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Title: Stuka
Post by: AKKillz on January 17, 2005, 04:49:09 PM

Idea for future plane armament. 37mm pods for stuka. Thoughts?

Title: Stuka
Post by: oboe on January 17, 2005, 05:57:07 PM

:aok :aok :aok

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 17, 2005, 06:07:30 PM

(http://hsfeatures.com/features04/images/ju87g2bg_001.jpg)
Junkers Ju 87G-2 Stuka
Major Hans-Ulrich Rudel, Kommodore SG2, Russia, Summer 1944

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 17, 2005, 06:15:14 PM

(http://users.belgacom.net/airimg1/avion1/17791.jpe)

(http://users.belgacom.net/airimg1/avion1/17773.jpe)
Aircraft   : Junkers Ju 87G-2
Year      : 1942
Engine      : 1 x Jumo 211J , 1410 hrs.pwr.
Wingspan   : 14.98 m
Length      : 11.50 m
Weight      : 6800 kg
Max. speed   : 355 km/h
Ceiling      : 5800 m
Range      : 1400 km
Crew      : 2
Armament   : 2x37mm + 2x20mm + 2x7.9mm guns

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 17, 2005, 06:40:36 PM

Why not the JU88p.
(http://www.luft46.com/mess/ju88p.jpg)
A BK 7.5 75mm PaK 40 cannon mounted in a Junkers Ju 88P-1. Since the huge gun affected flight characteristics, an explosive device was fitted so the pilot could jettison the gun and mounting.(http://www.luftwaffe39-45.historia.nom.br/aero/ju88_11.jpg)
Country of Origin : Germany
Role : Tactical Bomber
In-Service Date : February 1943
Manufacturer : Junkers Flugzeug- und Motorenwerke A.G.
Number Produced : 100+
Crew : 4
Length : 14.36m
Height : 4.85m
Empty Weight : 9860kg
Operational Weight : 11080kg
Wing Span : 20.08m
Wing Aspect Ratio : 7.34
Wing Area : 54.5m2
Engine : 2x Jumo 211 J (1350 hp)
Max Speed : 393kph @ 6000m
Cruising Speed : 310kph @ 4500m
Climb : 353m per minute
Service Ceiling : 8200m
Range : 2100km
Fuel Capacity : 2900 Liters
Machinegun Armament : 2x 7.92mm MG81z (Tailgun - 750 rounds)
Cannon Armament : 2x 37mm FlaK18 (18 APHV rounds each)
Payload : None
Gunsight : Revi
Avionics : FuG 10P HF Radio
FuG 16ZY VHF Radio
FuG 25 IFF
Pilot Armor : Yes
Self-Sealing Fuel Tanks : Yes
Armored Windscreen : Yes

Title: Stuka
Post by: hawker238 on January 17, 2005, 08:16:27 PM

Gear's right, that thing could haul bellybutton faster and could probably take more damage, along with some token protection.

Title: Stuka
Post by: Rasker on January 17, 2005, 09:01:32 PM

I want that Ju288 with the 14" battleship gun, for one-way use against carriers :)

Title: Stuka
Post by: MiloMorai on January 17, 2005, 09:54:53 PM

Gear

your photos show a G-1. The G-2 did not have any wing guns (nor the G-1(MG17)), the fairing being removed at the factory.

Panzerjagdkommando Weiss was formed in Feb 1943, so your spec saying 1942 has to be questioned (typo?). The first units to use the G-1 was during Zitadelle in July 1943 with Pz.J.sta./StG 1 and Pz.J.sta./StG 2.

The range number listed is for econo cruise, normal range being ~800-850km.

Each Flak 18 was 600lb with only 12 rounds/cannon.

Title: Stuka
Post by: Jester on January 17, 2005, 11:24:57 PM

If you also will check out the insignia shield below the cockpit on Gear's bottom picture I think you will find the version pictured is a NIGHTFIGHTER version of the JU 88.

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 18, 2005, 02:55:08 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Jester
 NIGHTFIGHTER version of the JU 88.

This one is a Ju88R-1 night fighter
(http://website.lineone.net/~roling46/Axis/P47-3a.JPG)

(http://pages.intnet.mu/warbirds/Ju88a.jpg)

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 18, 2005, 02:59:12 PM

(http://www.geocities.com/h_zoeller/ju88_a5.jpg)

Junkers Ju88-G2
with Lichtenstein Radar

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 18, 2005, 03:00:11 PM

(http://www.geocities.com/h_zoeller/ju88_a6.jpg)

Junkers Ju88-P3
with BK 3,7 canons below fuselage

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 18, 2005, 03:02:11 PM

(http://www.geocities.com/h_zoeller/ju88_a4.jpg)

Junkers Ju88-C6
with FuG 202/217
The C-series, also known as the Z-series was the destroyer and night fighter version of the Ju88 since 1938. This series was developed from the Ju88-V7 and was principly based on the A-series. Instead of the glased nose section of the A-series, the C-series got a metal nose section and a remote machine gun at the rear tail unit. The C2/C3 were used as "Jabos" and got bomb mountings plus machine guns in the nose section. The C6 was used as a day and night fighter version and was equipped with radar systems, as well as with additional remote machine guns at the rear of the cockpit cabin.

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 18, 2005, 03:04:14 PM

(http://www.geocities.com/h_zoeller/ju88_a7.jpg)

Junkers Ju88-S1

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 18, 2005, 03:17:58 PM

(http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/bww2/do200-i.jpg)

Do.200

Title: Stuka
Post by: Joker312 on January 23, 2005, 06:59:06 PM

Gear, that is a captured B17, not a DO200.

Title: Stuka
Post by: HoHun on January 23, 2005, 07:16:15 PM

Hi Joker,

>Gear, that is a captured B17, not a DO200.

Do 200 actually was a camouflage designation for captured B-17s :-)

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Title: Stuka
Post by: gear on January 23, 2005, 08:15:31 PM

(http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/2833/luftwaffe/transport/do200/do200n1.jpg)

Take a close look above if you have not already done so. Notice anything strange or familiar? Does the Dornier Do 200 look like a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress? If you think so, you are right. The Dornier Do 200 was a B-17 Flying Fortress. The story of the strange conversion of American bombers to German secret transports is told below.
          Beginning from 1943 the daylight bombing of Germany was gradually increasing in both number of bombers and frequency. Inevitably some of the Fortresses were shot down by interceptors or by anti-aircraft guns. But the B-17's were so sturdy that the crews sometimes were able to crash-land without doing much damage to the bombers. Eventually the Luftwaffe captured enough of these American bombers that they formed a special unit, the I/KG200, which flew captured Fortresses in German markings to drop secret agents by parachute and keep them supplied while they performed tasks like the construction of a chain of clandestine airstrips and fuel dumps in the Western Desert. As part of the cloak and dagger act, these aircraft were known as Dornier Do 200.http://www.fscwv.edu/users/rheffner/b17/b1722.shtml (http://www.fscwv.edu/users/rheffner/b17/b1722.shtml)