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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: RotBaron on April 27, 2021, 03:33:49 PM
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So many things in this article I was surprised about. I take a lot of it with a grain of salt, but there’s no doubt on the food for us and our pets! Many years back our dogs got sick from Walmart purchased treats...”jerky treats” if I remember correctly.
https://www.savespendsplurge.com/which-companies-manufacture-their-products-and-goods-in-china/
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It is getting really difficult to buy any products NOT made in China <S>
That's a good read.
..........another one, be careful with flea pills.....some cause dogs to have seizures.
Check out the FDA web page to see if the product you use is listed.
:uhoh
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We went from a high quality high paying technical and mechanical manufacturing economy to a cheap products, low wage, service economy all in the span of 10 years in the 90s due to places like Walmart and the policies that allowed them to get away with it.
But who really cares about "regulations and working conditions" when it's in another country. As long as we make it impossible for American businesses to succeed with those high taxes and regulations and not provide any incentive to stay in America, Am I right? :rofl
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We went from a high quality high paying technical and mechanical manufacturing economy to a cheap products, low wage, service economy all in the span of 10 years in the 90s due to places like Walmart and the policies that allowed them to get away with it.
But who really cares about "regulations and working conditions" when it's in another country. As long as we make it impossible for American businesses to succeed with those high taxes and regulations and not provide any incentive to stay in America, Am I right? :rofl
Don't forget American wanting stuff and at dirt cheap prices. There was also those shareholders who wanted a better/higher return on their shares.
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The short answer is what isn't made in the land of cheap Chinese slave labor
Eagler
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INteresting but likely soon closed. :rolleyes:
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We went from a high quality high paying technical and mechanical manufacturing economy to a cheap products, low wage, service economy all in the span of 10 years in the 90s due to places like Walmart and the policies that allowed them to get away with it.
But who really cares about "regulations and working conditions" when it's in another country. As long as we make it impossible for American businesses to succeed with those high taxes and regulations and not provide any incentive to stay in America, Am I right? :rofl
Walmart used to pay a premium if whatever they bought was made in the usa. day after he died his kids went to make as much money as they could. even their wages went down. it wasn't regulations, it was greed.
when I used to work in the steel company we lost about 100 small companies with less than 100 employees because they could not stay profitable due to the tariff wars in past 4 years. they made from rebar to rims to shelves for home depot and lowes. now who knows where that comes from.
semp
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iNteresting:
There are about 12 million Uighurs, mostly Muslim, living in north-western China in the region of Xinjiang, MSM never mentions them or how they are being treated.
I avoid their products when I can.
:salute
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Walmart used to pay a premium if whatever they bought was made in the usa. day after he died his kids went to make as much money as they could. even their wages went down. it wasn't regulations, it was greed.
when I used to work in the steel company we lost about 100 small companies with less than 100 employees because they could not stay profitable due to the tariff wars in past 4 years. they made from rebar to rims to shelves for home depot and lowes. now who knows where that comes from.
semp
We use to use tariffs (like every other country) on foreign products to benefit our workers and manufacturers at home. Now we tax our workers and manufacturers and God forbid we use tariffs to compete with the rest of the world who do it to us. I'd much rather tariff the world and cut all income theft tax. Perhaps those small companies would have been able to stay in business then.
What most fail to realize is that eventually prices will stabilize all over the world and there won't be "muh cheap products" anymore. America was never built to be a cheap economy depending on the rest of the world to sustain us. America was never built to ron citizens with property tax and income tax. The zone economy is the most fundamental aspect to a prospering society and we have severely crushed that.
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We use to use tariffs (like every other country) on foreign products to benefit our workers and manufacturers at home. Now we tax our workers and manufacturers and God forbid we use tariffs to compete with the rest of the world who do it to us. I'd much rather tariff the world and cut all income theft tax. Perhaps those small companies would have been able to stay in business then.
What most fail to realize is that eventually prices will stabilize all over the world and there won't be "muh cheap products" anymore. America was never built to be a cheap economy depending on the rest of the world to sustain us. America was never built to ron citizens with property tax and income tax. The zone economy is the most fundamental aspect to a prospering society and we have severely crushed that.
you can put all the tariffs you want on the world but guess who pays for them?
hint: not the world.
semp
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Europe puts a 20 per cent tax on any import car. Thus, many car companies have built plants there.
Should we put the exact tax of 20 per cent on their imports? Consumers here do not want their beemers and MB’s to go up in price. They will holler.
Many European car companies have built factories here in anticipation of that happening and to avoid transportation costs.
:salute
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This thread was meant to be informative only. Mainly about the concerns of toxic chemicals in our food and pet food, but also even clothing, etc...
If it gets locked it’s because of where it gets taken, not because that article is controversial. :old:
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wait till violator finds out we going to plant based beer only.
semp
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you can put all the tariffs you want on the world but guess who pays for them?
hint: not the world.
semp
So buy from your own country then and avoid their price. That's the point. Or should we just use the same working conditions and standards they use so we can cut cost and price items as cheaply as they can?
Europe puts a 20 per cent tax on any import car. Thus, many car companies have built plants there.
Should we put the exact tax of 20 per cent on their imports? Consumers here do not want their beemers and MB’s to go up in price. They will holler.
Many European car companies have built factories here in anticipation of that happening and to avoid transportation costs.
:salute
That sounds like a great idea! Would love to have those car manufacturing plants here.
This thread was meant to be informative only. Mainly about the concerns of toxic chemicals in our food and pet food, but also even clothing, etc...
If it gets locked it’s because of where it gets taken, not because that article is controversial. :old:
It's cheap! Who cares! That's what cheap means. Crap quality that can almost kill you! Who cares tho because it's super cheap! Who cares about their working conditions and what ever the hell they do. It's cheap and Americans can afford it! Especially since we rob their tulips for even having the gall to hire someone in America.
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So buy from your own country then and avoid their price. That's the point. Or should we just use the same working conditions and standards they use so we can cut cost and price items as cheaply as they can?
ok cool, when we raise tariffs on coconuts from timbuktu, timbuktu doesnt pay the tariff. we do. it is just that simple. and if we dont have coconuts because hawaii doesnt produce enough then hawaii will raise their prices well because they can and they still wont produce all we need.
semp
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Question: Who is really to blame for this sort of thing?
Truth is you could insert any country you want into that list. The ones to blame are the consumers. Us, we are the consumers!
For the most part they (we) do not really care about quality, they (we) care about the dollars. If they can get 'the same thing <almost>' for cheaper then they (we) will do it. Blaming another country or a government is simply ignoring the facts, today the society is built on getting what you want for a little as you can.
Of course there are some of us that are willing to pay top dollar for whatever product we choose to put top of our importance list but we same people will go out of our way to pay $1 for milk rather than $1:20.
Consumer society is great but consumer society sucks....... If only I could find a desert island for the price of a TV.....
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Question: Who is really to blame for this sort of thing?
The ones to blame are the consumers. Us, we are the consumers!
This :aok
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ok cool, when we raise tariffs on coconuts from timbuktu, timbuktu doesnt pay the tariff. we do. it is just that simple. and if we dont have coconuts because hawaii doesnt produce enough then hawaii will raise their prices well because they can and they still wont produce all we need.
semp
Ahhh, so you think it's perfectly okay to raise taxes on American workers and push a tax on employers for their employees labor, which creates higher prices and less jobs. While also allowing another nation to trade here and undercut American prices of those goods for no fee or tax at all? Seems fair.....
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ok cool, when we raise tariffs on coconuts from timbuktu, timbuktu doesnt pay the tariff. we do. it is just that simple. and if we dont have coconuts because hawaii doesnt produce enough then hawaii will raise their prices well because they can and they still wont produce all we need.
semp
It’s not that simple actually. Many tariffs are paid by the exporter, many cases they are not. It depends on the product, supply/demand, laws, trade negotiations, etc...
The buck is not always passed on to the consumer, but yes sometimes it is. A lot depends on the the specific tariff and the product(s).
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Fundamentally they way it’s supposed to work is here:
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/tariffs/
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It’s not that simple actually. Many tariffs are paid by the exporter, many cases they are not. It depends on the product, supply/demand, laws, trade negotiations, etc...
The buck is not always passed on to the consumer, but yes sometimes it is. A lot depends on the the specific tariff and the product(s).
say you have a business, your taxes go up 20%, so you absorb that tax, because it's unthinkable to pass it to consumers.
semp
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Ahhh, so you think it's perfectly okay to raise taxes on American workers and push a tax on employers for their employees labor, which creates higher prices and less jobs. While also allowing another nation to trade here and undercut American prices of those goods for no fee or tax at all? Seems fair.....
I didnt think that, you did.
semp
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Just to think that most likely all of this criticism is typed with computers/phones made in China, delivered all over the world via servers made in China and read on screens made in China. Oh, the Chinese may use Japanese capacitors here and there...
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Just to think that most likely all of this criticism is typed with computers/phones made in China, delivered all over the world via servers made in China and read on screens made in China. Oh, the Chinese may use Japanese capacitors here and there...
i miss the old day. there was a movie about a russian and american astronauts, are you familiar with american components? american components, russian components, they are all the same thing, all made in Taiwan.
still funny then, still funny now
semp
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say you have a business, your taxes go up 20%, so you absorb that tax, because it's unthinkable to pass it to consumers.
semp
That is exactly the sort of comment I would expect from a drunk who thinks driving drunk is funny..............
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In the name of cheaper we have Russian programmers writing our businesses software while China builds our network hardware
No problem there at all lol
Eagler
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That is exactly the sort of comment I would expect from a drunk who thinks driving drunk is funny..............
Uncalled for.
- oldman
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Just to think that most likely all of this criticism is typed with computers/phones made in China, delivered all over the world via servers made in China and read on screens made in China. Oh, the Chinese may use Japanese capacitors here and there...
You make the point of the post, indirectly you may not be aware albeit.
When you purchase products made in Finland doesn’t it make you feel better that you helped preserve jobs in your own country? Make you proud or give you some pride in your country?
Also you have a good idea how the products were made and what’s in them, or rather what isn’t...like toxins
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Uncalled for.
- oldman
I dont think he was calling semp a drunk, it was an example, like a thief thinking breaking and entering is funny.
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You make the point of the post, indirectly you may not be aware albeit.
When you purchase products made in Finland doesn’t it make you feel better that you helped preserve jobs in your own country? Make you proud or give you some pride in your country?
Also you have a good idea how the products were made and what’s in them, or rather what isn’t...like toxins
The "made in <your country>" tag may not tell the truth. Clothes are one example: There's no cotton fields here, yet cotton clothes are made here. Finnish wool is only used for handicraft products, all woollen clothing is tailored out of foreing fabrics. Same thing in Estonia which is famous for their linen - except that there's not a single linen fabric manufacturer left.
The only thing one can be relatively sure of is food as raw materials. Even there there's counterfeits: Swedish strawberries sold as Finnish at the start of the season, meat stamped as Finnish as it's been only packaged here... If the crooks get caught they'll get punished but there's still those who'll try their luck.
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That is exactly the sort of comment I would expect from a drunk who thinks driving drunk is funny..............
and yet, you still didn't answer my question. because based on experience i know the cost gets passed to customers. worked in the steel industry many years. we got steel from Brazil, Japan, Mexico, and other countries. only about 5% from the usa. you know why mostly from other countries? reliability and quality. forget that it was also more expensive.
the slabs we would get from ussteel was crap. they were warped so bad that sometimes we could only stack them 10 high, while foreign steel we could stack 20 high.
they would always be rolled at the end just in case they damaged our equipment. once we rolled over 1000 coils that turned out to be the wrong kind of steel. we wasted money and lost customers because that good old us steel they sent was bad.
two countries our company would never do business with. China and Russia, we didn't trust the quality of their steel.
semp
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I buy most of my clothes online and try to avoid Made in China. I found a good denim company right here in Chicago, IL. Dearborn Denim, I buy all my jeans are from there. https://dearborndenim.us/ (https://dearborndenim.us/)
-Windy
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I buy most of my clothes online and try to avoid Made in China. I found a good denim company right here in Chicago, IL. Dearborn Denim, I buy all my jeans are from there. https://dearborndenim.us/ (https://dearborndenim.us/)
-Windy
comparable to Levi's 501 made in the usa. I love my 501s.
semp
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Actually,
I was calling semp a drunk. A self admitted drunk driver who thinks that getting pulled for a DUI is funny.
May want to read up on your 501's semp. Well, if you're sober enough to read AND comprehend the writing.
Oldman..................meh
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Actually,
I was calling semp a drunk. A self admitted drunk driver who thinks that getting pulled for a DUI is funny.
May want to read up on your 501's semp. Well, if you're sober enough to read AND comprehend the writing.
Oldman..................meh
and you got that from a joke that I posted which was funny. except it's funnier if you tell it in the first person. I wasnt alone, there were 4 in the car and the person who was driving was not drunk as she doesnt drink. and the reason we got pulled was the temporary tags I had in my car were expired and it took several months to get the permanent plates during the pandemic.
but any way you remind me of this guy I argued on facebook and he couldnt come up with a reason to defend his position. so he said well you are fat and I am fit and trimmed. I showed it to my wife and we laughed and laughed. just like I showed your post at the legion and they all burst out laughing at you.
so do you have a position or you just gonna continue with personal attacks. my guess personal attacks. dont worry I dont take them personally and I dont know you and you dont know me. all you heard was a joke. which if you have flown with me or against me, you will know I dont take this game seriously. tomorrow we start a new day.
semp
edit: and you may want to check out some of the 501's, they have a tag that says made in america.
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Actually,
I was calling semp a drunk. A self admitted drunk driver who thinks that getting pulled for a DUI is funny.
May want to read up on your 501's semp. Well, if you're sober enough to read AND comprehend the writing.
Oldman..................meh
Yup.
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just got busted with 20 lbs
« on: October 17, 2020, 12:14:34 AM »
got pulled over by police, was a bit tipsy, wont deny that, had a few drinks at the legion. officer asked me if he could check my car and trunk, I said sure, had a bag with stuff in it. he got on the radio and asked for back up. he asked me how much was in the bag, I said I am not sure 18 or 20 lbs.
3 other officers showed up, he asked me to sit on the curb, I said sir, i cant have a bad back and bad legs, if I sit I wont be able to get up. so he said just stand still, checked me for guns and stuff. he told me I was going to jail for dui and drug possession. I told them I understand the dui, but what drugs? he said you told me I have 18 to 20 lbs. I said those arent drugs. one of the cops opened the two packages and smell it. turns to the arresting officer and said congratulations you got the biggest pork lard bust we ever had in the county. first officer said what? it looked like meth, the other officers said, naw it's pork lard, then he turns to me and said, you know the max is 5 ounces. the other cops are just laughing their tulips off.
the first officer is embarrassed but he just had no choice but to laugh. he told me to lock the car and walk home pick it up in the morning.
I know it was wrong of me to drive drunk. but it was just hilarious. anyway I learned my lesson. will pick up the lard in the morning and head to my friend's house to make 30 lbs of carnitas.
semp
So semp, you were saying the story was different than when you posted it? Please by all means read your post and explain in a sobering manner, if thats possible for you.
BTW Levi 501's "Made is the USA" were only made at 2 plants in the US and sold for $150 a pair. Now those are not available. Research can be your friend.
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So semp, you were saying the story was different than when you posted it? Please by all means read your post and explain in a sobering manner, if thats possible for you.
BTW Levi 501's "Made is the USA" were only made at 2 plants in the US and sold for $150 a pair. Now those are not available. Research can be your friend.
what does it has to do with your position. like I said personal attacks will continue. and it wasn't a story, it was a joke. like I said it is funnier if you omit some details and embellish others. here's another detail for you. it hasn't just happened, it actually happened two months before.
like I said before, you don't know me, if you did, you would know I'm always telling some wild stories on 200. most are pretty funny. if you knew me in person, you would know the stories are even wider than just what i posted.
so anyway, keep up with the personal attacks.
semp
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My position is that you simply do not know what you're saying. Even if you claim otherwise.
You posted a story about being pulled over for driving drunk. Now you deny you were the driver and that it was was someone else for stopped for another reason. Do you know honesty in any way?
You sir, made the supposed personal attacks possible with your lies, jokes, idiocy. What my posts show is that you can not be trusted. Hopefully anyone reading your posts will take your past comments into account.
Its ok tho semp...the guys at the legion will get a kick out of it......
if there is a legion.......
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My position is that you simply do not know what you're saying. Even if you claim otherwise.
You posted a story about being pulled over for driving drunk. Now you deny you were the driver and that it was was someone else for stopped for another reason. Do you know honesty in any way?
You sir, made the supposed personal attacks possible with your lies, jokes, idiocy. What my posts show is that you can not be trusted. Hopefully anyone reading your posts will take your past comments into account.
Its ok tho semp...the guys at the legion will get a kick out of it......
if there is a legion.......
I didn't post a story, I posted a joke. and of course there's no such things as legions.
and you know what's funny, only 1 guy actually doubted the full joke for the right reasons. can't remember his name but he's or was a leo. he posted it on that thread.
semp
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Yes, we all knew your joke in there.
What were not clear about is why you said in the thread you started that you were tipsy after a few and the cops said you’d be getting a DUI...
If you weren’t the driver as you’re stating now, why did you put that in your post?
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,402897.0.html
^ that post is why very few of us find it funny about driving after drinking.
Also did you read the article and look into your Levi’s yet?
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We went from a high quality high paying technical and mechanical manufacturing economy to a cheap products, low wage, service economy all in the span of 10 years in the 90s due to places like Walmart and the policies that allowed them to get away with it.
This may, quite literally, be the only statement you've ever made that I completely agree with.
I haven't spent a dollar inside a Walmart in decades. They flipped the entire ideology of fair market economics over and simply took with they wanted. If you had a product that was American made and sold well, they offered to sell it in their stores. Then, once your business was committed to selling with them (and your sales depended upon their stores), they decided what they were going to buy it from you for. Look at the history of the Snapper lawnmower company sometime. Walmart was singularly responsible for the downfall of quality in their product line... because once they depended on the sales from Wally-World, Wally world told them at what price they were going to buy their products for. This forced the workmanship and quality to go down in response.
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I haven't spent a dollar inside a Walmart in decades.
I'm not sure you are making any difference. Shopping on Amazon or even the local Mom and Pop retailers won't make any difference. Grandma isn't in the back warehouse soldering together TV sets out of local raw materials.
If you drove Walmart out of business, who ever took their place would be doing the exact same thing. In a free market, production seeks maximum efficiency. That's a feature not a bug.
I'm old enough to remember when the problem was "Made in Japan" and "Made in Taiwan".
I'm not saying that low end manufacturing will never return to America; but when it does, it will be largely robotic factories. Still not much better for your average Joe factory worker.
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Yes, we all knew your joke in there.
What were not clear about is why you said in the thread you started that you were tipsy after a few and the cops said you’d be getting a DUI...
If you weren’t the driver as you’re stating now, why did you put that in your post?
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,402897.0.html
^ that post is why very few of us find it funny about driving after drinking.
Also did you read the article and look into your Levi’s yet?
feel sorry for the kid and his family, it's a tragedy. what I dont understand is why you bring a post from several months after I posted my joke. Like i said, it may not have been funny to you, but it has nothing to do with that thread you quoted. I also noted you didnt post anything on it. drunk driving is not funny but joking about it, well if it offends you then I have nothing to do with it.
like I said it was a joke, and it was mostly lacking lots of other details that people in the car added to it. Like I was crying on the side of the road. begging the cop not to take me to jail, which I consider funny. that story has gone around in the legions around here. about the only truth to the story was the officer actually thought pork lard was meth and he was corrected by another officer a few seconds later. the officer was embarrassed, but hey you make a mistake, we all do, add some other details and it becomes even funnier. pretty sure the officer is still being teased about the great pork lard arrest he did. just like I get teased about it at the legion not so much anymore.
regarding the 501's, they're a size 34. for years I was a size 46, because of a couple of accidents and had nothing to do but eat. but hell, some fishing lines and pork lard and I can fit into them, even though it hurts.
anyway, your personal attacks are just amusing to me. reminds me of al bundy when he couldnt think of a come back with marcy, "well, you are a chicken".
:salute :salute
semp
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To bad the thread went sideways...
China is the largest threat to the security of the US as they provide us with their slave labor cheap products while owning our debt.
Always find it so confusing that the young and dumb here want to make amends for the slave time in the states while sleeping overnight in front of an apple store to get the next chinese slave labor produced iPhone..
They basically own us now and just need a way to totally collapse us without damaging themselves to badly and we are done.
The events from last year gave them that blueprint
The fed is doing their part printing trillions out of thin freaking air
Eagler
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Ive talked to a lot of employers saying that they cant even find anyone to hire because a lot of people are all living off the free money and are making more on unemployment then actually getting a job. They wont even come in for an interview because as long as they made an attempt at getting a job, they will continue to get the free money
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To bad the thread went sideways...
China is the largest threat to the security of the US as they provide us with their slave labor cheap products while owning our debt.
Always find it so confusing that the young and dumb here want to make amends for the slave time in the states while sleeping overnight in front of an apple store to get the next chinese slave labor produced iPhone..
They basically own us now and just need a way to totally collapse us without damaging themselves to badly and we are done.
The events from last year gave them that blueprint
The fed is doing their part printing trillions out of thin freaking air
Eagler
Biblical prophesy being fulfilled.
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This may, quite literally, be the only statement you've ever made that I completely agree with.
I haven't spent a dollar inside a Walmart in decades. They flipped the entire ideology of fair market economics over and simply took with they wanted. If you had a product that was American made and sold well, they offered to sell it in their stores. Then, once your business was committed to selling with them (and your sales depended upon their stores), they decided what they were going to buy it from you for. Look at the history of the Snapper lawnmower company sometime. Walmart was singularly responsible for the downfall of quality in their product line... because once they depended on the sales from Wally-World, Wally world told them at what price they were going to buy their products for. This forced the workmanship and quality to go down in response.
I'm glad that we agree on something! :cheers: I think its merely propaganda, rather than proof, that divides us. Like for example, without actually answering these questions on the board. Who controlled Arkansas for most of the 80s and early 90s? How much in stock did he own of Walmart? Who was the first woman on the board of Walmart? Who profited greatly off the stocks boom in the mid 90s? Who became president? How did that benefit Walmarts growth? What else was going in in Mena Arkansas during that time?
Do you understand why I am so outspoken and don't trust the almost same establishment today, with many of the same people in power?
These are just rhetorical questions. Don't answer on this board.
It's far deeper than just a store who was able to crush their suppliers to their will.
But, I hope you will take into consideration my approach to understanding the bigger issue we are dealing with and why Walmart was able to do what it did.
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Ive talked to a lot of employers saying that they cant even find anyone to hire because a lot of people are all living off the free money and are making more on unemployment then actually getting a job. They wont even come in for an interview because as long as they made an attempt at getting a job, they will continue to get the free money
They are paying for them to just come in and get interviewed!!!
https://youtu.be/EbG6HM2PJmw
The federal gov adding the additional unemployment benefit to the states has some making over $20 an hour sitting at home
But they are also allowed not to pay rent nor their student loans to name just a few...
The fed has increased the efficiency of the china virus with their economy killing response
Eagler
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what I dont understand is why you bring a post from several months after I posted my joke. Like i said, it may not have been funny to you, but it has nothing to do with that thread you quoted. I also noted you didnt post anything on it. drunk driving is not funny but joking about it, well if it offends you then I have nothing to do with it.
anyway, your personal attacks are just amusing to me. reminds me of al bundy when he couldnt think of a come back with marcy, "well, you are a chicken".
:salute :salute
semp
I didn’t bring up your thread, Sim did not sure why you are confusing what both of us have written :headscratch:
Actually I did post in your thread. Take a look:
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,401433.msg5319993.html#msg5319993
You have now stated nothing is funny about drunk driving but also say joking about it is :headscratch:
Also, nowhere have I personally attacked you in this thread or your thread. Rather, merely pointed out the inconsistency. Sim and I are not the same person, you need to read them again...
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They are paying for them to just come in and get interviewed!!!
https://youtu.be/EbG6HM2PJmw
The federal gov adding the additional unemployment benefit to the states has some making over $20 an hour sitting at home
But they are also allowed not to pay rent nor their student loans to name just a few...
The fed has increased the efficiency of the china virus with their economy killing response
Eagler
kind of misleading there eagler. rents have to be paid now, including extra amount for rent you owe for last year. you can now get evicted for not paying or making up missed payments. and if you get evicted good luck trying to rent an apartment in the next 10 years.
semp
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I didn’t bring up your thread, Sim did not sure why you are confusing what both of us have written :headscratch:
Actually I did post in your thread. Take a look:
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,401433.msg5319993.html#msg5319993
You have now stated nothing is funny about drunk driving but also say joking about it is :headscratch:
Also, nowhere have I personally attacked you in this thread or your thread. Rather, merely pointed out the inconsistency. Sim and I are not the same person, you need to read them again...
my bad, just assumed it was him.
semp
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kind of misleading there eagler. rents have to be paid now, including extra amount for rent you owe for last year. you can now get evicted for not paying or making up missed payments. and if you get evicted good luck trying to rent an apartment in the next 10 years.
semp
You sure about that?
"Effective April 1, 2021, the CDC extended the existing eviction moratorium through June 30, 2021"
https://www.investopedia.com/renters-how-to-get-covid-19-rent-relief-4800858
They have been rent free and receiving more money than if they were working...
Now mr potato head wants to forgive at least 10k as much as 50k of other money they are responsible for in student loans
The us government is doing everything it can to sink this economy
The real question is why...
Eagler
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Power is a hell of a drug, Eagler.
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Power is a hell of a drug, Eagler.
Cheap goods and thrills are too. It’s how we ended up in this mess.
I’ve never met a Korean War veteran that didn’t say don’t buy from China. Too bad most of them are gone and their words forgotten.
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You sure about that?
"Effective April 1, 2021, the CDC extended the existing eviction moratorium through June 30, 2021"
https://www.investopedia.com/renters-how-to-get-covid-19-rent-relief-4800858
They have been rent free and receiving more money than if they were working...
Now mr potato head wants to forgive at least 10k as much as 50k of other money they are responsible for in student loans
The us government is doing everything it can to sink this economy
The real question is why...
Eagler
I stand corrected but you will still have to make up the missed rent otherwise nobody will rent to you.
Power is a hell of a drug, Eagler.
may the fourth be with you always.
semp
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To bad the thread went sideways...
China is the largest threat to the security of the US as they provide us with their slave labor cheap products while owning our debt.
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Eagler
China owns a grand total of 14% of our debt. Most of the national debt is owned by Americans (~60%). Japan holds the most debt by amount and percentage at 20%. China can't do anything with that debt, other than hope we pay them on it, as does any other country. There is no international debt court to go to. If China attempted to coerce international embargoes in order to pressure us for that 14%, the world would quite literally laugh at them.
As far as a threat to national security, the Chinese are decades behind us in military technology and operational assets. The absolute most China could hope do do would be hold us to a stalemate in a regional, non-nuclear conflict. Our naval air power alone is greater than the entirety of their total air power. Our at-sea force projection for surface combatants currently has no equal, let alone the handful of capable Chinese surface assets that could sortie in the China Sea. We couldn't invade them, but we wouldn't need to take a single square inch of their territory in a shooting war. There is no nation on the planet anywhere close to us in terms of military assets or power projection capability. It's not even up for debate.
The attempt to portray China as our mortal enemy plays into the hands of the powerful people that want you to be scared, so that you will vote the way they wish you to.
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China owns a grand total of 14% of our debt. Most of the national debt is owned by Americans (~60%). Japan holds the most debt by amount and percentage at 20%. China can't do anything with that debt, other than hope we pay them on it, as does any other country. There is no international debt court to go to. If China attempted to coerce international embargoes in order to pressure us for that 14%, the world would quite literally laugh at them.
As far as a threat to national security, the Chinese are decades behind us in military technology and operational assets. The absolute most China could hope do do would be hold us to a stalemate in a regional, non-nuclear conflict. Our naval air power alone is greater than the entirety of their total air power. Our at-sea force projection for surface combatants currently has no equal, let alone the handful of capable Chinese surface assets that could sortie in the China Sea. We couldn't invade them, but we wouldn't need to take a single square inch of their territory in a shooting war. There is no nation on the planet anywhere close to us in terms of military assets or power projection capability. It's not even up for debate.
The attempt to portray China as our mortal enemy plays into the hands of the powerful people that want you to be scared, so that you will vote the way they wish you to.
While I agree they may not be our Mortal enemy, neither are they our ally. I would classify them as an enemy, somewhat more dangerous than Russia.
I hope your right about them being decades behind us in military technology and operational assets. But they are sure working hard to hack into our systems and gain the upper hand.