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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: 1776 on July 29, 2001, 09:18:00 AM
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Am I the only Intel fan out here?? Anyone else still going to upgrade with Intel?
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I use Intel, but I will not go the P4 route due to the limited life of the current design.
Once Intel settles on another bus design that will have better shelf life, I will then look into them again.
P3's are getting cheaper and the the chipset support is still better than the AMD processors have (sigh).
I know many will jump in here and claim to have no problems with the AMD support chips, but I consider not being able to reliably run AGP 4X speeds a problem.
I also have a rather unique environment. All our systems have to be able to be servers in a heartbeat. For this, Intel gets the nod, as UNIX just works better and more reliably with Intel support chips.
This does not mean I am a fan of Intel. Quite the oppposite, I hope one day AMD will get a 100% compatible suport chip solution so I can move away from Intel. Until then, I am stuck.
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The P-4/2G comes out next month.
<drool>
AKDejaVu
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BTW, I currently have a Dual Xeon/400MhZ system, a P3-600EB system and a P3-1GhZ system operating in my house... with a P3-1GhZ chip waiting for a new home.
I can't wait to see if I can fenagle an Itanium processor sometime later this year :D
AKDejaVu
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Hmmm. Clock rates do not mean much to me anymore Deja.
What's the best/worst case number of t-states between instruction fetch and execution as compared to the current P4, or P3's?
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
BTW, I currently have a Dual Xeon/400MhZ system, a P3-600EB system and a P3-1GhZ system operating in my house... with a P3-1GhZ chip waiting for a new home.
I can't wait to see if I can fenagle an Itanium processor sometime later this year :D
AKDejaVu
got any extra pIII 1ghz SLOT1's laying around???
i could use one! $$$$
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What's the best/worst case number of t-states between instruction fetch and execution as compared to the current P4, or P3's?
Dunno, and I think you are a complete geek for even asking.
Now.. tell me you don't want an Itanium Skuzzy... come on... you know you do.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by mason22:
got any extra pIII 1ghz SLOT1's laying around???
i could use one! $$$$
Get a good slocket adapter and get yourself an FCPGA chip. That way you're not left with that slot1 garbage when/if you decide to upgrade your motherboard!
SOB
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anybody got any PIII 1ghz FCPGA, with adapter laying around? :D
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AKDejaVu ......
The P-4/2G comes out next month. Is this the new P4 ?
:D
sprint
*MOL*
You can't please everyone. But it is possible to make 'em all mad at the same time.
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Dunno, and I think you are a complete geek for even asking.
Now.. tell me you don't want an Itanium Skuzzy... come on... you know you do.
AKDejaVu
Why yes,..I am a geek. Thought everyone knew that :p.
Dunno about itanium. Have not checked up on it. I usually do not get excited about new processors, until I get some t-state info, which is a better performance indicator than clock rates.
Got the assembly book for the itanium? It should have the t-state info in it.
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Got the assembly book for the itanium? It should have the t-state info in it.
Nope.. and you are (once again) a geek for even asking.
From what I've heard, the Itanium is something you may want to check into. Of course, it would only be for the drool factor since I don't think they are ever going to be reasonably priced. Then again.. where there is a will there is a way ;)
AKDejaVu
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hmmm... my dad always said " Where there's a will, there's relatives."
kbman
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Hey deja,..I work hard at being a geek,...you have any idea the amount of work, effort, coordination, and will power it takes to keep 200 pencils and pens in a pocket protector?
Not to mention, the permanent bubble gum attached to my shoes, and how difficult it is to really not wher matching socks, then there is the shirtail issue.
My wife finally cut all my shirt talks off so they would not half hang in and out of my pants. :)
Ya know what?..... I sound a lot like an Intel employee. :)
[ 08-04-2001: Message edited by: Skuzzy ]
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From what I've heard the new P4s are coming out the same day as windows XP is supposed to be officially released. AMD is also supposed to be releasing desktop Palominos (Athlon 4) around 1.5+ GHz then too.
Skuzzy, have you looked at Nvidia's nForce yet? All of AMDs chipset nightmares with Taiwaneese manufacturers may be over...
Frankly, I'd rather have a P3 Tualatin than a P4 (Willamette type) right now.
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I have looked at the briefs they have on the WEB site for the NForce, but have not gotten any firm docs on the chipset yet.
I am really curious if they have a compatible mode to run in or if they went with a new interface design and require special drivers.
I have nore read any recent news about it, so my questions actually may already be answered.
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The nForce does have a couple performance boosting features in it that are pretty exciting. First is the Dual Channel DDR ram setup (it does not require pairs or same size ram chips like the early pentiums). The second is a prefetch ability of the chipset northbridge. (Almost like a L3 cache.)
As for drivers, one of the features Nvidia is touting is a "unified driver", i.e. only 1 driver for everything. (This is better than via's 4.)
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Oh Skuzzy, as for the AGP 4x thing. That was a problem with the AMD 750 and Via kt133 chipsets. (With some tweaking it can be made to work reliably on the via kt133 and kt133a.)
On the newer DDR ram chipsets there are no issues with AGP 4x anymore that I've heard of. (The AMD 760 chipset is incredibly stable.)