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Title: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: molybdenum on February 28, 2022, 03:09:13 PM
That unscrupulous players will sabotage the team they are currently on in favor for the team they are usually on. I'd heard rumors of this before but actually saw it happen today. What happened was....
A bishop crew had managed to white-flag and deack a knight town from a CV. One of the aforementioned autoswitch players (SMcGavin, coincidentally(?) a member of the Elite, a squad in which another member was caught shading red-handed recently) saw what had happened and commanded the boat away from its take position. Eventually a bishop was found who outranked him and took the boat back, and the knight base was indeed taken.
SMcGavin thereupon commanded another CV away from its position defending a port, and the CV had to be taken over by another player who ranked him.
Really. Have people, and has the game, come to this?
Solution! Deny the autoswitch people the right to take command of CVs. Is this a doable thing? If they're really only after perk points they shouldn't care. And the game wouldn't be tarnished by the likes of SMcGavin when he no longer has that ability.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: Arlo on February 28, 2022, 03:30:44 PM
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: oboe on February 28, 2022, 03:47:20 PM
You have to be on a side at minimum amount of time to be awarded perks if your country wins the War - maybe this time limit should also apply to whether you can take command of a fleet. This would effectively eliminate the auto-side switch players from taking control of a fleet.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: guncrasher on February 28, 2022, 03:52:12 PM
how do you catch somebody shading?
semp
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: The Fugitive on February 28, 2022, 03:54:19 PM
If you were a stand-up player yourself, your complaints might be worth looking into for merit; but since you habitually fly off the map to avoid combat in a combat game, it only makes you look like a blow-harding hypocrite.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: molybdenum on February 28, 2022, 04:07:18 PM
He was dumb enough to post my movements ("my source says Os headed for v29"etc) on knight country and some knights were unhappy about it and told me. And took screenshots.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: PFactorDavid on February 28, 2022, 04:19:49 PM
Does anybody really need to cheat for perks?
I've been back for just a few days... I suck... And my perky bank is already building quickly.
If you are running short on perk points, it probably means you spend too much time in planes that earn perkies poorly. Spend a few days flying something a little more challenging and rack up them points.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: eddiek on February 28, 2022, 04:27:53 PM
I either was logged off when this happened, or was too busy doing my thing and having fun to notice.
I find I have to tune 200 to Channel 3 or 4, or when I go to say something on country channel, instead it goes out on 200. Could it have been a simple mistake? I don't know, only the accused person knows.
I like the autoswitch 99% of the time. I play to have fun, not one bit into the win the war aspect, don't pay much attention to what everyone else is doing, nor where a country's assets are at a given time. If I am flying from a CV and get switched, I tend to look for action somewhere across the map from where I just was, just to lessen or eliminate the possibility of being accused of being a spy.
I consider it a courtesy to not fight against guys whose team I was just on, just a weird "honor" deal for me.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: BuzzLightyear on February 28, 2022, 04:39:39 PM
That unscrupulous players will sabotage the team they are currently on in favor for the team they are usually on. I'd heard rumors of this before but actually saw it happen today. What happened was....
A bishop crew had managed to white-flag and deack a knight town from a CV. One of the aforementioned autoswitch players (SMcGavin, coincidentally(?) a member of the Elite, a squad in which another member was caught shading red-handed recently) saw what had happened and commanded the boat away from its take position. Eventually a bishop was found who outranked him and took the boat back, and the knight base was indeed taken.
SMcGavin thereupon commanded another CV away from its position defending a port, and the CV had to be taken over by another player who ranked him.
Really. Have people, and has the game, come to this?
Solution! Deny the autoswitch people the right to take command of CVs. Is this a doable thing? If they're really only after perk points they shouldn't care. And the game wouldn't be tarnished by the likes of SMcGavin when he no longer has that ability.
SMcGavin may be an autoswitch but He wouldnt sabatoge Knights. He flies with integrity.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: RELIC on February 28, 2022, 04:55:06 PM
He was dumb enough to post my movements ("my source says Os headed for v29"etc) on knight country and some knights were unhappy about it and told me. And took screenshots.
dude I used to play in the mornings, I quit after being intercepted by the same 2 or 3 guys. it would happen when attacking long range no matter which country. a few times i read on 200 semp check 6. perfect shading right. except I always did run to the strats high altitude bombing in the mornings and after the first few times they knew it was me.
they knew by just looking at the map. I've been around long enough to figure out who's flying based on what they do. not everybody but a few of them.
semp
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: decoy on February 28, 2022, 05:35:44 PM
dude I used to play in the mornings, I quit after being intercepted by the same 2 or 3 guys. it would happen when attacking long range no matter which country. a few times i read on 200 semp check 6. perfect shading right. except I always did run to the strats high altitude bombing in the mornings and after the first few times they knew it was me.
they knew by just looking at the map. I've been around long enough to figure out who's flying based on what they do. not everybody but a few of them.
semp
Totally agree there are dedicated strat defenders who are good map and roster readers. Good for them, I do that too. What isn't okay is ppl telling squaddies on other teams what someone is up to and where, and players getting jumped based on that intel.
But that's not the point of this thread. A side-switcher who is usually nit used his rank to try to deny base take of nit to bish. And then broadcast the imminent take on 200 to alert his usual teammates to also try to avert the take. Is this really an acceptable thing?
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: guncrasher on February 28, 2022, 07:53:43 PM
Totally agree there are dedicated strat defenders who are good map and roster readers. Good for them, I do that too. What isn't okay is ppl telling squaddies on other teams what someone is up to and where, and players getting jumped based on that intel.
But that's not the point of this thread. A side-switcher who is usually nit used his rank to try to deny base take of nit to bish. And then broadcast the imminent take on 200 to alert his usual teammates to also try to avert the take. Is this really an acceptable thing?
I don't know but I have killed him in another country. I have gotten behind him, several times if he had a shade they would have warned way before.
semp
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: guncrasher on February 28, 2022, 08:09:19 PM
and before I joined my current squad i used to side switch. only country I had problems was bishops, a few always accused me of being a spy. some didnt care. some are just paranoid, i guess.
btw, arent those who sent you the info and took screen shots also your shades? curious about that.
semp
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: SPKmes on February 28, 2022, 08:57:28 PM
Is it still 3 x the perkies... I thought that had changed
Sometimes people just broadcast on 200 to try and stir things up...Why is it so difficult to do things the old way...you know with defenders... it seems to be the way now... stealth takes or none at all... I get sick of upping at a field where there is a plane deacking the field only to run away at the first instance of another player...they don't even finish the task they arrived for...
the person you called out does this type of thing alot he will even broadcast what plane he is in.... he just wants action and he thinks he will destroy you... maybe he does ..maybe not... but at least he sometimes he gets some action.
Blows my mind that people would rather fight ai guns than interact... although... it is a different story if they have the numbers.... oh boy are they the ace pilot or what
somebody should make a special arena for the undefended base takers... they can roll against the timer... could even make it a squad based competition... roll up roll up... see who is the best undefended base taking mob...
I am on auto switch purely because the main time I am on there is one side that has three times the numbers ...and they just roll and roll and roll ... upping against them is futile...but it can be fun just to inconvenience them...even if it is for just one M3 run
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: SIK1 on February 28, 2022, 09:28:37 PM
How does on opt in to the auto switch? Asking for a friend.
Bring up the clipboard, go into the O'club, select change country, click on Automatically Select Smallest Country. You'll get a warning that you won't be able to switch countries for six hours click accept, and there you go.
:salute Sik
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: 1ijac on March 01, 2022, 12:34:31 AM
This is not the place to make accusations about another player .... Send your complaints to hitech and move on.
One-eye
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 01, 2022, 06:03:49 AM
First you put on your tin hat and tune it to alphacentron497, then......
:D
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: mERv on March 01, 2022, 09:17:22 PM
The highest levels of integrity for the game can only be achieved by the individuals who participate in it. The lack there of has been an issue for as long as I have played. One must work to achieve such a level of skill as to not be affected by the immoral actions of a few despot players in order to overcome any adversity that might mitigate the outcome of one's objectives and success.
In other words get good and you need not worry if you are shaded or if someone runs a cv into the bottom of the ocean.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: Shuffler on March 02, 2022, 12:13:06 PM
If they locked it so that you could not switch sides, one can always figure out a way around it. This happened temporarily some years back and I found a way. I looked into a mirror to see what I saw, took the saw and cut my desk in half, put the two halves back together to make a wHole.... and climbed through it. Pretty simple really.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 02, 2022, 03:49:54 PM
I meant it as a joke but there's people outthere that may think what else have they shared?
semp
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: PFactorDavid on March 02, 2022, 06:31:51 PM
I'm switching sides almost daily, just looking to put myself into situations with little to no E advantage... That's pretty easy. Surviving is hard, but how will I ever improve if I dont try.
But spy?
I don't give a rats behind who wins a map. Ever.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: SPKmes on March 02, 2022, 07:10:18 PM
the people that do out number the people who don't these days Pfactor...there inlies the problem... fighters are far and few between now
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: PFactorDavid on March 02, 2022, 07:43:03 PM
the people that do out number the people who don't these days Pfactor...there inlies the problem... fighters are far and few between now
I dunno... I've been ganged and picked by a lot of the "fighters" in the last week.... Same as it was 10 years ago. Whatever really. Honestly, I've been surprised by the number of names that I recognize after so long... Unsurprised that most of them still fly in groups at high altitude to snatch kills from the edges of the furballs... We all do it. We all justify it in one way or another. It's actually more historically accurate, honestly.
Give me a CV offshore attacking an airfield everytime... Furball excitement, xquick re-ups... Take chances, enjoy.
I honestly dont understand why anyone wants to spend 10 minutes climbing out to pick low e targets in a furball instead of getting into it and mixing it up...
But thats the great thing about AH3... Have fun in your own way... If it pisses me off, I guess I had better figure out how to piss you off back.
I'm ok with that
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 02, 2022, 10:27:14 PM
I meant it as a joke but there's people outthere that may think what else have they shared?
semp
Sorry semp, I failed to see the sarcasm note. :D
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: Eagler on March 03, 2022, 07:58:36 AM
I switch all the time..
I then fly to the largest fight regardless of who is in it
Eagler
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: oTRALFZo on March 03, 2022, 12:01:00 PM
OHHHHHHHHHH THE HORROR!!!
I can already tell by the quality of this whine that MCGavin moved the CV from the feet dry spawn which in my mind is a very lame glitch to the game used both in offense and defense.
If your main interest is base taking with no opposition, flying off the map (for again, fear of opposition) or glitching the game by doing nothing but dropping field supplies so it is impossible to capture. May we perhaps offer you to play offline?
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 03, 2022, 01:51:23 PM
I can already tell by the quality of this whine that MCGavin moved the CV from the feet dry spawn which in my mind is a very lame glitch to the game used both in offense and defense.
If your main interest is base taking with no opposition, flying off the map (for again, fear of opposition) or glitching the game by doing nothing but dropping field supplies so it is impossible to capture. May we perhaps offer you to play offline?
Lame excuse, feet dry spawn or not. Unjustified period.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: Arlo on March 03, 2022, 02:36:36 PM
My viewpoint on CVs when I was playing was the rationalization of tactics by players was a bit odd and, at times, highly emotional. Driving CVs onto the beach was almost always a sure fire was to get the task force sunk. If you can muster the number of aircraft (along with skilled players) to make an efficient attack/capture of an enemy airfield you can do it by launching outside of the dar ring (IMO you should). When I took control of a TF I always reconfigured the waypoints to be not as close. Of course that would often result in another player taking control and changing the waypoints back (even if I explained my reasoning. And woe be it if I took off from a CV as it approached the designated target to CAP because I'll be seen. SMDH *chuckle*
Everyone imagines cheaters everywhere.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: decoy on March 03, 2022, 02:37:48 PM
If your main interest is base taking with no opposition, flying off the map (for again, fear of opposition) or glitching the game by doing nothing but dropping field supplies so it is impossible to capture. May we perhaps offer you to play offline?
I need for you to explain to me how dropping field supplies is 'glitching the game.' In your explanation, please be sure to cover the fact that supplies have to be dropped from unarmed transports which do not have the ability to outrun any a/c in the inventory, expect the Storch.
Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: whiteman on March 03, 2022, 02:43:38 PM
I need for you to explain to me how dropping field supplies is 'glitching the game.' In your explanation, please be sure to cover the fact that supplies have to be dropped from unarmed transports which do not have the ability to outrun any a/c in the inventory, expect the Storch.
Thank you in advance.
There are a few places on maps where LVTs spawning from the CV actually spawn feet dry, and in some instances right outside town.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: nopoop on March 03, 2022, 03:00:26 PM
Pfactor you are my kind of player. It's all about the fight
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: Arlo on March 03, 2022, 03:03:01 PM
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: decoy on March 03, 2022, 04:06:17 PM
There are a few places on maps where LVTs spawning from the CV actually spawn feet dry, and in some instances right outside town.
Thanks. I'm not much of a gv player. I have seen, in the radio buffer, people complain when someone moves a cv that they were using to get a feet dry spawn. Never paid it much attention.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: The Fugitive on March 03, 2022, 04:08:07 PM
I need for you to explain to me how dropping field supplies is 'glitching the game.' In your explanation, please be sure to cover the fact that supplies have to be dropped from unarmed transports which do not have the ability to outrun any a/c in the inventory, expect the Storch.
Thank you in advance.
The goon is the only undefended supply vehicle. Jeep, LVTs, and M3s all have guns and cam Maneuver OUT of the path of guns (timing is important, and when you get them to crash oh how the giggles roll out of your mouth!)
The point oTRALFZo was trying to make was many of us would rather see other players DEFEND the base instead of resupply it.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: PFactorDavid on March 03, 2022, 05:14:08 PM
Lame excuse, feet dry spawn or not. Unjustified period.
Poor sportsmanship at the very most. But I am going to be devil's advocate here and say that it is no different than abusing the feet dry spawn. I thought we got rid of it years ago, where HT had a fit it was being abused however I have seen this drama play out in all 3 countries. Easy fix is to find someone who outranks and takes over command. DONE.
Just because players choose to auto switch, they want to be a Ship Karen and revoke rights to man task groups? Now you are just being silly. Half the player roster late night is filled with auto switchers. Now they want to take that aspect of the game away from them.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: RotBaron on March 04, 2022, 04:41:22 AM
Sink the CV and defend or attack the feet dry spawn point. They’ll stop in 15 mins as the CV will be gone.
Most of the time, the players I see using Tu-2s or B-26’s on the deck have no problem getting to the boat through ack and enemy ftrs. It’s not a skill I’ve developed, but several dozen players are experts at it.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 04, 2022, 09:07:20 AM
Poor sportsmanship at the very most. But I am going to be devil's advocate here and say that it is no different than abusing the feet dry spawn. I thought we got rid of it years ago, where HT had a fit it was being abused however I have seen this drama play out in all 3 countries. Easy fix is to find someone who outranks and takes over command. DONE.
Just because players choose to auto switch, they want to be a Ship Karen and revoke rights to man task groups? Now you are just being silly. Half the player roster late night is filled with auto switchers. Now they want to take that aspect of the game away from them.
While I agree that feet dry spawns are undesirable, that is a Map makers error and should be fixable. That having been said, it still does not justify what he did. I concur with the suggestion that ALL auto switchers be restricted from CV control access, tying it into the Perk Point limitations would be a good idea.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: PFactorDavid on March 04, 2022, 12:44:36 PM
While I agree that feet dry spawns are undesirable, that is a Map makers error and should be fixable. That having been said, it still does not justify what he did. I concur with the suggestion that ALL auto switchers be restricted from CV control access, tying it into the Perk Point limitations would be a good idea.
Sure... why not... Heck, I had forgotten that you could even take control of the boats... lol
I log in to fly...
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: RotBaron on March 04, 2022, 04:59:40 PM
While I agree that feet dry spawns are undesirable, that is a Map makers error and should be fixable. That having been said, it still does not justify what he did. I concur with the suggestion that ALL auto switchers be restricted from CV control access, tying it into the Perk Point limitations would be a good idea.
NDIsles has a few of them (there’s a Knight well aware of many of them) and that map is older than dirt. I don’t remember hearing the term feet dry spawn in AH2, do I just not recall correctly or is it an AH3 issue?
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: Sho0oterMcGavin on July 17, 2022, 07:36:31 AM
<S> Tralfaz, men, osmium; Jim. Cute join date girls. I have the film of this event; my first time on auto switch(rainbow warrior). Would you believe before posting he REFUSED to review film and accept he's wrong? His story changes everytime.
I'm just now reading after using auto switch again(5 months later) and flying with the bish. Was pleasurable this time. Just one month ago osmium(OP) was shaking his palm palms around on all countries cheerleading; and I met him @ Rooks. Was nice, until he began harassing me via country and pms all while ignoring film.
They took the base I didn't jeopardize it I turned the boat after while distressing help from my pt boat(within TG). Was a time lapsed joke he totally hijacked this and disrespected yet again the squad and/or members. You also bashed my ex squad member, semp, from Pigs On the Wing. Some bishops tried supporting him. Talked and they're not so sure anymore
"Feet dry spawn" all you want; with the horde too. My tank(32 kills then LUNATIC with 50 right after wtg!!!) will be MGing supps and HEing armor pal
I heard OP wears his hat backwards(or on crooked) because of all the time he spends shooting backwards
<S> Tralfaz, men, osmium; Jim. Cute join date girls. I have the film of this event; my first time on auto switch(rainbow warrior). Would you believe before posting he REFUSED to review film and accept he's wrong? His story changes everytime.
I'm just now reading after using auto switch again(5 months later) and flying with the bish. Was pleasurable this time. Just one month ago osmium(OP) was shaking his palm palms around on all countries cheerleading; and I met him @ Rooks. Was nice, until he began harassing me via country and pms all while ignoring film.
They took the base I didn't jeopardize it I turned the boat after while distressing help from my pt boat(within TG). Was a time lapsed joke he totally hijacked this and disrespected yet again the squad and/or members. You also bashed my ex squad member, semp, from Pigs On the Wing. Some bishops tried supporting him. Talked and they're not so sure anymore
"Feet dry spawn" all you want; with the horde too. My tank(32 kills then LUNATIC with 50 right after wtg!!!) will be MGing supps and HEing armor pal
I heard OP wears his hat backwards(or on crooked) because of all the time he spends shooting backwards
Easy cowgirl, this ain't no ho down quit dancing in dirt and kickin up dust You got a MA name pal?
Osm'o - I challenge you to a ar234 1v1 now
What the heck are you talking about????
Are you still drunk from last night????
Film?????
oh and btw, "JimmyD3" is "Kenai77" in game.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: lunaticfringe on July 19, 2022, 05:58:25 PM
a squad in which another member was caught shading red-handed recently)
This is funny
There is a whole bunch of people with two and three accounts who use said accounts to gain the upper hand in scenarios and in the main arena. it's the norm now.
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: oTRALFZo on March 11, 2024, 01:32:40 PM
I can already tell by the quality of this whine that MCGavin moved the CV from the feet dry spawn which in my mind is a very lame glitch to the game used both in offense and defense.
If your main interest is base taking with no opposition, flying off the map (for again, fear of opposition) or glitching the game by doing nothing but dropping field supplies so it is impossible to capture. May we perhaps offer you to play offline?
rehashing this due to a misunderstanding with McGavin that was brought up a couple days back.
This was brought up right after a map that bish had a CV just parked offshore and resupped it everytime it was attacked making it void of capture. I remember Gavin being in mercinary mode took over CV rendering the feet dry spawn no more. My comment was not towards Mcgavin moving the CV but just the glitch in the game that gives the spawn feet dry. Yes all countries do it. I dont like it. Especially when a country keeps it there and any attacks just get thwarted by one guy dropping feild sups. McGavin..you are a "bro:" I would never trash talk you like that :)
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: waystin2 on March 14, 2024, 05:38:23 PM
Another dumpster fire :aok
Title: Re: The only problem with the 3x perk point autoswitch thing (but it's a big one) is
Post by: Zacherof on March 18, 2024, 10:34:27 PM
That unscrupulous players will sabotage the team they are currently on in favor for the team they are usually on. I'd heard rumors of this before but actually saw it happen today. What happened was....
A bishop crew had managed to white-flag and deack a knight town from a CV. One of the aforementioned autoswitch players (SMcGavin, coincidentally(?) a member of the Elite, a squad in which another member was caught shading red-handed recently) saw what had happened and commanded the boat away from its take position. Eventually a bishop was found who outranked him and took the boat back, and the knight base was indeed taken.
SMcGavin thereupon commanded another CV away from its position defending a port, and the CV had to be taken over by another player who ranked him.
Really. Have people, and has the game, come to this?
Solution! Deny the autoswitch people the right to take command of CVs. Is this a doable thing? If they're really only after perk points they shouldn't care. And the game wouldn't be tarnished by the likes of SMcGavin when he no longer has that ability.
Firstly you should prolly fact check before making post public….
Seeing how Mcgavin isn’t a member of elite and hasn’t been for over 6-8 months or are wanting to hate on elite for having side switching members too cuz there’s a solid 3. Also these seems like another I wanna control how other players play the game post woe is me or some pick an excuse comment.
Or are you mad someone took your boat like some players get. :furious :furious
Why not just get over yourself and find a way to have fun other than spewing a look at me post