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Title: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on April 13, 2015, 08:16:20 PM
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b461/snax6/F837D269-99E2-4380-A72D-FBDAB27EA5E1_zps272tu8te.jpg) (http://s1046.photobucket.com/user/snax6/media/F837D269-99E2-4380-A72D-FBDAB27EA5E1_zps272tu8te.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on April 13, 2015, 08:17:00 PM
Who can find more about this plane? Love to see it skinned
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: kilo2 on April 13, 2015, 08:28:34 PM
I think it is a Swiss air force skin.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: lyric1 on April 13, 2015, 08:45:02 PM
I think it is a Swiss air force skin.

Yep.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Bf%20109%20spanish/Bf-109_6_zpsbg4nkeqi.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Bf%20109%20spanish/Bf-109_6_zpsbg4nkeqi.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on April 13, 2015, 09:01:00 PM
Yep.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Bf%20109%20spanish/Bf-109_6_zpsbg4nkeqi.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Bf%20109%20spanish/Bf-109_6_zpsbg4nkeqi.jpg.html)
Is there any outstanding reasons for no skins made?
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: macleod01 on April 14, 2015, 06:40:50 AM
Judging by the fact it is swiss, I would say never saw combat? Switzerland being neutral. I may be wrong though.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: bacon8tr on April 14, 2015, 02:45:46 PM
Correct me if I am wrong.  I seem to recall the Swiss kept the aircraft of the Countries that landed in Switzerland for whatever reason.  In turn they used their A/C to form their own squadrons.  IIRC there is also a book that was written about the Swiss Airforce during WWII.  Someone correct me if I am wrong...it is quite possible I dreamed this.  :noid
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: lyric1 on April 14, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
Judging by the fact it is swiss, I would say never saw combat? Switzerland being neutral. I may be wrong though.
Correct.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Lazerr on April 14, 2015, 08:50:11 PM
That is an awesome skin
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on April 15, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
That is an awesome skin
it is, I really would love to see it ingame.  :(
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Someguy63 on April 15, 2015, 10:46:39 AM
Pretty please? :pray
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Wmaker on April 15, 2015, 12:56:13 PM
There were Swiss AF skins in the game before (the older AH 2.0 Bf109 shape). They did intercept both German and Allied aircraft flying into Swiss airspace. Wether that is considered enough for inclusion to the game nowadays is another matter but Swiss 109s have been in the game in the past. But of course only the ones that were flying in the said markings during the war. I do not know if the plane in question was painted like that during the war or wether it was post war.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: bustr on April 16, 2015, 05:48:44 PM
For about $60 this book may have the answer to the date of the shark mouth Bf109 G6.

 MESSERSCHMITT ME 109 IN SWISS AIR FORCE SERVICE

Schiffer Publications - ISBN# 9780764329241
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on April 16, 2015, 07:15:03 PM
For about $60 this book may have the answer to the date of the shark mouth Bf109 G6.

 MESSERSCHMITT ME 109 IN SWISS AIR FORCE SERVICE

Schiffer Publications - ISBN# 9780764329241
it could be worth 60$ to me
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: lyric1 on April 16, 2015, 09:00:18 PM
The problem I see is the decal company cant even tell if it is a G6 or a G14?

http://www.risingdecals.com/Bf-109/72-012_Swiss.htm
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Devil 505 on April 16, 2015, 09:36:54 PM
The problem I see is the decal company cant even tell if it is a G6 or a G14?

http://www.risingdecals.com/Bf-109/72-012_Swiss.htm

Seems they have one of each. I'm inclined to believe the plane in the photo is a G-6.

Since it's Swiss, it cannot be used in the online game, but If I get enough requests I'll do this one for anyone that wants it for offline.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on April 16, 2015, 10:00:04 PM
Seems they have one of each. I'm inclined to believe the plane in the photo is a G-6.

Since it's Swiss, it cannot be used in the online game, but If I get enough requests I'll do this one for anyone that wants it for offline.
looks to be a g6 to me... But why does Swiss have anything to do with it getting in? Because it was nutrual country?
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Devil 505 on April 16, 2015, 10:29:44 PM
looks to be a g6 to me... But why does Swiss have anything to do with it getting in? Because it was nutrual country?

Exactly.

Skins are only approved for units that saw combat with that airframe, and also these 109s are captured from Germany not purchased.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on April 19, 2015, 10:20:58 PM
Such a hear breaker
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: save on May 08, 2015, 07:02:24 PM
Swiss airforce had a number of kills during the war, same but to  much less extent did the  Swedish airforce .
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Bruv119 on May 09, 2015, 02:34:13 AM
I say skin it! 

They flew during WW2 in squadron strength.   Plenty of us like to fly the German rides without iron cross skins on them as a matter of preference.

Whoever stuck roundels or crosses on beautiful aircraft was a S%^^&
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: lyric1 on May 09, 2015, 03:15:56 AM
I say skin it! 

They flew during WW2 in squadron strength.   Plenty of us like to fly the German rides without iron cross skins on them as a matter of preference.

Whoever stuck roundels or crosses on beautiful aircraft was a S%^^&

As what though they don't know what model 109 it was?
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: bustr on May 09, 2015, 02:07:55 PM
If you can get a copy of the book I listed, you will probably answer all of your questions about the skin.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Vraciu on May 09, 2015, 05:05:08 PM
Exactly.

Skins are only approved for units that saw combat with that airframe, and also these 109s are captured from Germany not purchased.

A petition for an exemption is one I would sign.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: save on May 12, 2015, 01:15:57 PM
Afaik Swiss airforce bought 50 Bf109E-1s and 30 Bf109E-3s. and not until 1943 did they fly captured 109's.

Same would go for Gloster Gladiator  1/3rd of Swedish air-force flew in  squadron strength against the Russians in the winter war with Finnish markings.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on May 12, 2015, 09:58:43 PM
double :/
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on May 12, 2015, 10:00:09 PM
If you can get a copy of the book I listed, you will probably answer all of your questions about the skin.
ill buy the book if it can be comfirmed we can have it ingame :)  :D
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Devil 505 on May 12, 2015, 10:37:57 PM
Switzerland is neutral in WW2. I doubt that any Swiss skins will ever be allowed for this game.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on May 12, 2015, 10:50:22 PM
I quit
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 13, 2015, 12:21:42 PM
Judging by the fact it is swiss, I would say never saw combat? Switzerland being neutral. I may be wrong though.

The Swiss saw some limited combat during the war, at the onset they gave the Luftwaffe a rather nasty bloody nose when Goering decided to let the Luftwaffe fly threw Swiss airspace.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on May 13, 2015, 05:13:39 PM
Plane seen action the skin deserves to be in.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: bustr on May 13, 2015, 09:12:31 PM
No, the skins from the bloody nose Goering got his luft by letting them fly in swiss air space. Those saw action. You still have to get the book on the off chance it will tell you that the skin your drool is dribbling over is worth the wet keyboard.

Or do more internet drooling to delve deeper into the specific skin's operational history. Something like look up the squadron that skin came from and see if they got to beat up on Germans during the time frame of that skin as part of their defending swiss neutrality.

Which is probably in that book....... :O

But, hey, you obviously have an internet connection and some kind of browser.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: JOACH1M on May 13, 2015, 09:27:43 PM
 :ahand
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Scherf on May 14, 2015, 01:25:31 AM
Swiss aircraft were certainly scrambled to intercept a number of errant Mossies, force them to land. I've not read of them having actually fired on them though, in most cases the Mossies were already damaged / having some kind of issue in the first place, which caused them to seek safety in Swiss airspace. Two uniquely-coded Mossies on the same day in one case, both from the same squadron, both with the squadron code incorrect (P3 instead of 3P), with one of them being so new the individual letter hadn't been painted on yet.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 31, 2015, 02:31:41 AM
There have been Swiss 109G skins before, why not now?
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Interceptor on June 03, 2015, 10:35:47 AM
Swiss did let any damaged plane land in their country (many videos in youtube), but didnt let them go back, unlike their crews : it was pure neutrality.
Title: Re: Heavy breathing
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 03, 2015, 05:26:21 PM
Swiss aircraft were certainly scrambled to intercept a number of errant Mossies, force them to land. I've not read of them having actually fired on them though, in most cases the Mossies were already damaged / having some kind of issue in the first place, which caused them to seek safety in Swiss airspace. Two uniquely-coded Mossies on the same day in one case, both from the same squadron, both with the squadron code incorrect (P3 instead of 3P), with one of them being so new the individual letter hadn't been painted on yet.

There are at least two incidents in which the Swiss engaged Allied fighters.  On 9/5/44, two Swiss Bf 109Es escorting a damaged B-17 was bounced by a USAAF P-51D, shooting down one of the Swiss Bf 109s (killing Swiss pilot P.Treu) and heavily damaging the second one.  Another incident occurred 5 days later on 9/10 when two Swiss C.35 were engaged by a USAAF P-51D, resulting in one Swiss C.35s and the P-51D being damaged.