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Title: Good Surger Protector
Post by: Getback on June 16, 2010, 04:50:20 PM
Looking for a new surge protector. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Good Surger Protector
Post by: Soulyss on June 16, 2010, 05:24:23 PM
I'd look at either...

Panamax
www.panamax.com (http://www.panamax.com)

or APC

http://www.apc.com/index.cfm (http://www.apc.com/index.cfm)
Title: Re: Good Surger Protector
Post by: Getback on June 16, 2010, 06:56:58 PM
I'd look at either...

Panamax
www.panamax.com (http://www.panamax.com)

or APC

http://www.apc.com/index.cfm (http://www.apc.com/index.cfm)

Does that APC backup your computer?
Title: Re: Good Surger Protector
Post by: Bino on June 17, 2010, 03:19:08 PM
Where I live, we often have short power outages and spikes.  I have my wife's laptops on an APC surge strip (http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=P11VNT3), and my desktop machine on an APC battery backup (http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1300LCD&total_watts=200).  Been very happy with both.
Title: Re: Good Surger Protector
Post by: Soulyss on June 17, 2010, 04:03:42 PM
Does that APC backup your computer?

If you're looking for a UPS I would look at APC first, they'll have more options.  Panamax has a few UPS solutions themselves but they'll start around $300.00.  If you're just looking for a surge protector I have more experience with the Panamax stuff.  Can get a good surge protector for $40-$50.

Keep in mind that a surge doesn't necessarily come in over the A/C lines.  It will take the path of least resistance and could come in on the phone lines or other paths. 
Title: Re: Good Surger Protector
Post by: Ghastly on June 18, 2010, 06:43:01 AM
I can't recommend against the APC UPS units strongly enough.

For a number of years, they were the solution we used, both at office, at the disaster recovery site, and at home.  The most time consuming issue was that after the initial battery failure (at approximately the 2 year mark), subsequent replacement batteries would work for about 6 months to a year, and then require replacement again too. 

But that wasn't even close to the worst issue. Even though I would test them regularly, what would happen of course is that when power would fail, they'd be dead and I'd be dealing with data corruption.  And what was even more frustrating is that more than once, I had different units that tested fine fail to "kick in" fast enough in a power outage and the systems they were supposed to be protecting would reboot.

If you're going to bother with a UPS in the first place, use a dual conversion battery backup that's actually worth spending the money on - something like this:

http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtSeriesID=744&txtModelID=3194

It's not a UPS in the "traditional, take over when the power fails" sense.  Instead of trying to switch to battery when line power fails, a dual conversion system is constantly converting line voltage to DC, maintaining the battery, and running the inverter to generate clean conditioned power for your computer equipment.   It's like having your own mini power plant constantly generating the electricity for your computers, so regardless of how ugly the power coming in is, the power coming out to your computer is stable, clean, and consistent.  Oh, and best of all, since all the components are in use all the time, there's no !!!SURPRISE!! when the line power fails. 

With the APC's, life was hell.  With the Tripplite's, I've not had a single issue.

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Title: Re: Good Surger Protector
Post by: Masherbrum on June 18, 2010, 10:12:05 AM
I spent $80 on an APC.   I regret it.
Title: Re: Good Surger Protector
Post by: FLS on June 18, 2010, 08:43:57 PM
I have an APC with power conditioning. When there's a power loss the PC doesn't blink. The replacement battery has lasted 10 months so far with no problems.
Title: Re: Good Surger Protector
Post by: guncrasher on June 20, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
Have a 4 years old apc.  No problems yet have needed it a few times last one last month when power was turned off, had a 2 min warning to shut down.

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