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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: RATTFINK on February 19, 2008, 12:14:42 AM
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How about some opposition? I have talked w/ some Axis and it seems most of the guys from the previous AvA tour have decided to sit this one out?
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u7/rattfink31/AvAUSAvsJAP.jpg)
Check the map, yall have some catching up to do. And no hording in the wee hours.
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eh. Were on lunch break, catch us in the ETO :D .
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See...they dweebs!!
They refuse to fly anything without 20 or 30mm cannons and has the numbers 109/190/262s...
See, they know we have the upper hand in this map...
So they went running with their tails between their legs!!
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
See...they dweebs!!
They refuse to fly anything without 20 or 30mm cannons and has the numbers 109/190/262s...
See, they know we have the upper hand in this map...
So they went running with their tails between their legs!!
Some of us dont like how the settings are in the allies favor this week. If they were set to normal it would be a different story, but its not.
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Oh and what settings are different?? No pnzers?? No 109/190s??
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CV Hardness 40-45,000lbs.
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The PTO just doesn't have the draw as the ETO...
I personally can't stand the jap birds, but will be in there trying to learn how to fly those darn things.
I'll be the one on fire...or with one wing...or the one without a vertical stab.
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Originally posted by Larry
CV Hardness 40-45,000lbs.
Your CVs are just as hard, and we have no problem sinking them.
CVs were not easily sunk in the PTO. So its historically accurate....
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
Your CVs are just as hard, and we have no problem sinking them.
CVs were not easily sunk in the PTO. So its historically accurate....
We only have ONE CV, and no I bet it wasnt very hard to sink it with the allied plane set you guys have.
CVs not easily sunk wow you might wanna read up on your history. Did you ever hear of the Battle of Leyte Gulf or Midway?
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Battle of Leyte Gulf....
Number of US ships sunk
6
1 Light Aircraft Carrier
2 Escort Carriers
2 Destroyers
1 Escort Destroyer
Number of US Ships sunk from Kamikaze
5
the 6th one was sunk by a luck shot from a Japanese Dive bomber....
Moreover, while they were preparing their first strikes against Kurita's force the northernmost of the three carrier groups - Sherman's - came under heavy air attack from aircraft based on Luzon. Three separate raids, each of50-60 aircraft, were repelled - with very heavy losses - by Sherman's fighters and AA fire, but one Japanese dive-bomber got through and hit the light carrier Princeton with a bomb which started fires. Later there was a hugeexplosion in her torpedo stowage which meant that she had to be abandoned. The explosion also damaged the cruiser Birmingham, which was alongside the carrier giving assistance. Terrible casualties were inflicted aboard the cruiser.
Source: Battle of Leyte Gulf (http://www.angelfire.com/fm/odyssey/LEYTE_GULF_Summary_of_the_Battle_.htm)
Battle of Midway...
Number of US Ships sunk
1 Aircraft Carrier "USS Yorktown"
Took 2 direct bomb hits and 2 direct Torpedo hits but was still not sunk by Japanese. Followed later by 3 more torpedos by I-168.
1 Destroyer
Source:Battle of Midway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Yorktown_(CV-5))
I do know my history sir, perhaps you need to look into your history a bit more. More American ships were damaged/sunk in the PTO because of Kamakazi then of high alt/dive bombing torpedo attacks.
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Originally posted by Larry
We only have ONE CV, and no I bet it wasnt very hard to sink it with the allied plane set you guys have.
CVs not easily sunk wow you might wanna read up on your history. Did you ever hear of the Battle of Leyte Gulf or Midway?
Yeah you might have one CV but you HAD an entire island with a great many air bases. With coordination and planning, it would be very easy to sink a carrier. If the settings were turned down on CV hardness, you would have another "Operation Downfall" the single worse Scenario in AH history were 3 KI-61s could sink a carrier with 2 250kg bombs each. Our CV hardness was set at around 3000 while Hangers were at 6000. Now how does that work?? A ship is sunk easier then a Large piece of Steel?? 10 of our carriers were destroyed the first day alone. That left us with around 3 carriers for the next 3 frames, while the Japanese still had every single fighter hanger up on mainland Japan. For both sides, it was no fun at all, the Japanese didn't think it was far that we received carriers back because of the mess up on the setting, and we didn't believe it was right that the hanger settings were harder then the carriers were. Basically if the CMs didnt give us carriers back, the Scenario would have lasted only 20 min into the 2nd frame as all US carriers would have been sunk! There were some other issues that also made sinking a carrier much much easier!!
If you want CV hardness turned down, then i suggest that hanger hardness be dropped to 500lbs. Because in reality, a single 500lbs bomb could completely destroy a hanger......
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Originally posted by Larry
CV Hardness 40-45,000lbs.
Might want to check that, that seems a little too high.
If its true, then i suggest it be brought down to around 10k or so....
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That wasnt the point. You said carriers wernt easily sunk in the PTO. Read up, most carrers sunk by bombs were only hit with a few, and kamikazes were just maned bombs. Granted that most of the time ord. or fuel produced secondary explosions but 45K of ord, come on.
Did you read how big a bomb hit USS Princeton? It was a 250kg.
Beginning at 10:22, Enterprise’s aircraft attacked Kaga, while to the south, Yorktown’s aircraft attacked carrier Sôryû, with Akagi being struck by several of Enterprise's bombers four minutes later. Simultaneously, VT-3 was targeting Hiryû, although the American torpedo aircraft again scored no hits. The dive-bombers, however, had better fortune. Within six minutes, the SBD dive bombers made their attack runs and left all three of their targets heavily ablaze. Akagi was hit by just one bomb, which was sufficient; it penetrated to the upper hangar deck and exploded among the armed and fueled aircraft there. One extremely near miss also slanted in and exploded underwater, bending the flight deck upward with the resulting geyser and causing crucial rudder damage. Sôryû took three bomb hits in the hangar decks; Kaga took at least four, possibly more. All three carriers were out of action and would eventually be abandoned and scuttled
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Ive stated already the CV hardness needs to be brought down. I completely agree with you that 40-45k is ridiculous. But the Princeton was sunk because of secondary explosions because of all the fuel/ord inside her.
However in AH, we do not have those things in our carriers, so upping the CV hardness makes up for it.
But again, current hardness is far too much!!
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I logged on over the weekend for a bit but chasing ponies into the ack is no fun so I'll stay in the MA until there are german aircraft available. this set if far too unbalanced for my taste.
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Originally posted by heythere
I logged on over the weekend for a bit but chasing ponies into the ack is no fun so I'll stay in the MA until there are german aircraft available. this set if far too unbalanced for my taste.
Ain't that rich'''''''''':rofl
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We had our squad night in the AvA last night and had a blast; we took bases, we shot down the enemy and we sank a CV. Only thing we noticed different, was a lower number of Axis in the air. And that made us feel like pigs, since we had to kill any aggression and capture the base pretty much alone.
The KI-84 is a match for about anything that the allies screw up and turn in; we were fighting heavy so we could still hit our targets, and were still taking out any allied aircraft that got in our way.
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eaglepoo,
I invite you fly axis in this set up so you can see what I mean. IIRC your squad switched numerous times during the five week event, why not do so now?
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I'm waiting for the next war, this setup is bunk imho
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hardness of CV's have been adjusted.
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Whats the current hardness??
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
hardness of CV's have been adjusted.
Might have overadjusted, I just sank an undamaged CV with 1 flight of B25-Cs @ 3K per bomber thats only 9K of bombs. I agree that 45K is too much, but 9K is too little. IMHO they should be at around 20K.
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yeah thats too little!! 20k sounds good!! I need a place to keep my sheepboy magazines!!
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Pacific setups have always been very unpopular in the AvA. In some setups after the first day the AvA would remain completely empty. lol The Japanese planeset is just too full of holes, and EVERYONE gets tired of flying Zeros after awhile. The Ki-84 is awesome, the Ki-61 rocks but...compared to a well flown F4U...there's not much they can do. The Americans have a clear advantage. Like TK said, I invite the allies to swap sides for a few days and then they'll quickly understand how frustrating it is.
Pacific setups have only been fun when the sides were fluid and squads spent time on both sides.
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Originally posted by heythere
eaglepoo,
I invite you fly axis in this set up so you can see what I mean. IIRC your squad switched numerous times during the five week event, why not do so now?
i will make it a point to as long as you come fly my wing ,try to make it tonight ,but the IJN planset is VERY capable the KI is a deadly machine when flown to its strengths
insted of throwing in the towel take up the challenge , thats all
oh and if we get there tonight for squad night and the sides are slanted ,we WILL swicth sides , and if that night is tonight i want you to be our guest
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Some of the most fun I ever had in the game was in the old "CT" as the underdog. VF-17 flew the Japanese planeset many a time to balance. Guess it's all in the mentality of it. The "won't play if it's harder for me to 'win' than my opponent to" is really an MA one that's hard to shake for some. But they never will unless someone takes them under their wing, per say, and shares the joy of the true spirit of the virtual samaurai.
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We have our "Naked night"fighter sweeps tonight ,Axis this TOD.If you show up, BYOS(bring your own sheep).:D
I enjoy the PTO sometimes,Its a nice change of pace from the ETO..need a few more Nip planes though.
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you miss my point arlo, its not about the planeset being too hard its about having to chase these guys back to the ack with little hope of catching them.
very few players fight in any of the arenas, this one being no exception.
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I will try to have the Death Dragons in there tonight, no garuntees though.
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Originally posted by heythere
you miss my point arlo, its not about the planeset being too hard its about having to chase these guys back to the ack with little hope of catching them.
very few players fight in any of the arenas, this one being no exception.
You sir, are missing the point.
Find the Virt. Fighting - 31 (VF-31 Tomcatters), we will not run to the ack. I and the rest of my squad would rather fight away from it & can't stand people who do.
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I haven't had the privilege of fighting any of the tomcatters, though I look forward to it. Thus far all I have seen are running 51's and timid ack hugging goobernaughts.
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Originally posted by republic
I haven't had the privilege of fighting any of the tomcatters, though I look forward to it. Thus far all I have seen are running 51's and timid ack hugging goobernaughts.
same here. since everyone so far has run from my Ki61 I can only surmise that I have not run into any of the VF31 players.
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Republic & Heythere, I have the same ID in game as I do on the forums.
Find me or any of the -=Virt. Fighting - 31=- in the AvA and we'll be glad to tell you where we are at.
I'm not sure we will have as many guys on like we did last night, but I assure you that we are an aggressive squad & would rather die in an honest fight then hug any ack.
Beware, where there is one or two Catters there are usually more close by :) But we will do our best to keep a fight fare.
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The 11th is in (I believe), tonight.
Salute Johann,...I'll see ya up.
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Originally posted by republic
I haven't had the privilege of fighting any of the tomcatters, though I look forward to it. Thus far all I have seen are running 51's and timid ack hugging goobernaughts.
You must not be on when I'm flying then as I tend to just head to the largest enemy concentration.
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Originally posted by Larry
Some of us dont like how the settings are in the allies favor this week. If they were set to normal it would be a different story, but its not.
Now were was that attitude towards balanced play when 262's and Ar234s ran amok.
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Originally posted by heythere
you miss my point arlo, its not about the planeset being too hard its about having to chase these guys back to the ack with little hope of catching them.
very few players fight in any of the arenas, this one being no exception.
I wasn't addressing your point, heythere. I was addressing someone else's. :)
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Originally posted by Stampf
The 11th is in (I believe), tonight.
Salute Johann,...I'll see ya up.
LOL, I should be on the German side huh :D
~Vor der Kaserne vor dem grossen Tor~
See yall in there. I may be on around 9Est/8Cent
<> Stampf aka "Dave"
P.S. Disregard my PM... LOL
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I just logged off from the AvA. I had two or three nice fights but at no time was it less than against three vs one odds against me.
every single allied player was way up high and ganging. I managed to land one three kill sortie but all the other times I was HO'd repeatedly (four or five F6Fs from VF31 lining up to HO) and at all times ganged.
this week is to be recognised as a token easy week for the allieds, a feel better week. I'm for it make it easier for them.
I won't be logging back on tonight I think I'll go to the MA for some good fights.
my impressions of VF31 are far different from what you want to project rattfink I'm sorry to say. I'll look for you personally as I have not run across you yet.
ente
II/JG5 "Eismeer"
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I don't think this plane set is nearly as bad as is being portrayed. The only thing that kind of sucks is that once our ords are down (one Jabo can accomplish that) we are pretty much screwed for a while. But as far as planes go... the KIs are very respectable. They don't move at 190D speeds, but they will actually turn. And they've got 20mm :) This is definitely a challenging map for us.
I only fly German or American Iron....(I won't even buy an asian car) But I'm trying the Axis even though the Allies have almost all my fav birds. 38G, D25, F4U... But I've had some great fights so far! Allies, I look forward to seeing you in the skies with my spontaniously combustible paper airplane :t
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All this Axis whaggggmbulance calling about HO this and HO that... sheesh quit coming at us haed on and you won't have to call the Waghmbulance anymore. :D
FWIW - I seen more than my share of stratosphere Axis in the past months. He who is low usually dies. Allies finally caught on.:aok
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Originally posted by heythere
I just logged off from the AvA. I had two or three nice fights but at no time was it less than against three vs one odds against me.
every single allied player was way up high and ganging. I managed to land one three kill sortie but all the other times I was HO'd repeatedly (four or five F6Fs from VF31 lining up to HO) and at all times ganged.
this week is to be recognised as a token easy week for the allieds, a feel better week. I'm for it make it easier for them.
I won't be logging back on tonight I think I'll go to the MA for some good fights.
my impressions of VF31 are far different from what you want to project rattfink I'm sorry to say. I'll look for you personally as I have not run across you yet.
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II/JG5 "Eismeer"
Yeah, Ive seen the same on both sides. 5 dif. times tonight, planes have either hoed or tried to ho. I just nose down to hopefully pull an immelman or Split S. If I see a enemy start to fire in a head on & I am unable to use an ACM, it's all guns a' blazin; But not until they fire first.
I'd rather be in a long dogfight then ho.
I'm not sure all those guys were Catters (VF-31) if so I'll have a pow wow w/ em. But I think they have the same mindset as I when it comes to the enemy shooting first.
Most of the time I was getting stuck out by myself and getting my rear stabilizers shot off :0)
<> Good Fights All :) Nice to see more Axis on tonight :D <>
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Originally posted by BoostPSI
I don't think this plane set is nearly as bad as is being portrayed. The only thing that kind of sucks is that once our ords are down (one Jabo can accomplish that) we are pretty much screwed for a while. But as far as planes go... the KIs are very respectable. They don't move at 190D speeds, but they will actually turn. And they've got 20mm :) This is definitely a challenging map for us.
I only fly German or American Iron....(I won't even buy an asian car) But I'm trying the Axis even though the Allies have almost all my fav birds. 38G, D25, F4U... But I've had some great fights so far! Allies, I look forward to seeing you in the skies with my spontaniously combustible paper airplane :t
The KI-84 is a bad arse plane & can out turn most naval planes. Underrated in the MA's.
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The Ki84 is far too easy to get kills in. the zeke is a sword that cuts both ways it will kill but it dies far too easily. my preferrannce given the limits is the Ki61. played properly it is more than a match and it comes down to pile-it.
too bad so many in the AvA can do only one thing climb into the high thin cartoon air and then bore n snore.
in the midst of all the foolishness I did manage four or five pretty good fights with frode and his wingman. a 2 v 1 is acceptable, beyond that it is no fun for the single guy.
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Originally posted by heythere
my impressions of VF31 are far different from what you want to project rattfink I'm sorry to say. I'll look for you personally as I have not run across you yet.
My guys have been trained and know not to fire on a head on unless the enemy con fires first. Its one of our number one rules in the game. The only exception to this rule is if your are out numbered 4 to 1, then by all means, use everything you can to survive.
IMO Axis had an easy night, the complaining about the carrier strength seemed to have worked in axis favor!! And as of milk running, there was plenty of that tonight! When i logged into the AvA at 8 est. Axis had 17 players while the Allies only had 4. By the time 9:30 the numbers finally evened out! So, personally, id LOVE not to hear any more complaining from the Axis side about mil krunning!!
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Fork said milking is okay now. 17 to 4, Iv seen it like that many times during the war, but it was the axis with 4.
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Originally posted by Larry
Fork said milking is okay now. 17 to 4, Iv seen it like that many times during the war, but it was the axis with 4.
But for that reason, is why I maintain that jumping sides' to the disadvantaged country is ethical. When I logged on around 4pm. PST, There were 4 guys' attacking a V base defended by MUGADAI. I went Rook (allied) to help him.
Then, of course, more people started logging on, and eventually the numbers' evened out.
in the midst of all the foolishness I did manage four or five pretty good fights with frode and his wingman. a 2 v 1 is acceptable, beyond that it is no fun for the single guy.
Yeah, there were some good fights. I was always wondering, though...The Rooks' at their height tonight, had 17 on, to the Bish's (axis) 18. But I only ever saw about 5 Bish's flying at once. Where were the rest? I was kinda hoping to see a big Furball...
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Easy. *ShruG*
I fly the F4U Corsair. You do it out of love. You do it out of hate. But she owns your joystick. Fun is getting a kill ... sure. Ecstacy is getting a hard kill. And it's the other pile-it that'll make my day (more than the kite he flies).
virtual samauris of the AH skies .... cawd bless you for helping me live my virtual Jolly Roger fantasies (soon again!) :D
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Originally posted by Larry
Fork said milking is okay now.
Really??
1Duke1 asked us Tomcatters to kindly stop taking bases last night "2/18/09" because the teams were uneven....
Hhhmmmm....
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heythere, here's your website that I made for your CO
http://jg5eismeer.low-ping.com/
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Originally posted by Arlo
Easy. *ShruG*
I fly the F4U Corsair. You do it out of love. You do it out of hate. But she owns your joystick. Fun is getting a kill ... sure. Ecstacy is getting a hard kill. And it's the other pile-it that'll make my day (more than the kite he flies).
virtual samauris of the AH skies .... cawd bless you for helping me live my virtual Jolly Roger fantasies (soon again!) :D
you're silly :rofl <>
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Originally posted by RATTFINK
your silly :rofl <>
My silly? (Checks fly) Sorry. And it's pronounced "willy." And don't laugh. ;)
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ahhhh... Fellow US Naval squads, gotta love it :D We should do a CoOp in the near future sir :)
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You got it! I'll see how many survivors are still about when I reactivate. VF-27 Hellcats are a good lot too. :)
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Arlo is a good wingman, just dont let him sing...
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Wingman ... singman ... either way someone's gonna die (maybe even me). :D
(Grits is better .... wingman)
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Originally posted by Arlo
Wingman ... singman ... either way someone's gonna die (mosty me). :D
(Grits is better .... with one wing falling to earth)
Fixed:D
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I'll be watching for you shorebatteryboy. ;)
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Being der uber noob to AH II this is the first time I have flown the IJ aircraft as modeled and am pretty disgusted with the plane set.
The A6M5 is...well a zeke. I farted and lost an elevator in that damn thing, and of course it bursts into flame at the mere thought of being hit by an enemy tracer. The zeke is minced meat against the hawg and hellcat series.
(good episode of dogfight for the hellcat fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7XJGsbhCgc&feature=related )
The KI84 accelerates well, climbs well, and is speedier, but heaven forbid you point the nose down... Visions of the six million dollar man flash through my head when I fly this POS "she's breaking up! She's breaking up!"... I thought this bird could actually turn, but the only thing I can turn with consistently has been the 38 series, pretty much everything else floats away, or manages to get enough dive speed to limit the KI's control surfaces.
Not impressed.
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Originally posted by RATTFINK
heythere, here's your website that I made for your CO
http://jg5eismeer.low-ping.com/
that is a very nice site RATTFINK. I started JG5 and so far it is a single player squadron so I don't believe it is the same group. thank you for posting that link just the same.
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Originally posted by Gunter Van Ulm
but heaven forbid you point the nose down... Visions of the six million dollar man flash through my head when I fly this POS "she's breaking up! She's breaking up!"... I thought this bird could actually turn, but the only thing I can turn with consistently has been the 38 series, pretty much everything else floats away, or manages to get enough dive speed to limit the KI's control surfaces.
Not impressed.
i flew the ki-84 last night and found that it was a good turner and a good diver, IF YOU TAKE POWER OFF! if you dont, you're screwed. i dove out from under a p47 and pulled up just a few inches off the ground. its just a matter of getting used to it.
i also flew the zeke last night and found the turning ability a advantage and its speed a disadvantage. at one point, according to my squaddies, i managed to hold off about 15 planes that were all trying to get me over 18. i managed to get lucky and out manuever them for awhile but it was only a matter of time. 15 V 1 is a little tough.
Luckily we fly Luftwaffe planes most of the time so we're used to planes with personalities. you guys that fly allied planes arent quite as good with a airframe personality.
come fly with us for a bit and you'll learn. i went into the MA and grabbed a spit 14 and was devastating with it. 4 kills right off the bat. as soon as i went back to the FW i got my lunch handed to me. its a much harder plane set. if you can get good with a flying tank, you will wreak havoc in a better plane. just my 2 cents.
In case you're wondering, im only into this game a few months, so im pretty new
:aok :aok
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Originally posted by Gunter Van Ulm
Being der uber noob to AH II this is the first time I have flown the IJ aircraft as modeled and am pretty disgusted with the plane set.
The A6M5 is...well a zeke. I farted and lost an elevator in that damn thing, and of course it bursts into flame at the mere thought of being hit by an enemy tracer. The zeke is minced meat against the hawg and hellcat series.
(good episode of dogfight for the hellcat fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7XJGsbhCgc&feature=related )
The KI84 accelerates well, climbs well, and is speedier, but heaven forbid you point the nose down... Visions of the six million dollar man flash through my head when I fly this POS "she's breaking up! She's breaking up!"... I thought this bird could actually turn, but the only thing I can turn with consistently has been the 38 series, pretty much everything else floats away, or manages to get enough dive speed to limit the KI's control surfaces.
Not impressed.
Ki-84-Ia has 839 Kills of All models
All models have 489 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Ki-61 has 136 Kills of All models
All models have 76 Kills of Ki-61
A6M5b has 185 Kills of All models
All models have 170 Kills of A6M5b
Impressed or not, this weeks arena stats, beg to differ. Even your "zeke" is holding it's own, sir.
EDIT: Ki-84-Ia has 204 Kills of F6F-5
F6F-5 has 121 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Corsair is fairing just as bad:
Ki-84-Ia has 146 Kills of F4U-1D
F4U-1D has 74 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Lightnings:
Ki-84-Ia has 37 Kills of P-38L
P-38L has 9 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Ki-84-Ia has 13 Kills of P-38J
P-38J has 9 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Ki-84-Ia has 78 Kills of FM2
FM2 has 45 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Mustangs: Holding their own
Ki-84-Ia has 57 Kills of P-51D
P-51D has 64 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
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Originally posted by Stampf
Ki-84-Ia has 839 Kills of All models
All models have 489 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Ki-61 has 136 Kills of All models
All models have 76 Kills of Ki-61
A6M5b has 185 Kills of All models
All models have 170 Kills of A6M5b
Impressed or not, this weeks arena stats, beg to differ. Even your "zeke" is holding it's own, sir.
EDIT: Ki-84-Ia has 204 Kills of F6F-5
F6F-5 has 121 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Corsair is fairing just as bad:
Ki-84-Ia has 146 Kills of F4U-1D
F4U-1D has 74 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Lightnings:
Ki-84-Ia has 37 Kills of P-38L
P-38L has 9 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Ki-84-Ia has 13 Kills of P-38J
P-38J has 9 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
Ki-84-Ia has 78 Kills of FM2
FM2 has 45 Kills of Ki-84-Ia
I'd like to add to this, apart from the Stats; The Axis has the single most underestimated plane in the entire AH planeset, too. The Ki-61.
Many of you will find it's an incredibly good plane, even if it is just a tad slower than the other Axis planes' most are used too. It's really alot like flying a 109E or F.
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KI- 61 is a dream.
to continue...
The zeke is minced meat against the hawg and hellcat series.
A6M5b has 32 Kills of F4U-1D
F4U-1D has 26 Kills of A6M5b
A6M5b has 42 Kills of F6F-5
F6F-5 has 51 Kills of A6M5b
...nope.
...and the hot rod FM2 (I like that ride).(?)
A6M5b has 80 Kills of FM2
FM2 has 75 Kills of A6M5b
..uhm, nope.
My point in bringing this out is really simple. If you trully are the "uber Noob", grab some countrymen, and instead of getting disgusted, get some seat time.
These are all capable fighter planes.
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Originally posted by Stampf
KI- 61 is a dream.
to continue...
A6M5b has 32 Kills of F4U-1D
F4U-1D has 26 Kills of A6M5b
A6M5b has 42 Kills of F6F-5
F6F-5 has 51 Kills of A6M5b
...nope.
...and the hot rod FM2 (I like that ride).(?)
A6M5b has 80 Kills of FM2
FM2 has 75 Kills of A6M5b
..uhm, nope.
My point in bringing this out is really simple. If you trully are the "uber Noob", grab some countrymen, and instead of getting disgusted, get some seat time.
These are all capable fighter planes.
You have been hanging out with Lusche too much, I think!
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heh,
Ya never know Von, Herr VanUlm may be the next schmutzigerhund...Gotta keep a clear head.
VanUlm...If you plan on flying in the AvA often, and we all hope you do, you might want to consider the Allied rides too, for if you are disgusted with Axis PTO, you will never have fun in ETO. The Japaneese aircraft are very easy to fly and do well in compared to the aircraft of Germany.
Stick with it.
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Originally posted by Stampf
anUlm...If you plan on flying in the AvA often, and we all hope you do, you might want to consider the Allied rides too
Which leads to another very good point: Flying the AvA almost necessarily teaches you to master quite a wide variety of planes. You won't be able to grab your P-51, Spit 16, 109K4 or whatever and fly nothing else forever. This is one of the reasons for the arena's traditional low numbers, but it's also one of the features that makes it a lot of fun for people who aren't wedded to a single aircraft.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Stampf
heh,
Ya never know Von, Herr VanUlm may be the next schmutzigerhund...Gotta keep a clear head.
VanUlm...If you plan on flying in the AvA often, and we all hope you do, you might want to consider the Allied rides too, for if you are disgusted with Axis PTO, you will never have fun in ETO. The Japaneese aircraft are very easy to fly and do well in compared to the aircraft of Germany.
Stick with it.
I was referring to the compilation and study of data, ala Herr Lusche :rofl
:O I am the ONLY Schmutziger Hund!!
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Originally posted by captain1ma
Luckily we fly Luftwaffe planes most of the time so we're used to planes with personalities. you guys that fly allied planes arent quite as good with a airframe personality.
You want to feel special really bad don't you?:lol
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I am the ONLY Schmutziger Hund!!
For that we give thanks and praise.;)
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"Impressed or not, this weeks arena stats, beg to differ. Even your "zeke" is holding it's own, sir."
I was flying near the JG54 boys last night methinks, and they were indeed tearing it up! Awesome team work, and it was great to watch.
The german iron I am far more familiar with, but I am sticking with it because the AvA is about as close as I can get to what I enjoy the most out of these flight sims.
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Originally posted by captain1ma
come fly with us for a bit and you'll learn. i went into the MA and grabbed a spit 14 and was devastating with it. 4 kills right off the bat. as soon as i went back to the FW i got my lunch handed to me. its a much harder plane set. if you can get good with a flying tank, you will wreak havoc in a better plane. just my 2 cents.
:aok :aok
No offense but you haven't flown the Spitfire Mk XIV within the last 3 tours and from your record, you don't do very well in the FW190, let alone any other German plane. All bark, no bite?
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
No offense but you haven't flown the Spitfire Mk XIV within the last 3 tours and from your record, you don't do very well in the FW190, let alone any other German plane. All bark, no bite?
ack-ack
oh oh, Ack Ack has found the AvA forums. Quick, get the MP40s!
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Personally I love the Ki-61 more than the Ki-84.
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but I am sticking with it because the AvA is about as close as I can get to what I enjoy the most out of these flight sims.
Glad to hear that.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
No offense but you haven't flown the Spitfire Mk XIV within the last 3 tours and from your record, you don't do very well in the FW190, let alone any other German plane. All bark, no bite?
ack-ack
Alas but i have, i flew it in the DA, i would never switch sides to fly one. im strictly a axis sort of guys as opposed to those that dwell on the dark side with their p51's and their P38's
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by the way i just did my stats, the ones you're looking at. according to the stats, i havent killed anyone in any plane. so how good are the stats.
one should be careful when stepping through a mine field :aok
Long Live Storch
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Originally posted by Stampf
I am the ONLY Schmutziger Hund!!
For that we give thanks and praise.;)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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Originally posted by captain1ma
Alas but i have, i flew it in the DA, i would never switch sides to fly one. im strictly a axis sort of guys as opposed to those that dwell on the dark side with their p51's and their P38's
Originally posted by captain1ma
i went into the MA and grabbed a spit 14...
You chihuahuas in your lederhosen crack me up. You can't even get your story straight, first you upped a Spit 14 in the MA and "was devastating in it" then it switched to the DA. I'm sure you're just as devestating in Luftwhiner planes as you were in the Spitfire Mk XIV.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by captain1ma
by the way i just did my stats, the ones you're looking at. according to the stats, i havent killed anyone in any plane. so how good are the stats.
one should be careful when stepping through a mine field :aok
Long Live Storch
[snicker] Have you tried searching under your in game handle as opposed to your forum handle? [/snicker]
You have 310 fighter sorties this AvA tour, out of which you were shot down 224 times, 185 of those times resulted in your death and only 77 successfully completed sorties. You only average .15 kills per sortie.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
[snicker] Have you tried searching under your in game handle as opposed to your forum handle? [/snicker]
You have 310 fighter sorties this AvA tour, out of which you were shot down 224 times, 185 of those times resulted in your death and only 77 successfully completed sorties. You only average .15 kills per sortie.
ack-ack
as usual the loudest bark produces little bite