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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Ack-Ack on January 21, 2015, 07:37:02 PM
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We know with the new update coming, we're getting new graphics, terrains, and base/town layouts but what else? Will we also see changes/improvements to the current flight and damage models? Will there also be game play changes such as a new strat system?
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We know with the new update coming, we're getting new graphics, terrains, and base/town layouts but what else? Will we also see changes/improvements to the current flight and damage models? Will there also be game play changes such as a new strat system?
you get your sheep baaaack.
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You are one of the last people I'd see asking such questions. :lol But I would be lying if I said these questions didn't cross my mind either. :aok
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I forgot there was going to be an update.
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If the magician reveals how the trick is done it ruins the magic. Or, if you know too much about what's coming it will ruin the surprise. Besides, the number one trait of a skilled fighter pilot is patience. :aok
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My best guess is we'd get something like when we got AH2. I recall someone mentioning rotating windmill blades as a wow! effect back then. Supposedly there'll be something equal to add immersion.
Also based on the past I suppose that at first the new version will be played very much alike this current one, strat system changes being made after seeing how the masses can capture bases etc. on the new layout.
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2 weeks...
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You'll find out when they release it two weeks from eventually. :aok
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Where are the Beta testers? Were you all sworn to secrecy? :noid
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Where are the Beta testers? Were you all sworn to secrecy? :noid
Beta testers don't exist yet. The title of the post sticky above says Alpha Testers. That usually means you sign a none disclosure pact in blood or something like that.
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Think CT light.
HiTech
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Think CT light.
HiTech
CT = Combat Trim?
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Think CT light.
HiTech
That actually answers my question, thanks.
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CT = Combat Trim?
LOL! No. Combat Tour.
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Where are the Beta testers? Were you all sworn to secrecy? :noid
Yes, all alpha testers are sworn into secrecy.
I can tell you though that I've heard they are working on a graphics update... you didn't hear it from me... :noid
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Think CT light.
HiTech
:O :banana: :x :airplane: :old:
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That's pretty big news IMO. Hope to hear more soon about that, as CT was a pretty incredible idea back in the day, some version or some of those features incorporated into the new version of AH could be a real game changer.
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I forgot there was going to be an update.
Same thing here
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Regardless of how pretty the picture is or how cool the visuals are all they will welcome are the chirps of crickets.
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Think CT light.
HiTech
uh oh
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uh oh
Don't worry, all of those who are concerned that their sleep in the tower, shall be interrupted by :noid sharks with friggn laser beams attached to their heads.
Latest discoveries of the Goblin Shark, reveals a much lighter picture of the creature.
(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.607999998975280266&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0)
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CT = Combat Trim?
No, I think he is talking about Combat Theater , something that they were working on about 15 to 20 years ago.
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Even a 'light' version of CT is Earthshakingly good news!
:airplane:
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No, I think he is talking about Combat Theater , something that they were working on about 15 to 20 years ago.
Whoa hold on, I'm not THAT old! :old:
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Regardless of how pretty the picture is or how cool the visuals are all they will welcome are the chirps of crickets.
You're a cricket now?
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Regardless of how pretty the picture is or how cool the visuals are all they will welcome are the chirps of crickets.
This will be me:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/cricket11.jpg~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/cricket11.jpg.html)
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This will be me:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/cricket11.jpg~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/cricket11.jpg.html)
:banana:
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Think CT light.
HiTech
That sounds to me like a welcome enhancement to the game! I think a few more details surrounding the planned changes could definitely build some excitement and anticipation for the next release. Pretty please, with Cragganmore on top?
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I don't know about the rest of ya'll but I loved the CT when I was playing on my 18 wheeler, because it had those canned missions I could join. I think they was like every 2 hrs or something anyway they was fun.
Used to be a lot of different mission you could download and play whenever you had time, I used them because sometimes on the truck I would be where I didn't have internet connection like delivering a log house on top of a mountain in Idaho.
salute
ab8aac
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AH III :aok
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Here's hitech enjoying the waiting game....
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w490/learningtobejustme/anticipation.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/learningtobejustme/media/anticipation.gif.html)
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I don't know about the rest of ya'll but I loved the CT when I was playing on my 18 wheeler, because it had those canned missions I could join. I think they was like every 2 hrs or something anyway they was fun.
That's fascinating, as CT never was released at all... :noid
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That's fascinating, as CT never was released at all... :noid
lol
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That's fascinating, as CT never was released at all... :noid
CT was released in alpha's.
HiTech
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CT is the old name for the AvA.
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CT was released in alpha's.
HiTech
I know it was in alpha, I was there ;)
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My wish is that the F6F-5 gets modeled with the auto-flaps and gear be able to be deployed at any speed(according to the guy that actually flies one) that is if I understood him correctly. And larger bases making it much harder to capture by one person.
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I'm hoping I can see a 30 ton tank driving across an open field from 1k AGL.
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New weather effects. Sea states. Landing ships that auto-spawn as vehicle hangars when beached. PT boats with a 10 mile ship radar...
Air turbulence that could be set by arena admins.
Hmmm.
And player controllable Destroyers... :D
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Regardless of how pretty the picture is or how cool the visuals are all they will welcome are the chirps of crickets.
What does that even mean?
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I'm hoping I can see a 30 ton tank driving across an open field from 1k AGL.
you can now if you have a life sized tv screen hahaha
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What does that even mean?
I think it is sarcasm.....
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New weather effects. Sea states. Landing ships that auto-spawn as vehicle hangars when beached. PT boats with a 10 mile ship radar...
Air turbulence that could be set by arena admins.
Hmmm.
And player controllable Destroyers... :D
And newly updated planes(i.e. Tempest, 110C-G, A-20G, etc., etc.).
With slideable canopies and beautiful contrails at high alts. :aok
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And newly updated planes(i.e. Tempest, 110C-G, A-20G, etc., etc.).
With slideable canopies and beautiful contrails at high alts. :aok
If you are lying i will destroy your Physical Location. :devil
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If you are lying i will destroy your Physical Location. :devil
Too late :bolt:
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Here's hitech enjoying the waiting game....
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w490/learningtobejustme/anticipation.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/learningtobejustme/media/anticipation.gif.html)
:rofl
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Too late :bolt:
(http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-nichijou-tagme-anime-explosion-804254.gif)
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(http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-nichijou-tagme-anime-explosion-804254.gif)
:rofl :lol
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For those of us who don't play consistently or have been gone. What's CT and how was it different?
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For those of us who don't play consistently or have been gone. What's CT and how was it different?
http://hitechcreations.com/ct/about.html
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Is it against other players? It sounds like it will take away from the main arenas.
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Is it against other players? It sounds like it will take away from the main arenas.
It was meant as an add-on to the main arenas. There was to be missions run from the "server" every couple hours to push toward a common goal. Player could join missions, or fight on the intercept and defense. They were going to add in AI to fill out missions so you could feel like you were in those massive bomber raids of the war. The AI fighters were pretty good. When they first were introduced you couldn't beat them. Luckily they had an adjustablity built in so HTC could dumb them down a bit.
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It was meant as an add-on to the main arenas. There was to be missions run from the "server" every couple hours to push toward a common goal. Player could join missions, or fight on the intercept and defense. They were going to add in AI to fill out missions so you could feel like you were in those massive bomber raids of the war. The AI fighters were pretty good. When they first were introduced you couldn't beat them. Luckily they had an adjustablity built in so HTC could dumb them down a bit.
And I will spam the bajesus out of staged missions when they become usable!
:devil
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The AI fighters were pretty good. When they first were introduced you couldn't beat them. Luckily they had an adjustablity built in so HTC could dumb them down a bit.
My only experience with CT AI fighters was in the AvA where missions were occasionally tried using the remnants of CT. I found the AI fighters to be impossible to kill (unless they got target fixated) and nearly impossible to escape. Would that be comparable to before being dumbed down or after?
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My only experience with CT AI fighters was in the AvA where missions were occasionally tried using the remnants of CT. I found the AI fighters to be impossible to kill (unless they got target fixated) and nearly impossible to escape. Would that be comparable to before being dumbed down or after?
:rofl
They don't need to be dumbed down... The AI fly sensible in a attempt to get on your 6 and use the plane to it's maximum... They don't do anything fancy or unpredictable... If people want dumbed down easy targets they'll fly in the main arena...
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:rofl
They don't need to be dumbed down... The AI fly sensible in a attempt to get on your 6 and use the plane to it's maximum... They don't do anything fancy or unpredictable... If people want dumbed down easy targets they'll fly in the main arena...
The AI should simulate a puppy dog peeing on your lap or wife hitting the back of your head with her rolling pin to give a fair edge to the players.
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My only experience with CT AI fighters was in the AvA where missions were occasionally tried using the remnants of CT. I found the AI fighters to be impossible to kill (unless they got target fixated) and nearly impossible to escape. Would that be comparable to before being dumbed down or after?
Like i said they are adjustable. It was set up as an arena setting like the ack lethality. So when the guys were running it in the AvA they set it how they liked it. At that time they may have made them a little more toward the "expert" side only to challenge themselves a bit more.
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:rofl
They don't need to be dumbed down... The AI fly sensible in a attempt to get on your 6 and use the plane to it's maximum... They don't do anything fancy or unpredictable... If people want dumbed down easy targets they'll fly in the main arena...
apart from their laser aim and above average ACM their SA sucked!
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Like i said they are adjustable. It was set up as an arena setting like the ack lethality. So when the guys were running it in the AvA they set it how they liked it. At that time they may have made them a little more toward the "expert" side only to challenge themselves a bit more.
Actually no, there were no difficulty levels to be set. The only thing you could set was distance at which they would engage.
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Just hope they fix the bomber formation drones in staged missions so they perform like the MA formation drones. Salvo, delay times, guns etc.
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-1000 To AI aircraft in the main arenas.
<moded a wrong post, hope I got it back correctly.Sorry, HiTech>
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AI is better than no players on at all. It can supplement low number periods.
Unless you prefer to site-see during low numbers time slots. :old:
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Add the folded wings on f4u's when they are parked(because i fly f4u's and it will look even more coooler). Also add a button to slide canopy open. And please please please make it difficult as possible to hit the HQ. :cool: :cool: :cool:
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AI is better than no players on at all. It can supplement low number periods.
Unless you prefer to site-see during low numbers time slots. :old:
That's a matter of opinion. Drone bombers that will hopefully tend to get players headed in a direction? Yes please! Drone fighters, I'm not as enthusiastic about.
Wiley.
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Think CT light.
HiTech
w00t !!! :x
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apart from their laser aim and above average ACM their SA sucked!
:D
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That's a matter of opinion. Drone bombers that will hopefully tend to get players headed in a direction? Yes please! Drone fighters, I'm not as enthusiastic about.
Wiley.
Flights of drone bombers, routinely hitting multiple towns on all three sides could help spread out the action. Bomber hunters would have more targets and base takers would have a head start on several towns of each enemy chess piece. At least have drone bombers on the large maps, as they can stagnate badly.
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Flights of drone bombers, routinely hitting multiple towns on all three sides could help spread out the action. Bomber hunters would have more targets and base takers would have a head start on several towns of each enemy chess piece. At least have drone bombers on the large maps, as they can stagnate badly.
If this happens, I would hope to see varied types of bombers, not just flights of B-17's/24's. Example would be; in a section of a front that has high enemy activity, you would see bombers like the B-17 & B-24. In area's were there isn't any activity, you would see G4M1's, Ju-88's, B-25C's, etc.
If the numbers will be based off of bomber's defensive ability/bomb load/survivability, then you'd see a lot more G4M1's show up vs B-17's. Another spot into numbers would be based off of a side's numbers. The side with the highest number would spawn in stuff like the G4M1, Ju-88, B-25C; while the side with the lowest number would spawn in stuff like the B-17, B-24 and B-29.
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If the numbers will be based off of bomber's defensive ability/bomb load/survivability, then you'd see a lot more G4M1's show up vs B-17's. Another spot into numbers would be based off of a side's numbers. The side with the highest number would spawn in stuff like the G4M1, Ju-88, B-25C; while the side with the lowest number would spawn in stuff like the B-17, B-24 and B-29.
+1
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I wonder if there are new "HD" cockpits in the works? It's a shame to have cockpits like A-20 or Ki-61 in 21st century.
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If this happens, I would hope to see varied types of bombers, not just flights of B-17's/24's.
The side with the highest number would spawn in stuff like the G4M1, Ju-88, B-25C; while the side with the lowest number would spawn in stuff like the B-17, B-24 and B-29.
Good idea, except leave out the perk bombers. :aok
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Good idea, except leave out the perk bombers. :aok
Well, I was under the guess of, shooting down these drones wouldn't give you the perks that shooting down a player based plane would. Maybe 25%? The 29 was just an example. :) It would be bad for a town. Now if we had to level a city to capture something, then.... :devil
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I woke up from a dream at 3:30 this morning:
I was driving through my town, it was dark and lightly raining. As I came to an intersection, I beheld a large illuminated billboard. Featured on the billboard were several formations of B-17s, on the top was the Aces High logo and on the left side there was a caption that read something like "CT coming soon!". Can't say for sure, but I think I saw a March release date (pretty sure that was stuck in my head because that is when we are set to open an apartment complex). :noid
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this.
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apart from their laser aim and above average ACM their SA sucked!
They fall for over-shoots very easy :old:
They have no sense for live throttle control :old:
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That's a matter of opinion. Drone bombers that will hopefully tend to get players headed in a direction? Yes please! Drone fighters, I'm not as enthusiastic about.
Nope. Not an opinion during low number times. I wish it was!!!
1. See action on map\dar - up a plane.
2. Get to location only to find no one there.
3. Repeat.
Better to engage a drone than nothing at for of many us.
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Nope. Not an opinion during low number times. I wish it was!!!
1. See action on map\dar - up a plane.
2. Get to location only to find no one there.
3. Repeat.
Better to engage a drone than nothing at for of many us.
...which makes it an opinion. I'd rather do something else than kill AI fighters.
Wiley.
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...which makes it an opinion. I'd rather do something else than kill AI fighters.
Context is EVERYTHING.
That there are times when the are very low numbers and you cannot find action IS A FACT at this time. :old:
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Context is EVERYTHING.
That there are times when the are very low numbers and you cannot find action IS A FACT at this time. :old:
Yep. And what I'm saying is, drone fighters are not a solution for everybody. For some they're actually a problem.
Wiley.
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I will go play War Thunder for free..........
Before I Pay to fight AI.
The number One problem in AH right now is low player numbers. But do we see any commercials on TV, ads on the internet. How about a write up in PC Pilot Magazine? They talk about the IL-2 series, Rise of Flight and other combat flight sims all the time.......... but never AH.
(http://www.pcpilot.net/central/images/articles/8634.jpg)
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I will go play War Thunder for free..........
Before I Pay to fight AI.
The number One problem in AH right now is low player numbers. But do we see any commercials on TV, ads on the internet. How about a write up in PC Pilot Magazine? They talk about the IL-2 series, Rise of Flight and other combat flight sims all the time.......... but never AH.
I have been mystified by this myself. Aces High seems to be too often snubbed or go unnoticed by simming media. I don't know why a flight sim that could at one time get 500+ all in one arena on a night would not be considered worthy of a lot of press and reviews, articles, etc. Or take fan sites, like Simmers Paint Shop - they have a dedicated forum for Targetware, but nothing for AH!? AH is an active flight sim that allows skinning contributions by the community - that has got to be right in Simmers Paint Shop's wheelhouse, and yet they have nothing related specifically to the AH community. I don't get it.
Having said that, I think now is not the time for a media blitz to increase player numbers. Might be better to wait until the new version is out and stable before spending resources trying to get a bunch of new subscribers. I really hope the new terrains will be comparable to the best, most realistic terrains in War Thunder (some of WT's terrains are just fantasy world-like, IMO). And I think its critical to get the AH1 models updated or out of the game until they can be brought up to the current standard. I do not think the F4F cockpit, for example, makes a good impression of the AH at all - not for people who have seem DCS cockpits, War Thunder, etc. But the newer plane models' cockpit art, like the Hurricane, absolutely look top-notch and compare favorably to the other, newer sims.
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Nope. Not an opinion during low number times. I wish it was!!!
1. See action on map\dar - up a plane.
2. Get to location only to find no one there.
3. Repeat.
Better to engage a drone than nothing at for of many us.
January 12, 2015, 02:42:23 PM »
There is a place for AI in AH's future, but this place is not in the MA.
HiTech
I wouldn't hold your breath on that one Slade.
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Those who hate on the prospect of AI in the game need to know that it's a lot more than just bot planes. Massive formations, structure, mission briefings radio chatter, sound effects, etc, etc to make it super immersive.
It's not meant for the any plane from any country at any time LW arena, but it can be a really cool experience when you can't find enough action in the MA.
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Those who hate on the prospect of AI in the game need to know that it's a lot more than just bot planes. Massive formations, structure, mission briefings radio chatter, sound effects, etc, etc to make it super immersive.
It's not meant for the any plane from any country at any time LW arena, but it can be a really cool experience when you can't find enough action in the MA.
Jimson,
I know AI was used in the AvA arena - are you saying there was radio chatter and large formations, etc like that already? Or is that what you envision AI to be in the future? The radio chatter and sound effects sound pretty cool to me.
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regular missions with a purpose other than "overwhelm" could get me excited. so much so, not much else matters.
that said many people are turned off by lack of success. Success getting a field, success defending a map, success getting a kill, success getting a thrill, success living the dream.
I hope CT helps me get excited to play. I also hope we can get more people so everyone is happy.
:airplane:
ps except the knigits, they are a silly group who smells of elderberrys. :old:
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Jimson,
I know AI was used in the AvA arena - are you saying there was radio chatter and large formations, etc like that already? Or is that what you envision AI to be in the future? The radio chatter and sound effects sound pretty cool to me.
We created some missions with these things. It's a capability that already exists. I'm not certain these missions still work offline but here is one you could try to get an idea of some of the things that can be done. It has instructions so you can get the most out of it.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,364001.0.html
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I have been mystified by this myself. Aces High seems to be too often snubbed or go unnoticed by simming media. I don't know why a flight sim that could at one time get 500+ all in one arena on a night would not be considered worthy of a lot of press and reviews, articles, etc. Or take fan sites, like Simmers Paint Shop - they have a dedicated forum for Targetware, but nothing for AH!? AH is an active flight sim that allows skinning contributions by the community - that has got to be right in Simmers Paint Shop's wheelhouse, and yet they have nothing related specifically to the AH community. I don't get it.
Having said that, I think now is not the time for a media blitz to increase player numbers. Might be better to wait until the new version is out and stable before spending resources trying to get a bunch of new subscribers. I really hope the new terrains will be comparable to the best, most realistic terrains in War Thunder (some of WT's terrains are just fantasy world-like, IMO). And I think its critical to get the AH1 models updated or out of the game until they can be brought up to the current standard. I do not think the F4F cockpit, for example, makes a good impression of the AH at all - not for people who have seem DCS cockpits, War Thunder, etc. But the newer plane models' cockpit art, like the Hurricane, absolutely look top-notch and compare favorably to the other, newer sims.
I may be WAY off base here. But I might guess those other games have deeper pockets with which to contribute to those publications for those write ups.
Only saying because my experiences have been that anything that can be corrupted. Usually gets corrupted. And its the only way I can think of to explain such positive reviews and write ups on products I know to be junk.
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I may be WAY off base here. But I might guess those other games have deeper pockets with which to contribute to those publications for those write ups.
Only saying because my experiences have been that anything that can be corrupted. Usually gets corrupted. And its the only way I can think of to explain such positive reviews and write ups on products I know to be junk.
Too many. Periods.
Other than that I tend to agree.
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Zoney, Wiley,
Help me understand something. I think you guys obviously know something I dont and I stand to learn a lot from you.
Assuming that my employer will not change my hours...
If you are not into score, dont do milk runs and the like, i.e. play this game for flight combat: what do you do when 90% of the time that you have to play are low number times and you cannot find a fight?
EDIT: This was not always the case in this game. Only more recently have the numbers during these times fallen as they have.
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My position on AI vehicles: I'd rather fly around looking for a fight with a live person than wonder if my opponent is AI. The day I'm not sure if I'm fighting AI is the day I start looking for another game.
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I may be WAY off base here. But I might guess those other games have deeper pockets with which to contribute to those publications for those write ups.
Only saying because my experiences have been that anything that can be corrupted. Usually gets corrupted. And its the only way I can think of to explain such positive reviews and write ups on products I know to be junk.
Yeah if my days of writing for outdoors publications are to be remembered Aces High isnt giving them enough free chit.
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January 12, 2015, 02:42:23 PM »
There is a place for AI in AH's future, but this place is not in the MA.
HiTech
I wouldn't hold your breath on that one Slade.
I'm surprised at those who have been around Hitech a long time. When he says something like this, he means it. And you also know he will not let cats out of bags any sooner than it suits his agenda. I thought it was only our wives and girlfriends who divine the future from rumors they create to indulge their addiction to being drama queens while shortening our life spans from the stress.
And then you ramp the divinations up to the point of driving away customers to force Hitech to step in and ban half of you for the non factual drama insanity. All because Hitech won't tell you every little thing he is thinking 24x7.
At least Hitech is smarter than McDonalds who just fired their CEO because he caved to spurious customer feedback and had the oil the French fries were cooked in changed. Seems beef tallow was the secret ingredient, and sales dropped of when they conceded to sky falling, end of the world drama queens, accusing McDonalds of feeding the planet to death on evil animal fat.
The OP had a good start until you guys burned the sky again.
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If you are not into score, dont do milk runs and the like, i.e. play this game for flight combat: what do you do when 90% of the time that you have to play are low number times and you cannot find a fight?
If there is one other person online who feels the same you can duel them in the DA.
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My position on AI vehicles: I'd rather fly around looking for a fight with a live person than wonder if my opponent is AI. The day I'm not sure if I'm fighting AI is the day I start looking for another game.
No worries
Maybe you missed this in another thread.
January 12, 2015, 02:42:23 PM »
There is a place for AI in AH's future, but this place is not in the MA.
HiTech
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And to think it will all be done in TWO WEEKS.