General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JimmyD3 on October 23, 2022, 04:49:52 PM
Title: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 23, 2022, 04:49:52 PM
This game glitch has got to be fixed, otherwise it will kill the game. On 1 certain terrain tile, the 3 story building in the villages can be entered with a gv. While it is not something you can just drive into, it can still be accessed relatively easily. While the individual is in the building, they can see out and shoot with out being seen. If you happen to be looking and see the muzzle flash, you know they are there, however the only way to kill them is to bomb the building. We have a few of the best gv'ers in the game utilizing this glitch, when confronted they argue its part of the game, any one can use it. Like it or not, agree or not, its wrong and it is gaming the game.
As a map maker it is easy to avoid the problem, I just do not use that tile near any base as I create a new map. Unfortunately we have fjordma, bowlma, craterma, & etoma that have this tile in use.
There let the Flames begin.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: captain1ma on October 23, 2022, 09:09:50 PM
in aces high 2 that was considered a tactic and we used it all the time. i can still remember shooting down planes with a tank, that couldnt see me in a building. it was great fun. in thursday night tank fights i blow up the city and guys get into the destroyed buildings and shot out of them. also a tactic. they die quickly, but its part of the fun!
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: mERv on October 23, 2022, 09:19:13 PM
Post screenshots so we as a community know how to find them now. Nothing is going to get fixed so rather expose the glitch and it will be easy Pickens :salute
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 23, 2022, 10:20:50 PM
in aces high 2 that was considered a tactic and we used it all the time. i can still remember shooting down planes with a tank, that couldnt see me in a building. it was great fun. in thursday night tank fights i blow up the city and guys get into the destroyed buildings and shot out of them. also a tactic. they die quickly, but its part of the fun!
I'm not talking about getting into destroyed buildings, I'm talking about working your way into an existing fully upright building in the remote villages. AH2 is a different story all together, we could hide in the Indestructible, and inside destroyed buildings. Also don't forget the barns.
In AH3 building interiors are only accessible when destroyed, or at least until this glitch was discovered. I believe it has something to do with the routine that gets gv's unstuck from trees.
Merv, there is no way to find them unless you see the muzzle flash of the gun(s).
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: mERv on October 23, 2022, 10:26:04 PM
I'm not talking about getting into destroyed buildings, I'm talking about working your way into an existing fully upright building in the remote villages. AH2 is a different story all together, we could hide in the Indestructible, and inside destroyed buildings. Also don't forget the barns.
In AH3 building interiors are only accessible when destroyed, or at least until this glitch was discovered. I believe it has something to do with the routine that gets gv's unstuck from trees.
Merv, there is no way to find them unless you see the muzzle flash of the gun(s).
yes but an overhead view screenshot with town nearby in view would help to find it along with a screenshot of the building itself.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: 100Coogn on October 23, 2022, 10:35:16 PM
This game glitch has got to be fixed, otherwise it will kill the game. On 1 certain terrain tile, the 3 story building in the villages can be entered with a gv. While it is not something you can just drive into, it can still be accessed relatively easily. While the individual is in the building, they can see out and shoot with out being seen. If you happen to be looking and see the muzzle flash, you know they are there, however the only way to kill them is to bomb the building. We have a few of the best gv'ers in the game utilizing this glitch, when confronted they argue its part of the game, any one can use it. Like it or not, agree or not, its wrong and it is gaming the game.
As a map maker it is easy to avoid the problem, I just do not use that tile near any base as I create a new map. Unfortunately we have fjordma, bowlma, craterma, & etoma that have this tile in use.
There let the Flames begin.
A wine has been noted. :rofl 'play the game my way'
Coogan
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Vulcan on October 23, 2022, 11:28:31 PM
This game glitch has got to be fixed, otherwise it will kill the game. On 1 certain terrain tile, the 3 story building in the villages can be entered with a gv. While it is not something you can just drive into, it can still be accessed relatively easily. While the individual is in the building, they can see out and shoot with out being seen. If you happen to be looking and see the muzzle flash, you know they are there, however the only way to kill them is to bomb the building. We have a few of the best gv'ers in the game utilizing this glitch, when confronted they argue its part of the game, any one can use it. Like it or not, agree or not, its wrong and it is gaming the game.
As a map maker it is easy to avoid the problem, I just do not use that tile near any base as I create a new map. Unfortunately we have fjordma, bowlma, craterma, & etoma that have this tile in use.
There let the Flames begin.
You would have hated the old TT. Good times back then
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 24, 2022, 04:36:38 PM
You would have hated the old TT. Good times back then
I played in AH2, this is NOTHING like AH2. In AH2 your were allowed to access destroyed buildings, the Barnes all over the terrain, and the Indestructibles at the vbases.
These are buildings that are not supposed to accessed, but due to an error in the Tile graphics, or some other unplanned consequence, individuals can enter the building. Its not all buildings, just the 3 story buildings in the villages. Even then you can't just drive in, you have to approach the end of the building at an angle the try to force your way in, just like you do when trying to get unstuck from a tree.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Mano on October 25, 2022, 08:32:39 PM
If you ignore the guy in the building and he has no customers, he gets bored and goes somewhere else. My buddy Hogey would never hide in a building. :D
:salute
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: BiPoLaR on October 26, 2022, 03:32:57 AM
I played in AH2, this is NOTHING like AH2. In AH2 your were allowed to access destroyed buildings, the Barnes all over the terrain, and the Indestructibles at the vbases.
These are buildings that are not supposed to accessed, but due to an error in the Tile graphics, or some other unplanned consequence, individuals can enter the building. Its not all buildings, just the 3 story buildings in the villages. Even then you can't just drive in, you have to approach the end of the building at an angle the try to force your way in, just like you do when trying to get unstuck from a tree.
That one building in TT wasnt destroyed lol. We would go in there with jeeps and everything.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: CAV on October 26, 2022, 06:35:30 PM
What want to know is ... what action Hitech is taking to fix it, if any? This has been known about for some time now. All he needs to do is pop in and say "yes I'm working or no I'm not, but keep paying so I can stay in retirement.
CAV
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Devil 505 on October 26, 2022, 06:44:35 PM
If someone in one of these buildings is forcing someone else to fly a plane to deal with them, then it's a net gain.
:airplane:
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: atlau on October 26, 2022, 06:51:47 PM
What do these buildings look like so I can egg them?
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: nopoop on October 26, 2022, 08:29:58 PM
They are square and stick up out of the ground.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: RotBaron on October 26, 2022, 10:45:05 PM
If someone in one of these buildings is forcing someone else to fly a plane to deal with them, then it's a net gain.
:airplane:
YES SIR! NAILED IT! "Get in a Tank, you p%^^$!" Uh, this is an Air Combat Game????? "Not FAIR"! Uh, YEAH...that pretty much defines War Winners? God/HT gave us Bombs and Bomb Targets...so...? "Get thee behind me, Devil"...FRICK!!! Devil505...BE GONE with thee, I gave you your due dang it :rofl "You fly a Noob Plane, SpitXVI should be perked, CASTRATI....yadda yadda... I am LOW and Slow...still, what .....11 to 1 K/D? GV's are just Fodder to me! The "Snickers" for when I am hungry. :devil
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Mano on October 27, 2022, 06:42:38 PM
I have heard sometimes said buildings are inspected and smoked from Storches, then bombed, but I have no direct knowledge of that, so you can pretty much ignore my post.
:rofl
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Vulcan on October 27, 2022, 10:25:51 PM
YES SIR! NAILED IT! "Get in a Tank, you p%^^$!" Uh, this is an Air Combat Game????? "Not FAIR"! Uh, YEAH...that pretty much defines War Winners? God/HT gave us Bombs and Bomb Targets...so...? "Get thee behind me, Devil"...FRICK!!! Devil505...BE GONE with thee, I gave you your due dang it :rofl "You fly a Noob Plane, SpitXVI should be perked, CASTRATI....yadda yadda... I am LOW and Slow...still, what .....11 to 1 K/D? GV's are just Fodder to me! The "Snickers" for when I am hungry. :devil
Post screenshots so we as a community know how to find them now. Nothing is going to get fixed so rather expose the glitch and it will be easy Pickens :salute
I'm also interested in seeing a screen shot showing this building type from the air, and its location in the village.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: popeye on October 28, 2022, 09:14:40 AM
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: oboe on October 28, 2022, 10:42:25 AM
Thank you Popeye.
And are those buildings are destroyable with bombs and rockets? In other words, after being hit will they be rubble with broken walls, etc? Or do they not show damage?
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: AlbertSk on October 28, 2022, 01:33:46 PM
Non-destroyable. Impenetrable with guns, only a bomb drop will kill occupant. Once inside the walls aren't rendered so you can see out unobstructed but are invisible to opponent.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Eagler on October 28, 2022, 02:39:13 PM
Non-destroyable. Impenetrable with guns, only a bomb drop will kill occupant. Once inside the walls aren't rendered so you can see out unobstructed but are invisible to opponent.
Sounds like a feature not a defect :)
Eagler
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Mano on October 30, 2022, 09:27:04 PM
Does not matter to me. You can avoid the building. Word gets out pretty quick
When someone says a tank is climbing the canyon wall it is fun shooting them down before they get up there. :banana:
Also there is a bridge missing that crosses the river. I do not remember which field it is. We usually grab LVT’s to bring in the troops.
Some maps have challenges. Part of the game. Really not a big deal.
There used to be a shore battery that tanks could get into. I do not know if it is still there.
I can drive my M-8 inside enemy tanks, then run when their turret is facing the wrong way. German tanks have really slow turning turrets. 😂.
If you kill the spawn hangar at a v base with 4 hangars, you can camp the hangar from the back to allow troops to get into the map room. I have seen a lot of gv’ers get mad about that. They know they lose the base.
Some air fields have the map room close to the runway. Gv’s and bailed pilots can hide inside the map room.
Panzer H’s, Panzer F’s, Hetzers, Jagpanthers, and Panthers often become prey of the M-8. I often get called a cheater. I did not cheat. I figured out a technique to disable them from behind. Aside from the hetzers, the German tanks have slow turrets. If they are not paying attention I get behind them and pop their turret. Once the turret is disabled I can take my time. Two shots to the engine from behind and the Jagpanther is mine L O L. I killed one recently. I do not think the driver was paying attention. He called me a cheater. I put four rounds into the Jagpanther in total for the kill.
Some maps have some really large bushes. You can fit a M-8 inside the bush. You can kill storches :with the píntle gun if you shoot the pilot or maingun them if they come in really low. Many come in really low.
If an ammo bunker is burning you can park a M-8 on top. Lots of big boy tanks drive right by and never notice. I do not know of a way to kill the tiger 2 with a m-8. If anyone knows please explain.
The game may have some bugs to some folks, but to me they are features we can have fun with.
:salute
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Mano on October 30, 2022, 09:31:15 PM
Btw
There is a gv’er, I will not say his name, but he always, I mean always drives with his turret facing the rear.
:headscratch:
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Vulcan on October 30, 2022, 10:35:37 PM
I can drive my M-8 inside enemy tanks, then run when their turret is facing the wrong way. German tanks have really slow turning turrets. 😂.
Driving jeeps inside enemy tank campers, then firing at their camper mates so their buddies killshoot themselves is the most fun EVER.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: icepac on October 31, 2022, 09:21:26 AM
This has been possible for at least a decade and I enjoy the challenge of owning people who abuse it beyond exploring. When I find a glitch that can be gamed, I like using it until I can get good film and send it to hitech. Then I go back to the arena and ruffle feathers a little. When they scream "cheater" I tell them "film already sent in" and they often enjoy exploring it with me.
I do reserve the right to use it for the day it was discovered but stop the next day though I did use the a6m3 high altitude speed bug for 5 day.
What about the m16s getting into the tower?
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Vulcan on October 31, 2022, 05:40:35 PM
1ump was convinced is was in a 3 storey building the other day. I was over a km away watching and laughing my arse of as he snuck around the village hosing every bush and building ... slowly losing his mind before I put him out of his misery.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: oboe on October 31, 2022, 06:30:49 PM
1ump was convinced is was in a 3 storey building the other day. I was over a km away watching and laughing my arse of as he snuck around the village hosing every bush and building ... slowly losing his mind before I put him out of his misery.
LOL Vulcan, you're evil.
I still can't figure out how to get in to them. Every 3-story building I see now, I head straight for and try to drive inside, but my vehicle always stops when it hits the wall of the building...
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Mano on November 01, 2022, 07:54:47 PM
Way to go Vulcan.
:cheers:
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: oboe on November 01, 2022, 08:32:18 PM
Btw Oddball hides his Sherman in a building in this action-packed clip from "Kelly's Heroes":
:bolt:
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: RotBaron on November 01, 2022, 10:00:52 PM
Couldn’t it just be coded that if your tank is inside a building you can’t shoot?
I don’t mean hangars and such, but inside a building that IRL you wouldn’t be able to see or shoot out of.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Vulcan on November 01, 2022, 10:16:11 PM
:rofl You know me, Sir! I almost hate it...when you are GREEN...and I say "Missed Him". DFCrash...You... and some others..."Par! You NEVER miss ME? TF?!!!" :rofl I love you guys, more than My vocabulary has words, proper sentence structure...:rock Gal Dern Yak-9s...lol "Ran INTO" each other 2-3 times this Tour? :uhoh Literally? :bolt: Love Ya, Brother! :kiss:
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: scott66 on November 04, 2022, 02:23:41 PM
:rofl You know me, Sir! I almost hate it...when you are GREEN...and I say "Missed Him". DFCrash...You... and some others..."Par! You NEVER miss ME? TF?!!!" :rofl I love you guys, more than My vocabulary has words, proper sentence structure...:rock Gal Dern Yak-9s...lol "Ran INTO" each other 2-3 times this Tour? :uhoh Literally? :bolt: Love Ya, Brother! :kiss:
hey! Don't you miss me?!!! :salute :ahand
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Mano on November 04, 2022, 06:21:48 PM
Tyfoo and Moth sabotaged your brewster :banana:
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: scott66 on November 04, 2022, 11:22:34 PM
YA DAMN SKIPPY!!!! Mothman wrecked , sabotaged your Brewster? ADMONISHED!!!!!! I would never use you as bait...dont ask ULBlizz(my niece) 🤣 GD Cryptids...he is my squadie too? DANG RIGHT...Moth has been on your side, for like a year now? Brewster Holics :furious LOL I live 20 minutes from The Mothman Statue, near the 'Silver Bridge' at Point Pleasant, WV IYKYK :rofl Love you fellers! :rock
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: GasTeddy on November 07, 2022, 07:02:22 AM
I've been many times wondering those, who use questionable methods or clear cheats and even brag with it. Are they the same in real world?
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Shuffler on November 07, 2022, 04:33:12 PM
I've been many times wondering those, who use questionable methods or clear cheats and even brag with it. Are they the same in real world?
I once blew past a Ferari on the highway in my Crew Cab diesel........ ok the Ferari was broke down on the side of the road.... but I took him cleanly.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on November 07, 2022, 04:34:29 PM
I once blew past a Ferari on the highway in my Crew Cab diesel........ ok the Ferari was broke down on the side of the road.... but I took him cleanly.
:rofl :rofl
:aok
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: GasTeddy on November 08, 2022, 05:11:27 AM
I once blew past a Ferari on the highway in my Crew Cab diesel........ ok the Ferari was broke down on the side of the road.... but I took him cleanly.
My JEEP does not stop even if one E falls from its name and it becomes JEP. But Italians are sensitive, especially what coms to R:s.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 26, 2022, 09:44:15 PM
well they are back hiding in buildings again, so lame.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: mERv on December 27, 2022, 03:05:05 AM
I do love being on the opposing team and hearing the outlandish accusations
:rofl :rofl Yeah, I to love hearing asinine cheating comments, but I doubt it helps the game any. :cheers:
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Vulcan on December 27, 2022, 02:00:49 PM
People were raging about brando yesterday shooting them down with his main gun, about it only happened once in the war and how impossible the ballistics are. I tried to explain to them that in ww2 pilots didn't try and HO tanks either, or circle them 50 feet off the ground :devil
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Shuffler on December 27, 2022, 03:59:28 PM
People in game have much more training....... and do overs. You can sit and shoot to your heart's desire and never die if you miss.
I cheat death.... if you kill me, I will come back. :D
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 27, 2022, 05:44:14 PM
Brando is probably the best one in the game for main gunning planes. I'm not bad at it, but not near as good as Brando is. it's simple ballistics, much like skeet, after all a plane is a pretty big target, especially if he is coming straight at you.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Lusche on December 27, 2022, 08:05:57 PM
I have been maingunned by tanks less than a dozen times over all these years, it's a total freak accident to me - and that's with over 2300 tank kills in tank busters alone, in which I really have to get in close & personal. You really have to mess things up a lot to allow tankers to shoot you out of the sky. It's so easy to avoid looking into those fat barrels...
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Lazerr on December 27, 2022, 08:20:10 PM
I have been maingunned by tanks less than a dozen times over all these years, it's a total freak accident to me - and that's with over 2300 tank kills in tank busters alone, in which I really have to get in close & personal. You really have to mess things up a lot to allow tankers to shoot you out of the sky. It's so easy to avoid looking into those fat barrels...
Not to mention the angle of attack that is most effective to kill a tank also keeps you out of the range of the turret.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: mERv on December 27, 2022, 08:43:36 PM
I have been maingunned by tanks less than a dozen times over all these years, it's a total freak accident to me - and that's with over 2300 tank kills in tank busters alone, in which I really have to get in close & personal. You really have to mess things up a lot to allow tankers to shoot you out of the sky. It's so easy to avoid looking into those fat barrels...
Well, not so long time ago T34 shot my B24s down from 4K in few seconds. All three faster than it takes to reload the main gun of T34/85. Was not Brando.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 28, 2022, 09:54:10 AM
Well, not so long time ago T34 shot my B24s down from 4K in few seconds. All three faster than it takes to reload the main gun of T34/85. Was not Brando.
I have killed all 3 lancs with one shot before, hit the center lanc and the other 2 blew up as well. They were low and slow over a town, iirc it was JVLees or Virgle. :D
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: whiteman on December 28, 2022, 10:06:06 AM
I have killed all 3 lancs with one shot before, hit the center lanc and the other 2 blew up as well. They were low and slow over a town, iirc it was JVLees or Virgle. :D
CHEEEEEEATER!
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Shuffler on December 28, 2022, 10:08:49 AM
I have killed all 3 lancs with one shot before, hit the center lanc and the other 2 blew up as well. They were low and slow over a town, iirc it was JVLees or Virgle. :D
You killed the pilot.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on January 04, 2023, 09:55:38 AM
It is getting worse, more and more people cheating, hiding in buildings. Bad thing is the only way to kill them is bomb them, if you can locate the building.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Mano on January 04, 2023, 01:59:29 PM
You can drive in the same place they went in. Just wait for the reload before you go in. When they shoot at your buddy then go in. Everyone knows about the building.
We used to have a shore batt you could drive into and shoot out of with impunity. A fix might be expensive. Lots of maps have bugs. A week ago I got stuck on a tree that appeared to be floating. The trunk did not touch the ground. I could not get unstuck and had to tower.
BowlMa has canyon walls the tanks can climb. Tanks get up there and camp the VH. No tank could climb a wall that steep.
We all adapt to all maps.
Some of the old maps have spawns that have v spawns that make you drive for a very long time. There is frustration when you finally reach your destination and get bombed even though you took down the ammo bunkers at that base.
Some maps have a terrain with a gravel that really slows down a gv to a crawl. Most of us try to drive on green terrain to avoid that issue.
If players want to sit in those buildings bomb them or simply do not go near them.
We have a couple players that know how to shoot thru several sets of trees. Many of us have figured out how to kill them and when we do we get called a cheater. :D I have never used a third part app and have no intention of ever installing one. I simply wait at a large clearing and kill them when they cross the clearing. Not rocket science. Another way is to find a low spot in the terrain. You can often see their tracks or when they fire you see a sprite and you can fire at that. That only works if that player is behind one set of trees.CraterMA has the most trees so you hear most of the complaining on 200 when that terrain is up.
As far as hiding in buildings, I prefer to drive around in the fast M-8. Sitting all day in a building is boring. Everyone has their niche in the game.
You are a great guy Kenai77. I always enjoy tanking against you. <S>.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on January 04, 2023, 02:56:43 PM
Well said Mano, for the most part when I run into someone in a building, first I want to know who the cheater is. Second what he is in. Then I either bomb "it" or go some place else, not going to feed "it" more kills than necessary. Bad part is some of the newer tankers are starting to use it a a standard ploy. On top of all that, it is detrimental to the game.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: CAV on January 04, 2023, 05:13:17 PM
This post has been up and running from October to January still no fix... this is one of the things what is killing the player numbers in the game.
if I'm a new player, looking I put my $15 down on AcesHigh or something like WW2OL that does get content and they fix their bugs as they get pointed out.... where do I go?
CAV
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: JimmyD3 on January 04, 2023, 09:16:31 PM
This post has been up and running from October to January still no fix... this is one of the things what is killing the player numbers in the game.
if I'm a new player, looking I put my $15 down on AcesHigh or something like WW2OL that does get content and they fix their bugs as they get pointed out.... where do I go?
CAV
Cav, the fix is not going to be that easy. From what I can determine the problem is one building that is part of 2 different Terrain tiles. Fixing the buildings in the 2 tiles for future use is the first step. But to correct the existing maps would require a significant amount of rework. Perhaps Hitech can develop a routine that "kills" vehicles inside buildings, or sets up some method of using the "kill shooter" routine for anyone that fires a gun from inside a building.
I did send some film in to Hitech showing how the buildings are accessed and views of what they see from inside the building. As a Map maker I try to avoid using those 2 tile sets near any base.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: TWCAxew on January 05, 2023, 02:49:18 PM
Today there where another few examples of the hiding in buildings exploit.
Just delete the buildings all together if it is to much work..
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: 8thJinx on January 07, 2023, 08:46:23 AM
15 rounds of HE placed on the building will kill the tank inside. Not sure why, but that works.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Eagler on January 07, 2023, 09:28:04 AM
I still can't figure out how to get in to them. Every 3-story building I see now, I head straight for and try to drive inside, but my vehicle always stops when it hits the wall of the building...
Its the speed and the angle of the dangle that is key. Like going up a TT mountain side.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Softail on January 07, 2023, 06:58:44 PM
Cav, the fix is not going to be that easy. From what I can determine the problem is one building that is part of 2 different Terrain tiles. Fixing the buildings in the 2 tiles for future use is the first step. But to correct the existing maps would require a significant amount of rework. Perhaps Hitech can develop a routine that "kills" vehicles inside buildings, or sets up some method of using the "kill shooter" routine for anyone that fires a gun from inside a building.
I did send some film in to Hitech showing how the buildings are accessed and views of what they see from inside the building. As a Map maker I try to avoid using those 2 tile sets near any base.
Or just replace the building on all maps with another. Change a config file....not code. Simple.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Ruckus on January 07, 2023, 07:05:04 PM
Well said Mano, for the most part when I run into someone in a building, first I want to know who the cheater is. Second what he is in. Then I either bomb "it" or go some place else, not going to feed "it" more kills than necessary. Bad part is some of the newer tankers are starting to use it a a standard ploy. On top of all that, it is detrimental to the game.
You forgot the other option!!!!!! BW/Par, Sic Em!!!!!! :devil :rofl
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: mERv on January 10, 2023, 07:10:18 AM
If I was capable of doing something with this issue, I'd booby trap those buildings with few tons of explosives. Then AH had flying tanks. :D
Great idea :aok
*satire alert*
You know that stimulates another great idea.
If HT agreed its an exploit, he could silently recode the game so that if a player sits in this building for a certain amount of time it insta-kills them with an explosion and colored smoke. :x :banana:
Then add a hold on leaving the tower for any given amount of time. I would recommend something long enough to get the point across while not discouraging the player from continuing to play. Think of it as a spanking followed by "this hurts me more than it hurts you."
A more nefarious approach would be to insta-pop em much like friendly fire does when the player gets their first kill inside the building. Instead of it killing the opponent, the tank round would have no effect. SImilar to shooting at the target when using the dot target command. BTW is that friendly fire feature still a thing? I fly bombers so much I can't remember.
I know nothing about coding so I won't speculate on how hard it would be to pull off. Just sharing thoughts that run through my brilliantly damaged brain :salute
HQRUS
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: CAV on January 10, 2023, 12:54:28 PM
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If HT agreed its an exploit, he could silently recode the game so that if a player sits in this building for a certain amount of time it insta-kills them with an explosion and colored smoke.
Or HT can do what they would in IL-2.... in WW2OL.... in Iracing... in War Thunder.... in World of Warships.... in Elite Dangerous .... in a thousand other games.
He can FIX IT.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: icepac on January 17, 2023, 01:35:05 PM
I might come back just to BT these guys but I’m not mad about the exploit. I see some fun action. I think the stug is perfect for this hunt.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: gozulio on January 17, 2023, 03:57:28 PM
This makes me think of how Germans would hide their tanks in buildings in order to stay concealed. I doubt this is intentional due to the way it's been described here though. It should be fixed.
That being said if this happens to you literally bomb the offender into last year. Call for CAS over country coms, or ask for a strat bomber to come revoke their existence. Shell their house with HE, or end sortie and get in a plane yourself. A mosquito costs at most like 20 points, it moves fast, climbs fast, it's nigh uncatchable, and can easily carry the 4,000lb eviction notice into low orbit.
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: Vulcan on January 17, 2023, 04:03:28 PM
That assumes that the pile-its can actually bomb. I sat on Hoagi for like an hour the other night asking for bombs on me and nobody could get close.
Recipe to annoy a Hoagi: - jeeps drive into this building relatively easily (as opposed to fat girl jagpanthers... smgavin) - jeeps can track T-34s with their 50 cal - a jeep parked inside said T-34 is almost impossible to kill - leaving your engine running for extra nuisance
:devil
Title: Re: This Has to be Fixed, Hiding in Buildings.
Post by: mERv on January 17, 2023, 07:24:25 PM
That assumes that the pile-its can actually bomb. I sat on Hoagi for like an hour the other night asking for bombs on me and nobody could get close.
Recipe to annoy a Hoagi: - jeeps drive into this building relatively easily (as opposed to fat girl jagpanthers... smgavin) - jeeps can track T-34s with their 50 cal - a jeep parked inside said T-34 is almost impossible to kill - leaving your engine running for extra nuisance