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Title: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 05, 2012, 02:37:37 PM
Is there a spokesman here for the Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai?

Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: PFactorDave on May 05, 2012, 02:46:42 PM
Is there a spokesman here for the Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai?



Did their squad leader get caught up in some bizarre sex scandel or something?   :uhoh
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Canspec on May 05, 2012, 03:03:52 PM
Did they steal Zacks pies from his plane... :huh
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Ruah on May 05, 2012, 03:06:56 PM
oh this is gonna be good. . . personally I have some serious issues with the way they play the game, but there is nothing stopping them.  I can say they are not earning a lot of 'respect points' even if they are doing well as far as generating 'squad points'.

Nrshida, whats up?

I personally see Ahiru (duck) as the defacto 'leader' but it could be any of the others.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Butcher on May 05, 2012, 03:09:15 PM
Isn't this the Japanese squad who do not read english and only Japanese who figured out how to play the game etc?

Much respect for them, even if they believe in score more then personal fun.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 05, 2012, 03:33:01 PM
Isn't this the Japanese squad who do not read english and only Japanese who figured out how to play the game etc?

Much respect for them, even if they believe in score more then personal fun.


Yep, that's them.  Don't see any real reason to bash them either, it's not like they are the only squadron that places score/rank above all else.  If that's the way they have fun in this game, all the power to them.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: PFactorDave on May 05, 2012, 03:33:39 PM

Much respect for them, even if they believe in score more then personal fun.


I dare say, it probably isn't your place to determine how they have fun.

I'm still hoping that it's some sleazy sex scandal that might bring down a government somewhere.   :D
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Noir on May 05, 2012, 03:37:19 PM
I enjoy fighting them, they just don't quit :aok
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: 4Prop on May 05, 2012, 03:45:02 PM
oh this is gonna be good. . . personally I have some serious issues with the way they play the game, but there is nothing stopping them.  I can say they are not earning a lot of 'respect points' even if they are doing well as far as generating 'squad points'.

Nrshida, whats up?

I personally see Ahiru (duck) as the defacto 'leader' but it could be any of the others.

LOL WTF? duck? lol what a plane name.

the issues they have is they play like the whale killing fishing company witch they represent. they take 4 guys to 1 enemy, much like they kill helpless whales in RL. when its a 1v1 they wont fight, they will just drag you through ack or run to a fellow whale killer (wingman). much like they do when people try to stop  them fishing, they just run.

I dare say, it probably isn't your place to determine how they have fun.

I'm still hoping that it's some sleazy sex scandal that might bring down a government somewhere.   :D

LOL
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Debrody on May 05, 2012, 04:17:38 PM
If i would explain my opinion about them here, i would get banned for life.
Some disgusting playing style for sure.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Melvin on May 05, 2012, 04:20:32 PM
A series of whines has been recorded.


Or shall we say a "group" of whines...


Or, how about a "pod" of whines...


 :aok
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: coombz on May 05, 2012, 04:21:57 PM
I like easy kills
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Ruah on May 05, 2012, 04:52:02 PM
If i would explain my opinion about them here, i would get banned for life.
Some disgusting playing style for sure.

yah~ you tend to cut right to the point a little too harshly sometimes. . . good thing you have exhibited good self control here now.

still waiting on what Nrshida is gonna say though since i do respect him.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on May 05, 2012, 05:04:54 PM
I like easy kills
  :aok
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: waystin2 on May 05, 2012, 05:39:54 PM
Who? :headscratch:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Vudu15 on May 05, 2012, 07:33:29 PM
Bunch of crybabies in here sometimes over a game.....WTF!? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Raphael on May 05, 2012, 09:29:09 PM
woah! if it doesn't take 30 squaddies to make everybody whine then they are doing it right!  :D
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: RedBull1 on May 05, 2012, 11:26:43 PM
I haz tater tots.......  :noid
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Tupac on May 05, 2012, 11:29:49 PM
I saw those guys on whale wars I think.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: dirtdart on May 05, 2012, 11:35:28 PM
Shida and I were discussing them today, because we were trying to communicate with them.  English is not on their radar and japanese is not on ours.  They do quite well and have great team work. 
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Brooke on May 06, 2012, 12:19:19 AM
I'm really happy to see a squad of Japanese folks playing AH.

I wish we could entice them to play in scenarios!
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Rolex on May 06, 2012, 12:52:19 AM
Going to be hard, Brooke. Scenarios are usually run about 4 AM Japan time, plus the communication barrier. While many folks can read English reasonable well, but slowly, voice and last minute changes, plans, slang etc. are just too hard to do in real time.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: wil3ur on May 06, 2012, 01:02:13 AM
(http://brainsyndicate.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/20091101220358south_parks_enola_gay.jpg?w=640&h=360)
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Hopper on May 06, 2012, 01:22:29 AM
(http://brainsyndicate.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/20091101220358south_parks_enola_gay.jpg?w=640&h=360)

 :D
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: 4Prop on May 06, 2012, 01:54:01 AM
(http://brainsyndicate.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/20091101220358south_parks_enola_gay.jpg?w=640&h=360)

LOL   :banana:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: ROC on May 06, 2012, 02:01:03 AM
Quote
While many folks can read English reasonable well, but slowly, voice and last minute changes, plans, slang etc. are just too hard to do in real time.

I don't know Rolex, Guppy seems to keep up reasonably well.. :bolt:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 06, 2012, 06:45:52 AM
Wow quite some response to a fairly innocuous question.

I find myself increasingly compelled to fight them when I encounter them, since we have a dialectic concept of air combat and yet sometimes fly the same aircraft. We were studying their tactics yesterday and they clearly value cooperation and teamwork above an individual's performance. This cultural and ethical difference makes for an interesting and usually hard fight which goes to and fro.

When I fought Ahiru alone I found his ACM to be poor which surprised me. Then it occurred to me that they might in fact be the most isolated squadron in Aces High and wondered if it would be possible to establish a dialog.

I was also slightly curious in all honesty as to what their opinion was of someone like me. I thought that might be edifying.




P.S. Congratulations on your Coprographia wil3ur, you show great potential. Perhaps you can even achieve PNG status if you apply yourself...   (http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8443/crazy6.gif)
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Melvin on May 06, 2012, 06:48:14 AM
wondered if it would be possible to establish a dialog.


Dialog is the key.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Shifty on May 06, 2012, 06:55:32 AM
If i would explain my opinion about them here, i would get banned for life.

Then by all means proceed with your opinion.  :aok
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: icepac on May 06, 2012, 06:58:16 AM
I heard they want the Ki44 and J2m......and they want them now.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: danny76 on May 06, 2012, 06:58:36 AM
(http://brainsyndicate.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/20091101220358south_parks_enola_gay.jpg?w=640&h=360)


As I pointed out to a couple of guys the other day, this kind of thing is way out of order, start spouting about Nazi's and quite rightly you get jumped on from a great height. Do the same in regards to the Japanese and that's Kosher???  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: danny76 on May 06, 2012, 07:00:22 AM



P.S. Congratulations on your Coprographia wil3ur, you show great potential. Perhaps you can even achieve PNG status if you apply yourself...   (http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8443/crazy6.gif)

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :salute
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Plawranc on May 06, 2012, 07:04:41 AM
I will be plain here.

Despite most of the racial "distaste" which I will subject myself to here.

I personally, of all groups of people on this earth, have the highest respect for the Japanese. This new squad, flys the aircraft their nation proudly fought in, and fights to succeed.

^ The Japanese, are polite, courteous, honorable and efficient. And should be welcomed.

Ironic as it is talking about a WW2 game, but the war was over 70 years ago.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Debrody on May 06, 2012, 07:43:03 AM
Im anything but not polite.
What is honorable? Do i have the right to judge?
Is it you or me being blind?
Bootlicker or decadent rebel? Your choice.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Karnak on May 06, 2012, 08:16:32 AM
wil3ur,

That was rather uncalled for.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Threeup on May 06, 2012, 08:25:46 AM
It's their $15.

However I have been told that if you pm and utilise words like "Baka" they get angry enough to leave the pack and then you can pick them off one by one.

Some dweeb that only flies Spixteens told me that. DeBrody - excellent judge of character by the way.

It's a given this thread will be locked.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Rolex on May 06, 2012, 08:30:05 AM
I listen and converse on the Japanese vox channel(s) sometimes and the content is like this:

1. They don't insult or talk badly about other players.
2. They enjoy the camaraderie of others on the channel.
3. They don't discuss politics, religion or engage in racial or ethnic bashing or taunting.
4. They treat AH for what it is - a game. They aren't still fighting the war like some others are.
5. Japanese culture is predominately a non-confrontational culture. People talk without arguing.

They understand some of the racial/ethnic taunting and mocking done by some in the arenas, but they ignore it. They understand that stupid people aren't smart enough to comprehend how stupid they are. No one ever wins an argument with a stupid person.

It's not like an idiot is going to suddenly say, "Gee, I never knew that. I've changed my mind." Only smart people have the capacity to change their minds.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: ozrocker on May 06, 2012, 08:40:10 AM
Bunch of crybabies in here sometimes over a game.....WTF!? :rolleyes:
QFT!
So, you got ganged :ahand You allowed yourself to be placed in the situation :aok
Get dragged to ack? Once again, same.
So, in essence you are mad because a squad is doing what they are supposed to.
Providing wingmen, supporting to kill enemy. Sounds like they should be commended to me.
I am glad and thankful that there are a variety of Cultures. Much we can all learn.
I spent 6 years in Germany, had opportunity to see and appreciate the diversity.
To the Japanese Squads, or any other for that matter  :salute and please ignore the ignorance by a few.
                                                                                                                                                         :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Ruah on May 06, 2012, 08:45:52 AM
I have talked with them a bit in game, namely with Nekonabe (cat stew) who spoke on behalf of Ahiru (duck) in chat before using romanized japanese - but it is hard to really get a sense of emotion that way.  Mitsu is Japanese and is semi-active on the boards here (but not a member of the fishing coop) so he may be a good person to ask. . .

with regards to the 'crying' - realize that when the fishing coop is active is early day in europe and the server has 80 ~ 100 people online.  During these 'low population' hours when the Americans (who make up a large portion of the game) fights are usually very small scale an there is a stronger sense of respecting 1v1s.  Sure during 300 or 400 population hours you expect a degree of ganging and many pilots (rightfully) fly more conservatively (in 51s/D9s an so on) and many people just accept that.  but in the 'off hours', their style of play is more picking/score whoring/lame and takes away from the overall experience which can be very good.  This is why debrody or myself (and others who fly that tz) are quick to voice our opinions regarding this - namely because we actually fight them while the rest of you sleep.  In a server with 300 people in it, who cares, you just move on to another fight, but when there are 20 people to a side the dynamic is quite different.

So more then crying, its a sense of disappointment.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: dirtdart on May 06, 2012, 09:08:50 AM
Yeah it is a shame some wankpiss guys dragged their prejudices in here.  They fly clever and we were tying to open a line of dialogue with them.... 
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Reaper90 on May 06, 2012, 09:17:59 AM
their style of play is more picking/score whoring/lame and takes away from the overall experience which can be very good. 

My experience with the fish heads as well.

But it is their $15, and their right to do whatever they want, however they want to do it.

I found a while back it is better to not care, nothing will come of angst on my part.

Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: matt on May 06, 2012, 09:36:47 AM
A series of whines has been recorded.


Or shall we say a "group" of whines...


Or, how about a "pod" of whines...


 :aok
:rofl
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: matt on May 06, 2012, 09:44:33 AM
I listen and converse on the Japanese vox channel(s) sometimes and the content is like this:

1. They don't insult or talk badly about other players.
2. They enjoy the camaraderie of others on the channel.
3. They don't discuss politics, religion or engage in racial or ethnic bashing or taunting.
4. They treat AH for what it is - a game. They aren't still fighting the war like some others are.
5. Japanese culture is predominately a non-confrontational culture. People talk without arguing.

They understand some of the racial/ethnic taunting and mocking done by some in the arenas, but they ignore it. They understand that stupid people aren't smart enough to comprehend how stupid they are. No one ever wins an argument with a stupid person.

It's not like an idiot is going to suddenly say, "Gee, I never knew that. I've changed my mind." Only smart people have the capacity to change their minds.
how can you say things that make sence like that how dare you.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: PFactorDave on May 06, 2012, 09:55:18 AM


P.S. Congratulations on your Coprographia wil3ur,

You know...  I'm somewhat educated and pretty well read...  I'm not ashamed to say that I had to look coprographia up...   :rofl  I was surprised by the definition...  Yuck!

Also, I've had quite a bit of contact with Japanese folks over the years.  Rolex's description of their VoX pretty much mirrors my experiences.  The culture fascinates me, to be honest.  There is much that we could benefit from here in the West. 
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Zoney on May 06, 2012, 10:58:24 AM
Some of you boys should be ashamed.

Others are to stupid to feel shame.

 :salute To our Japanese brothers, I apologize for the insults and derision thrown your way.  Please, we are not all like that.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: wil3ur on May 06, 2012, 11:07:33 AM
...you people need to get out more.  I'm so tired of people getting bent out of shape and offended for other people, especially when they have very little idea what's going on to begin with.

This thread quickly deteriorated from a discussion of the squad into a diatribe on Whale Wars and how they're ganging people like poor defenseless whales.  If you look at the picture I posted, it was from a South Park Episode in which we are told WHY the Japanese hate Whales so much (Notice the Commedy Central Logo).  We find out that in 1945 the US Government supplied the Japanese with intelligence showing that Whales, not the US, dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEUcQtPwZ0U

The picture was posted as both comic relief, as well as being a pictorial commentary on what this thread was really all about:  A Misunderstanding of Cultures and trying to place Western Values and beliefs upon a different culture.  So think what you want, but my posts are anything but rubbing crap on a wall.    :rolleyes:

 :salute
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 06, 2012, 11:51:43 AM
wil3ur, you posted a picture of the Enola Gay (without explanation) in a thread discussing a Japanese squadron and YOU think WE should get out more?



:salute To our Japanese brothers, I apologize for the insults and derision thrown your way.  Please, we are not all like that.

This was not the intention of this thread. I am sorry I even started it.





Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: wil3ur on May 06, 2012, 11:56:31 AM

wil3ur, you posted a picture of the Enola Gay (without explanation) in a thread discussing a Japanese squadron and YOU think WE should get out more?



Yes
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2012, 12:07:50 PM
wil3ur, you posted a picture of the Enola Gay (without explanation) in a thread discussing a Japanese squadron and YOU think WE should get out more?



This was not the intention of this thread. I am sorry I even started it.







Shida, the picture he posted was from a TV show called South Park. In the episode they explain why the japanese hunt Dolphins and Whales - Because the Enola Gay was actually crewed by dolphins and whales. If you look in the cockpit of the picture he posted you will see, in fact, a dolphin and whale.

I don't think he posted it with any nefarious undertones.

Here's a link to the episode

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s13e11-whale-potatos
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 06, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
Because the Enola Gay was actually crewed by dolphins and whales.

Yes you are right, it's completely obvious now that you mention it, crewed by Dolphins and Whales you say? I don't know how I missed that one.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2012, 12:13:26 PM
Yes you are right, it's completely obvious now that you mention it, crewed by Dolphins and Whales you say? I don't know how I missed that one.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but Wil3ur was attempting to make humor, not make a cheap shot at a very unfortunate time in history for the japanese people.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Karnak on May 06, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
I will admit that I did not closely examine the picture beyond seeing it was an artwork portrayal of the Enola Gay.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: zack1234 on May 06, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
Pies are important as well :old:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2012, 12:18:04 PM
Pies are important as well :old:

Pies are the most important  :old:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: wil3ur on May 06, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
Tupac, thanks...  but some people will never get it.

South Park has already done a wonderful job in pointing out that American arrogance and ignorance in thinking our culture or way is more correct or moral than someone else's.  This entire thread was a perfect mirror of that episode, right down to the point of people saying they're acting like a bunch of fishermen going out and slaughtering poor defenseless whales.

The picture, from the episode, is completely in accordance with the thread... and was in actuality my way of saying you guys are morons for getting on their case about how they fly.  If they want to maintain discipline and order in their flights and tactics, who are you to say they're not playing the game correctly?

So you're getting bent out of shape about me 'making fun' of Japanese, when I was taking the exact opposite stance.  Yes, I didn't explain it, but my American Arrogance and Ignorance made me think that everyone would automatically have noticed the Dolphin and Whale on the plane and thought, "Oh that South Park Episode where they pointed out what hypocrites we are!".

I'm guilty of the same idiocy that I'm accusing you of as well...  so for that I apologize.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Debrody on May 06, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
What if we (you) finish it right here and now?
Haters gonna hate, dont need to fuel us. While their flying style is exactly what disgusts me...  not really "samurai" mentality... all i can do is avoid them. As far as possible.
.ignore tards   .salute goodfites
And life is beautiful again.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: 1pLUs44 on May 06, 2012, 12:38:23 PM
Isn't this the Japanese squad who do not read english and only Japanese who figured out how to play the game etc?

Much respect for them, even if they believe in score more then personal fun.


Maybe thats how they like to have their own personal fun. My .02

 :salute
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: ROC on May 06, 2012, 01:16:08 PM
Can you imagine the soldiers back in WW2 arguing on a forum about how each other was fighting?   :rofl

Don't like they way a group flies?  Form another group and go hunt them down.  Not going to solve a single thing getting blisters on your fingers typing in here.

Then again, it is historically much easier to complain about something than actually do something about it.  I don't spend enough time in the MAs due to the scenario efforts, but quite frankly, all this thread did was tell me there is a worthy group I need to go hunt, who know how to fight back.  Sounds like fun, can't wait to run into them.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: guncrasher on May 06, 2012, 01:17:37 PM
they do fly pretty good, but they ho a lot.  actually that is their primary merge. a ho shot.


semp
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 06, 2012, 01:22:37 PM
He's right, there is a Whale and a Dolphin in the picture. I didn't look farther than comprehending it was the Enola Gay and made assumptions. I am not that familiar with South Park. I apologise for saying you had Coprographia  :salute


Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but Wil3ur was attempting to make humor, not make a cheap shot at a very unfortunate time in history for the japanese people.

A very unfortunate time in human history. Indeed.


Well, although not the intention, the Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai's style is clearly provocative. Perhaps it's for the best that they don't have a representative here.










Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Raphael on May 06, 2012, 01:34:31 PM
back to the topic!
good teamwork is good! there is a DA for 1v1's!
I mean, how many of them are there in total? is it even a horde?
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Lusche on May 06, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
I mean, how many of them are there in total? is it even a horde?

10 Members, but only 6-7 are really active.  :old:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Debrody on May 06, 2012, 01:52:50 PM
back to the topic!
good teamwork is good! there is a DA for 1v1's!
I mean, how many of them are there in total? is it even a horde?
Til a level, for sure. But sometimes its disgusting to be ball-less in an extreme level.
Cuz 3 sticks teamworking and pwning 4-5-6-10 is awesome. But 4-5 running in a ki84 from a 109 all the way til they get more friends is not for my taste. Especially when then comes the 5v1 pass-run-reverse fest.
Yea im just an explotted rebel...
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: coombz on May 06, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
nice post wil3ur

and nice passive aggressive whine thread shida, as ever you continue to be a master of obsfucation  :angel:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 06, 2012, 04:47:03 PM
nice post wil3ur

and nice passive aggressive whine thread shida, as ever you continue to be a master of obsfucation  :angel:


It just appears that way because you aren't very good at thinking outside of your tiny box.

Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: coombz on May 06, 2012, 05:14:28 PM
Wow quite some response to a fairly innocuous question.

heh heh

'butter wouldn't melt'

you might as well have just put 'Discuss' in the OP like Debrody  :aok
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: LCADolby on May 06, 2012, 05:16:53 PM
When I battle them, I can only think of this screenshot i have in Shogun 2

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576699711722912531/99EE924CA239238900A9D0F8E31A17422DCFBE87/)

They don't practise bushido  :old:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Ruah on May 06, 2012, 05:30:11 PM
Sorry shida for unintentionally hijacking your thread. . .

my point still stands as an opinion - I don't expect others to agree.

Still no word from the fishing coop, so I expect you will probably not hear from them here. 
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: bustr on May 06, 2012, 05:31:35 PM
1.) Who thinks Hitech reading this is going to tell the fishing coop squad they are bad MA citizens and play the way the OP wants them to?

2.) Who thinks since this posting validates that the fishing coop's method of play is working for them that they are going to respond other than with a middel finger to the OP and his witnesses to their perfidy?

3.) Who here, who has been in this game as long or longer than me ever saw anyone or group agree to change how they play the game because someone starts a post about their bad MA citizenship? More often Hitech locks these posts eventualy for personal attacks. Kitty lickin hairballs anyone?

The MA is a caged wrestling match with no rules other than the two primary Hitech enforces.

1.) No Bad Language.
2.) No programatical finessing of the game code.

The fishing coop guys seem to be doing fine based on what they define as success in the game. Especially since this post now exists focused on them. Not quite that high moment in your AH career of being accused of cheating becasue you pulled some fancy moves. Maybe they get a shiny metal vTard award for you to masticate over as Bender was known to say.

So which of the two afor mentioned rules are they breaking so you can report them to Hitech Creations via phone or e-mail per proper reporting channels?
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: ink on May 06, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
man the way some of you are talking...I wanna go out and find these guys and fight them :rofl

Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Changeup on May 06, 2012, 05:59:42 PM
1.) Who thinks Hitech reading this is going to tell the fishing coop squad they are bad MA citizens and play the way the OP wants them to?

2.) Who thinks since this posting validates that the fishing coop's method of play is working for them that they are going to respond other than with a middel finger to the OP and his witnesses to their perfidy?

3.) Who here, who has been in this game as long or longer than me ever saw anyone or group agree to change how they play the game because someone starts a post about their bad MA citizenship? More often Hitech locks these posts eventualy for personal attacks. Kitty lickin hairballs anyone?

The MA is a caged wrestling match with no rules other than the two primary Hitech enforces.

1.) No Bad Language.
2.) No programatical finessing of the game code.

The fishing coop guys seem to be doing fine based on what they define as success in the game. Especially since this post now exists focused on them. Not quite that high moment in your AH career of being accused of cheating becasue you pulled some fancy moves. Maybe they get a shiny metal vTard award for you to masticate over as Bender was known to say.

So which of the two afor mentioned rules are they breaking so you can report them to Hitech Creations via phone or e-mail per proper reporting channels?

Dear Bustr:

It is ok to make posts without using HiTech's name or business model.  You do not have to hump that hard...that is all.

Changeup
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Mitsu. on May 06, 2012, 07:02:38 PM
lol
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Butcher on May 06, 2012, 07:16:37 PM
Dear Bustr:

It is ok to make posts without using HiTech's name or business model.  You do not have to hump that hard...that is all.

Changeup

 :lol
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Plawranc on May 06, 2012, 07:22:36 PM
If they use teamwork, use your brain.

They fly Japanese aircraft with Japanese tactics, out climb them, out run them, and pick them off.

Or do what I do... Grab a Spit and show them that us Colonials can turn as well  :devil
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: pervert on May 06, 2012, 07:25:04 PM
Game should have Japanese language supported for them.  :old:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: bustr on May 06, 2012, 08:58:21 PM
Dear Bustr:

It is ok to make posts without using HiTech's name or business model.  You do not have to hump that hard...that is all.

Changeup

It's OK changeup, imagery is everthing when using the written word. It obviously works on you. Kitty Lickin Hairballs and masticating shiny metal awards. As far as the fishing coop goes. They must be doing something right to get a Whine post in this forum. In their case they probably would tell the OP to "bite my boat's shiny metal stern" in japanese.

Good loardy a mini late night hoard of fishy death.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on May 06, 2012, 09:06:10 PM
I saw those guys on whale wars I think.
LOL!!! were they wearing KI84 Shirts?  :rofl
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: LCADolby on May 06, 2012, 09:09:14 PM
As far as the fishing coop goes. They must be doing something right to get a Whine post in this forum. In their case they probably would tell the OP to "bite my boat's shiny metal stern" in japanese.


I think you have misinterpreted the OP and inserted what your eyes wanted to see. :old:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: RedBull1 on May 06, 2012, 09:23:05 PM
 :banana:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 07, 2012, 01:52:45 AM
There is an awful lot of jumping to conclusions going on here.

Despite the accusations, it was not my intention to engineer a Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai-bashing thread. I posted this immediately after logging from the MA where DirtDart and I spent at least an our hunting them down to fight them. Was a really epic and fun fight.

I don't see the obfuscation, I did state that I felt compelled to fight them and that my motivation was that we have a dialectic approach to the gameplay.

I really did want to hear their opinion of us & our approach and perhaps discuss the Ki-84 and ACM. Nothing further. If you look for intrigue and evil machinations everywhere I'm sure you will find it.


If the Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai are listening, perhaps it is for the best that they do stay away from the forums   (http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8443/crazy6.gif)

Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Ruah on May 07, 2012, 02:29:43 AM
yah~ sorry
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 07, 2012, 02:49:59 AM
yah~ sorry

No need! I think their style clearly provokes opinion.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Changeup on May 07, 2012, 08:55:35 AM
It's OK changeup, imagery is everthing when using the written word. It obviously works on you. Kitty Lickin Hairballs and masticating shiny metal awards. As far as the fishing coop goes. They must be doing something right to get a Whine post in this forum. In their case they probably would tell the OP to "bite my boat's shiny metal stern" in japanese.

Good loardy a mini late night hoard of fishy death.

Naaa, I was bored and tired of watching HiTech walk with a metaphorical limp.  These guys fly like the Loose Deuce only the LD have skills 1 V 1.  Nothing wrong with team work and there isnt one person in here that hasn't run to help at one time or another. 
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Debrody on May 07, 2012, 10:40:22 AM
Loose Deuce has a couple good sticks who are brave. Tallboy, Strat, Save etc.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Ruah on May 07, 2012, 10:45:13 AM
Shida,

I had a good chat with Ahiru today and asked him if they had a spokesperson or someone who they would look to as a leader.  He said they had no formal organization.  I mentioned that you had expressed a desire to have a chat with him and if any of them had read this post.  He replied that they don't read the BBS and do not have 200 on (I told them they should to practice their English).  He mentioned that they are all friends and play together to have fun, I told him it would be nice to get him more involved in the community as a whole.

Long story short, he wanted me to convey a <S> to you and promised me he would keep an eye out for you in the future.

And yah, writing in romanized japanese is annoying as hell.

Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 07, 2012, 12:17:14 PM
 :banana: Hurrah!

Many thanks for your efforts Ruah, that must have taken a lot of energy. If you still have any left please return my regards to Ahiru San and the Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai and explain that our different ideologies make for interesting fights, and that my opinion is that the part can often be greater than the sum.

Tell Ahiru San he is lead turning too early in the merge!

 :banana: :salute


Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Shuffler on May 07, 2012, 12:56:58 PM
I don't think I've ever seen one.... does someone have a pic??   :rofl
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Zoney on May 07, 2012, 01:51:06 PM
Well, I see I have new friends to meet.  <S> "NG"

Gunna find em and fight em or wing with em, it's all good.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: guncrasher on May 07, 2012, 01:53:36 PM
they are very good pilots, actually some are great pilots, but they're hoing at the first merge is dumb.  and you can pm all you want as it wont make a difference.  other than that they are fun to fight against and they will keep upping no matter how many times they get killed.  i'ts as if you had a bunch of mute midways except in japanese planes.


semp
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Debrody on May 07, 2012, 02:04:06 PM
they are very good pilots, actually some are great pilots...
ehm... very good in straight flying skills. You are seriously blind, Semp...  or just holy low on skills. Actually their ACM is disappointingly weak.
 :bhead

other than that they are fun to fight against and they will keep upping no matter how many times they get killed.  i'ts as if you had a bunch of mute midways except in japanese planes.
uhm, no. Actually Midway stays and fights. I hated Midway for many reasons, but NEVER seen him running. In the other hand, i have never seen a NG dude fighting (turning) not even when they had 5 to 1 advantage.
Only BnZ, or ackrun stirring the stick when they lose the alt advantage, then reverse when they get buddies.
No offense here, but its the sad truth.

"I can shout...  noones listening."
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: RedBull1 on May 07, 2012, 02:15:00 PM
I've been picked by ahiru once I think... but if theyre a few japanese friends just having FUN in a GAME, that isnt even in their language that says something compared to a LOT of us. All the power to you Nippon gyo....rest of it!  :rock  :cheers:

 :salute
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Vinkman on May 08, 2012, 01:25:46 PM
I will be plain here.

Despite most of the racial "distaste" which I will subject myself to here.

I personally, of all groups of people on this earth, have the highest respect for the Japanese. This new squad, flys the aircraft their nation proudly fought in, and fights to succeed.

^ The Japanese, are polite, courteous, honorable and efficient. And should be welcomed.

Ironic as it is talking about a WW2 game, but the war was over 70 years ago.

The potential that they can't read this BBS or channel 200, or understand Range Channel is probably the reason they enjoy the game so much.  :lol :aok
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Vinkman on May 08, 2012, 01:35:49 PM
I don't think I've ever seen one.... does someone have a pic??   :rofl


...gotta love Shufler popping on page 6 with a pun intended as a reply to post #1.

ok Shuffler...turning back the clock and pretending I didn't read this whole thread already....

 :rofl
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Lusche on May 08, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
The potential that they can't read this BBS or channel 200, or understand Range Channel is probably the reason they enjoy the game so much.  :lol :aok

I would like to argue that... but I can't  :uhoh  :D
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Vinkman on May 09, 2012, 08:49:48 AM
I would like to argue that... but I can't  :uhoh  :D

excluding you of course Lusche. You are an asset to the game experience.  :salute  ;)
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Lusche on May 09, 2012, 08:57:57 AM
I have to admit that I don't only have ch200 detuned, but find myself doing the same for country channel more frequently  :bolt:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Shuffler on May 10, 2012, 02:11:34 PM

...gotta love Shufler popping on page 6 with a pun intended as a reply to post #1.

ok Shuffler...turning back the clock and pretending I didn't read this whole thread already....

 :rofl

There is a thread??? Will it become a string in the future? Once there is enough string will we all Knit? What about Bish and Rooks? Will they be assimilated?
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: HL117 on May 12, 2012, 07:39:53 PM

  Japanese squad flying Japanese planes WTF Go!   :aok

So they pick and run,......... who cares.........figure a way to counter and have fun doing it.


HL

Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Daddkev on May 12, 2012, 08:15:53 PM
 :aok :huh :aok :huh :aok :huh :aok :huh
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Melvin on May 12, 2012, 09:55:01 PM
Whang Chung - Nrshida
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Changeup on May 15, 2012, 08:42:04 PM
Wang Chung!!  Nicely done!
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 16, 2012, 12:11:59 AM
Cobblers!  :old:
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: tunnelrat on May 16, 2012, 10:28:51 AM
Eego dekimasu ka?

Sumimasen.  Nihongo chotto wakarimasu.

Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: LCADolby on May 16, 2012, 10:59:57 AM
Eego dekimasu ka?

Sumimasen.  Nihongo chotto wakarimasu.



3rd door on the left.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Hajo on May 16, 2012, 12:49:07 PM
I've enjoyed greatly flying with Mitsu, GTR, and many other of my friends who live in Japan.
We've been doing so since AH began.

Mitsu and GTR communicate very well.  I applaud them for learning.
Any of us try to learn Japanese to communicate with them?
I don't think so

They are outstanding members of the AH community, never cause any trouble and are adult enough
and wise enough to ignore insults that may come their way. They recognize the lack of intelligence behind them.

The idiots in Aces High have made themselves known by some of the posts in this thread.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Debrody on May 16, 2012, 01:05:50 PM
<----   Officinal idiot.

anyway, if you consider the "never ever fight just run to friends" behaviour respectable, honorable, even clap your hands how awesome and mature it is, well what can i say...  have fun without me.
You can be happy now. Cheers.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 16, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
<----   Officinal idiot.

anyway, if you consider the "never ever fight just run to friends" behaviour respectable, honorable, even clap your hands how awesome and mature it is, well what can i say...  have fun without me.
You can be happy now. Cheers.

I've never had fights like that against Mitsu or GTR.  My fights with either of them have always been good and Mitsu has really learned the Ki-84 since he's been back.  Glad he switched to the Frank, he was a terror in the FW190D-9 many years ago, before you were around.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Ruah on May 16, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
Mitsu is still a terror, and deadly fun to fly against in his KI84 - but - he is not in the Coop.
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Mitsu on May 17, 2012, 11:36:46 PM
I love you guys which are dogfighting with my KI. :)

I've been away from Aces High and all internet games since 2004.
After I came back to AH 1 year ago, I was glad to see old good guys who are still flying over it.

And I'm surprised and excited because there are many dangerous players that I didn't know. This game is still hot.

Sometimes some players send me whining PMs but I always ignore it.
Be a man.

P.S.
Skuzzy, thanks again for getting back my old BB name.  :salute
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: nrshida on May 18, 2012, 12:34:16 AM
Mitsu San! Always a splendid fight. I am yet to fight you Hayate versus Hayate but look forward to it one day  :banana:

 :salute
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Shuffler on May 18, 2012, 10:11:14 AM
Leave the 38s alone.... we are just taking pictures......  really we are.....    ;)
Title: Re: Nippon Gyogyoukyoudoukumiai
Post by: Zoney on May 18, 2012, 11:06:23 AM
<S> Mitsu <S> The terror of the skies.