Air to Ground Attack: Neutral on this point
Air to Air Combat: Never
Kill the enemy.... but do not hate them (unless it's ISIS, hating is open there)
Why? Does it strike you as unsporting that we dont put your neighbors kid at risk of being blown to pieces? Maybe captured, tortured, and beheaded?
I for one dont care how we kill the enemy as long as they end up dead. There's nothing more pathetic then when we give a bunch of civilians a vote in the rules of engagement in a war they, or their kids, aren't fighting.
Ive talked to these troops coming back from I-crap and I-crapistan. They are just disgusted with these ROE's the couch warriors are forcing upon them.
The bad guys don't follow any rules and neither should we. The more terrible you make war, the sooner it will be over.
Kobane Syria today , cool photos on Dailymail, what a fireworks party, drones are too small for big jobs like this; :lolThis is an outrage! indiscriminate bombing in civilian areas.
Love this photo:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/18/1413652001326_wps_33_Smoke_rises_over_Syrian_t.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2798266/raining-fire-isis-amazing-picture-captures-moment-u-s-bomb-lands-heart-kobani-kurdish-leader-warns-airstrikes-not-defeat-jihadists.html
This is an outrage! indiscriminate bombing in civilian areas.
Just wait till the UN, Humans Rights Watch, Doctors Without Borders, Cocker Spaniel relief, Humans Left Wristwatch, and Recep Tayyip Erdogan hear about this!
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... drones are too small for big jobs like this; :lol
I'm pretty sure that's what the Nazis said...
Our modern enemy is clothed as civilians and hides among them. Collateral casualties in large numbers may be necessary to kill all the jihadists.
The bad guys don't follow any rules and neither should we. The more terrible you make war, the sooner it will be over.
Reconnaissance: Absolutely
Air to Ground Attack: Neutral on this point
Air to Air Combat: Never
Intentionally targeting and executing civilians is not war, just plain murder. The Allies were guilty of this during WWII, but bombing cities to destroy factories and infrastructure is hardly equivalent to concentration camp genocide.
Our modern enemy is clothed as civilians and hides among them. Collateral casualties in large numbers may be necessary to kill all the jihadists. Tippy-toeing around has never worked. It only sometimes shuts them up for a while. The enemy holds no regard for their own populace, much less ours and gets their jollies killing innocents. They are playing for keeps and the only way they will back down is by getting crushed on an unprecedented scale. I don't mean break out the nukes, but unload everything else at them until they beg for mercy. There is no diplomatic solution, so long as political correctness and the court of world opinion continues to appease them - even to the extent of letting them force their views and rules in our countries.
Why? Does it strike you as unsporting that we dont put your neighbors kid at risk of being blown to pieces? Maybe captured, tortured, and beheaded?
I for one dont care how we kill the enemy as long as they end up dead. There's nothing more pathetic then when we give a bunch of civilians a vote in the rules of engagement in a war they, or their kids, aren't fighting.
Ive talked to these troops coming back from I-crap and I-crapistan. They are just disgusted with these ROE's the couch warriors are forcing upon them.
How terrible is war when you can zap your enemies while sitting comfortably thousands of miles away? Having such advanced technology seems to me to make war a lot easier and thus makes us much more prone to starting them.I dont agree cause we didnt start this but it doesnt seem like bad advice to keep in mind. We need the drones but we also need a conscious.
Indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas is now not only unnecessary but also unconscionable. Drones give you the option of surgical strikes of leadership, and at the least makes them keep their heads down. Lusche is right that intentionally targeting civilians will only make more Jihadist's, tho in the end I dont think it matters much cause they have no shortage of volunteers and supporters. So its as inhumane as it ever was but luckily also not needed with modern tech. We can deliver bombs within meters now, even smaller ords like Hellfires or 250 lb with smart kits.
I sympathize with the humanists but we do have to win this thing.
I dont agree cause we didnt start this but it doesnt seem like bad advice to keep in mind. We need the drones but we also need a conscious.
Many people in the zones that these Drones are operating, are fast seeing America as the Terrorists. People living in fear that they might be a target because they were in the wrong area, is a good way to grow hate.These people were not waving red white and blue before. They hate America anyway, bombing them just intensifies what already exists.
The US (CIA) counts All Males, that are military aged as militants, if they are around the target, unless they have clear evidence to counter this (guilty until proven innocent and sorry about the death in the family). So a family, who by no fault of their own, could have their father & brothers killed in a strike and they would be labeled as terrorists. Nice way to lower that Civilian death toll.That is interesting. The UN on the other hand counts anyone who is not in uniform + holding a weapon + in active fighting, as a civilian. So a militant that got out of his hole to buy cigarettes and got whacked is counted as a civilian.
We don't need larger Drones we need smaller ones. Imagine a swarm of insect size killers going through the Jihadist camps and the Shock and Awe that would cause. :OGood idea! we can paint them with black and orange stripes, attach a needle with a small sack of poison to their butts and release them among the Jihadists!
http://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-bug-sized-drones-are-scary-2013-2 (http://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-bug-sized-drones-are-scary-2013-2)
(http://hommage-general-patton.org/images/patton1.jpg)
"Wonder weapons"? By God, I don't see the wonder in them. Killing without heroics?
Nothing is glorified? Nothing is reaffirmed? No heroes, no cowards, no troops, no generals.
Only those who are left alive, and those who are left... dead. I'm glad I won't live to see it.
I doubt his troops shared his love for "heroic" slaughter. Especially since it was them getting slaughtered. Tens of millions dieing and Patton's main worry was how history would remember him.
Generals love war. Its their chance to shine and get promoted. The average grunt hates it since its their chance to get their guts blown out.
I doubt his troops shared his love for "heroic" slaughter. Especially since it was them getting slaughtered. Tens of millions dieing and Patton's main worry was how history would remember him.
Generals love war. Its their chance to shine and get promoted. The average grunt hates it since its their chance to get their guts blown out.
You should read up more. His entire doctrine was to stay aggressive. An enemy on the run is less able to fight back
This "philosophy" is why I favor drones. They take the fight to the enemy, most of all their leadership targets. And they do so without putting our sons and daughters at risk. I'm a father of a troop and I couldnt give a rat's rear end if the world thinks they are inhumane.
My only regret is Im to old to notch some terrorist scalps my ownself.
Police said they arrested a University of Texas student after he flew a drone over Darrell K. Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium during the Longhorns game Saturday night.
Police said they began investigating after they noticed the drone during the second half of the game against the University of North Texas.
Officials found the student and arrested him shortly after.
Intentionally targeting and executing civilians is not war, just plain murder. The Allies were guilty of this during WWII...
We were of the opinion that a rapid repetition of this type of attack upon another six German towns would inevitably cripple the will to sustain armament manufacture and war production. It was I who first verbally reported to the Fuehrer at that time that a continuation of these attacks might bring about a rapid end to the war."
I have. I have also read how he looked at a battlefield and said, "I love it" ; "I do love it so".
With new drones rolling out it seems by the week for new and more complex tasks and purposes, it's been a common topic around 'hese parts talking about drones replacing pilots.
I figured we could all discuss our stances on them...
Here's my 2¢
Reconnaissance: Absolutely
Air to Ground Attack: Neutral on this point
Air to Air Combat: Never
Intentionally targeting and executing civilians is not war, just plain murder. The Allies were guilty of this during WWII, but bombing cities to destroy factories and infrastructure is hardly equivalent to concentration camp genocide.
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The germans were all guilty and deserved what they got from the allies :old:
Even the 6 year olds?
There are forces beyond our control, we are swept in the tides of history. Don't pretend that fairness or justice has anything to do with being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
When it came to what they did to Germany and the Germans, the Allies were guilty of nothing in WWII.
Albert Speer on the "terror" bombing of Hamburg:
Hamburg was bombed most heavily in July-August of 1943. We didn't go after another six towns rapidly. If you read Churchill's memoirs, many of his contemporaries lost their stomach for it after seeing what Operation Gomorrah did. Meanwhile, the Holocaust raged on for nearly another two years.
When you have a conflict you clearly need to win, you win it, and you wait until the end to feel bad about it.
Collateral casualties in large numbers may be necessary to kill all the jihadists.
Yes.
What does WW2 Germany and 6yo's have to do with drones?
your supposed to say "especially the 6 year olds"
UAV over fly's a target city somewhere on the Arabian peninsula after dark. It offloads tiny drones that cannot fly thousands of miles but, can be controlled from thousands of miles away to quietly land on roof tops or hide wherever the remote operator can see from it's onboard camera. The UAV hangs out at 50,000ft indefinitely acting as a control relay. Each tiny drone has super long life tiny batteries, cameras, and a nasty payload. Shifts of operators sit and watch the comings and goings in the city until individuals are identified. Then the tiny drone is flown up behind the target's head and detonated. Cheaper than a Hellfire.One reason one can not buy the 25 mile hack you put on your transmitter anymore .
In the US, amazon would rather deliver your books to you with them. The police would like to look in your backyard and windows with them. PETA type groups have used them to harass hunters in the name of keeping an eye on them for hunting violations. Paparazzi have used them. Eventually someone will figure out how to torch property to pull off insurance scams. And copycats will run with it for other nefarious activities if not already.
There are bug sized flying toys that can be modified to land on you and act as a tracking beacon and\or audio bug. Most of us live lives where abuses of this technology will only be interesting 24\7 talking head stories we go tsk, tsk, tsk about. Then write posts like this one to mull over with our friends.
A drone visible outside a window would likely meet a load of #5 shot.That sounds like a fun sport :aok
your supposed to say "especially the 6 year olds"
UAV over fly's a target city somewhere on the Arabian peninsula after dark. It offloads tiny drones that cannot fly thousands of miles but, can be controlled from thousands of miles away to quietly land on roof tops or hide wherever the remote operator can see from it's onboard camera. The UAV hangs out at 50,000ft indefinitely acting as a control relay. Each tiny drone has super long life tiny batteries, cameras, and a nasty payload. Shifts of operators sit and watch the comings and goings in the city until individuals are identified. Then the tiny drone is flown up behind the target's head and detonated. Cheaper than a Hellfire.
In the US, amazon would rather deliver your books to you with them. The police would like to look in your backyard and windows with them. PETA type groups have used them to harass hunters in the name of keeping an eye on them for hunting violations. Paparazzi have used them. Eventually someone will figure out how to torch property to pull off insurance scams. And copycats will run with it for other nefarious activities if not already.
There are bug sized flying toys that can be modified to land on you and act as a tracking beacon and\or audio bug. Most of us live lives where abuses of this technology will only be interesting 24\7 talking head stories we go tsk, tsk, tsk about. Then write posts like this one to mull over with our friends.
Adolf Hitler was voted in and had the full support of the German people so they are responsible for the deaths of their own chidren not the Allies
The British tried everything to stay out of it and but the Germans were savages
What ever gets you through life chief.
Anyway...DRONE RACE Mini quadcopters race through an advanced course.
http://wimp.com/quadcoptersrace/ (http://Mini quadcopters race through an advanced course.
http://wimp.com/quadcoptersrace/)
Appropriate to the size of our country we have the smallest UAV... The Brits like it too.Can they arm that drone with a stapler gun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gQSkppYviw
Can they arm that drone with a stapler gun?
and what's with the silly feather on their beret? I suppose it hides the wifi antenna?
Can they arm that drone with a stapler gun?
and what's with the silly feather on their beret? I suppose it hides the wifi antenna?
Can they arm that drone with a stapler gun?
That would be way too heavy for a nano-drone like this. The drone itself only weighs 16 grams; that's like three or four sheets of paper... However it will fly for 20 minutes and give you real-time intel from its three cameras.I definitely see the potential in urban warfare to peak around corners, down alleys, into windows and over rooftops. But since we were discussing armed drones... maybe arm it with a poisoned needle and turn it into a bee-drone?
I definitely see the potential in urban warfare to peak around corners, down alleys, into windows and over rooftops.
But since we were discussing armed drones... maybe arm it with a poisoned needle and turn it into a bee-drone?
With new drones rolling out it seems by the week for new and more complex tasks and purposes, it's been a common topic around 'hese parts talking about drones replacing pilots.
I figured we could all discuss our stances on them...
Here's my 2¢
Reconnaissance: Absolutely
Air to Ground Attack: Neutral on this point
Air to Air Combat: Never
... maybe arm it with a poisoned needle and turn it into a bee-drone?
I'm looking at several quadcopters in the $80 - $120 range. They all have cameras, some send video to a smartphone.
My Dad wants one from Santa.
Any suggestions based on experience with the entry level drones?
Thanks, ~S~ Buck
Here's a couple of Instagram posts I did for our Guesthouse'saccount, done with a Phantom 4.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BN4-qg6BWk5/?taken-by=edgehillmanor
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNYsQEh9a1/?taken-by=edgehillmanor
https://www.instagram.com/p/BL9rtaHBG8g/?taken-by=edgehillmanor
Meh...catch me if they can. :)
All 3 of those posts were viewed and "liked" by the Premier.
I am not exactly hard to find here.
I have not sold any videos and the use of my drone is considered recreational.
Here's a couple of Instagram posts I did for our Guesthouse'saccount, done with a Phantom 4.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BN4-qg6BWk5/?taken-by=edgehillmanor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BN4-qg6BWk5/?taken-by=edgehillmanor)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNYsQEh9a1/?taken-by=edgehillmanor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNYsQEh9a1/?taken-by=edgehillmanor)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BL9rtaHBG8g/?taken-by=edgehillmanor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BL9rtaHBG8g/?taken-by=edgehillmanor)
Not recreational if you shoot footage for sales or ads. Even if you are doing it for yourself.
None of the footage is of our guest house. What am I advertising? Bermuda maybe. I don't think ANYONE here would prosecute me for that.
:)