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Title: RV Mirrorros
Post by: ares473 on October 08, 2010, 12:14:07 PM
I know I am not the first to suggest this, but some of the fighters did have rear view mirrors mounted on the canopy frame wether inside or out. This would be a nice feature for the planes the have them, it would help SA especially for newb. You could always add a disable feature for folks who don't want to use the mirror.
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: 1sum41 on October 08, 2010, 01:49:56 PM
iirc some spitfires had them.
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: USRanger on October 08, 2010, 02:29:11 PM
And the vibration was so bad that they were worthless.  Plus by the time you happen to see an enemy in that small mirror, he's already filling you full of lead.  If you did a search on this topic, you would see that these (true) reasons are given every time. :salute
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: RoGenT on October 08, 2010, 02:34:34 PM
And the vibration was so bad that they were worthless.  Plus by the time you happen to see an enemy in that small mirror, he's already filling you full of lead.  If you did a search on this topic, you would see that these (true) reasons are given every time. :salute


I would have to agree with Ranger. It is kind of like the small print on the mirror that says "objects in mirror are closer than what they appear" and that isn't good when you have couple of 20MMs pointing at the back of your head  :O
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: AWwrgwy on October 08, 2010, 03:07:06 PM
BigCrate if you are envision mirrors that you could see while looking forward there are 2 huge problems with them.

1. Think of the size that the mirror would be on your screen, Then envision how what you see now looking forward has to be compressed into that small area, and then how small the objects would be,or more precisly how most planes could not be seen.

2. To make a mirror is realy displaying 2 different views at once, hence you almost 1/2 frame rate.

SEARCH is your friend.

The above quote is a NO BTW.


wrongway
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: LLogann on October 08, 2010, 03:10:16 PM
We don't have any RV's though................   :uhoh
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: AceHavok on October 08, 2010, 03:25:23 PM
The P-51s had mirrors in the cockpit I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: ImADot on October 08, 2010, 03:39:49 PM
The P-51s had mirrors in the cockpit I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

People died when their planes crashed into the ground - we'd only be inconvienced if our computers crashed.  Just because things happened or were used a certain way in real life, doesn't mean it would translate well or be feasible in a game on a computer.
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: Tupac on October 08, 2010, 05:24:23 PM
We don't have any RV's though................   :uhoh

I haven seen any mirrorros either
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: gyrene81 on October 09, 2010, 09:38:17 AM
I know I am not the first to suggest this, but some of the fighters did have rear view mirrors mounted on the canopy frame wether inside or out. This would be a nice feature for the planes the have them, it would help SA especially for newb. You could always add a disable feature for folks who don't want to use the mirror.
Sorry but...ROFLMAO!!!  :rofl  :lol  :rofl  :lol  If you think a tiny little rear view mirror is going to help improve situational awareness when properly configured views and habit don't...fly bombers.



And the vibration was so bad that they were worthless.  Plus by the time you happen to see an enemy in that small mirror, he's already filling you full of lead.  If you did a search on this topic, you would see that these (true) reasons are given every time. :salute
Quoted for truth.
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: hitech on October 09, 2010, 09:57:29 AM
1. To view what a mirror really shows you, picture a gun sight behind you. Now think of only seeing what is in the gun sight ring. This is a fair representation of home much you would see in the mirror with out moving your head.

2. We give a fair about of lee way in head movement and views that you will see more simply by positioning your head in a rear view.

So we are down to a few things.

1. First the mirror is a fair fps hit, basically you have to draw the world 2 times instead of 1.
2. It does not add SA to any extent.
3. It takes time to code.

The only real plus side is that it looks cool.

So maybe some day, when all other wishes of what to work on have been completed and only mirrors are left.

HiTech






Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: Masherbrum on October 09, 2010, 10:35:25 AM
And the vibration was so bad that they were worthless.  Plus by the time you happen to see an enemy in that small mirror, he's already filling you full of lead.  If you did a search on this topic, you would see that these (true) reasons are given every time. :salute

x 100
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: Pigslilspaz on October 09, 2010, 10:14:58 PM
1. To view what a mirror really shows you, picture a gun sight behind you. Now think of only seeing what is in the gun sight ring. This is a fair representation of home much you would see in the mirror with out moving your head.

2. We give a fair about of lee way in head movement and views that you will see more simply by positioning your head in a rear view.

So we are down to a few things.

1. First the mirror is a fair fps hit, basically you have to draw the world 2 times instead of 1.
2. It does not add SA to any extent.
3. It takes time to code.

The only real plus side is that it looks cool.

So maybe some day, when all other wishes of what to work on have been completed and only mirrors are left.

HiTech








the great Oz has spoken!
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: B4Buster on October 09, 2010, 10:18:21 PM

So maybe some day, when all other wishes of what to work on have been completed and only mirrors are left.

HiTech


You hear that, guys? I think we can expect mirrors in the next patch.  :joystick:
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: Chilli on October 10, 2010, 01:34:42 PM
It is good to hear these valid points, and although I had wished for the same when water reflections were added, I agree with this thread that it's benefit would be almost entirely eye candy, and therefore at the bottom of the to do list for HTC.

My question back then, was to ponder if the same coding to make the water reflective would be instrumental in making mirrors reflective also?  Being ignorant about code, I was just wondering if they had some possible tricks used with the water (code already written) that could be useful with mirrors?
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: guncrasher on October 11, 2010, 01:59:12 AM
there's your answer, mirrors will be added in two weeks  :D.

semp
Title: Re: RV Mirrorros
Post by: ImADot on October 11, 2010, 11:57:29 AM
You could put the mirrors in, but have greasy fingerprints all over them so you won't have to draw any realtime data on them.  Or, just a static image of jumbled-up sky or something...  Either one would be pretty realistic.  :D