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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: -aper- on August 17, 2004, 10:59:20 PM
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This is the idea how to balance the planeset and the countries and make customers happy.
There are several problems in MA now
1) The early war planes do not see a lot of action.
2) The country numbers are often kinda unbalanced.
3) Customers complain they are not allowed to fly
their favourite planes for the favourite countries.
To solve these problems and make customers happy HTC may like to consider the implementation of the different subscription plans for AHII:
The cheap plans should include only early war planesets and the subscribers will be assigned to the weakest country each time they log into the MA. Such plans should be very useful to persons who play AH occasionally or just who are not very interested in strategic things and squads but prefer to find the quick dogfight and have fun.
The expensive plans from the other hand should include the complete planeset and the abilities for subscribers to choose the favourite country and plane without restrictions. These plans should be ideal for dedicated players who prefer to fly for the particular country in the particular plane.
The subscription plans, prices and plansets are the matter of further discussion.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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that is a good idea, but the fact is you pay to access the arena's.
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Ah BSkull17, someone who realizes you dont pay to fly any plane you want.
You pay for arena access.
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wow....pay as you go. Neat Idea, you could even set it up so you got cash instead of perks...make the guys flying the top 10 pay between 10 cents and 25 cents per plane per sortie...you shoot em down you get credit for 1/2 the "buy in". It would allow those on a budget to fly for free (if they are any good) while allowing those who want fly the very best...I LIKE IT:D :rofl :aok
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yes humble, just like real life - the rich will get richer. The poor will burn in their hurri I.
Bozon
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How about $100 for the premiem plan?
HiTech
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Does blue text come with that?;) :)
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HiTech, I purchased a 1/5th of Cragganmore's. Now I realize what I have been missing all of this time.
Karaya
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Originally posted by hitech
How about $100 for the premiem plan?
HiTech
Only if you build Do-335 :)
Seriously speaking
I would better suggest $20-25 per month for premium plan
$15 per month for people who quite satisfied with current system
$5-10 per month for people who agree to fly only early war planes and participate in country-balancing system
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I'll take the bait and respond.
There is always the element of pitting your skills against another human. That is why I like to fly on-line and not off-line against AI.
In pitting yourself against the other guy there is always the element of fairness. Fairness does of course not count in a real war, but AH is not a real war.
Buying/selling better planes for money (not earned perks) is not really any different than hacking.
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yes and no AK...hacking is a manipulation of data as well as performance. "Better plane" is a relative term. almost all of the planes in the MA are pretty good. Recognizing the fact that a "double positive" plane will have a tremendous advantage I'd still say pilot is 80% of the equation.
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
Buying/selling better planes for money (not earned perks) is not really any different than hacking.
Why?
Is it wrong to sell better car for better money or better features for better money?
You can not create the balanced gameplay without implementing some kinds of restrictions. (RPS, perk points, plane restrictions on country balance, time delay, etc) And the problem is that some people for sure will like it but some will don't.
For example would you like to be auto-assigned to the outnumbered country each time you enter the MA? Guess you would not especially if you play in squad planning missions etc.
But for some people it doesn't matter and they will be pretty much happy to participate into auto-balancing system especially if they get a small reward for this.
So the new system will bring the opportunity for each customer to choose the most appropriate plan for himself. That's the most flexible and fair way to keep things balanced.
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Originally posted by hitech
How about $100 for the premiem plan?
HiTech
This is really funny. Couple days ago I asked HTC how much I have to pay for my P51D.
Now I have answer. Only $100!? Where have you been? We would make a deal!
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mabey we just need to get rid of one country or hey how about add two more?
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This has my vote as dumbest thread. I see you are adapting to capitalism well however.
:lol
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Originally posted by MaddogWx
I see you are adapting to capitalism well however.
Unfortunately we are not.
Otherwise I wouldn't pay more than others. But I have always payed and ready to pay now any price for my principals. Looks like this is the main difference between you and me.
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
mabey we just need to get rid of one country or hey how about add two more?
4-counrtry.
We saw it in WB. I'm not sure it will help to solve the current problem.
2-country setup quckly brings the situation when one country outnumbers the other substantially. It becomes boring very soon.
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Originally posted by -aper-
4-counrtry.
We saw it in WB. I'm not sure it will help to solve the current problem.
2-country setup quckly brings the situation when one country outnumbers the other substantially. It becomes boring very soon.
yeah i wasnt too sure about the two country thing, but;) 5 sounds tempting.
think of it, sure one, or two country's might get pummbled, but hey some people like being always out numbered.
for others there could be multiple squad unions that like, and fly with eachother on a regularly basis.
knights, bish, rook, wow not much more choices if its got to be chess?
pawns, kings, and for some the queens:lol
but relitively speakeing. countries would be smaller i think. and hords might not be so common:)
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Originally posted by humble
yes and no AK...hacking is a manipulation of data as well as performance. "Better plane" is a relative term. almost all of the planes in the MA are pretty good. Recognizing the fact that a "double positive" plane will have a tremendous advantage I'd still say pilot is 80% of the equation.
I's have to dissgree. the player's computer setup and connection count well over 50% of success and equation
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Originally posted by hitech
How about $100 for the premiem plan?
HiTech
You really do want my wife to kill me don't you?
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keep it as is, we've not given it long enough yet to see if its working...i think it is
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Originally posted by hitech
How about $100 for the premiem plan?
HiTech
It wasn't all that long ago when $100/mo would have been an immense bargain either.
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You can kid yourself all you want about the $15 being for arena access. The fact is every single one of us are paying to PLAY the game. The majority of our money is going towards the upkeep of the game, not the upkeep of a server/arena. Access to the arena is a byproduct of paying to play the game, not the other way around. I know HTC disagrees with this, but their definition is more of semantics and legality than logic.
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Originally posted by Goobman
You can kid yourself all you want about the $15 being for arena access. The fact is every single one of us are paying to PLAY the game. The majority of our money is going towards the upkeep of the game, not the upkeep of a server/arena. Access to the arena is a byproduct of paying to play the game, not the other way around. I know HTC disagrees with this, but their definition is more of semantics and legality than logic.
err without the server/arena there will be no GAME at all
im guessing our $15/£10 goes towards bandwidth costs.........
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You pay $15/mo to play the game ... not necessarily play it the way you want it to be.
There's been a lot of very productive discussion this last week, and you're all seeing positive changes as a result. A series of host fixes last night, for instance.
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Originally posted by Overlag
err without the server/arena there will be no GAME at all
im guessing our $15/£10 goes towards bandwidth costs.........
Hmmm, I would guess that the majority of our fee is applied towards the salaries of the people that keep the game flying (no pun intended :) )
Maybe less than 20% for bandwidth costs
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
You pay $15/mo to play the game ... not necessarily play it the way you want it to be.
There's been a lot of very productive discussion this last week, and you're all seeing positive changes as a result. A series of host fixes last night, for instance.
When I signed up to play the game for $14.95 / mo. The rules of the game were that I had full choice of any plane I wanted to fly and for which country I wanted to fly for in that plane. HTC has now changed that rule since my agreement to terms. I'm not saying that HTC doesnt have the right to do whatever the heck they want to do, because its their game they can. However, dont pretend my consternation over this whole ordeal is simply because its "how I want it to be" , as if I never had the choice before on planes/countries. When I agreed to pay for access/play game, It was never even hinted that one day in the future those choices would be denied to me. If it had been, I would have hesitated on signing up in the first place. Since the change (and to this minute) I am still debating on continuing with this game.
Other minor changes in the game (such as hardness, fuel porkability etc.) still left me with the option of my basic choice of plane type/ country. Leveling the balance could have be done with more thought and planning and still left that basic choice intact. I know this as fact since I have seen numerous posts with better ideas than this one. I dont like hordes, but this solution absolutely stinks. It wasnt my decision so alas all I can do is voice my opinion and then lump it or leave it :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Goobman
When I signed up to play the game for $14.95 / mo. The rules of the game were that I had full choice of any plane I wanted to fly and for which country I wanted to fly for in that plane. ...
I could come up with half a dozen counter-examples here ... implementation of a Rolling Plane Set being an easy one. Because it would rob you of the ability to fly "what you want, when you want". In other words, the "Terms of Service" just isn't a valid argument, even though it feels like it should be.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think this was the best way to solve "The Problem." At least not in its current form. And half the reason I got involved at all in the discussion was I didn't appreciate the way the folks who had rationally expressed objections were being treated by the BBS (i.e. "fly another plane, princess.")
HT has a lot of ideas to sort through from this week. And has already implemented a couple. So give it a little time.