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Title: No one is going to like this
Post by: Delirium on July 16, 2008, 01:58:21 AM
My idea is 2 fold;

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.

Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: Pannono on July 16, 2008, 02:01:10 AM
Deli, youre from CT?
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: Delirium on July 16, 2008, 03:57:08 AM
Yes, but what does this have to do with this thread?
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: Pannono on July 16, 2008, 04:00:12 AM
So am I! What part? I am from Wolcott.
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: SD67 on July 16, 2008, 04:23:53 AM
My idea is 2 fold;

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.

This does nothing to prevent people from flying high ENY planes into unbalanced areas though. If there was some sort of barrier that turns your La7 into a D3A when you passed it, then yes.

Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Not a bad Idea, this would be OK I fly with auto take off disabled anyway.

Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.

Nice idea but unrealistic. People who run NOE missions already have enough troubles keeping their dweebs below 500ft.

Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: BnZ on July 16, 2008, 08:19:41 AM
I disagree delerium.

Lower radar coverage to the frickin' soil!!!

*sigh* Yes, I know radar can't cover to the soil. But in r/l, you'd have forces on the GROUND who would spot incoming, or at least guys out herding the sheep who could report in. NOE is at least 10 times more likely to take a base than any more realistic attack with reasonable numbers, and that sucks.
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: SD67 on July 16, 2008, 08:38:02 AM
NOE missions get busted all the time. They fly past CV's, they fly past GV's, they fly past High Altitude BUFFS, the n00bs bust DAR, all activity to a base suddenly stops for 15 minutes while the mission is posted, advertised and filled.
If you need lower radar to spot them you're doing something wrong.
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: NEARY on July 16, 2008, 07:08:32 PM
people who are just starting can't get off the ground without auto takeoff  :uhoh

and that would make people give up aces high and prevent htc from getting more funds which could ultimitly prevent htc from adding more featues :cry
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: Lusche on July 16, 2008, 07:12:59 PM

*sigh* Yes, I know radar can't cover to the soil. But in r/l, you'd have forces on the GROUND who would spot incoming, or at least guys out herding the sheep who could report in.

We do have that too. Or why do you think bases start to flash when a noe getting close?
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: trigger2 on July 16, 2008, 10:59:24 PM
I disagree delerium.

Lower radar coverage to the frickin' soil!!!

*sigh* Yes, I know radar can't cover to the soil. But in r/l, you'd have forces on the GROUND who would spot incoming, or at least guys out herding the sheep who could report in. NOE is at least 10 times more likely to take a base than any more realistic attack with reasonable numbers, and that sucks.

The problem with this though is simple...
The farmer would have to find a GERMAN patrol.
Which would then have to scramble to a HQ to find a radio.
Where they'd have to radio in LAST KNOWN coordinates.
Where that would then be forwarded by 5-10 other squads/divisions leaving room for human error...
And by the time thats all done...
Some airfield in the middle of god knows where (prolly p40...) is gone...

I enjoy the idea of lowering the altitude... but I think it should be different...
Keep it like it is, but have a red dot in the corner of the zone if theres a plane or more above 100 or so feet making NOE even harder, as if keeping our dweebs low isn't enough trouble...
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: MajIssue on July 17, 2008, 10:02:09 AM
You're right "D"... I don't like your ideas... with all due respect. I'm pressed for time so I will save discussion for lunch.
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: LLogann on July 17, 2008, 10:27:58 AM
Yeah, what the Snail said!
We do have that too. Or why do you think bases start to flash when a noe getting close?
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: APDrone on July 17, 2008, 10:48:55 AM

Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.

So.. instead of just a base flashing, you want the dots to show up as well?  And the presence of these dots is going to, somehow, encourage your country-mates to suddenly react differently than just the flashing icon? 

I've been on plenty of NOE raids and I've busted plenty of NOE raids.  I think the system is pretty well balanced as it is. 
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: SlapShot on July 17, 2008, 10:54:21 AM
My idea is 2 fold;

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.

Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.

Del ...

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.


Your explanation is somewhat confusing ... but I think that I know what your alluding too. I would think that the coad to do this would be quite complex, along with taxing the server keeping track of all of that ... and the ROI probably would not be worth it from a business standpoint.
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: Vudak on July 17, 2008, 12:30:07 PM
So am I! What part? I am from Wolcott.


Wolcott?

God.

Ever been to Illussions?  If so, you've probably seen me.

I'd be the guy in the corner slamming his head into the table repeatedly to try and get some amusement out of the evening.

(Two of my lady friends have been dragging me there for the past eight years...  They keep saying it'll be fun...  And I keep believing them...)
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: SlapShot on July 17, 2008, 04:02:26 PM
Wolcott?

God.

Ever been to Illussions?  If so, you've probably seen me.

I'd be the guy in the corner slamming his head into the table repeatedly to try and get some amusement out of the evening.

(Two of my lady friends have been dragging me there for the past eight years...  They keep saying it'll be fun...  And I keep believing them...)

Then you need to walk across the street ... to the "other" establishment ... :O
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: Rambo Fan on July 17, 2008, 04:29:30 PM
My idea is 2 fold;

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.

Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.
Title:No one is going to like this.

Pfft you got that right.  :lol
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: Rich46yo on July 17, 2008, 04:45:07 PM
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My idea is 2 fold;

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.

Sounds to complicated.

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Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Whats to work? Flying NOE isnt difficult. In fact flying isnt difficult except for noobs, who are the only ones dependant on auto-pilot until they gain skill. Most guys only use AP flying level if they have to do somthing in the house or go to the john. And is flying NOE on auto any different then flying on auto-climb?

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Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.

Its not a "win" button cause all kinds of things start popping when a mission approaches a base. All you have to do is pay attention. Many missions have new guys flying in them and they have enough difficulty flying low as it is. Theres a lot cheesier aspects to the game then NOE missions that already give 3 to 5 mins warning they are IB to a base. The game is balanced nicely as it is, "assuming fair gameplay is involved". Plenty of NOE missions get defeated by skilled teamwork by guys playing honestly.

Nothing wrong with posting wishes here but I respectfully disagree.
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: NoBaddy on July 17, 2008, 05:02:49 PM
If I understand what you are sayin' correctly, Deli....I think HT would tell you the programming effort isn't worth it for him.

I don't care about using auto pilot for flying NOE. But, I do like my auto take off.

The radar idea is a good one and I know something similar has been suggested to HT before. I think its the best of your suggestions.

I would like to add something to the radar system so that an "active field" (one where a friendly is up) has the field warning range of 12 miles. For an undefended field (one  without a friendly up) make it 18.
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: evenhaim on July 17, 2008, 05:49:42 PM
i like the auto take off idea and the radar sounds cool but you remember the last time we spotted an noe mission together lol 262 rape and pannon pms about being a spy ;)
Title: Re: No one is going to like this
Post by: uptown on July 17, 2008, 11:36:17 PM
I don't care..whatever yall want to do I'll adapt and overcome.........OOOHRAHH :rock