, c'mon ... there's dedicated Luft squadrons (I believe JG54 used to be like this) that just didn't fly AvA when their rides weren't there. I got a squadron to look after. I'll still visit, bro. :)
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And, c'mon ... there's dedicated Luft squadrons (I believe JG54 used to be like this) that just didn't fly AvA when their rides weren't there. I got a squadron to look after. I'll still visit, bro. :)
JG54 doesnt like PTO setups because of what I said in the other thread. Allied pilots hug thier CV ack and come in 10k hight then any axis bird so they can have the speed to run back to thier CV ack. The ONLY time I liked a PTO setup is when the CMs turned the ack setting down so low that you could land on the enemy cv and not worry abour dieing. That ment that all those people that ran to ack got what was coming to them when the enemy came in and didnt have to worry about getting a pilot wound or losing a wing from onw or two pings.
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TK, I'm not promoting it anymore. I'm not slamming you or any other player that feels the way you do or actively objects to late pac setups under any rationalization. I spent a great deal of time forming the first post in this thread and I feel in adequately and, dare I say without looking like I'm bragging, eloquently said what it was designed to. It wasn't a debate. It was a shared realization. I'm too old to tilt and windmills, Sancho. :D
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Arlo,
I can't say how sorry I am to read your post but I understand entirely your decision. You're quite right all the way.
TK, OTOH, proves once more that is nothing but a grammar school bully. Still havenīt learned to read after all these years. Sad. Im my school, bullies didn't lasted long. But then, they were not hidded behind a firewall.
Sad, when all you have on the other side is this.
<Salute> Arlo, good luck to VF-17.
Regards,
Sparrow
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Arlo, hate to seee you go, again.
Good luck with VF-17, <S> Jolly Rogers.
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And <S> to the 353rd! Historical squadrons always have a special place in my heart. It's fine for the ones that are less so and have fun (maybe even make fun) doing it but AHII has been my choice of escape to my grandfather's war and Blackburn and company's exploits. :cool:
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TK, OTOH, proves once more that is nothing but a grammar school bully. Still havenīt learned to read after all these years. Sad. Im my school, bullies didn't lasted long. But then, they were not hidded behind a firewall.
Yep.
You're just made because you get beat up by me all the time.
Not knowing how to read and not wanting to read are two different things. I did'nt feel like reading a book about how he cant fly his F4Us because theres never PTO setups. That whole page could have been said in three or four sentences.
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I can't disagree with anything you've posted Arlo, I much prefer the Allied rides, especially when it comes to bombers, but you knew the situation coming back into the AvA after being a staff member. That's why, as very eloquent as your post is, the reasoning is difficult to understand. You knew coming in, that the F4U wasn't likely to see the availability needed to support a squad based on it because of balance issues in an uncontrolled arena like the AvA. It's as if you're hoping to drum up support to persuade the staff to make it available by posting this.
I think its an understandable wish to fly the same aircraft your grandfather flew, but a more reasonable approach would be to pick a ride that will see frequent use in the AvA and build an AvA squad around that particular ride. That's what most everyone else has to do.
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That's why, as very eloquent as your post is, the reasoning is difficult to understand. You knew coming in, that the F4U wasn't likely to see the availability needed to support a squad based on it because of balance issues in an uncontrolled arena like the AvA. It's as if you're hoping to drum up support to persuade the staff to make it available by posting this.
Too bad, though I made it as clear as possible otherwise, that you got that from my post. It wasn't that I didn't know what the AvA is or even the CT was, it's that I realised my efforts in the AvA have always hurt my ability to support VF-17. As long as you've known me, how strong a presense, in any arena, has VF-17 had? That's why I said the writing of the post, as it progressed, was an epiphany. If I thought there was any chance of AvA being beneficial to my squadron I would make it my one and only arena. And as far as this being seen by you as some sort of manipulative effort on my part of get late war IJ vs F4U pac setups into a regular rotation in the AvA, you must have me confused with someone else and it's a bit disconcerting you don't know me that well.
I'm suprised you guys are putting me in a position to make me explain myself over and over again ... to defend something that's no skin off your nose or mine. I thought this was done very well, without angst or confusion, in just one post. I'd appreciate you just leaving it at that rather than make something worse of it than it is. The only reason I took this much effort to phrase my thoughts and feelings and share them with you is all the time I've spent here both supporting and enjoying the AvA. If you enjoyed my time here with you and you don't have a problem with me not having as much devoted to it upon my recent return to the game then give me a break without trying to break my oysters. :D
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I'm suprised you guys are putting me in a position to make me explain myself over and over again ... to defend something that's no skin off your nose or mine.
Pretty sure you put yourself in that position. ;)
Good Luck with Vf-17 Arlo <S>
Have you considered signing up for the FSO?
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Pretty sure you put yourself in that position. ;)
Good Luck with Vf-17 Arlo <S>
Have you considered signing up for the FSO?
*ShruG* You're right, I pretty much saw it comin' but my current temperment is more casual than ever. Hobbies are mare for fun and relaxation. ;)
I've considered it, once the Jolly Rogers are up to speed and a respected and feared part of the community once again. Even then, FSO required weekly commitment and participation from the squad and, like I said, VF-17 is commited to portraying VF-17 as best it can in the AHII enviroment. :) :salute
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I'm giving you a bad time over two issues. You stated some weeks ago, to paraphrase, that you were coming back to the game to participate in the excitement of the new AvA, yet now, you've implied you're taking a squad of some size out of the AvA over the lack of a ride. I know that you had the foresight going in, that the F4U wasn't going to be available so I don't understand why you resurrected VF-17 as a dedicated F4U squad in the AvA.
I see TheBug has posted while I was composing this. I'd encourage you to try FSO where you're more likely to see the F4U, and you might even have it assigned to your squad but it isn't a sure thing that you'd even be flying Allies that tour.
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Yep.
You're just made because you get beat up by me all the time.
Not knowing how to read and not wanting to read are two different things. I did'nt feel like reading a book about how he cant fly his F4Us because theres never PTO setups. That whole page could have been said in three or four sentences.
TK, try and think for a moment what the AVA would be like with just PTO aircraft 90% of the time. Put away the Allies in the CV ack cliche for a moment. Imagine an AVA that was 90% of the time flying Japanese planes, imagine how uninteresting that would be for JG-54 and the other Luftwaffe fans. That's Arlo's point. Seeing how most of your squadrons historic, and favorite aircraft are included in almost every setup...Maybe you could show a little understanding into not wanting to hang around if your squads rides are never here.
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TK, try and think for a moment what the AVA would be like with just PTO aircraft 90% of the time. Put away the Allies in the CV ack cliche for a moment. Imagine an AVA that was 90% of the time flying Japanese planes, imagine how uninteresting that would be for JG-54 and the other Luftwaffe fans. That's Arlo's point. Seeing how most of your squadrons historic, and favorite aircraft are included in almost every setup...Maybe you could show a little understanding into not wanting to hang around if your squads rides are never here.
Thats the thing. Why make a VF squad when you know theres not going to be alot of PTO setups. Thats like speeding past a cop and then getting POed that he pulled you over.
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I'm giving you a bad time over two issues. You stated some weeks ago, to paraphrase, that you were coming back to the game to participate in the excitement of the new AvA, yet now, you've implied you're taking a squad of some size out of the AvA over the lack of a ride. I know that you had the foresight going in, that the F4U wasn't going to be available so I don't understand why you resurrected VF-17 as a dedicated F4U squad in the AvA.
I see TheBug has posted while I was composing this. I'd encourage you to try FSO where you're more likely to see the F4U, and you might even have it assigned to your squad but it isn't a sure thing that you'd even be flying Allies that tour.
Well stop it. And no, VF-17 is not a squad "of some size." That's really my point. *blink* You been seeing a lot more VF-17ers flying the AvA (in or out of an F4U) than I remember? Maybe VF-17 blossomed during my time away? Well that's good to know. ;)
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Thats the thing. Why make a VF squad when you know theres not going to be alot of PTO setups. Thats like speeding past a cop and then getting POed that he pulled you over.
I was part of VF-17 long before I was part of AHII, TK and really, since I know there's no way you're going to even want to understand this ... much less capable of doing so .... I'll just refer you back to the first post no matter what opinion you have about this. Thank you. :salute
I'm good, how about you? :D
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Why make a VF squad when you know theres not going to be alot of PTO setups.
Maybe that needs to change once if the AVA goes back to weekly historic setups. Why force one side into different planes weekly while the other side gets thier favorites most of the time?
Good point Arlo replace force with HAVE TK ;)
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Maybe that needs to change once if the AVA goes back to weekly historic setups. Why force one side into different planes weekly while the other side gets thier favorites most of the time?
(edit) My bad - saw the "forcing" (and posting from work - not only must I read fast but reponses usually have 22 interruptions). Heh
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Maybe that needs to change once if the AVA goes back to weekly historic setups. Why force one side into different planes weekly while the other side gets thier favorites most of the time?
Good point Arlo replace force with HAVE TK ;)
Then we can see our old AvA with no one in it. Because let me tell you flying in CV ack all week isnt that much fun.
Lets see the list for a PTO setup:
A6M5
Ki61
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Every american plane in the game.
Yep real fun.
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Wow, gee... you gave it a go, and a whole 2 weeks at that!
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You're just made because you get beat up by me all the time.
Not knowing how to read and not wanting to read are two different things. I did'nt feel like reading a book about how he cant fly his F4Us because theres never PTO setups. That whole page could have been said in three or four sentences.
Three simple corrections:
First, when quoting, quote, don't edit.
Second, it's mad, not made.
Third, not be willing to read a book this size, says much about your literacy.
And yes, you're a childish bully. Remember that day a couple of years ago when you tried to boot me out of a public arena (AvA) because it was JG day out in the playground? What a jerk...
Grow up and grow some hair kid, especially where it counts!
Cheers,
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Wow your trying to tell me how to spell because I double clicked the D with the E. Reread your post then talk to me. I dont have to nor want to read that whole page of nothing to understand what hes whining about.
How could I boot you out of a public arena? Back in the day there were many MANY days when there were only JG54 members on, so we would switch and fight each other. If you came in and started picking, like you always do, then yes you would have heard something. So you grow up get some ACM training then come back and talk like you have a pair.
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Gurlz.... c'mon already. Nobody's holding yer hand while you dance through the AAA. That's a choice all of your own making.
:rock
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Yup .... two weeks. Seems longer. Guess it's that "two week" timeloop. ;)
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Wow your trying to tell me how to spell because I double clicked the D with the E. Reread your post then talk to me. I dont have to nor want to read that whole page of nothing to understand what hes whining about.
How could I boot you out of a public arena? Back in the day there were many MANY days when there were only JG54 members on, so we would switch and fight each other. If you came in and started picking, like you always do, then yes you would have heard something. So you grow up get some ACM training then come back and talk like you have a pair.
As much as you'd like to believe otherwise, there was no whine whatsoever from me in this. What's got your panties knotted? No, you don't have to wish me luck or anything. Nor do you have to do what you're doing right now. I told my friends here I'm concentrating on VF-17 ... for a change ... after almost three years of flight time devoted to this arena. If you've decided you're not one then just ignore the post. ;)
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TK,
I just spent 2 hours in the AvA.
I had lots of good kills on you and some of your squaddies.
Thank you.
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Arlo sad to see VF-17 go, I well know the problems with late Navy aircraft as CO of VF27 for quite awhile we knew that we would get the F-6 rarely. Hope you will drop by and fly with VF-27 some, Duke has it up and going again so if you feel like AvA come by and join us for a friendly fight.
Eldo {HiJacker} :aok
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Arlo
I hate to see one of Allies squad leaving AvA, but hope you and your squad will comeback every so often. Having big numbers is always fun.
MUGADAI of the only MUNGADAI WARRIORS
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Will do, Hi ... thanks. :)
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Then we can see our old AvA with no one in it. Because let me tell you flying in CV ack all week isnt that much fun.
Lets see the list for a PTO setup:
A6M5
Ki61
vs.
Every american plane in the game.
Yep real fun.
atta boy, just start making up crap :aok
Get a job
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He's got a job, he's the Axis CO. Sheesh
:P
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No, you don't have to wish me luck or anything.
Okay then... Choke on it Arlo! :D
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Okay then... Choke on it Arlo! :D
LOL. I'll be in the Ava time to time and I'm sure I will. :D
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TK,
I just spent 2 hours in the AvA.
I had lots of good kills on you and some of your squaddies.
Thank you.
Yep I could kill alot of people in a spit higher then everyone too.
atta boy, just start making up crap :aok
Get a job
Yep that was all made up, but its not that far from the PTO setups in the past.
Oh and I have a job thank you.
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Yep I could kill alot of people in a spit higher then everyone too.
So you would rather eveyone flew on the deck? Ever heard the phrase, "Altitude is life"? Why do you think it was considered an advantage having altitude? I'm just curious.
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So you would rather eveyone flew on the deck? Ever heard the phrase, "Altitude is life"? Why do you think it was considered an advantage having altitude? I'm just curious.
Its only ok if he is the one higher. "TK logic"
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:aok
He's got a job, he's the Axis CO. Sheesh
:P
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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So you would rather eveyone flew on the deck? Ever heard the phrase, "Altitude is life"? Why do you think it was considered an advantage having altitude? I'm just curious.
Heres the word of the day "game". This isnt real life when you die you go back to the tower and fly again. You dont need to fly to 10k to fight. Well I should say I dont need to. We all know there are some that feel they are good when they come in with altitude and pick. Kinda like this guy tango who came in on my Ki84 one time from the ackackosphere in his pony, lost all his alt and speed, then ran a sector and a hlaf to his base.
Its only ok if he is the one higher. "TK logic"
You have no room to talk Mr. Vf27k. The only time I ever go above 5k is when Im chasing someone up there. I dont need altitude to fight and kill, but Im not ganna let someone talk trash after they come in 5k above everyone else in a spit no less.
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Yes, no is allowed to trash to talk but you. I forgot about JG54 rule 37 b. subsection 14-1A.
My bad :salute
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I forgot about JG54 rule 37 b. subsection 14-1A.
Whats not being able to shave a sheep with out your pants on before noon on a sunday of a leap year have to do with any of this?
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Why shave them at all, that could cause a velcro failure and they might escape. :huh
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Heres the word of the day "game". This isnt real life when you die you go back to the tower and fly again. You dont need to fly to 10k to fight. Well I should say I dont need to. We all know there are some that feel they are good when they come in with altitude and pick. Kinda like this guy tango who came in on my Ki84 one time from the ackackosphere in his pony, lost all his alt and speed, then ran a sector and a hlaf to his base.
I seem to remember shooting you and Storch down in that Mustang and you guys whining about it. Now you say I lost my alt and speed then ran away? Exactly how can I run away if I lost my speed? Wouldn't that mean I was a sitting duck to your uber on the deck skills in a Ki-84 [which by the way out accelerates a Mustang as well as out turns them]?
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I seem to remember shooting you and Storch down in that Mustang and you guys whining about it. Now you say I lost my alt and speed then ran away? Exactly how can I run away if I lost my speed? Wouldn't that mean I was a sitting duck to your uber on the deck skills in a Ki-84 [which by the way out accelerates a Mustang as well as out turns them]?
You lost your speed and couldnt go back up to the ackackosphere, so you ran all the way back to your base. I bet you were screaming "help me jebus the bad man is ganna kill me" the whole way back to. Sure you killed me in that pony but then again you were diving in while I fighting someone else, but every time you would lose your E you would hike that skirt up and run.
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Whats not being able to shave a sheep with out your pants on before noon on a sunday of a leap year have to do with any of this?
Why do I not get the updated rule books anymore? Sucky customer service if you ask me.
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You lost your speed and couldnt go back up to the ackackosphere, so you ran all the way back to your base. I bet you were screaming "help me jebus the bad man is ganna kill me" the whole way back to. Sure you killed me in that pony but then again you were diving in while I fighting someone else, but every time you would lose your E you would hike that skirt up and run.
LOL
How can I kill you and run away from you at the same time? Which excuse do you want to use?
You also weren't fighting anyone else. You and Storch were circling a vehicle base looking for tanks by the look of it.
Its attitudes like this that is driving players away from the AvA room.
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LOL
How can I kill you and run away from you at the same time? Which excuse do you want to use?
You also weren't fighting anyone else. You and Storch were circling a vehicle base looking for tanks by the look of it.
Its attitudes like this that is driving players away from the AvA room.
Are you dumb or just stupid? You killed me once or twice while I was killing LVTs trying to take the base. You came in from atleast 10k While we were less then 1k. I never said you were killing me and running at the same time thats what your simple mind was thinking. You killed me while I was fighting someone else. i roll again and you try to B&Z, mind you the word try, then when you lost all your E you ran like a little girl. The only thing keeping people from flying the AvA is thier thin skin.
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Its attitudes like this that is driving players away from the AvA room.
WORD!
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Yes, no is allowed to trash to talk but you. I forgot about JG54 rule 37 b. subsection 14-1A.
My bad :salute
I thought that was rule 1 a. subsection paragraphs 1-299. Which directly correlated with all pursuant rules and subsections of the 999 page handbook.
:devil
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WORD!
You sure its not people calling others "f**king lame" or "studmuffin cheaters" on range vox. Nawww that cant be.
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You sure its not people calling others "f**king lame" or "studmuffin cheaters" on range vox. Nawww that cant be.
Why would my MP3 encoder need a file system check?
...and I've never seen a cigarette cheat yet, but I suppose there's a first for everything.
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...and I've never seen a cigarette cheat yet, but I suppose there's a first for everything.
Puck, sometimes you're much to British. ;)
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Are you dumb or just stupid? You killed me once or twice while I was killing LVTs trying to take the base. You came in from atleast 10k While we were less then 1k. I never said you were killing me and running at the same time thats what your simple mind was thinking. You killed me while I was fighting someone else. i roll again and you try to B&Z, mind you the word try, then when you lost all your E you ran like a little girl. The only thing keeping people from flying the AvA is thier thin skin.
It was once and what did you expect me to do, wave at ya and then engage you? Yes its a game but its a WAR game.
As for you rolling when I was supposedly trying to B&Z ya, why would I bleed off all my speed? IF it was me, how did you know it when I supposedly ran to the AI?
Speaking of dumb or stupid, when are you gonna respond in that thread about busting the sound barrier? hmmm
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,229944.0.html
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I didnt even read your post. Im just ganna wait for the movie to come out. I took from the title that you are leaving the AvA.
I'll sum it up for you;
"Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
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It was once and what did you expect me to do, wave at ya and then engage you? Yes its a game but its a WAR game.
As for you rolling when I was supposedly trying to B&Z ya, why would I bleed off all my speed? IF it was me, how did you know it when I supposedly ran to the AI?
Speaking of dumb or stupid, when are you gonna respond in that thread about busting the sound barrier? hmmm
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,229944.0.html
Its a little thing called film. Try Alt R once or twice. You came in picked then when I rolled again you lost all your E trying to B&Z. You then ran off and landed your "kills".
Repond to what? Your squadie trying to tell me how down draft works in real world? It doesnt work that way in this game.
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In all honesty if I was flying and dove on a enemy and lost the advantage my next step would be to regain that advantage in any way.
Also yes I've been out of the loop and rarely flown in the AvA but you can still be rational.
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Its a little thing called film. Try Alt R once or twice. You came in picked then when I rolled again you lost all your E trying to B&Z. You then ran off and landed your "kills".
Repond to what? Your squadie trying to tell me how down draft works in real world? It doesnt work that way in this game.
How does the film work AFTER your dead? Does that mean it keeps filming the area you died at after you are dead? Did you actually look at this film or are you just asuming thats how it happened?
IF I lost all my E after you rolled, then how did I kill you? If I did kill you how did the film show me running back to base if you were dead?
As far as your post in the other thread, its probably because you don't get it.
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You sure its not people calling others "f**king lame" or "studmuffin cheaters" on range vox. Nawww that cant be.
<insert that beating a dead horse pic here>
and i have seen you green weenies typin way worse than that, but you girls keep up the good work! :aok :rofl
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Ok .... mods ... delete this thread, if you will. Not what I had in mind, inspiring a whine-slap and tickle contest. Though I shoulda known better. ;)
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And you consider yourself a veteran AvA'er, hehe how could you expect anything less.
As a going away present pick the one you want me to mentally torment and consider it done. :D
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How about me? :D
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I fully understand your initial opening post, Arlo......
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TC .... I've got guys wanting some ramped up F4U training from guys a bit less rusty than me at the moment. I can talk the talk but the walk's still shaky. PM me some details and suggestions if you get a chance. TY. :)
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How does the film work AFTER your dead? Does that mean it keeps filming the area you died at after you are dead? Did you actually look at this film or are you just asuming thats how it happened?
IF I lost all my E after you rolled, then how did I kill you? If I did kill you how did the film show me running back to base if you were dead?
As far as your post in the other thread, its probably because you don't get it.
OMG you are retarded. <insert that beating a dead horse pic here>
and i have seen you green weenies typin way worse than that, but you girls keep up the good work! :aok :rofl
No I dont think so since when you cuss on 200 is mutes you and doesnt show the message.
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No I dont think so since when you cuss on 200 is mutes you and doesnt show the message.
I can honestly attest to that. Word spacing being a critical factor at times.
(Arlo means to type: "My engines hit" but in his haste accidentally puts the space between the second e in engine and the s and it's sixty minutes of reading "Arlo? What ... you not speaking to me now?" and not being able to even give a check six key.)
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Last week sometime i saw storch calling some of the players (i hope i spell it right) studmuffinscateers.This guys is so very thoughtful to use the word studmuffin and muskateers together.That's a first rate edumacation for ya! :aok :rofl
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studmuffinscateers, hehe.
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yea, now that bug has posted it sparked my memory, the 353rd is who storch was reffering to.
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yea, now that bug has posted it sparked my memory, the 353rd is who storch was reffering to.
I still have a set of black leather Luftwaffe underoos. Storch must have seen me. :D
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studmuffinscateers, hehe.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6465507611936445035&q=round+up+mickey+mouse&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
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OMG you are retarded.
Go and look at your film, IF you even made one. I doubt you did since you say I was in a P-51. My stats show I killed you in a P-47. So i think that pretty much shows that you are assuming alot and not really looking at any film.
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Have I posted in this thread yet? :confused:
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TK, I'm sorry for being so rude in the AvA that one day.
I was being ho'd by a squaddie of yours and I remembered reading all of your recent posts in the AvA.
I wanted to show that you were arrogant and that an "Allie" could easily put you in your place.
I felt very good collecting kills on your squad. I then started to become a bit arrogant myself.
For that I apologize.
<S> TK
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TK, I'm sorry for being so rude in the AvA that one day.
I was being ho'd by a squaddie of yours and I remembered reading all of your recent posts in the AvA.
I wanted to show that you were arrogant and that an "Allie" could easily put you in your place.
I felt very good collecting kills on your squad. I then started to become a bit arrogant myself.
For that I apologize.
<S> TK
we make allowances for abused children, kermit. apology accepted :)
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:lol