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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: easymo on October 18, 2000, 02:08:00 PM
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Imagine a P51 armed like an F4U-c. This would be a 1 plane sim overnight. I know the game may have nothing to do with real life. But if it is even close, I have to wonder why they didn't arm the RL P51,s this way. Anybody know?
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because Y comes before Z
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JAMMING!!! I bet them hispanos jammed more than my tec-9!
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Yeager inadvertantly walks into this discussion, looks at the participants then quietly goes back out the way he came in....
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Yeager
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banana strolls up to the door, sees Yeager making a hasty exit, decides to join him on his way to the nearest bar. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Y ask Y?
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StSanta walks in, sees HBlair at the bar and decides to see if this time, he can get HBlair drunk enough to make him switch to Knightlandia
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Spotting yeager. Easymo wonders why he didn't take yet, another opportunity to whine about the 1C. Then returns to contemplating the nature of WW2 air combat.
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<Ripsnort walks up, after seeing Santa and Hblair stumble out of the bar, thwacks Hblair over the head rendering him unconscious, gets help from santa getting Hblair into the Knight Limo, and they race off towards Knightland!>
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Make sure you introduce him to a few of the "Knight Girls" too Rip....it will make him forget all about the sheep that those in Bishlandia are so fond of.
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Hblair wakes up in the limo with two strange fellas. 'How did I get here?' he wonders, as he kicks open the door, jumps out at highway speed. After rolling down the highway he notices compound fractures in both arms. He struggles over and jumps on a nearby train bound back to bishlandia.
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BTW. I'm guessing that with the talk of perk planes. This thread may become pertinent.
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Seeing hblair as he jumps on the train bound for bishlandia, Apache mounts his trusty steed and with a loud war cry leaps to the tracks as the train comes bearing down on him. The train conductor, being a knight sympathizer, immediately stops the train, just in time for Ripsnort & Santa to board the train and retake hblair back to knight land (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Out looking for his CO, hamish see's Apache, Ripsnort, and Santa's Kidnapping of his Leader, runs to the Bar and grab's Milenko and Eddiek, ambush's The knights while they are trying to figure out how to turn the train around, and throw Hb into a gooney bird, with Beautiful nurses to take care of him on our way back to Bishland. (Hoping HB takes a fancy to the girls and stays away from his families Sheep farm)
Hamish! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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eskimo walks in, is deservingly beaten sensless and stuffed into the bars freezer.
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eskimo
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"RAM, RAM, Hurry!!!!!"
"Pop some more corn, a bunch!!"
"This one is going to get better heheeeee!!"
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-------Udie walks in screaming, wheeeeeeres my fediddlein tekkilla damnit!? Whisch one of you fargin took my tekkilla! As he see's a Bishop C47 flying over a stopped train. vaguely remembers throwing up in the back of a C47 that looked to him like it was marked in Bishlandia markings.
Hey you train! Whaat did you do wifth my fediddlein tekilla?!?!
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hblair slips and falls into some putrid smelling mess while trying to get to the john in the back of the C47.
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Easymo...in answer to your initial question, I saw a post on this (or similar to this) a while back, and the answer had something to do with the army thinking the 50 cals were perfectly adequate as compared to the cannons, and were in better supply both in the guns themselves and the ammo. Either that or they were more heavily combat tested than the cannons.
Take all that and add about 40% +/- for accuracy, and I think that's the answer. You may also want to do a search for that post, but I'm not sure what words you'd search for. I think it was one of those "My .50s suck, but cannons are SuperDuper homing bullets" threads.
SOB
...if my memory is this bad at 25, what's it gonna be when I'm 50?!?
[This message has been edited by SOB (edited 10-18-2000).]
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i agree with easymo
the p51 4 cannon version has as much right to be in AH as the 4 cannon f4u.
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easymo..
They did arm RL p51s with 4 20mm (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
p51-IIa RAF. ill post info on it when i get home to my books (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Dog out..
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Hi
Ill get in trouble with this but maybe the RL Hispanos werent the all consuming death rays we have in here. But of course that couldnt be it! Right?
thanks GRUNHERZ
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Pongo walks in looks at the question on the board and his eyes light up...Just as he opens his mouth to start a long disertion, Pyro hits him high and Funked hits him low. Cave drags him off by a heal..still mumbling about the Hispano factory the germans captured in 1940...
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[This message has been edited by GRUNHERZ (edited 10-18-2000).]
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Hang walks in, looks around; see's likely course of discussion and goes in search of Hairball to assist in demonstrating relative weight/mass trajectory considerations.
Hairball is smarter than Hang; and has made arrangements to be someplace else when Hang looks.
Hang returns; sans cat, and buys a few beers; squeakes about .50's; bemoans lack of P51 Variants; gripes about Hairballs lack of aim when using the crapper (dammit; POINT THAT bellybutton IN THE HOLE, fer GAWDSAKES!) and generally makes himself very very annoying.
Nothin is accomplised.. except Hairball misses yet again.
Hang
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<Hands Hairball a bomb site for future assistance>
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I don't want another plane that dominates in such fashion as the cHog does now. Thank you, but no thanks.
Good Bye! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"Anyway, more golf..."
Humble
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Hunh. Just checked on Hairball.
Damndest thing... found a Norden sittin in there with a big stinkin turd on it.
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Jig walks in, with many pointing things sticking out of the front of his A-1. Everyone inside gives him a funny look, and assumes it was something from the local cat house and makes a note to ask him later about which one not to go to. Jig tries to keep a straight face, walking over the coke stove, and procedes stoke it and appears to put a lump of coal in it. He quickly shuts the door of the small heater and walks at a quickened pace out the door. Everyone looks at each other and either runs for the door or hits the deck.
Upon stepping outside Jig latchs the O-club door shut and runs like hell. Waiting a few seconds he recieves the satisfying BOOM POP POW BOOM of a handful of MkII AP hispano shells going off.
Jig remarks "That'll teach 'em to start another Hispano thread"
Upon walking back into the O-club, seeing only a crater where the stove had been, and the entire wall missing from the shack, he looks around at all the people holed up on the floor.
He yells "ALL CLEAR!" and is subsequently tackled, gagged, and hog tied Hangs P-51 while the furball revs the engine.
- Jig
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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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P-51 with 4x20mm Hispano cannon.
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-Ram walks to the kitchen, opens the cooler, and gets another six pack...be a looooooong show-
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Funny thread!
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Read an account of one of the first F4U-1C squadrons encountering enemy bombers at 20K- and none of their guns worked! Apparently all the Hispanos had frozen at 15K, and they had their ceiling suitably adjusted until warming jackets could be installed.
Seriously, the early 20mm jammed pretty often- the brownings jammed too, but hey, you had six of them... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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BTW, this might be a solution to all the "cannon whines" we hear...
Create a "cannon hangar" on every airfield. Knocking that hangar out will limit cannon ammo at that field. The planes still launch, but with no cannons. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Tongue-in-cheek, but it is a better solution than "get rid of this plane" (you pick the plane this week).
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Bring the Mustang Mk. Ia to Aces High!!!
A Polish squadron flew some of these. I can't wait for 308 Squad Night in cannon-stangs!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 10-19-2000).]
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Mav, flying his favorite F6F looks down and sees something that looks like it might be the old Doom popsicle club. Not having had his favorite libation lately he sets up his usual entrance. Mav rolls the "Cat" over and dives towards the street. He hits the trigger spraying 50 cals all along the center of the road in front of the club, later doing a high speed low alt flyby of the same.
After landing, Mav walks up to the door of the club and kicks the door open. He yells for the barkeep to set up 6 "flaming tails" (patent pending) on the bar. When the barkeep stutters that he doesn't know how to make them, Mav "gently" lowers the unconscious bartender to the floor and grabs a bottle of Cuervo Gold, 6 shot glasses and a box of matches.
Taking the materials over to an empty table, (in the back against the wall facing the front)Mav sets the makings down. He pours all 6 glasses full of the Gold and corks the bottle. Taking a single match, Mav lights all 6 of the shot glasses on fire and quickly tosses them back. After patting out the small blue flames on his mustache Mav tilts his chair back on 2 legs, pours another shot and waits to see what is going on in the bar and for a barmaid to pinch.
Mav
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... but rather than a barmaid's butt; Mav see next six smiling ensigns with fire extinguisers; who promptly douse Mav from head to foot...
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Mav sees the ensigns aproaching and wonders if he should pull out the sawed off Remington 870 from his cross the back holster. NAH, he thinks. If I shoot them they'll only keep gold bricking and we need all the nuggets we can get into maintenance. His Helcat likes a regular tune up.
Mav lets the chair tip forward and rather quickly rolls on the floor knocking the nuggets down. Picking them up 2 at a time Mav "lightly" taps their heads together and tosses them out the door. Once they are all neatly piled up in the street, Mav takes an extingusher and sprays the nuggets to help them wake up. They stagger to their feet and head off to the barracks for plenty of aspirin.
Mav walks back to the table, pours another "flaming tail" (Patent Pending) and has a seat to see what else is going to happen. Mayber there is a barmaid around here somewhere......
Mav
[This message has been edited by Maverick (edited 10-19-2000).]