Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Nefarious on October 07, 2017, 08:27:51 PM
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Seems like the P-47D-11 is really susceptible to 1 ping pilot wound damage. The 412th had 5 or 6 it seemed like last Friday night in FSO.
Other aircraft seem to have damage quirks like radiators and gun damage, does the D-11 have a PW problem? Seems like the aircraft that had a reputation for being tough and able to take massive damage and keep flying sure has a problem with easy pilot wounds in AH.
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The Dora is a flying radiator and will leak coolant if you sneeze at it.
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Try the mosquito and then tell me what you think about PW rates...
It is possible that the Jug durability is the cause of preceived high rate of PW. Another plane may have disintegrated under you, while the jug hold together for you to suffer the PW. The way that the use of helmets increase the rate of reported head injuries.
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Been flying a lot of the P-47 d11 lately. I have not noticed above average pilot wounds.
:salute
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Fly a p38 the pilot is 4 ft larger than the cockpit.
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P-47's were built big to accommodate the growing amerikan backside (notice Yaks have toight cockpits for those fit, lean russian pilots)... big pilot = big target hence more pilot wounds in jugs
:bolt:
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The problem with Jugs was corrected long ago. They suffered main fuel tank leaks if a bullet came within 3 feet of the airframe. Hit on the elevator- fuel leak. Hit on the aileron- fuel leak. Shoot enemy aircraft- fuel leak. Look at enemy ack from 15k- fuel leak. Note enemy CV location 2 sectors away- fuel leak. Sneeze- fuel leak. It was so bad that you loaded up with fuel and drained the main tank first because you'd still have the aux tank when the main went dry in case an enemy pilot farted and blew a hole in the main tank.
I haven't noted any problem with PWs in the D-11. Though I've wondered how most PWs come from direct six shots where the armor should be stronger.
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typical Jug pilot...
(https://web.stanford.edu/group/ccr/ccrblog/jek-porkins-20071001033021125.jpg)
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So Mak... you are saying that when I farted during FSO I shot myself down? and it had nothing to do with the 5 190's and 109 on my 6 at 28k?
ok..... I feel better knowing that. thanks for the clairification. :bolt:
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The Dora is a flying radiator and will leak coolant if you sneeze at it.
But if someone ups within the same sector as your 190F, you get a PW. :noid
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Been flying the La-5FN lately -- lots of pilot wounds.
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Every once in a while, pilot wounds suddenly seem to be more common. They aren't, really. It's just some variation of Murphy's law rearing it's ugly head again.
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Every once in a while, pilot wounds suddenly seem to be more common. They aren't, really. It's just some variation of Murphy's law rearing it's ugly head again.
+1 Mongoose.
I find that turning my cockpit I notice this mostly in early war fighters where it's a whole lotta 'spray-n-pray' vs cannon's from LW birds. That (a late-war hit) usually results me reappearing back in the tower. :D
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I seem to catch a ton of pilot wounds and guns, but my theory is a lot of people aim for the topline of the airframe. I lose a lot of pilots, I lose a lot of Vstabs.
Wiley.
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The only thing that confounds me is how I seem to lose tail pieces in head to head collisions.
That plane just flew through 7 tons of figher and 2800 and somehow I lost my elevators/rudder but nothing else. :headscratch:
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What confuses the heck out of me is hitting him with a wing and only the aileron falls off. Did you lose just your rudder, or rudder and vstab? If you were pulling or pushing, I could imagine a scenario where just your tail would clip the guy but if it's just the control surface, sounds similar to what I was talking about.
Wiley.
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No vertical or horizontal stabilizer. Just the control surfaces.
Pretty sure it's a lag/FE thing. But still... :headscratch:
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P-47D11 is the best plane in the game!
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False. P39d!
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Yes I am late as usual. In game, the 47s take nowhere near the damage they reportedly took in WW2. Getting PW'd in one does seem to be quite a bit higher in all models of it, than others like say the 190, or even the 109 and A6M
Just my observation
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Only the later 109 and 190s have increased armour. in the 109g2 I get PW easy, the G6 not.
The same experience apply to the 190a5 - easier pw, whereas the 190a8/F8/D9 are much better protected.
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Yes I am late as usual. In game, the 47s take nowhere near the damage they reportedly took in WW2. Getting PW'd in one does seem to be quite a bit higher in all models of it, than others like say the 190, or even the 109 and A6M
Just my observation
Yeah, I've read a lot of stories about pilots tucking under canopy while a enemy fighter slugged hundreds of rounds into the aircraft and simply return to their airfield unscathed but the plane looking like it was used for target practice.
It has 3/8" armor (both forward and aft ends of the cockpit) AND armor plating over vital area and a low cockpit design (not much of the pilot was exposed). Crappy for taxing around, but excellent for pilot protection while flying. These seven ton flying bricks were big - which meant the pilots had a lot of metal protection around them
Our P-47's in-game must of been hacked without Dale or Doug knowing about it. :noid
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MY WAG is they use one pilot wound model for all planes including the storch.
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Fly a p38 the pilot is 4 ft larger than the cockpit.
Truth!!
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The problem with Jugs was corrected long ago. They suffered main fuel tank leaks if a bullet came within 3 feet of the airframe. Hit on the elevator- fuel leak. Hit on the aileron- fuel leak. Shoot enemy aircraft- fuel leak. Look at enemy ack from 15k- fuel leak. Note enemy CV location 2 sectors away- fuel leak. Sneeze- fuel leak. It was so bad that you loaded up with fuel and drained the main tank first because you'd still have the aux tank when the main went dry in case an enemy pilot farted and blew a hole in the main tank.
I haven't noted any problem with PWs in the D-11. Though I've wondered how most PWs come from direct six shots where the armor should be stronger.
While we're on the subject of crappy aircraft, I think the Me-262 needs a buff. It would be much better balanced if it had a GAU-8 30mm in the nose and could vert like an F-14.
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when i looked into the P-38's 8ft wide pilot i had a squaddie in the practice arena shoot it with a jeep and an SDK (for the 7.7mm) on the ground.
If you think you have a problem do that and make videos (thats what i did)
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a 0.50 cal round vs and aluminum and cloth plane who knew
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MY WAG is they use one pilot wound model for all planes including the storch.
If you have played the game and different aircraft anytime at all, you will find out pretty quick that this is not correct at all!
TC
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P-38 gets really easy PW's too.
My first forum two cents...yay
(My first forum post, cherry gone LOL)
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P-38 gets really easy PW's too.
My first forum two cents...yay
(My first forum post, cherry gone LOL)
You did pay your entry fee. PM me for details. :devil
LOL welcome to the boards.