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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Buzzbait on January 30, 2002, 05:34:57 PM
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Hmmmm...... ;)
Is Lazs getting a little insecure?
Is he starting to get worried that the CT will be a success?
A lot of noise out of someone is usually an indication they are feeling threatened by something...
I really am sorry Lazs that you are feeling that way :p
Listen Lazs...
The best thing to do is just not read the CT board.
Hold your hands over your eyes when you log in so you don`t even see the Theater on the Server Available list.
Just click on fly and go to the MA where you will be absolutely (? ;) ) happy...
Pretend we don`t really exist.
Otherwise you never know...
One of these days you might even get suckered into flying the CT and suddenly...
THE HORROR!
You might even like it!
THE HORROR!
:D
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its easy to take offense to what lazs says but the most important part is he is right most of the time.
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Originally posted by Wotan
its easy to take offense to what lazs says but the most important part is he is right most of the time.
He's not necessarily right or wrong, per se, you just happen to agree with his opions.
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Originally posted by Wotan
its easy to take offense to what lazs says but the most important part is he is right most of the time.
Wotan, I'm suddenly very very afraid for your sanity...
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Why the seperatism? This is one reason why the CT suffers in the numbers category. You are to exclusionary.
Read and discern "what" lazs says, not "how" he says it. In the thread he started about a toggle of maps from/to the CT was actually a good idea, whether possible or not. It was inclusive of "all" in AH. Seperate arenas don't work when it seperates the community.
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I find Lazs to contradict himself all the time. He whines that strat players ruin his furball fun...
and the CT is mostly small furballs with little strat involved.
I find lazs in the middle island of NDISLES a lot... massive furballs with so many AC types that it makes the furball be a mad rush to dive in, get as many snapshots as you can and try to turn and burn or exit the furball , get a little alt and repeat to the dive and snapshot routine.. but not in the CT where there's a furball with limited AC types and where this type of furball does not allow for the MA style snapshot/run/turn&burn scenario.
From this I can only guess that he's not interested in any kind of ACM'ing, but just to merely bounce others engaged in fighting someone else and getting an easy kill.
I've heard he's a decent hog pilot.. why not show this in the CT, where the F4U-1 has the spotlight?
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well.... i've watched arenas fail for a number of years now. They do it by being exclusionary. My "motives" for making a format that works for seperate arenas is simple. I like early war planes and I like mid war planes... would like em more if they didn't have to compete with late and perk planes. I feel seperate arenas coming on..
comin on strong as the song goes. I don't really care about the CT per se.. not my cup of tea... too easy and too little action but... Helping make something as lame as a CT work would indicate that an arena with low(er) appeal like an early war arena could also work. I don't really see how my suggestion could have threatened anyone here. It would cause no damage and bring in players.
tac... you have never flown with me and you know nothing about me. Also... I would be interested in hearing an example of me "contradicting" myself. I believe that you are not stupid so I will have to go with dishonest. I know that you know a variety of planes is harder to work against (and with) than a very limited set. You shouldn't allow your dislike for me to make you say stupid toejam.
lazs
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Lazs,
Just shut up about the CT.
You don't know jack about the CT.
You've never flown in it, you don't have a clue what it's like in there, certainly not enough to comment about whether its easy or hard, or whether good fights can be found or not.
.Everything you have to say about the CT is just your own stupid uneducated guess.
You can't back up any of your own foolish ideas with factual personal experience, because for some reason, you are too afraid to fly in there.
You really couldn't do more to sound like a moron than to comment on stuff to such detail that you've never experienced.
Next thing you know good'ol Lazs is going to tell us all what an expert he is about menstruation. Opps, not the best example, he probably is quite an expert when it comes to that.
God knows he sure argues like a woman (a menstruating one at that).
Your a sick bastard Lazs,
The only way that you know how to have fun is by pushing peoples buttons, at that you are the champion. But its something that only a very few twisted individuals would be so proud of.
Its so obvious that you derive such a thrill from being an antagonist, you are so amazingly devoted to it. Its funny that you don't even recognize what a personality disorder it really is.
Get help, man, get help. You have a social disorder.
eskimo
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"I know that you know a variety of planes is harder to work against (and with) than a very limited set"
That is false. The furballs of complete mixed AC is nothing more than opportunistic snapshots and raw dependance on acceleration or turn rate...and luck. They are exciting, but their outcome is hardly based on the ACM skills of the participants.
A furball of 5 ki61's vs 5 F4U-1's will be MUCH more taxing of each pilot's ACM skills than 1 n1k, 3 spits and 1 la7 vs 1 spit,1 109, 1 205 and 2 n1ks (MA furball). And in my opinion, much more enjoyable because its 1 plane type vs 1 plane type, or at best 1 type of fighting (E) vs 1 type of fighting (T&B).
"I believe that you are not stupid so I will have to go with dishonest"
Nice little dance. Got any more? Or should I browse your other threads and read yet even more personal attacks on those that disagree with you? :rolleyes:
"You shouldn't allow your dislike for me to make you say stupid toejam."
I dont dislike you. I pity you.
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Geeze eskimo... relax. you'll end up like poor desillys with a blown vessel. Seriously... You don't like my idea?
tac... bull.. five mixed planes agaisnst 5 other mixed planes is way more chalenging than 5 of one against 5 of another. I have flown plenty of axis vs allied arenas and only having to know (and deal with) the FM's of one or two planes is infinitly easier than the trying to figure out the infinite combinations available with ten different planes. I will admit that luck plays a part in any hectic fur. It allways did.
Like I said... you can't find me contradicting myself and yu don't know how I fly cause you never have flown with or against me. I have seen you a few times and you seem to be the one flying as you describe. Sheesh... and you fly a 38 not some big lumbering hog. All these things point to either stupid or dishonest or both.
lazs
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most of you all talkin crap about lazs posts I never have seen in the ct till this planeset.
I dont think you need to circle the wagons.
Hes correct in that in a main where there are near 400 folks and you have a k/t .0008 and/or a k/d under 1 makes you l337 for flying in the ct.
It takes more "sa" to handle yourself in that big furball then "ho, split esse run to ack" acm that I see mostly in the ct.
Aint nothing special 'bout ct folk.............
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Lazs,
Just shut up about the CT.
You don't know jack about the CT.
You've never flown in it, you don't have a clue what it's like in there, certainly not enough to comment about whether its easy or hard, or whether good fights can be found or not.
.Everything you have to say about the CT is just your own stupid uneducated guess.
You can't back up any of your own foolish ideas with factual personal experience, because for some reason, you are too afraid to fly in there.
You really couldn't do more to sound like a moron than to comment on stuff to such detail that you've never experienced.
Next thing you know good'ol Lazs is going to tell us all what an expert he is about menstruation. Opps, not the best example, he probably is quite an expert when it comes to that.
God knows he sure argues like a woman (a menstruating one at that).
Your a sick bastard Lazs,
The only way that you know how to have fun is by pushing peoples buttons, at that you are the champion. But its something that only a very few twisted individuals would be so proud of.
Its so obvious that you derive such a thrill from being an antagonist, you are so amazingly devoted to it. Its funny that you don't even recognize what a personality disorder it really is.
Get help, man, get help. You have a social disorder.
eskimo
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eskimo... I value your current opinion as much as I value your previous position that , no matter what, we should refrain from personal attacks.
Oh... did you notice that you are repeating yourself?
lazs
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Uh,....no life?
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Why are guys like Lazs spending so much time reading and posting here?
The real question is, "Why is anybody in this forum spending any time at all responding to Lazs' posts?"
He's got some kind of grudge against this type of arena, and he wants it to fail. By responding to him you only encourage him to post more.
If you don't give him what he wants (conflict) then he will get bored and go away and molest bomber pilots or Luftwaffe pilots or some other easier game.
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Originally posted by Tac
I find lazs in the middle island of NDISLES a lot... massive furballs with so many AC types that it makes the furball be a mad rush to dive in, get as many snapshots as you can and try to turn and burn or exit the furball , get a little alt and repeat to the dive and snapshot routine.. but not in the CT where there's a furball with limited AC types and where this type of furball does not allow for the MA style snapshot/run/turn&burn scenario.
From this I can only guess that he's not interested in any kind of ACM'ing, but just to merely bounce others engaged in fighting someone else and getting an easy kill.
I'd be careful here. CT under the present plane set promotes about the worst type of ACM I've happened upon in a sim...ever. Allies simply joust, nothing more. No ACM, no attempt to out maneuver or out think, nothing of the sort, just HO. Its dweebery defined.
Insofar as the entire lasz debate goes, I have no comment and really no concern wrt it. I just wanted to point out that the CT is certainly no jewel of ACM. Quite the contrary from what I've seen this set.
Vortex
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"The real question is, "Why is anybody in this forum spending any time at all responding to Lazs' posts?"
He's got some kind of grudge against this type of arena, and he wants it to fail. By responding to him you only encourage him to post more.
If you don't give him what he wants (conflict) then he will get bored and go away and molest bomber pilots or Luftwaffe pilots or some other easier game."
funked... you've flown with me in "historical" arenas with reduced icon/radar range and you know perfectly well what I have against this kind of setup. If that were not enough... you could simply read what I have written it is explained quite clearly.... And, oh, really... the targets don't get any easier than here... luftwhiners and fluffers? Heck... who do you think populates this arena? Throw in a couple of brits and you pretty much have it.
vortex... i believe you have pegged the problem with "historical" arenas where people become easily familiar with the few FM's and even less combinmations. Every fight becomes the same old "moves" with the newer guys simply dying due to lack of experiance. short icons being more realistic as far as "real" SA is concerned is debatable but certainly we can see much better in real life than on a monitor.
having said all that.... I will repeat.. my suggestions were not meant to harm your arena in any way and would do what I said they would do.... give you some numbers and some new guys... maybe even build up your "core" of players. It was not altruistic, i admit...... I wanted my ideas implemented so that when an arena that was actually interesting and fun came along we would allready have the ideas in place and it woudn't die on the vine like your CT is.
lazs
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Go home Lazsie!
Go home!
eskimo
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Lazs is just doing in AH what he did in AGW and Warbirds... Once he pisses everyone off here (except his squaddies) , he'll just move on. Consider it a bowel obstruction that will someday pass.
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Lazsie,
What I am doing here is pointing out how your "ideas" or "opinions" as you like to call them, have no basis. They are not ideas nor opinions, you say what you think will tick people off.
Calling it a "personal attack" may make you feel better, but everyone knows this is exactly how you speak to others.
Hard to refute the truth, isn't it Lazsie?
Go home Lazsie,
Tell Pa Timmy fell in the well again.
eskimo
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LAZ, Your allowed to speak your opinion, But theres alot of people that are working hard to make the CT work. Yes CT's never really worked in the past, but that was the past, Hopefully soon we will change your mind about the CT. Just give it time for the CT team to work out kinks ,bugs a tweek here, a tweek there, a few "new" and refreshing maps, a few more "new" planes from HTC and I belive the CT WILL soon have the numbers.
I posted last night i was opening a map i will submit to the CT team in H2H, and was looking for people to come in make suggestions and give feedback, that invite was posted to all Including yourself. I will be testing it again maybe tomorrow night, That Invite still applies to you AGAIN!
I think the CT will soon be the norm and the MA will be just practice for the CT. Thats Not an eletist statement. Hell, I hate whoever started tagging the CT people that. The MA has been filled to capacity lately and a new arena is inevitable, why not have a little different "twist"?
NUTTZ
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Come on guys, let lazs be........
He's got a right to his opinion, no matter how "out there" it may be.
I've been hoping lazs would grace us with his presence in the CT and give us a demonstration on how to fly the F4U-1, but seems we are not up to his standards.
C'mon lazs, show up and let us see what your superior SA and ACM can do against an historical adversary, be it the Zero, the Tony, or the N1K2..........time to put up or shut up!
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my cat keeps stickin it's bellybutton in my face.
i dunno why.. it just does it.
i find this behavior kinda disgusting, and when it does it, i give it a quick trans-room flying lesson.
tossing the cat across the room, yelling at it, even when i sic the dog on it, it comes back after awile, and does it again.
nothing seems to discourage it from sticking it's bellybutton in my face.
i dunno why it does that. i may never know.
but, i do know that my cats bellybutton smells just like catshit.
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nuttz.. I agree. with the MA so full you should have(some) numbers. With all the new guys, an arena like the CT with it's simplified SA and easily learned planeset should be a good place for the new guys to break in for the more challenging MA. With the small numbers and infrequent engage3ments and slower pace of the CT, the newbie will be able to ask questions and get help easier. Smaller crowds are more polite crowds as a rule.,
Again, my idea for toggling maps and seamless field choice between arenas would in no way threaten the CT. I am not interested in the CT other than as a test ground for seperate arena's. I would hope that if we have to have seperate arenas for an early war planeset that we could have such a system in place. It would be very convienent for me and many others I believe.
OTOH.. if the appeal of the CT is lack of numbers (and here it get's a little confusing because opinion varies on this) then I can iunderstand the fear my idea has generated. My idea would increase numbers and in would come the riff raff. When (if) you get large numbers it will be larger and even more predictable and bland furballs. A large furball with only one or two plane types possible on each side gets pretty bland believe me. A larger CT will also increase the whining...
I kinda doubt tho that (most) people would prefer any setting that is the CT (especially the axis vs allies) over the MA. WB lost total player base over it. A point that I am sure is not lost on HTC.
lazs
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. (http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/hblair/hblazs.jpg)
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eddeek... maybe you can show me a quote where I said I was a hot -1A pilot? Why are you so hung up on that?
"put up or shut up".... ??? Shut up about my great -1a abilities?? What a twerp you are.
I do ok against the planes you mentioned but it is allways a struggle., The 61 is very dangerous and underated. The zeke is nothing if you want to stay fast and don't engage. the nik is superior in every way except dive and roll and top speed. Fighting those planes and only those planes would be boring beyond belief. lot of posturing... not much fighting.
lazs
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Ahh, yes! I found the quote!
Originally posted by lazs2
I am probably the most bestest -1A pilot this side of the Colorado. If you don't believe me, I will show you some of my L33T SK1LLZ. Also, I like the CT and wish people would give me a big hug 'cause I'm lonely and there's noone here at home for me to argue with.
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One thing you gotta remember when dealing with lazs is he's enjoying all this. He's like your wife certain times of the month. Just likes to argue for the sake of arguing. Truth and facts are irrelevant. So just have fun with him. :)
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Just 3 questions to Lazs:
1) I understand the area arena concept, and IMO it's as good as RPS or perks (although I prefer RPS) but...it's a reduced planeset too...which you don't like in CT. Besides, even if we have an exhaustive early war RPS, aren't you afraid that Spit I will completely dominate the scene in sheer numbers?
2) I flew WB when they put up the axis vs allies arena. Are you really sure that lots of people left at that time because of this? Because MA was never dropped, so people could have gone back to MA after supposedly getting tired of AvA. According to my perception of those events, people left due to
a) bad connects
b) porked FM (109F4 outturning SpitV...)
c) no new planes since months (latest additions were B24, which was a new 3D model on a B17 FM, and F4F3, which was a F4F4 with only 4 MGs...).
d) WBIII was a resource hog (at that time)
iEN seemed unable to add new planes into WB 2.7x, and even to tweak FMs correctly.
3) When do you usually fly in the MA? I would like to fly with you once or twice...if you agree. It should be more constructive than all this BBS exchange of artillery.
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"Why are guys like Lazs spending so much time reading and posting here?"
He likes a target-rich environment.
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laz and vortex are full of toejam.
Ive had some of the best acm fights ive ever had in CT.
I simply cant understand why there is such an aversion to real life matchups.
The CT crew have pretty much kept the MA settings, used the same maps etc and for me personally I find the CT is heading away from what i was hoping for and more towards an MAx2 type of arena.Laz and vortex should love it if the numbers are in there.
Im sorry CMs but you have made no changes to the strat system in CT.I have flown bombers into a base and leveled it but it is quickly rebuilt just like in MA which to be honest i find very frustrating.
Whats the point in bombing? its only use is in an organised capture which is so far from their real use as to be a joke.
If i was CM and if i could make a dang map id make GVs spawn NOT 10 miles from airbases but 5 miles from cities and depots and factories.Id make the Gv wars happen away from most of the airwars (airbases), and id like to fight with tanks in those city streets.Id make structures maybe twice as tough as they are now but rebuild would be extended so that if the enemy destroy your city the damn thing will stay down longer than the 15 mins we have in MA.There are far fewer in CT so to expect us to comply with a system that is designed for 2-300 people is silly.
As it is the CT seems to be MA with limited planes.It has moments of sheer enjoyment but overall my interest is slowly dropping.
And before laz says i told you so Id like to say that this isnt what I personally wanted.
I wanted much more emphasis on strategy and resourses.I wanted a destroyed depot to mean no supplies, a destroyed troop facility to mean no troops (if a bases barracks are destroyed and grunt training is destroyed then guess what? you need to supply the damn things or no more captures better still protect them before destruction).
The unfortunate thing is when 1 or 2 players go into an empty arena and totally destroy all of one sides bases etc.It ruins it.
Instead of a balanced play as you enter you have 1 or 2 spots to fly from.
Maybe what id like to see isnt possible on a 24/7 type arena.You will always get those idiot players who screw around.Well the answer seems to be look elsewhere for the realism fix.
i give up
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Originally posted by lazs2
What a twerp you are.
Heh heh. I belive that expression dates you, Lazs.
- oldman
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deselys.. fair enough. I will answer your questions.
first... I hadn't put forth my "area arena" idea in here. It has nothing to do with the CT. The CT needs to be a seperate arena. In an Area arena you would have all early war planes availlable all the time at all early war fields. mid war areas would have all mid war plaqnes and early war planes available all the time at all mid war fields. late war areas would have all planes available all the time at all late war fields... It would be limited sure... but even the early war area ( the area with the most limited set) would have infinitly more variety than any "historical" axis vs allied slice you could name. As for Spit one.... with it's 303's and slow speed it would not be any big deal for f4f-3's 109e's or a6m2's even p39's could give it a good fight... don't forget mig 1's and p40's... all kinds of variety. It would only be boring if it was axis vs allied.
2) Yes, I believe that lots of people got fed up with the constant and dreary axis vs allied.... They told me so and they posted as much on AH boards when they came here....Like I said it also promotes the kind of whining you are mentioning... every little error is turned into either a huge axis or huge allied advantage.... the errors become even more obnoxious when (as in an axis vs allied arena) all you can fly against is that particular flawed AC. It grates that the enemy is using/gaming that flaw. You can't ignore it like in the MA cause you got no other plane to fight. I also believe that there are enough former WB guys like funked who can tell you that I did indeed do better in the HA than in the main arena... I didn't care about easy tho I cared about fun.
3) I fly from 6-8 pacific time usiually and anyone is welcome to "fly with me" although "fly withj me" is hardly the proper expression. I don't do any organized flying... Nor.. do my squaddies. We may all be headed the same place but we get all spread out cause we never "wait" for each other. Anotyher reason we like the closer fields and CV's. We log off if the fighting is not intense.
hblair.. I have no opinion on your "perk everything idea but pretend it's still a historical arena" concept. I have some trouble with the whole CT "selective realism" thing in any case tho. Selective realism is fine but don't pretend your selections in the CT are any more realistic that those settings chosen in the MA.,
hazed inot saying that it is impossible to use acm in an invironment where the FM's are few and the numbers the same... I simply point out that you really shouldn't have to unless someone is blowing it. You have plenty of time (compared to the MA) to evaluate and not get into a situation where you need any real acm.
oldman... yep, I ain't no kid. Oh, on another note... someone named oldmn said something realy stupid to what I thought was me (he used latzs) I thought it was you. It wasn't you and he wasn't talking to me... Handles are getting pretty confusing. We have some dipshit in the MA going by "laz" but he is "lazer". No point really just we gotta be careful about who we attribute things to.
lazs
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Originally posted by hazed-
laz and vortex are full of toejam.
Ive had some of the best acm fights ive ever had in CT.
I simply cant understand why there is such an aversion to real life matchups.
The CT crew have pretty much kept the MA settings, used the same maps etc and for me personally I find the CT is heading away from what i was hoping for and more towards an MAx2 type of arena.Laz and vortex should love it if the numbers are in there.
Hmm.
I said this camp. And I stand by that 100%. All I saw the few nights I flew were jousts, period (I was always IJN as they had very low numbers when I logged in). That has absolutely nothing to do with ACM. It may indeed be historical, but it was a substantive step back to what one see's in the MA. Hence my previous statement. CT _is not_ a bastion of ACM, no moreso than MA anyway.
Previous camps I've had a lot of fun and a few great fights...and a few not so great fights. Those were different plane sets though. Some work, some don't, and depends on the people flying. Point being is its clearly hit and miss. For certain though you will run into these problems in CT any time you run a PAC camp imo. The nature of the matchup makes the joust the easiest, safest route to go for Allied planes. Accordingly it becomes the norm. At those points the hopes of ACM go right out the window for the most part. *shrug* If you like that though, all the power to you. I'll wait for the next plane set.
Insofar as the last comment regarding me loving it if numbers are there, I'm afraid I have no idea what you're alluding to here, or trying to imply.
Vortex
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Originally posted by lazs2
oldman... yep, I ain't no kid. Oh, on another note... someone named oldmn said something realy stupid to what I thought was me (he used latzs) I thought it was you. It wasn't you and he wasn't talking to me... Handles are getting pretty confusing. We have some dipshit in the MA going by "laz" but he is "lazer". No point really just we gotta be careful about who we attribute things to.lazs
Not the first time we've been confused. In AW I stayed in the full realism arenas (where I was "Oldma" because of the 5-digit truncation), and he stayed in Relaxed Realism (where he was clever enough to anticipate the truncation and hence was "Oldmn"). Moving to AH, with only one arena, has created the confusion. While I believe we both started AW at around the same time (1996), the AH experience has revealed that he is famous and I am not (I think of myself now as a cult figure).
- oldman
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"he is famous"
INFAMOUS is the word that applies best to that idiot.
Westy
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"Area arena" ;)
"Off to your *areas* people!"
"You people in this area, you others over there!"
That would go over real well. :D
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Lazs,
My reference to the F4U-1a is based on the fact that it is your plane of choice. This tour in the MA, over 290 of your 320-odd kills are in the -1a, so that in itself points out that you like the plane.
As for you being a hotstick, who knows? My telling you to put up or shut up was in response to your claims that the pilots in the CT are "lower skill" and it requires less SA and ACM to succeed in there. Your bird is available in the CT now, come show us some of this "superior" ACM and SA you claim to know so much about.
Your summarization of the pros and cons of the Japanese planeset might be pretty close, but I still say you need to come prove it.
"I do ok against the planes you mentioned but it is allways a struggle., The 61 is very dangerous and underated. The zeke is nothing if you want to stay fast and don't engage. the nik is superior in every way except dive and roll and top speed. Fighting those planes and only those planes would be boring beyond belief. lot of posturing... not much fighting. "
Since you are a furrballer, the "stay fast and don't engage" option wouldn't apply to you against a Zeke. The Ki-61 IS dangerous, and is a challenge. The Niki just has to be handle with care. I've killed all of them in Hellcats, Corsairs, and Thunderbolts, and I adjust my style and tactics to suit which of the 3, or which combination of the 3 I am facing at any given time.
Go on, Lazs, try it out. You might find that not knowing what plane you are facing until they are 3.0K away is more of a challenge then the 6.0K ID in the MA. And you might even have fun doing it.
FWIW: If you're gonna call me names, or even reply to anything I say, at least learn to spell. You lose credibility when you spell like a first grade student.
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eddeek.. credibilkity is also lost when you have a tantrum wouldn't you agree?
So...are you saying that if I have a higher K/D in the CT than I do in the MA that it will "prove" that it takes less skill to fly in the CT? I don't say that in any case. I say it takes less SA and ACM and more luck and patience in the CT. If you don't know what you are facing (although there aren't many possibilities) then... How can youi have "SA" if the plane choices are few and all possible moves and combinations are easily learned..... How can you have acm unless someone is blowing it? No way in hell could I get the same K/T in the CT as in the MA tho as it currently is..
I will probly fly the CT when/if you get numbers Wouldn't mind a good furbal anywhere even in the CT. A good fur is more than a dozen planes all (actually) fighting. SA would of course not be strained as much as an anything goes arena but acm would be there. Not gonna log in tho every time the numbers are past 30 in the hope that there "may" be a good fite somewhere.... That is what my "toggle map" idea is all about.
hblair.. in an area arena no one tells anyone anything. that sort of thing is your hangup. An area arena is about choice and parity. No... you can't choose to fly a p51 or D9 against p40's but you can do the reverse. you can click on any "area" of the arena and simply take off in any plane that is available there. If you want to try another "area" simplyu click on one of it's fields.
lazs
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Prove it, lazs, that's all I'm saying.
No tantrums here. I just reply to see what other off the wall response I can get out of you. So far, you haven't let me down yet...........
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"Handles are getting pretty confusing. We have some dipshit in the MA going by "laz" but he is "lazer". No point really just we gotta be careful about who we attribute things to. "
He goes by LAZERR in the MA, LAZ is the BBS.
"laz
Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2001"
"lazs2
Senior Member
Registered: Sep 2001"
I'd say you caused that problem. He's had his handle 3 months longer you've had yours. "Lazs2" :rolleyes: Try changing yours and stop blaming others for misunderstandings.
"Sheesh... and you fly a 38 not some big lumbering hog"
Heh. Guess you havent figured out the only thing the 38 does better than the hog is climb and stall speed handling.
Lol Hblair, dig dig dig :)
"Fighting those planes and only those planes would be boring beyond belief."
How boring, you would actually have to out-fly the other guy(s) in their other plane. Guess flying into a massive furball and blasting someone else thats too busy with 3 other planes on his 6 is better.
"lot of posturing... not much fighting."
Hey, that sounds like you ;) . See you in CT. Ill be in a Ki61 or zeke, your choice.
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Ahh....forget it Tac. He won't show. Lazs is one of the "elite" who won't stoop to flying the CT with it's "lesser skilled" pilots and all that crap. :D
Besides, if he did come in, we'd hear the end of how we "ruined" his fun when we came in and started furrballing where we "weren't wanted". The Lazs and "lots of others" would have a field day telling the world how all we do is furrball in the CT.....oops......did I say furrball? Sheesh, now he WILL show up, since furring is all he says he likes.......
Lemme know what you're flying tonight Tac, we'll wing up, maybe we can survive Lazs' superior ACM and extraordinary SA if we fly together. Ya know, us "lower skill" guys gotta stick together......:p
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But you suck eddiek. That'd give him an unfair advantage ;) (j/k)
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let's turn it around... if the MA is such childs play.... simply having to learn FMs of 50 or so planes and al their combinations... then you should be dazzlers in the MA. I don't see any of you guys in the MA even when you are there. You don't enter these "furballs" and you don't do as well as you should if the MA was so easy. At least in the MA I can be having fun while you are planning my demise.
I am easy to find in the MA but by the time u get a couple enough guys organized to come and get me the fur is over and I am somewhere else. Never having seen your dazzling skill.
I would also say that the ki and nik and hog do about the same in the CT as in the MA. Take my kills and a couple other guys kills off the MA -1a and it is indeed a pretty poor K/D worse than in the CT I bet. A group of ki's in the MA would be very deadly. A very underated plane
And the 38? yeah... all it does is climb ,accelerate, turn and hit harder than the -1A plus, within a few MPH at low alt.
lazs
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f4u-1 turns much better than 38.
Acceleration of 38 only counts in stallfighting, read above.
f4u-1 outdives 38 (38 accels a bit faster in dive initially) and retains E far longer than a 38. 38 and f4u-1 have equal firepower. 2 X .50's = 1 20mm.
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Tac:
In this game the Hispano is worth about 3 .50s.
Hooligan
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neg , 2 .50's=1 20mm. Remember the refire rate on the 50 cal is higher.
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ALL planes are available in the CT now, Lazs.
With the reduced icon range, you have less time to set up your fight, cause you're not sure what planes you are up against. Another reason your superior SA and ACM should show all us lesser pilots up.
Come on, join the fun, Lazs! :D
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you mean I can fight an allied plane against an allied plane just like real WWII pilots did? That would be cool so long as yu fixed the icons and radar so that we could identify planes and find a fight.
But of course, reduced icons and radar are less realistic overall right? I mean, real pilots can see better than us using a monitor and real radar gave alt as well as position.
lazs
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Go Home Lazsie!
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"you mean I can fight an allied plane against an allied plane just like real WWII pilots did"
This proves you really have no CLUE about the CT. The CT hasnt had an allied vs allied plane situation, its always been axis vs. allied planes , PTO or ETO. If at all, only the allied bombers have been used as substitutes in SOME occassions, due to the lack of axis bombers in the game. BUt allied fighter vs allied fighter.. nope.
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well... u did claim that all planes were enabled. I would assume that what was meant was that you could fly any plane against any plane so that you could have historical allied vs allied matchups like the real WWII pilots did. In fact... I would say that 99% of all 1 v 1 fights were allied vs allied in WWII they just didn't get to fire the guns during those fights.
I also don't understand the word "all" as it applies to the CT. it appears that some planes are not enabled.
lazs
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Tac:
1 Hispano is worth about 3 .50s in AH. Read the following for a more detailed explanation.
http://www.lvcm.com/jayb/ahgun102.htm
Hooligan
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"well... u did claim that all planes were enabled. I would assume that what was meant was that you could fly any plane against any plane so that you could have historical allied vs allied matchups like the real WWII pilots did. In fact... I would say that 99% of all 1 v 1 fights were allied vs allied in WWII they just didn't get to fire the guns during those fights."
Lazs, get real! Show ONE, just ONE credited kill of any Allied fighter pilot versus another Allied pilot. Friendly fire kills were mistakes, not intent, just in case you try to slip that in. Just wondering, where did you arrive at this fictitious 99% anyway?
Are you trying to rationalize something?
Mock combat is not the real thing. Robert Johnson talked about mixing it up with Corsairs over Long Island Sound, but that was stateside, and part of TRAINING.
In the CT, all planes ARE enabled. You still have to know the FM's of all 50 planes like you alluded to in another post, but in the CT, they go against their historical opponents.
Lazs, this is getting tiring. If you don't want to fly the CT, then by all means don't. I fly both arenas, but I prefer the CT because of the historic matchups it offers. If that's not your thing, fine. Nothing wrong with that, just different strokes for different folks. Am I being "elitist"? Not that I can see. I'm not telling you that you aren't wanted, I am saying have fun wherever you decide to fly, but don't put down others when they don't see things the same way you do. I don't find your style of play in the MA appealing 90% of the time, but you don't see me running you down or calling you names over it.
Show others a little respect fella.........:)
PS--To those who think my posts and replies are long, I am not upset. I've read Lazs' posts enough to know that he always makes allegations over the slightest thing, and I cover my bases by answering him before he makes the allegations. He is that predictable. ;)
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"Note that the last two columns are also labeled B1-factor and B2-factor. These are the “squeaking” factors. Anyone interested in squeaking about how one particular gun is over or under-modeled verses the others should find these useful"
Bwahahaah. I loved that part. :D :D :D
Im not that bright to understand all that mathematical jumbo. Explain please?
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"....PS--To those who think my posts and replies are long....".
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bowser
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Im not that bright to understand all that mathematical jumbo. Explain please?
The simple explanation is that one Hispano is worth about 3 .50s in AH.
If you really want further explanation of that stuff email me at jayb@exmsft.com and be specific about what part you want further details on.
Hooligan
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Guys, if we keep blasting at Lazs we give him no recourse but to blast back. Hell I mentioned Lazs in a thread I started a few days ago. I think his point is made that he doesnt like the CT,. At least I have come to understand it that way. Okay well it seems to me the guys flying there are happy, and Lazs seems happy in the Main Arena, lets leave it at that. I don't expect everyone to like what I like, Lazs doesnt like it NUFF SAID. Buzzbait I know why you started this thread because Lazs does like to run in here and throw a few turds our way. We throw a few back, and next thing you know we got a two page toejam storm brewing.:p
Let Lazs be.......... Even if he comes in a post an insult to everyone of us, has he hurt anyone? No....... He can only get to you if you let him. He is entitled to his opinion, no matter how much any of us dislike it. I shouldnt have mentioned him in my post last week, he has the right to say what he wants in here, and I should have left it alone. More than that, I shouldnt have let it get under my skin. I am having a blast in the CT, I don't give a rats rear end, if that means the majority of the other players thinks that makes me a good pilot or a bad pilot. The truth is I am not a pilot at all I am just a guy that loves aviation history, and this GAME. It is a GAME, it's to be enjoyed, if Lazs loves a good sparring match in here fine with me, if you love to spar with him go ahead, if you don't though................ Let it go, if he can't find a fight he'll look elsewhere. When you take on Lazs in one of these debates you become a verbal,,, well a written con to him, and Lazs has said many times he loves a good furball. I tell you too a lot of times he makes a good point. One of the A-10 squadrons I was a crew chief for during my Air Force days, had a sign that said " DONT WRESTLE WITH A HOG, YOU BOTH GET DIRTY BUT THE HOG LOVES IT". Lazs loves this stuff, if you want it to quit try letting it go, if you want to fire back.......well, I guess theres gonna be a lot of these two pagers. As much as I dissagree with him at times, i hate to see a two page negative thread about anyone in AH community. GEEZ I been hanging around my Hippie wife too much!:D
Sorry for the long post, was just gonna say lets give ole Lazs a rest.
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lazs didnt start this thread and his idea about being able to go right from 1 arena to another is a good one.
This thread is your typical witch hunt.
"Would all you ct elistists agree that anyone who doesn't like it is a handsomehunk"
then folowed 50 replies of
"why yes hes a handsomehunk"
stfu already.....
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eddeeek... mock dogfites were extremely common but real dogfites were not. Those pilots had a blast just like we do in the MA. They didn't get to fire is the only difference. real air combat was boring for the most part... not near as fun as the mock stuff... The basic difference between an MA and an allied vs axis arena.
I like WWII ac. They are the ultimate prop fighters. I have allways wondered how they would really do against each other just as some of the aces or pilots in WWII surely wondered how they would do against each other. To limit yourself so much as the CT is beyond my comprehension. Why not just script the fights to re-create certain slices of history? Sorta like the Civil War re-enacters or big time wrestling?
lazs (who only uses the word lazs once in each post)
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lazs (who only uses the word lazs once in each post)
Looks like he used "Lazs" more than once in that thread. See? You can't trust anything he says. :D
Seriously though, the Lazs original idea has some merit. I don't see a reason to go to the trouble of coding his arena-jump idea; changing arenas takes no time at all, as Eskimo points out. However, it would be great if you could call up the roster of other arenas from the one you're in and display it on the clipboard. That way you'd not only have know if there was action going on in other arenas (by virtue of the numbers in the other arenas), but also know if your buddies/sqaudies/nemesis was in that other arena.
Sabre
P.S. I've tried to stay out of this one, but just couldn't resist.
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sabre... you have a point but you haven't thought it through. Sure, it takes not much time to switch from one arena to another but it does take a considerable4 amount of time to switch, figure out what the setup is (in the case of the CT), move around a little and call up the roster/map and try to get people to do the same that you fly with.... You could follow what was (or wasn't in the case of the CT) going on and so could your squaddies. You could jump back and forth seamlessly to what ever arena was the most interesting at the moment..
Best I can tell.... what people here have against the idea is that it would allow to much riff raff like myself in without much of an "investment in time". We wouldn't be dedicated or polite and.... I think they know themselves enough to know that with their thin skin the CT buffer would make the MA buffer seem civilized. With more players people would have less time and patience to help the helpless. The skilless would get slaughtered and the CT would no longer be a haven of polite tolerance for them..... The riff raff wouldn't play the way they were "suppossed to" and wouldn't care about the holy grail of axis vs allied...
Everyone has a different idea of "realism" I like the realism of the melee (fur) but don't want the waste of time of high alt or the extreme limitations of an axis vs allied set. Others are only interested in axis vs allied and ignore the fact that 1 vs 1 and lone wolf hunters is extremely unrealistic as is plane substitutions or perk or the strat we have..
With enough players I would join the CT if there was a good low level fur even tho it would get old very quickly with only a couple of FM's per side to worry about but... so what? If i could get in or out of the arena painlessly I would do it. I would still spend most of my time in the MA where there were more interesting and complex fights but...
lazs