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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: hblair on January 31, 2002, 05:48:04 PM
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This (http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/hblair/setup.htm) is what we have so far. We believe these to be pretty close to what will work. If you have questions post them here. We'll do our best to explain our thinking.
:)
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I'd swap the 1 perk for the 190A5 and A8, the A5 is a much more capable plane in my opinion. I'd also think about perking the G6 cheaply, but I didn't really go over the Allied side to closely so I don't know if the comparable rides over there are free.
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So we can get any allied plane at any allied base Hblair?
Another way to help ballance the bombers would be to make the B-17s and lanc available at only certain bases.
eskimo
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Good stuff. You've guys have done a great job so far, I'll give ya the benefit of the doubt.;)
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This is probrably more work then its worth but is there any thought as to aligning historical aircraft against each by for example
ijaaf/n facing allied pac planes say like in the sw corner
eastfront aircraft north
and west front / med center
or something like so?
Its probrably more of a hassle on you cms then necessary but any thoughts along these lines?
and
how about 4 eng buffs available at large bases 2 eng buffs at med fields and fighter/attack aircraft at small fields (to include mossie, il2 , tbm). This may make an attack strategy more interesting.
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also p38, dhog and spitix should be unperked imho.
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GREAT JOB GUYS!
I am really looking forward to it.
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Originally posted by Wotan
also p38, dhog and spitix should be unperked imho.
We perk planes for several different reasons.
The P38 and Dhog can kill a hangar in a single pass, their jabo ability is much stronger than any of the axis, hence the perks.
The spit 9 has more kills in the MA than any other fighter this tour.
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The spit 9 has more kills in the MA than any other fighter this tour.
since they perked the chog it always does :)
but I am afraid of the spit v :eek:
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Hblair, the F6F has better jabo capabilities as the F4U-D (beats it by carrying 2 more rockets hehe). Should have the same perk cost as the hog-D.
I would also let each side have its own vehicles. With the M3 and LVT's being the only ones the 2 sides share.
The Allies have the faster moving M8, the M16 and the M3. Axis would have the M3, Flakpanzer and the PanzerIV. Allies have better ground attack planes so that should balance that out as far as the ground units is concerned. Besides, Shermans really couldnt go head to head with german tanks, they would generally call in air support to take them out or overwhelm them with sheer numbers.
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I cannot believe my eyes!
The pony... MY pony, you know; the one with the dingle balls saddle blanket... is THREE gawdamned points? WTF!
wait.. wait... there's hope... i see they didn't perk the mossie. ahhhh. kewl. i can HO a jet with the mossie, buy a tempest and annoy the hell outta dora's all night.
henh. just think of it.. a tempest fer 7 points..
Heaven.
:cool:
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Originally posted by Tac
Hblair, the F6F has better jabo capabilities as the F4U-D (beats it by carrying 2 more rockets hehe). Should have the same perk cost as the hog-D.
I would also let each side have its own vehicles. With the M3 and LVT's being the only ones the 2 sides share.
The Allies have the faster moving M8, the M16 and the M3. Axis would have the M3, Flakpanzer and the PanzerIV. Allies have better ground attack planes so that should balance that out as far as the ground units is concerned. Besides, Shermans really couldnt go head to head with german tanks, they would generally call in air support to take them out or overwhelm them with sheer numbers.
We felt the need to leave some allied fighters unperked, but many of the US fighters are heavy hitting jabo's. We left the F6F unperked, justifying this by limiting it to carrier duty.
Your ground war idea is exactly what I had to start with. I decided to give the allies the panzer to even it up. Anyone have any problems with having the correct vehicles on each side?(except troop carrying ones of course)
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Are the perk points we have now going to be reset or do we keep the ones we have now?
I like the set up
edited for spelling (sic)
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They'll be reset.
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Originally posted by hblair
We felt the need to leave some allied fighters unperked, but many of the US fighters are heavy hitting jabo's. We left the F6F unperked, justifying this by limiting it to carrier duty.
Your ground war idea is exactly what I had to start with. I decided to give the allies the panzer to even it up. Anyone have any problems with having the correct vehicles on each side?(except troop carrying ones of course)
Unperk the 38 then, it cant run like the F6F and its not carrier capable. Since the F4U-1 and D and -4 would be carrier enabled, and there's a spitfire also avaliable from carrier... well, u figure it out :)
I think that having better ground vehicles is better for the axis. Almost every allied AC can carry enough ord to blast a column of panzers, but an axis AC can barely take out 1 or 2 (jabo of course). And also remember that the axis has really crappy bombers with no turbolaser.. so a ju88 or its TBM wont be of much use unless they come with plenty of escort.
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I was looking over the map and realised that the Allies are going to start with alot of higher alt bases. Perhaps the Axis should start up there. Seeing as they're screwed for Jabo and heavy bombers. Just a thought.
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Mitsubishi G4M "Betty" was not a carrier based bomber. It was a land based, twin engined medium bomber.
The Japanese equivalent would be the B6N Tenzan "Jill".
Britian is misspelled "Brittian".
The N1K2's ENY is out of whack with the other perk units.
The Ki61's, P-47D-11's, Hurricane MkIId's and Fw190F-8's ENY scores are, like in the MA, completely out of whack with their capabilities.
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Looks awesome. Time to move back into the CT. Just one question:
Will the CT score page be reset/a new tour created for this new setup?
Please oh please say yes.
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I agree no "perk plane" should have a higher eny value then the lowest none perk plane eny value.
Tweak the eny values abit please :)
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I would agree with Tac that the ground vehicles should be kept on their historical sides as much as possible. Allies don't need no stinkin' panzer. :D
ENY values for perked planes should be tweaked a bit i think( i would be inclined to agree with Wotan), too, and also P47D11 ENY 18??? Most other planes that are not perked have atleast 22. Your saying that the D11 is about the easiest plane to get kills in...... I'd have to disagree with that. IMO D11 should be 25 eny value.
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Originally posted by hblair
This (http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/hblair/setup.htm) is what we have so far. :)
You've done a lot of work on this; thanks very much. I don't think you'll ever satisfy everyone on the perk values, but who cares?
Gonna be a lot of jets, though.
- oldman
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Thanks for the feedback fellas.
No objections were raised so I dropped the panzer from the Allies substitute list with the intentions of helping the axis in the defense area.
The sides have been swapped, giving the Axis an easier to defend homeland.
I think Britain is spelled "britain" isn't it karnak. Somebody let me know if its wrong. Peggy is changed to Jill.
I'll look over the values this evening.
Keep the feedback coming.
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sounds good
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Looks like a fun setup. 308 will be holding squad night there this week (3pm EST Sunday).
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Type ENY value OBJ value Cost
A6M5b* Fighter/Attack 25 20 0
Ki-61-I-KAIc Fighter/Attack 18 20 0
N1K2-J Fighter/Attack 17 20 3
Can't you give Ki61 much more ENY Value rating?
Do you think it is as easy as by pony or dora?
I suggest it should be 25 or more.
and...
Late War in Pacific , IJN operated A6Ms on land base mainly.
It looks so strange for me that A6M is limited to carrier duty.
anyway..
Thank you very much for ur great work.
:)