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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Chalenge on July 26, 2010, 01:05:25 AM
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India develops a computer that will sell for $35 and eventually the cost will drop to $10.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/world/india-unveils-prototype-of-35-computer-paving-way-for-solar-powered-websurfing-in-villages-99091259.html
Edit (added) Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G62EiyUyj8A
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India develops a computer that will sell for $35 and eventually the cost will drop to $10.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/world/india-unveils-prototype-of-35-computer-paving-way-for-solar-powered-websurfing-in-villages-99091259.html
Edit (added) Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G62EiyUyj8A
Not like it's the first time India claims to do something that's later shunned about and forgotten as completely idiotic.
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Well lets not forget the $70 iPads are supposed to be here around Christmas time. :D
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Well lets not forget the $70 iPads are supposed to be here around Christmas time. :D
To sell a touchscreen computer for 10 bucks they'd have to build it from cow dung and use an imaginary display in true India(tm) fashion. Then they'll call it mind exercise for the students, they can astrally project the imaginary use of the cow-dung object.
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they'll probably manage it too.
then again you get what you pay for:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Tata_Nano_yellow.jpg/250px-Tata_Nano_yellow.jpg)
$2200 (about what my laptop cost...)
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Yeah right . I will spend my 10 buck's on gas . I know BP need's it ..
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$35??
It'll have the build quality of a dell with all the common sense of a mac
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Not like it's the first time India claims to do something that's later shunned about and forgotten as completely idiotic.
People tend to forget that this laptops aren't meant for the general consumer like you and me but rather for students in improvished countries that wouldn't be able to afford a computer otherwise.
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Operating system is some version of Linux and it uses nothing but a memory card for a hard drive. For $35 that can't be much of a memory card, unless they are getting some serious discounts.
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People tend to forget that this laptops aren't meant for the general consumer like you and me but rather for students in improvished countries that wouldn't be able to afford a computer otherwise.
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People tend to forget that this laptops aren't meant for the general consumer like you and me but rather for students in improvished countries that wouldn't be able to afford a computer otherwise.
I know where there are about 32 million "improvished" people that arent even students and that would love to have one of these IF they work.
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I don't know if you guys saw it but there was a good 60 Minutes piece on Nicholas Negroponte and his One Laptop per Child program about a year or so ago. A lot of the cost is susidized by the parts manufacturers and he was having trouble getting enough parts because Intel was actually competing with him directly for the impoverished country's education contracts. In the end I think they worked something out but those machines, while not particularily powerful, are nearly indestructable because they're exposed to shock, dust, water, etc., etc..
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Yeah right . I will spend my 10 buck's on gas . I know BP need's it ..
Do you mind I have just bought BP for £34.67p and am in the process of looking for nee deals :old:
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Even if it had a memory card instead of a hard drive. If ran simple programs for children for the price it would be terrific.
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Most tech sites put this thing quite correctly to the 'I believe it when I see it' category.
Take anything coming from India with a grain of salt.
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btw what does this have to do with jobs? :headscratch:
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jobs main idea was for everychild (or was it classroom) to have a computer. That was back in 82 when I was in highschool. As you can see it is still not done.
semp
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jobs main idea was for everychild (or was it classroom) to have a computer. That was back in 82 when I was in highschool. As you can see it is still not done.
semp
I think the Steve Jobs reference is more due to the fact that this is basically an iPad clone and someone was able to make and sell one for lot less than what Apple makes and sells one for. Unfortunately, the OP didn't take into account that this computer is not intended nor was it designed to be intended for the mass consumer market. It is basically a specialized niche product with one consumer target in mind, unlike the iPad.
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No what I am looking at is the fact that it is the first iPad like device (small and portable) that is also affordable. There will be more in the next six months and while Apple will probably be the better of them all I expect by Christmas there will be some for under $100. The Jobs comment was a poke at the ridiculous price they have on the iPad and the fact that Jobs like to think of the iPads already sold as still being his property.
I guess the Library of Congress set him straight on that though. :aok
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aww ok. cant see anyone else bothering with releasing a tablet though, after all whats the point if they are such pointless, fundamentally flawed devices with no market waiting to buy them? like everyone said when the iPad was released ...
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Ha! Everyone that owns an iPad is now saying they dont know how they got along without one! Take the Apple logo off and the price will come down AND probably have greater functionality. For now the only competition the iPad has is from book readers like Nook and Kindle etc. All it would take is someone like Gates to come along with a better one at a more reasonable price. Like the PC war with MAC Gates proved Jobs approach was better served to a smaller market share while his approach took the lions share. Carry that thinking forward and I believe you will see the market has only just been scratched.
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Ha! Everyone that owns an iPad is now saying they dont know how they got along without one! Take the Apple logo off and the price will come down AND probably have greater functionality. For now the only competition the iPad has is from book readers like Nook and Kindle etc. All it would take is someone like Gates to come along with a better one at a more reasonable price. Like the PC war with MAC Gates proved Jobs approach was better served to a smaller market share while his approach took the lions share. Carry that thinking forward and I believe you will see the market has only just been scratched.
Already has.. $132 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.39448~r.34774240
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lol the wait and see what Apple does then produce a tattier, cheaper version strategy doesnt seem to be working that well for MS. examples: Vista, Courier tablet, Zune music player (and store), Kin phone ...
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I think in the case of this iPad device that it wont be Microsoft anyway. Zune marketplace is far superior to the iTunes trap.
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Microsoft is fighting an uphill battle. I think that it will have hard times ahead.
Apple does everything just better - the only downside is being stuck with Apple hardware and cost.
As for tablets, MS is no competitor. Google with its Android is growing at an alarming rate. I'm afraid Google will be the next microsoft and we can only 'guess' what will happen to its 'embassador of free' status once all competition is killed out.
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Apple does everything just better - the only downside is being stuck with Apple hardware and cost.
Im sorry this has to be the quote (and laugh) of the year. :D
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agree chalenge, apple does do stuff just ... better, but anyone who knows what TCO stands for knows the "apple is expensive" stuff is a myth :D
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Neither one of them do poop for tech support. MS charges you for every second of contact and Apple just makes you buy new. Neither one ever accepts blame its always the consumer and anything you buy from either one is still 'theirs' and not yours.
Better? No just different. If Apple was just 'better' all the way around then they would have the MS share of the market. So even if MS is the lesser path of quality (I wouldnt argue that) they still own the market (for now).
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the market says OSX is "better" than MS OSes. Apple have maintained a market share despite their OS costing up to 4x what MS's Oses do, and being tied to Apple hardware. Users are prepared to pay a significant premium to use OSX over MS OS. listen up, the market has spoken :aok
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PART of the market doesnt make the market. Apple is only 8% of the market.
Remember the '1984' ad for Mac? Turned out its Jobs that plays the part of 'Big Brother.'
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PART of the market doesnt make the market. Apple is only 8% of the market.
Remember the '1984' ad for Mac? Turned out its Jobs that plays the part of 'Big Brother.'
Apple just outgrew Microsoft. Despite having only 8% in desktop market it's haulin. After spending some time with osx it becomes painfully evident how crude windows is in many ways. One dumbfounding example: bluetooth support. MS knowingly crippled it for some reason so nobody can connect a bluetooth hifi device to windows without disabling MS native and installing third party software.
I used to be strongly pro MS and anti Apple / Linux. Now after having spent some time with them I can see that windows is really a poor compromise that lives only through it's dominant spread.
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Apple outgrew MS? Are you talking wishfully or figuratively? Apple is such an ant compared to MS its almost not even in the game anymore! The only reason Apple is even in the news from time to time is because of the parade they throw. Their devices are not even worth the price or fanfare.
So your a fanbois huh? :D
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Apple outgrew MS? Are you talking wishfully or figuratively? Apple is such an ant compared to MS its almost not even in the game anymore! The only reason Apple is even in the news from time to time is because of the parade they throw. Their devices are not even worth the price or fanfare.
So your a fanbois huh? :D
I don't know which rock you live under http://www.itp.net/580492-apple-becomes-biggest-tech-company-in-the-world
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Ha! Im sure the dollar figure will hold for a long while to come. Rush out and buy Apple stock now ok? :D
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Ha! Im sure the dollar figure will hold for a long while to come. Rush out and buy Apple stock now ok? :D
Your defensive attitude is telling :)
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Well... honestly I didnt realize Apple was worth all that. Both of them have way too much stinking green. In taking a closer look I dont even see why they are competitors since MS is primarily a software company and Apple is primarily hardware (or thats what it looks like).
I think MS is going to grow more this fall and that may tip the scale back. I cant wait to see if that bears out being true. :D
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I'd figure they're just trying to get some piece of this pie. Not sure why.
http://www.laptop.org/
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Im not sure thats the case but I am interested in their inquiries on 'gorilla glass' since they already seem to have a something adequate for WP7. Maybe they are pushing for another go at Surface?
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The ONLY reason apple is even still in business is because of the iPod. That one little device is what saved the company. Now I'm not saying the iPod isn't a cool device.. it is, however I would never buy one. Why? Simple.. because I DON'T NEED ONE. Apple has become very good at taking advantage of fanbois zombies... you know.. the "gotta get it" kind of crowd. The kind who doesn't even consider the consequences... all they want is the newest and greatest. These people somehow got addicted to the iPod.. then HAD to get the iPod touch, then the iPhone.. then the iPad.. and so on.
I'm not saying there aren't exceptions to this rule, but the vast majority of people who would purchase a $200 iPod over a $35 mp3 player don't use their brains. Just look at iTunes! This software makes Norton look like chlidsplay compared to what iTunes does to you O/S (I'm sure Skuzzy can relate). I never understood why software used to transfer music to a music player had to use so many resources... oh wait! Yeah I forgot.. it has to check the music to make sure it is legal.. and then convince you to purchase more and then check for DRM updates and also "album cover" artwork.. and I'm sure it has some conversion software built in (so you can BUY that mp3 you already have downloaded so it can convert it to a format the the iPod can use)...
And the whole joke of this whole deal is that with an el-cheapo mp3 player, you can simply plug it in to your computer, drag and drop the music (and other files) to it, unplug it and you're good to go! NO EXTRA SOFTWARE REQUIRED!!
Now look at the whole iPhone and iPad deal... most software for portable devices is flash based. Whoa.. Apple doesn't support flash, I wonder why this is? Oh yeah, so you have to PURCHASE compatible "applications" for the iPhone/iPad/whatever! More money in their pockets... My Samsung version of the iPhone does everything I need it to, and if I want games there are plenty of sites I can visit to download games (and other apps) for free. Oh yes, some are available for purchase as well - and for the most part the ones you buy are much better quality and I *DO* buy the few apps that I actually use regularly, but for the most part, especially with games on these things... once you play it once or twice you forget about it anyway.
Personally, I believe anyone that purchases an iAnything is a fanbois, as literally ALL of these devices are available for a fraction of the cost and a fraction of the 'big-brother' factor elsewhere.
Now, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against a company wanting to make money. There's something to be said about a good product and I *do* believe that these iDevices have excellent hardware quality, but boy do you pay for it (and I'm not necessarily talking about money).
Now, Challenge mentions that Apple only has a fraction of the market share compared to Microsoft, and I believe his statement to be true. You cannot compare MS and Apple based purely on Sales $$$ because they are so different. Apple sells Hardware, O/S Software, Cell phones, and consumer devices (iThings), whereas Microsoft ONLY sells Software, Xboxes, and a FRACTION of consumer devices (Zune fiasco). To compare the two companies in a way that we're talking about here, you'd basically have to limit the comparison to percentage of O/S sales.
Base on THIS comparison, Apple is only a tiny fraction of what Microsoft is.
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complete rubbish. iMacs, OSX and Job's return as CEO saved Apple as a company and reversed their OS market share decline. iPods and iPhones just made them a lot more profitable. since you got the first sentence so completely, historically wrong I'm going to assume the rest of your "analysis" is tosh too.
its to be expected though, eveyone is an "expert" when it comes to apple. never run a large comany? never traded stock? cant even be bothered to look up share price history and other key financial data? youre an APPLE Inc expert. never used OSX or any other *nix flavour? only ever used windoze? youre an OS and UI expert. :rolleyes:
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Not sure how an OS that they (basically) gave away could save the company but if you say so!
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I forgot to add the other major reason - investment and comittment to Office X development from ... microsoft :)
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Just look at iTunes! This software makes Norton look like chlidsplay compared to what iTunes does to you O/S (I'm sure Skuzzy can relate). I never understood why software used to transfer music to a music player had to use so many resources...
You're making the mistake of using windows obviously, osx has no such problem with iTunes. :)
And what goes for market share, mobile devices are the highest growing market segment at the moment and microsoft totally dropped the ball on that one. They canceled their production while android / iphone is growing at a fast rate and eating away Symbian share.
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Apparently you missed the memo about Windows Phone 7 (not that I think it will be the end all item).
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Apparently you missed the memo about Windows Phone 7 (not that I think it will be the end all item).
Yes they make memos while droid/iphoneos makes millions of sales. :D
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Dont forget about the MS successes against Lotus 1-2-3 Netscape WordPerfect Novell and so on. I dont believe this is going to be a Kin repeat at all. While I think Jobs could buy the Pet Rock copyright and sell millions as iRock I wont count MS out for a few decades at least.
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Lotus 1-2-3 on dos has to be in my top 10 alltime apps :aok