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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ink on September 30, 2011, 03:12:15 PM
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ok all you who love a good fight....
I bring you The DFC Dueling Ladder
this is for those who love good competition, want a good clean fight, want the drag out, knock down, adrenaline pumping, stick breaking, white knuckled, fight that keeps us coming back year after year...and also for the new guys to get a chance at fighting and learning from the vets.......
......any questions ask here and sign up here, sign ups will last one week or until 20 sign up, YES you can sign up at any time, you will just be placed at the bottom rung.
I will start a new challenge and results thread once the initial week is over or 20 are signed up.......
rules and a bit of info....
History
Ladders have been used in many sports and in different forms. In fencing salles of the past, it was a traditional element of the culture. Often they were used to determine who would represent the salle in competitions. Today this concept can work to provide healthy internal competition.
Benefits
dueling the same people over and over isn’t necessarily a good thing. Duelers need to Duel with a variety of people to learn ACM tactics and improve their skills.
A dueling ladder is a great motivational tool that fosters problem solving as a necessary outcome for success.The ladder becomes a motivational impetus to improve.
Participation
Participation in dueling ladders is purely optional. But, it is a lot of fun....
expectations from participants.....you are expected to conduct your self with Honor, integrity,and Honesty first and foremost, I Don't believe we need a huge book of rules, and I am not gonna play the rule game....if you conduct yourself with Honor and integrity there is no reason for excessive rules....
if you Harass/verbally abuse via PM or Vox any participants in the dueling Ladder you will be ejected from the ladder, with no warnings... proof of harassment must be shown, if you have been ejected from one ladder you may participate in the next one, if a second ejection occurs then the person will be banned permanently from all future Ladders.
any obvious out right breaking of the rules will be ejection from the ladder.
film all Duels...with out film there is no proof.
ok on with the rules......
Dueling Ladder Rules
1) Challenging.
a) Duelers may challenge any of the three Duelers above them on the Ladder.
b) Duelers may challenge up to three times per week. except one he previously challenged and lost too, he must win a duel before he can re-challenge the one he lost to.
c) Challenges occur in the DFC Dueling Challenge Thread..
d) All challengees must accept challenges provided they are available and not in the middle of a duel with a previous challenger.. otherwise a date and time shall be set for the duel agreed upon by both duelists
e) The dueler in the number one spot may challenge any of the Duelers below him/her to prevent *ADS.....in the case where the Top Dog loses a challenge he put forth, they will switch positions on the Ladder, this is the only time a switching of positions will take place.
f) When you challenge a member, they have the choice of the first round plane.
The Duel
1) fuel will be 25% same plane, same ammo load out, (other ladders in the future may be designed as a non same plane match ups....IE you take your best plane I take my best plane see who wins)
2) If someone loses a wing, tail, or engine, the round is over, Duels are to be held in the dueling arena with an agreed upon ALT by the contestants, but a 10K ALT is a good starting point, for this opens up the fight much more and allows for more options on the merge. remember the fight is most often won in the merge.
3) The Loser of the round has the choice of the next plane.
4) Both contestants must get a fresh plane before the next round.
5) Rounds must start Co Alt and Co E before the initial merge. This means no going above the agreed altitude before the initial merge in order to gain more E then your opponent,once you are in icon range, you may dive under your opponent or initiate a climb...IE start your maneuvering.
6) Head-Ons on the initial merge are looked down apon but are NOT against the rules...they go against what this ladder is all about...besides the fun factor, it is about killing your nme, with out allowing him to kill you.... A HO is just a toss of the coin...for the purposes of this ladder "HO" shots are not ACM and should be avoided...****
7) a front quarter shot is NOT a HO if you are able to get around and put guns on your opponent and destroy his cartoon pilot before he has guns on you...this is a very legit shot and one to be expected.
8) If you get more then 2.5K from your opponent while your plane’s nose is pointed away from him, you lose that round. If both contestants are nose away, that round is forfeit. This includes altitude.
Initial placement and working up the ladder
a) At the start of each Ladder “season”, all Duelers will be randomly drawn to determine their initial rung on the ladder. with the exception of the 1-3 rungs, these will not be givin to anyone, they must be fought for.
b) when a challenger wins a bout, they will take the rung of their challengee; and the challengee will move down one rung.
If a challengee wins, there is no change.
c) the top 3 "rungs" will not be givin out at the beginning of the season, each of the top three rungs must be fought for....#
for instance...say 25 people sign up there will be 28 "rungs" each pilot will be randomly placed in the bottom 25 rungs.
d) ladder rungs 20 and below will be best of 3, rungs 6-20 best out of five rounds, for rungs 1-5 the bout winner will be best of ten. all fights do not necessarily need to be finished in one day.
e) It is the responsibility of the Duelers to submit the bout information: who Dueled and the final winner, in the results thread.
# the coveted top three rungs and how to get there.....these are the rungs that are the hardest to get to....
the first duelist to win 3 matches in a row moves into the 3rd place rung
the first duelist to win 4 matches in a row moves into the 2nd place rung
the first duelist to win 5 matches in a row moves into the 1st place rung and will be Top Dog untill he is ousted by a challenger.(or loses a challenge he put forth)
this will allow anyone on the ladder a fair chance to get to the top rung
once the top three rungs are occupied....all duelist must work their way up the Ladder, in the typical fashion.
* Automatic Degradation System: All Ladder Duelers must Duel at least once per month in order to maintain their place. For every month they do not Duel, they will move down one place. Example: If the order of the Duelers is INK,Prono,Irishone,Zoney,Debrody.... and INK and Irishone do not duel in that month, the new order would be Prono, INk, Zoney,Irishone,Debrody
**** more on the "HO" shot......this Ladder is for those of us that enjoy a fight, for those of us who want to get better at ACM, to be able to fight those that you may not get a chance to in the MA's with out being hoarded.....so if we as a Dueling community feel someone is not here for the right reasons IE A good fight.....and they choose to just HO every fight with out any ACM....an ejection thread will be started we will try to encourage this individual to change his ways if they still refuse and just HO every fight they will be ejected from the Ladder.
again the HO shot is just a coin toss.....it has NO PLACE in a dueling Ladder where good fights are expected.
A season will consist of 6 months.
these rules were adapted from the DFC dueling rules and the fencing Ladder rules
Who Wants to be Top Dog.......grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwllllllll lll
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/dfc_ladder.jpg)
post ingame and BBs name we will be using ingame names on the ladder, and for now we will only be showing the top 20 names on the ladder if it takes off I will make a new ladder with more names showing.
I will sign up first
game / board
INK / ink
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I'm in.......Canspec/Scorch......not very good but this is a good way to get better...
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Oops....should be
Game/Board
Scorch/Canspec
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Dmgod/Dmgod
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Debrody
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Slash27 :aok
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JOACH1M
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IrishOne :aok
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Zoney
Zoney
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BBS: PFactorDave
Game: PFactorD
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Simon/Simon
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Bruv119
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sweet good turn out so far...if this keeps going it wont take a week before we start :rock
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Ill take a swing.
BBS:StokesAk
Game:Strokes
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I'm in.......Canspec/Scorch......not very good but this is a good way to get better...
Ding Ding Ding ! Winner !
You already show a 1 to 1 K/D, after a few of these watch what happens. This is what this is all about. A year from now I'll be running from you everytime I see ya.
InkyDinkyDoo, sure glad ya started this ball rolling mate.
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Ding Ding Ding ! Winner !
You already show a 1 to 1 K/D, after a few of these watch what happens. This is what this is all about. A year from now I'll be running from you everytime I see ya.
InkyDinkyDoo, sure glad ya started this ball rolling mate.
:lol
you are right though...the only way to get better is by going against someone better(that's with everything not just AH)....but not just once.....keep at them till you can kill them...never stop never quit....
and NEVER EVER have a defeatist attitude ie..."I cant do that" :salute
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,320808.msg4185774.html#msg4185774 for my remarks
and...
as for this go around... work out some of the general rules better and count me in. :aok
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Smothers
Game: Pheasant
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:aok in slimmer / slimmer
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Sukov
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old one was way fun=)
BBS DOUG
IG akELFY
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Changeup
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Im in.
Immaa kil all you chirping cricket mo fo s
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Game/BBs
Devil5O5/ Devil 505
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,320808.msg4185774.html#msg4185774 for my remarks
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as for this go around... work out some of the general rules better and count me in. :aok
what rules are you wondering about?....seems pretty easy and clear...what you posted in the other thread, pretty much every thing you touched base on is covered in the rules as stated.....
I thought I did good on explaining the HO in this ladder....if some one just HO's and does not try for some kind of ACM we ask them to change give him a chance to change if no change they are out...simple.....I don't "know" everyone that signed up ingame....but a lot of them are the "want a great fight" type guys....I don't think we will have any issues......and if we do we fall on the rules and that's it....simple
nice guys we have 20 participants :rock
so tonight I am gonna do a random draw for the ladder rungs and post it up when I am done...in a new thread...to keep it simple I figure just one "Challenge and results thread" maybe if it kicks off Skuzzy will open a new public Forum. :pray
I also wanna say :salute to all who joined and may you have great Honorable fights.
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:rofl
me and the wife just randomly drew out the names....... :rofl
wait until you guys see the ladder :rofl
uh ya almost forgot
added to the rules
We will play by Gentalman’s rules. All disputes will be resolved at the end of each dual. Both pilots will decide a victor at the end of each duel ON THEIR OWN. If both pilots can not agree on a victor then both pilots will fall to the bottom of the ladder. If this results in a pilot forfeiting by dropping out of the ladder then the remaining pilot will be the victor and advance up the ladder.
Collisions at the first merge are a draw and the duel will be re done.
Collisions after the first merge result in no foul. The duel will continue until there is a victor
Fight on will begin at red icon range. Pilots may begin maneuvering at this point.
because the top spot weather it be the 1 or 4 as it is now, they have no one above to challenge so they must Challenge below them...they can challenge anyone on the ladder and if they lose they switch rung.....if they win they Keep there rung.
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your ladder and where to begin the challenges :rock
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,321097.0.html
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just thought of another issue we may come into
first come first serve who ever posts the challenge first in the Challenge and results thread is the one the Challengee must accept
if the challengee is already engaged with another challenge the Challenger must challenge someone else.....say that 10 times :rofl
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This will be great :aok
If people accept the judges word is final even if wrong and more time is spent fighting than argueing about results. I would suggest if the judge is involved and anyone argues about the final decision they are banned for at least 3 months. I would rather have occasional error of judgement going unchecked than all the whingebaggery that has gone on in the past.
Good Show :salute
Yarbles/Yarbles I want to join in and abbide by the rules :salute :salute :angel:
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SunFan
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Ace/DrSpek
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Ardy123/bunnies
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Im in
Sonic23
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Boo is in~!
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cool you two...will update :aok
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SEseph
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I'll be a victim if one is Still Needed
Ingame Crazy8s
BBS Molsman
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:airplane:
there u happy now????
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cool beans Flots...will update the roster I believe that puts you at #36...
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wow......
i am number 36??????????
i have never been less than in triple almost quadruple digits in any fighter list before........
I GOTZ MAD SKILLZ NOW!!!!!!! :banana: :airplane: :joystick: :airplane: :banana:
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TnDep
TnDep
In
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cc that will update the roster.
thanx for joining, and Have fun with it.
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Here you go root-huggers...
OOoohhhh...this is gonna be a huge blast...
However, it IS missing a couple of pile-its....lets see...my humble attempt at selfishly issuing challenges to more people that will make me better...
Corkyjr...callin you out
Shuffler...dude...really? Get in this...38's could become cool again if you and the Corkscrew hammer on people
JUGgler...you don't need a break...bring your countryass back
PotsNPans...come on...the C200 series belongs to you...don't miss this one bro
Kappa....this presents tardless action, to which you are not accustomed to getting very often. Sit your butt down and lets get it on
Cactus...don't miss this feast...besides, Lt James Shurig says to do it and he would like the first challenge you issue to be in the B25, Brooklyn Dodger, you stud
Fringe..where the hell have you been? Bring your medical school bellybutton back in here...I always wanted to beat up on a doctor anyway...you guys are rude to us normal people
Princess...if you don't fly in this you'll forever be a skirt hiker
Levi....rust? hmmm....my bet is that there is no better way to knock it off...its time...quit candyassing around...you know you want it...you just need a shove. Here goes...YOU SUCK!! lol
Shawk...what in THE hell is wrong with you? bring that mullet over here you WUSSY!!!!!!!!!!
SFox....only retards fly course-hairs..panzy
Aces of the Rising Sun...what the hell is that with no 1 v 1. Pug Southerland says man-up or shut it and he took 5 of ya...I'll be your HucklePug
Thing....you want some? Your squaddie spent the time gettin it together so feel froggy!
Dodger...YOU GIANT AIRSUCKING PANZY!!! Get that ridiculous F6F tub-o-crap with a view of NOTHING and lets dance!!!!!!!!!! I don't wanna hear any BS about it!!!
SunBat....I pwn you....yellow-boy, lmao!!!!
Batfink....I LET you beat me in the bracket that first time because I felt sorry for ya...now, I'm gonna school your brit-ass...lets see what you got...boooyeeeee
JunkyII...I know your back so step the hell up and make a statement...peachfuzz
Grizz....oh dude....the rumor mill must be right...you don't have the stones to jump in this because bruv is sittin on top right now...you best reach down there and see what you got, lmao!
Silat...woman
TonyJoey....WTF? you giving yourself "style" points for being testicularly challenged? Man UP!!!!
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Here you go root-huggers...
OOoohhhh...this is gonna be a huge blast...
However, it IS missing a couple of pile-its....lets see...my humble attempt at selfishly issuing challenges to more people that will make me better...
Corkyjr...callin you out
Shuffler...dude...really? Get in this...38's could become cool again if you and the Corkscrew hammer on people
JUGgler...you don't need a break...bring your countryass back
PotsNPans...come on...the C200 series belongs to you...don't miss this one bro
Kappa....this presents tardless action, to which you are not accustomed to getting very often. Sit your butt down and lets get it on
Cactus...don't miss this feast...besides, Lt James Shurig says to do it and he would like the first challenge you issue to be in the B25, Brooklyn Dodger, you stud
Fringe..where the hell have you been? Bring your medical school bellybutton back in here...I always wanted to beat up on a doctor anyway...you guys are rude to us normal people
Princess...if you don't fly in this you'll forever be a skirt hiker
Levi....rust? hmmm....my bet is that there is no better way to knock it off...its time...quit candyassing around...you know you want it...you just need a shove. Here goes...YOU SUCK!! lol
Shawk...what in THE hell is wrong with you? bring that mullet over here you WUSSY!!!!!!!!!!
SFox....only retards fly course-hairs..panzy
Aces of the Rising Sun...what the hell is that with no 1 v 1. Pug Southerland says man-up or shut it and he took 5 of ya...I'll be your HucklePug
Thing....you want some? Your squaddie spent the time gettin it together so feel froggy!
Dodger...YOU GIANT AIRSUCKING PANZY!!! Get that ridiculous F6F tub-o-crap with a view of NOTHING and lets dance!!!!!!!!!! I don't wanna hear any BS about it!!!
SunBat....I pwn you....yellow-boy, lmao!!!!
Batfink....I LET you beat me in the bracket that first time because I felt sorry for ya...now, I'm gonna school your brit-ass...lets see what you got...boooyeeeee
JunkyII...I know your back so step the hell up and make a statement...peachfuzz
Grizz....oh dude....the rumor mill must be right...you don't have the stones to jump in this because bruv is sittin on top right now...you best reach down there and see what you got, lmao!
Silat...woman
TonyJoey....WTF? you giving yourself "style" points for being testicularly challenged? Man UP!!!!
BAHAHAHAA thanks changeup that was great. :rofl :rofl