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Special Events Forums => King of the Hill => Topic started by: WldThing on October 12, 2002, 12:33:27 AM
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I always wondered why we cannot kill our engines in a fight, when we fly in KOTH... Would someone mind explaining this. We all have a different way of flying this way. In that one night we have to switch to doing throttle control that we normally would do 98% of engine cutting in the MA?
Why cant we fight the way we are use to fighting???
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i'd imagine to prevent people from using it to extend fuel... even at 0 throttle, engine will consume some fuel.
personally i never cut engine in MA... i use throttle... but there are those gamers who do kill engine to decelerate rapidly...
if it were a real engine, that kind of thing would really mess it up... but... ...
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Originally posted by Shane
i'd imagine to prevent people from using it to extend fuel... even at 0 throttle, engine will consume some fuel.
personally i never cut engine in MA... i use throttle... but there are those gamers[/color] who do kill engine to decelerate rapidly...
if it were a real engine, that kind of thing would really mess it up... but... ...
Just my humble opinion but.. I do appreciate the rule.
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turnin your engine off in any fight is dweeby as hell imho.
Every other person in the main does that. Its up there with opening your gear and flaps at any speed in il2 to cause an over shoot. They had a problem with folks turnin their eng off in il2 to cool umm down fast. They fixed that, your eng wont restart.
I know ah is a game but still. 1 button push instantly restarts an eng and you see folks togglin the eng on off otd.
But theres lotsa stuff thats as equally "dweeby". Its your game play how ya want :)
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My only arguement is that I don't believe the WWII planes, to the best of my knowledge, could do it at all... I'm not quoting any sources other than comparing the little I know about todays aircraft. Specifically that a lot require and external 24VDC power source to turn their starters.. Some can use a 400Hz source but I don't believe their onboard charging circuit would produce enough amperage to start the engine reliably. I think HTC should write a code to prevent mid-air restarts...
From the CM perspective, whether we agree or disagree, the rules are the rules. We must interpret and enforce fairly so ALL participants have a fair chance.
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But i dont see how its fair to the people that do cut their engines... isnt it unfair to them? An unadvantage to them?
And IMO fighting Nikis in the P51 isnt real life either, just like cutting your engines wasnt in the war.
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wildthing planes with good accelleration, like an la7, cuts his eng and the increased drag stops him from overshooting. He kills the eng, then turns eng back on and accellerates.
The 109 and 190 you see this as well, same with the f4u and jug.
I admit that you dont see alot of 51 pilots doing, well lets not get into that :)
Like I said this is just another in the list but who am I to tell some who to fly.
I just see the point of getting things correctly modelled if we just look for ways to get around it.
The plane v plane match ups we see in AH may not be what faced each other in the war, but AH aint ww2. However, I think most of us want planes are perform as close as possible to the real thing.
I see the reason for the one button push eng start, who wants to sit otr and run down a check list everytime they wanna fly. But when in a fight thats different because it takes advantage of something that is only there as a gameplay concession to begin with.
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i never cut eng... it's all throttle control.... but then i guess real planes probably didn't like having their throttles maxed/min'd out all the time either.
:rolleyes:
if it's a rule, it's a rule... learn to deal with it in that situation.
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Even tough i think the rule is very stupid IMO, i guess i have to live with it
And its not easy to toggle on/off in a fight, no matter how easy people think it is.
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Gamers. Who needs them. Cheating tards.
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After getting killed by nath with the engine chop many a time, I adapted it myself. :) It works, your plane does slow down faster killing the engine. It's no more gamey than stallfighting at 100 mph flaps down dragging a wing in the dirt. It's just something some of you haven't heard of, therefore it is, of course, gamey. ;)
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Originally posted by WldThing
But i dont see how its fair to the people that do cut their engines... isnt it unfair to them? An unadvantage to them?
And IMO fighting Nikis in the P51 isnt real life either, just like cutting your engines wasnt in the war.
Again, you seem to be the only one that has a big issue with this... I personally don't care either way... But KOTH is designed to provide a level playing field for ALL participants and one of the provisions is that no one can cut their engines.
If there were lots of participants with similar complaints, then I imagine the designer would bough to the populous. However, everyone else seems to be able to manage with their engines on...
As to your second point:
KOTH is a same plane competition, so the NIKI/P51 thing would never happen. As I said before, my opinion that planes shouldn't be mid-air restartable is based on my limited knowledge of planes' electrical systems and will hopefully be factorred into the game in a later revision and apply to all arenas.
--All playing by the same rules is as fair as it gets... I'm sorry if the rules don't suit your personal flying style.---
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Fought AKNimitz in a KOTH when it was WildWensday ... he used it (turned off engine) as CM of event didn't mind it then myself (just cut throttle hit the rudders hard ..... But rules are rules (just make sure you don't rearm on a cv in a p38 :rolleyes:
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It's just something some of you haven't heard of, therefore it is, of course, gamey.
Its alot more then that, you want to list the restart sequence. Killing your eng is as gamey as it gets. Stall fighting while not advisable at lo alts isnt "impossible" But turnin your eng off under 1000ft would be.
Thats may be why a lotta folks gave up on events like this. But what do I know........
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Originally posted by Wotan
Its alot more then that, you want to list the restart sequence. Killing your eng is as gamey as it gets. Stall fighting while not advisable at lo alts isnt "impossible" But turnin your eng off under 1000ft would be.
Thats may be why a lotta folks gave up on events like this. But what do I know........
Would a real pilot fire off most of his ammo to lighten his plane?
Would he sit with his head up against the cockpit glass so he can see down past the nose of his plane?
These are common things some people do to get an edge.
Do you think they're gamey wotan? :)
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Same point im trying to make....
And then the word "gamey" .... isnt this a game??
But i guess its just the way people play the game, that makes them who they are.
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Yes
but none of those are beyond reality
We have a one button eng start up as a gameplay concession. They did this same thing in il2. In il2 people numerous facts that showed how gamey this is and they changed it.
You can fly how you ever want. But the eng off just takes advantage of what is already a gameplay concession.
To lighten a plane up they wouldnt carry max ammo loads. They would remove guns etc. As for the ah view system well thats another gameplay consession.
So is stick stirrind and all sorts of other stuff they folks pull. But fly how ya want that doesnt mean folks wont call like it is.
I dont fly in this event anyway so it doesnt matter to me.
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I guess that's a yes to my question? If so, shouldn't we also stop these other gamey actions? It would be next to impossible to do wouldn't it? That's why I chose to never open up the can of worms of "banning" engine shutoff.
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Yes and no
I would like personally to see a few things "adjusted" but I am not an advocate for change. I offer my opinion of "things" but its up to community as a whole to request change.
If I am the only that feels a certain way about certain things then thats on me.
But that still doesnt mean that turning your eng off in combat is not "gamey".
It is. But theres a whole host of other things that are as "gamey".
But my replies were specifically directed at 1 point. The fact that turning your eng off/on in combat with 1 button push is gamey. You, in trying to rationalize this, brought these other things up.
I never called for it to be changed I simply offered my opinion.
I dont do it. If other chose to, well thats on them. I just call it like I see it.
Lemme ask you this, since you "discovered" this do you use it? I noticed this a while back when I first came to ah. Certain guys would just hand me my arse and I would film it. Times when I thought I had set up an easy overshot the guy on my 6 would bleed e like he hit some air break. After few films I caught on. Tried it myself and was like gd thats how they do it.
After doing some reading I knew early on that this was an exploitation of a gameplay concession. I never brought it up on the board or made any mention of when it happened. I took it with a grain of salt.
But when I saw a thread asking "whats wrong with it" I figured I would offer an opinion.
I adjusted my flying to avoid knife fighting with certain planes like a 190s, 109s, f4us, la7s, jugs and 51s. These planes are the ones that I mostly saw in my films doing it.
As a matter it was a g10 that did it more often then any other.
Its up to the guys who fly here and ht to decide whether it needs changing.
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I just started messing with the engine toggle a few months ago. Sometimes I use it, sometimes I don't.
The engine toggle is only useful in a 1 vs. 1. KOTH isn't a 1 vs. 1 unless you're one of the last remaning planes or fighting by yourself. Generally speaking, bleeding E or going into a scissors in KOTH is something you don't want to do. It's not a big gamey advantage.
Like I said, I'd like to see this corrected in the code.
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Shutting your engine off and on while performing ACM to gain an edge over your opponent is as gamey as carbombing was (HB and Nath did both):D. HTC fixed that dweeby carbombing thing, maybe they will fix this gamey engine thing as well.
I agree that in some form of measured competition like KOTH or WW it shouldn't be allowed.
Could be fixed by setting a time delay of 5-10 seconds after you kill your engine before you restart. ANd then to to allow for accidental shutoff's, just require a 2 or 3 key toggle for the engine.
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So how exactly DID WW2 pilots start there engines? There was no switch, someone outside the cockpit had to do it?
In real life the pilots used every advantage they could. Including firewalling there engine to produce smoke to fool the guy on there 6 that he had been hit and was going down. Also firing the guns producing smoke for the same. Galland specifically.
IIRC there is a certain tale about a P-47 pilot who shut his damaged engine down prior to ditching. After figuring out that he might be able to make it, he fired it back up and coasted back home.
I've heard other stories of pilots restarting there engines in flight after getting out of a bad situation and discovering it wasn't so bad. True, thats not in the middle of a fight to gain an advantage, but did not Corsair pilots drop gear to act as speed brakes?
Read a story just the other day about a 109 pilot who got his bird all smashed up. Flames, oil, parts missing. The jug pilot who tried to finish him off overshot and paid for it. The 109 pilot shot him down. After the 109 pilot ditched, he walked over to the Jug pilot and had a conversation. Not one word about how gamey that was.
Get a grip people.
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Originally posted by Lizard3
So how exactly DID WW2 pilots start there engines? There was no switch, someone outside the cockpit had to do it?
In real life the pilots used every advantage they could. Including firewalling there engine to produce smoke to fool the guy on there 6 that he had been hit and was going down. Also firing the guns producing smoke for the same. Galland specifically.
IIRC there is a certain tale about a P-47 pilot who shut his damaged engine down prior to ditching. After figuring out that he might be able to make it, he fired it back up and coasted back home.
I've heard other stories of pilots restarting there engines in flight after getting out of a bad situation and discovering it wasn't so bad. True, thats not in the middle of a fight to gain an advantage, but did not Corsair pilots drop gear to act as speed brakes?
Read a story just the other day about a 109 pilot who got his bird all smashed up. Flames, oil, parts missing. The jug pilot who tried to finish him off overshot and paid for it. The 109 pilot shot him down. After the 109 pilot ditched, he walked over to the Jug pilot and had a conversation. Not one word about how gamey that was.
Get a grip people.
Find one single reference to any WW2 pilot who shut his engine off in the middle of a dogfite at a very low altitude and I'll say it's not gamey. Otherwise.. ITS GAMEY!
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OK, let's see if I've got this straight....
Ammo/Wotan/Tumor = Gamey
hblair/Lizard3/Wldthing = Not Gamey
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thats a broad brush you are painting me with. I just put forth my opinion is all, which is what is nice about discussion boards.
I personally think that kind of exploitation of the *game* is just gamey, as defined in this discussion. Its also one of the reasons I withdrew from the 2 on 2 tournament. Its just me, I dont like it. I can do it as well, and with practice, I am sure I can use all those type of things to gain advantages on other folks in the arena. I dont impose my opinion on anyone else.
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I was just kidding ammo. :)
I respect yours, wotans and all these other guys opinions as well. I do agree that the engine thing should be corrected in the code if possible.
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Originally posted by Lizard3
So how exactly DID WW2 pilots start there engines? There was no switch, someone outside the cockpit had to do it?
Depending on the aircraft. Some had internal electric starters, others required more external attention from the ground crew.
Originally posted by Lizard3
IIRC there is a certain tale about a P-47 pilot who shut his damaged engine down prior to ditching. After figuring out that he might be able to make it, he fired it back up and coasted back home.[/B]
IIRC, P-47 had internal starter with its own power source. It would be possible to restart the engine.
Originally posted by Lizard3
True, thats not in the middle of a fight to gain an advantage, but did not Corsair pilots drop gear to act as speed brakes?[/B]
They were designed for that type of use. Even if not origianally intended (I don't remember) they were adpated to that use because the forward opening motion and strength of the assembly allowed them to do it without braking.
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Until recently (couple weeks maybe) I had never heard of 'playas' shutting down their engines to force overshoots. Now that I know they do it (Game dweebs) I can understand all those times I went flying past my targets thinking they ran out of fuel or got their engine killed, only to see them still flying minutes later. I always attributed it to HTCs game engine and network connection not working right and not showing the prop spinning or playing the engine sound from the other aircraft.
Any one that uses these 'gamey' tactics just looses a whole lot of respect from me. There is no piloting skill in exploiting a game consession to win a fight.
This should make for an interesting topic in the General Forum....
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Any one that uses these 'gamey' tactics
Hmm Midnight didnt u just confirm that some of the planes in WW2 could actually do all these things like the P47, so why would you call it "gamey" if it was done in R/L??
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No wildthing some planes could restart their eng, thats not the samething as confirming that they shut the eng off in combat :)
Even with the electric start it was still more involved then an on/off switch.
The corsair didnt frop its gear but the gear doors acted as an air break in dives. I have never read where they pulled the "top gun" move.
"I'll open the gear doors and watch umm fly right by".
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Because I HIGHLY doubt anyone would even consider doing it in the middle of combat. If I were about to be shot at, the last thing I would do is turn off my engine in hopes of making the attacker fly by. Even if I were successful in doing it, I would not want to worry about trying to instantly restart the engine 5 seconds later.
Anyone that says they would do it, I challenge to take up a real plane, shut down the engine, pull some sort of crazy maneuver (to simulate avoiding an attacking bandit) and then restart the engine again to continue flying.
Seeing as you fly the Mustang a lot, I am assuming you use this tactic in it as well. Bottom line, there is no way you would shut down a Merlin engine from full RPMs and Manifold pressure and then restart it again at full RPMs and Manifold pressure. No Way, No How.
Aside from blown transmission, busted piston seals, a bent crank shaft, backfiring in the exhaust headers and crushed booster vanes, the entire engine would be flooded out from too rich a fuel mixture. So, even if you hadn't destoryed the engine, it wouldn't start again until you got some more oxygen into the fuel/air mix.
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Here's the ignition sequence for the Mustang... Omit where stating cold engine, as we are obviously talking about restarting hot...
STARTING AND WARM-UP
Ignition switch OFF.
Have prop pulled through if it has been idle more than 2 hours.
Generator and battery switch ON, unless battery cart is being used, then battery switch OFF.
Throttle 1 inch open.
Mixture control in IDLE CUT-OFF.
Propeller control in INCREASED RPM.
Supercharger switch in AUTOMATIC.
Carburetor air control in RAM AIR.
Turn ignition switch to BOTH.
Fuel shut-off valve ON and fuel selector valve to Fuselage tank (if full), or Left Main tank if Fuselage tank not serviced.
Fuel booster pump on NORMAL and check for 8-12 pounds of fuel pressure.
Prime engine 3 to 4 shots when cold. 1 to 2 when warm.
See that prop is clear.
Lift guard on starter switch on pilot's switch panel and press switch to START. Caution in use of starter not to overheat.
As engine starts, move mixture control to AUTO RICH. If engine does not fire, after several turns, continue priming.
WARNING: When engine is not firing, mixture control should be in IDLE CUT-OFF.
Warm engine at approximately 1300 RPM. Check for constant oil pressure. If no oil pressure or low pressure after 30 seconds, shut off engine.
Check all instruments for proper readings.
Check hydraulic system operation by lowering and raising flaps.
Loading 800-850 pounds and unloading at 1050-1100 pounds.
Check communication equipment for proper operation.
Uncage all gyro instruments.
Check both LEFT and RIGHT MAIN and FUSELAGE fuel systems by rotating fuel selector valve with booster pump switch in EMERGENCY. Check for 14-19 lbs/sq. in. If drop tanks are installed, check fuel flow by rotating fuel selector control.
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Here is the shutdown procedure
Booster pump OFF>
Oil and coolant shutters OPEN.
Run engine to 1500 RPM, set mixture control to IDLE CUT-OFF and move throttle fully open.
Turn ignition switch OFF after propeller stops turning.
Fuel shut-off valve OFF.
Turn all switches OFF.
Lock controls.
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I am assuming you use this tactic in it as well.
Dont assume until you confirm. We've fought in MA couple times and you never heard an engine cut, so no need to assume anything.
Or you can film every fight you have with a bish 51 and see if they cut their engine.
I just get upset when people assume.
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So are you denying that you do it in the Mustang? Besides, the way you are arguing for it, how could one think that it is a move you don't do all the time? And with the P-51 being one of your most flown aircraft, one needs to just put 1 and 1 together.
Even if you don't, whatever plane you do it in surely does not some magical engine that could withstand doing such things.
But even putting that aside, if you were in actual real-world combat, would you really consider shutting off the one thing that was keeping your plane airborne?
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When you show me some proof of me doing this or doing it in mutiple occasions, do share.
But you know a pilot like myself that hogs the deck in a 51, you get the sensation of hitting that toggle button, but not on more than 1 occasion have i hit the engine button.
Other than that, i am NOT a Real world pilot that flew Mustangs in WWII, so i would not know if i would do such a thing.
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Actually I watched wildthg and sancho duel one evening in the DA. You probably killed and restarted your engine 15 times during that duel. Bigmax was present as well and on the VOX with me and we discussed this. It was then that I realized how prevelant it is with some of the virt pilots in AH. BM told me that you, fester, and several other "good" sticks were using this to an advantage. I reviewed the film several times to see how you gained an advantage over sancho in those duels. Sancho then adopted using that move as well in the MA and wherever else too.
I amy still have this film, I will take a look. I doubt it though, I recently ckleaned out almost a Gig of films:D Even so, BM or sancho will say that this is true.
What am I saying? No big deal, only that wildthg DOES use this all the time to gain an advantage.
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LOL When was this???
I have been here 1 year in AH, and ive fought so many people, that i dont recall when i fought sancho.
i dont know even know who sancho is.
And that its none of your business to tell me how i fly or what you say im still doing.
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It was recently, and I am not telling you *how* to fly. I dont care. All I am saying is this *is* how you flew that day against sancho in the DA. I would have a hard time believing that you dont remember this or if the fact that you say you don't use this to your advantage. Dont mean to insult you, but bluntly, I think you are lieing. And really there is no reason to lie if that is the case. Like I said, its your choice.
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K it was not recently even if i fought sancho, so i dont know where your gettin that from.
And i could care less what you believe.
And that discussion is over.
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That's BS if you can't shut off your engine in a close fite...
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When its a choice i guess you pays your money and play how you want, personally i never have shut down my engine in combat and am not about to start.
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Better check your story Wildthing.. Rude is stating in the other disscussion over in the General Forum.... You Do it ALL the time :D
I guess I assumed right.
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Why didnt I think of this? Ive got to admit, hearing about this method has caught me slightly by surprise.
I used to play iENs DoA quite awhile back. The Sopwith Camel had a blip throttle. That is to say, the engine was either on full power or off, no idle. Since I was used to having throttle travel from idle thru full on all other rides, I soon developed the technique of turning the engine on and off as necessary during ACM to simulate the variations in power settings that I was used to. I got quite good at it in DoA but never thought about using it when I had a working throttle.
Im quite sure I was shaving a few degrees off my high AoA maneovers because the FM would give me a short increase in nose up attitude everytime I blipped the engine off. I could easily pull inside any Camel that was just balls to the wall full thrott.
I could tell when someone was blipping the throttle as I was. I could no longer turn inside their Camel.
Im going to have to investigate this further in AH. Right now my gut feel is there should be at least 2 to 3 seconds passing before any engine can deliver full power after being shut down.
Now that I think about it Ive always been perturbed at how quickly AH engines go to full power, no delay, no spool up...just Idle to full as fast as you can push the throttle up. Same goes for WEP, instant. Damn..Im getting irritated.
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i didnt read all these posts..dam u gusy say alot...
I di read a few tho...
IN REAL Life PLNES CAN restart ther engines in the air....
Very easy...ur magnetos are off......the wind is turning your prop....
Magnetos on.....Your engine is now turning prop...
I love turning my engine off on the dive bom..I have already used overheated it on wep on my clim..and by the time i finish my dive bom..engine comes back on..and i have cooled down...
heheh SWEETTT
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The reason for not allowing players to turn off their engines is a very simple one. It was meant to keep everyone honest.
If everyone could hear your engine, that meant you still had fuel and could remain fighting.
If we allowed players to turn off their engines, then inevitably someone would take advantage of that and would continue flying even after they ran out of fuel. They of course would deny it and say they simply had their engine turned off. We just elliminated that risk.
Locks don't keep criminals out ... they keep honest people honest.
STICK
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People can't glide forever. :) Eventually they're gonna ditch or auger. Whenever I duel, if I get my engine hit, I feather my prop and try to get in a last shot or two. Nothing dishonest about that at all. IMHO, I think it's a mistake to even care about the engines of participants. If their engine is dead, they're going down eventually. If they can get a kill on the way down, well, good for them. What does that hurt? Am I missing something here?
Just my opinion.
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no hblair..u are not missing anything..u are correct...
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Wldthing needs proof to tell the truth? Here it is. The proof is in the pudding, or in this case a film of him killing his engine during KOTH!
http://www.327th.com/Films/ahfilm.zip
Salute!
KOOL
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Damn 12 year olds.
Get a life KOOL.
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I had a life until some 11 year old cut his engine and shot me down during a KOTH match. :D
Salute!
KOOL
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I can understand the rule as it is in KOTH, .. .i'm not sure it has to be there, but i understand it. THe thing is, especially in the kind of flying I do, I find myself at a great advantage usually when an opponent cuts their engine in the middle of a dogfight, ...
i have never cut my engine, but i certainly have chopped throttle in certain situations to force an over shoot. How different is it in terms of airodynamics?
I would be really interested to fly against someone in the DA who uses engine on/off technique simply to get an idea if this could really be used to an advantage...
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Its not your throttle control abilities that make you a good pilot...
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It's gamey as hell. I REALLY hope HT puts a 30 second delay on restarts. Problem solved.
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Originally posted by BNM
It's gamey as hell. I REALLY hope HT puts a 30 second delay on restarts. Problem solved.
What advantage does one have who cuts his engine?
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and again...IN REAL LIFE U CAN START AND STOP ENGINES...u dum asses
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I like the rules. 95% like the rules. Know what that means? The rules stay.
My main reason for this rule is cheating the fuel method. Don't like it? You're one of the few. People still attend the event and have a great time even with this 'stupid' rules. We won't miss the few that don't attend.
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Just found this thread and area of KOTH discussion, and I guess I'll jump in to offer my opinion.
I try to make the game as real as I can to 'simulate' real flying, which I have no idea what it is really like being a non-pilot.
Therefore I do not cut my engine but chop the throttle to decellerate or prevent too much speed. The only time I ever had to turn my engine off, and I did at times, was when my throttle was acting up and going full throttle with no input from me. I also only did this while landing because it's kind of tough to land with full throttle.
Rules are rules, though and I can see why we have them and for good reason [ ducks to avoid thrown objects ].
Do you try to get 6 cards when playing 5 card stud?
[ 'you' used generally and not at anyone specific ]
I can see HTC doing something to slow down the starting sequence though to 'simulate' real planes.
Oops, I forgot, I also restart my engine in mid-flight, and possibly fight, when I have forgotten to switch fuel tanks to auto and inadvertantly run dry of gas. Hmm, now that I think about it, I recall running dry on one tank, going 'Oops' and switching tanks and have the engine magically restart withOUT hitting anything.
Now I'm even confuzing myself, which isn't too hard to do, by the way.
I was only going to give my 2 cents but I think I rambled and now I'm 4 cents short.
fuzeman
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again....YOU CAN RESTART ur Engines in REAL FLIGHT...
TURN YOUR MAGNETOS OFF....Engine stops firing...Althought props will continue to move...
Turn Key bak to on.."Magnetos on"...and wow..Engines start!!!!
now yes you will have some fouling of plugs and some ohter things..but its not impossible..and not 'Fake as Hell"
Love BiGB
xoxoxo
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Hey now.... my bellybutton isn't so dumb!!!
It always sits when I tell it to :)
fuzeman
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So, yes it can easily be done in flight. In reality, I would not actually want to risk it with someone on your six with guns blazin. :D There is always that chance that your engine might not restart (see the bit about fouled plugs in BGBMAW's post above), and its kinda hard to make an emergency landing while getting shot at.
I think the answer to this is a damage model that takes a small % chance of your engine not restarting due to fouled plugs, etc. and maybe a bit of lost power in the first few seconds after a re-start (while the fouling clears).
Just my opinion, and as for the rule, if its the same for both pilots, then whats the difference, you cant do it, niether can he, no advantage lost, as far as I can see.
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
again....YOU CAN RESTART ur Engines in REAL FLIGHT...
TURN YOUR MAGNETOS OFF....Engine stops firing...Althought props will continue to move...
Turn Key bak to on.."Magnetos on"...and wow..Engines start!!!!
now yes you will have some fouling of plugs and some ohter things..but its not impossible..and not 'Fake as Hell"
Love BiGB
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You a RL pilot? If so, make me an offer.... How much would I have to pay you to take your aircraft up to 300ft, get fast, shut off the engine, throw it into an "edge of blackout" 360 turn and turn the engine back on While coming out of said turn while fighting the edge of the stall you just produced?
....how much? :D
Oh ya, almost fergot... HiTech gets to mount a couple 50's on his ride and blaze away at ya while your doing this.
Oh ya one more thing... can you make me a beneficiary on your Life Insurance first?
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lolo i said nothing liek tht..i just said you can start and stop an enegine in flight...Would i do it how you said..ummmm Hel No..
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