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Special Events Forums => Scenario General => Topic started by: Brooke on August 23, 2006, 01:59:53 AM
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Folks, I've got about 1 week to line up 2 CO's for Battle of Britain 2006.
If you have played at least as a group leader or squadron leader in a previous scenario and would be willing to serve as CO -- which includes coming up with your side's strategy (or recruiting a team to do that for you), getting out mission orders to your side prior to each frame (or again, recruiting someone who will do that), recruiting good GL's, and so on -- please volunteer here or send e-mail to brooke@electraforge.com.
In your message, please let me know in which scenarios you played a leadership role and what that role was.
Scenarios need CO's. It is work, yes, but so is being a CM -- and CM's can't even have the fun of flying in the scenario. We do it because, without CM's, there would be no scenarios. Well, without CO's there would be no scenarios either. Please volunteer if you are willing to step up to the plate and help out.
If you aren't willing to volunteer but know of someone who would be a good CO, please suggest them here so that I can contact them.
I have only about a week to get this completed in order to keep this scenario on track.
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if noone else can do it i might be able to help. what exactly is envolved?
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provided im not busy, you might pencil me in for allied CO, i'll have to see ;)
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
provided im not busy, you might pencil me in for allied CO, i'll have to see ;)
:rofl You better not be busy if your going to Volunteer. It's like a 24/7 Job, but very fun, nervewracking, fun, thinking Stradegy 24/7. Oh and lets not leave out the Pressure. The Fate of 100+ people all depending on you to lead them to the promised land and make it fun.
Ah and the second guessing you do and start sweating that you made the wrong moves.
CO'in a Scenario is like divin into the deep end of the pool, and if ya never planned/CO'ed a snapshot, or CIC a frame in FSO, or even run a mission in the MA then this IMHO will be almost overwhelming,,,hell it's almost overwhelming with any of those under your belt.
You have to recruit, organize flights assign Flight leads and a command team, usually your flight leads. Ya have to get a good command team or your done. and don't forget planning and practice.
BUT.... don't get me wrong, with all that I absolutely LOVED it and have already volunteered to CO two more scenarios in the future.:aok
Also if a CM is on your side, don't assign them to important a task, they like to go awol from there post ughhum ROC.
It also helps to know alot of people in the game, makes it mucho easier.
But overall defenitly worth the effort.
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i've been playing for a while doobs, i think i could handle it.
what i'd really like to know is the whole plan thing. do CO's need to stick to a plan, or are they actually the CO for their side, trying any number of things to win for their side?
if the latter, im in, checked plans for september and so far im free every saturday at 8 :)
like i said, it's the first time i've done anything as big as this, so if anyone else wants to do it they can take it. if brooke is struggling to find people however, i'd be happy to help out.
brooke, any chance of you shedding some light on this in a little more detail?
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You need a full battle plan before you start frame 1. You need contingency plans in case certain events take place. You need to know everything you can in order to be able to adapt during the frame.
If, during the frame, you know you MUST have a full squadron in one sector to intercept bombers, but 1 hour in your squad is lost, down, or rearming, you need to be able to say "Okay then, squad X patrol there, when squad Y is done they'll go here".
The planning leads up to the frame, and the frame is the hectic execution of the plan. :)
I've had not-to-different experiences in another game. It can be great fun.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
i've been playing for a while doobs, i think i could handle it.
what i'd really like to know is the whole plan thing. do CO's need to stick to a plan, or are they actually the CO for their side, trying any number of things to win for their side?
like i said, it's the first time i've done anything as big as this, so if anyone else wants to do it they can take it. if brooke is struggling to find people however, i'd be happy to help out.
That's a great offer and I am sure its appreciated, however.. :)
Unless you have already been CO in an event or been a major part of the command staff on a previous event you will be out of your depth in taking the position.
And if your planning on flying and dogfighting, forget being the CO. You might be able to pilot a bomber or a rescue vehicle, but you cannot take up a fighter spot and run the whole show.
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Originally posted by Fencer51
And if your planning on flying and dogfighting, forget being the CO. You might be able to pilot a bomber or a rescue vehicle, but you cannot take up a fighter spot and run the whole show.
that's what i was worried about. i have however been a CO for side X several times in snapshots:aok
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Hey Biggles...
I dont think Doobs know who you are....
Make him play 20 questions to figure it out....
:D
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
i've been playing for a while doobs, i think i could handle it.
what i'd really like to know is the whole plan thing. do CO's need to stick to a plan, or are they actually the CO for their side, trying any number of things to win for their side?
if the latter, im in, checked plans for september and so far im free every saturday at 8 :)
like i said, it's the first time i've done anything as big as this, so if anyone else wants to do it they can take it. if brooke is struggling to find people however, i'd be happy to help out.
brooke, any chance of you shedding some light on this in a little more detail?
Poo -- uh, I mean, Biggles.
CO's can run it however they see fit within the framework of the rules.
The most-important qualities of a CO, in my opinion, are to be good at strategy or to recruit a staff that is good at strategy (as the CO or his staff are responsible for formulating your side's whole strategy), to appoint good group leaders (who can organize their pilots well and lead them well in combat to carry out the CO's in-combat orders as well as keep the CO informed of new developments), and to communicate well with your team (so that people are clear on what the goals and initial plan are and aren't wandering around, disorganized and ineffective, not knowing what they should do).
How you do these things is up to you.
There is one procedural thing that I very much hope that all CO's do, because I think it enhances the scenario experience for the players, making it a lot more immersive. That is: compose orders that are e-mailed out to your pilots at least a day or two prior to each frame.
These orders lay out at least:
-- who is in what group
-- who is the group leader of each group
-- radio channels for each group
-- initial takeoff field for each group
-- what aircraft each group initially takes off in
-- a brief description of what each group is to do initially after takeoff (such as, for bombers (if any), what their targets and perhaps flightpaths are; for escorting fighters (if any), who they are initially escorting and to where; for scouting fighters (if any), where they are to scout; for fighter-sweeps (if any), where they are to go initially -- things like that)
Some CO's make these orders very detailed. Some CO's make them much less detailed.
Again, what you do is up to you as CO -- you're the guy.
Orders are not meant to lay out every possibility and to be followed by rote no matter what. Upon contact with the enemy, parts of the orders get changed as you (the CO) give new orders to your groups and as your GL's react to what the enemy is doing. For example, orders might say that Fight A is to do close escort on some bomber group. Then, enemies are sighted by a scout coming in from some direction and maybe some screening fighters were already stripped away. You, the CO, might decide to give Flight A new orders: "Flight A, leave close escort and go intercept enemy fighters reported in 10,3,1" (or whatever). Then your flight leader for Flight A will take his guys and go do it, reporting back to you what they find or what happens. Maybe the CO decides also to have his bombers divert farther west because of this. Maybe he repositions other fighter groups or changes their orders based on what happens with Flight A. And so on.
The orders give people a sense of what they *initially* are to try accomplishing, and orders set up a more immersive atmosphere where pilots know the general goals and the initial strategy. They aren't at all meant to constrain the CO.
Here is an example of medium-detail orders:
http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/misc/aces_high/orders_frame2.txt
Here is how that frame actually went:
http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/stalins_fourth/frame2_aar.html
Here is an example of high-detail orders:
http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/rangoon42/Mission4Orders.htm
Here is how that frame actually went:
http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/rangoon42/frame4_aar.html
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Pilots Quick Ref Frame Two (http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/OPDF/Pilots%20Quick%20Reference%20%20FRAME%202.PDF)
I threw this togeather from the information on the BBS threads I thought it was useful, dont know about the other IJN pilots
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great ;)
if there are no objections, i'll be happy to be allied CO :)
are you still looking for an axis CO too brooke? when panzzer and I ran those missions in the first BoB RPS in the AvA, i think he organised the axis very well :) that is if he would like to do it of course :)
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Originally posted by mussie
Hey Biggles...
I dont think Doobs know who you are....
Make him play 20 questions to figure it out....
:D
nah, i wont be cruel ;)
it's pooface doobs, i've done plenty of this kind of stuff before, just not on such a large scale. dunno if many of you were there in the AvA that time we had the missions going? i know brooke was, and we had a lot of fun organising RAF patrols to intercept panzzer's buff raids :) was great fun, im hoping this scenario will be even bigger and better.
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Yeah I figured it out on Brooke's last post.
ya newb:p
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Originally posted by doobs
Yeah I figured it out on Brooke's last post.
ya newb:p
hehe :)
should be fun actually, lets hope for decent numbers and some great dogfights. very much looking forward to it :cool:
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"im hoping this scenario will be even bigger and better."
Me and kazaa are showing it already is ;)
Bruv
~S~
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Originally posted by Bruv119
"im hoping this scenario will be even bigger and better."
Me and kazaa are showing it already is ;)
Bruv
~S~
lol
you guys going to fly brit? (stupid question :D)
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I am pleased to announce our Commanding Officers for Battle of Britain 2006.
RAF CO: Major Biggles (formerly Pooface)
Luftwaffe CO: Krusty
General description is here (including the link to the rules):
http://ahevents.org/site/content/view/122/153/
Registration is now open here:
http://ahevents.org/site/component/option,com_staticxt/Itemid,165/
Gentlemen, we have a battle!
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RAF reporting in on loan from Japan via Jersey
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looks like we're on a roll now :D
time to get a couple of radar operators ... and prepare for the Axis invasion. :aok
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Vee vihl not be deterred! Britain vihl fahl und vee vill be fik-torious!
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Looking forward to flying a 110 with you Krusty...
I want the 110 because its the closest thing to my P38..
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Originally posted by Krusty
Vee vihl not be deterred! Britain vihl fahl und vee vill be fik-torious!
traitor!!! :D
GL, you're going to need it :p
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In for the Brits! I'm ready to follow Major Biggles to the end! A victorious end at that! :D
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(http://www.lsjunction.com/midi/smiley3.gif) (http://www.lsjunction.com/midi/smiley3.gif) (http://www.lsjunction.com/midi/smiley3.gif)
Bomben! Bomben! Bomben auf Engeland! (http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=418)
;)
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BlauK, will llv34 have a big showing for this one, do you know? It's early yet, but most folks seem to be signing up for the allies :lol the fools! :rofl
:aok
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9 of the of the so far registered 13 Axis players are Finns ;)
Many LLv34's and LLv32's and some other Finns also seem to be showing up :aok
Any idea what will be a size of a squadron/group/unit/whadevayacallem?
[edit:] 10 out of 14 ;) [/edit]
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dont worry krusty, you'll get plenty of guys, just hold up :) allies always get tons of registrations early on. i'm sure you'll get your 130 :)
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fear us,
Poles are in
why units size of LW and RAF are not equal? 6 vs 8-10?
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Originally posted by Nifty
In for the Brits! I'm ready to follow Major Biggles to the end! A victorious end at that! :D
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Uh oh... two mongrels on the Brits side?
yall want to surrender now? :lol
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Oi s'pose ewe'd raw-tha be out t' the bloody MOO-veez with somm giggly tart on yer arm faw-ning o'er evry WORD y'say!
Roight! .. Off'y'go then!
'Peice of Cake' 'e said them 109's were in France.
I'ma shoot me a Jerry or two methinks!
-GE (was in the very first BoB that AW had ..the folks in Britain played ..well ..the Brits .. and all the rest of us played the Dark Side .. I shot down two Spitfires in my Ju-88 *then* .. thinkin this will be fun too :)
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Originally posted by Grayeagle
Oi s'pose ewe'd raw-tha be out t' the bloody MOO-veez with somm giggly tart on yer arm faw-ning o'er evry WORD y'say!
Roight! .. Off'y'go then!
Well, I've got a book I'd like to finish...
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Originally posted by Krusty
Well, I've got a book I'd like to finish...
:rofl
love that scene
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Originally posted by ramzey
fear us,
Poles are in
why units size of LW and RAF are not equal? 6 vs 8-10?
to simulate history.....the LW flew in whole Gruppe (group) formations, consisting of 3 Staffel (squadron), or roughly 35 aircraft.
at the beginning of the Battle of Britain the largest coordinated flying unit the british put in the air was the 10 to 12 aircraft Squadron. they got smart towards the end with the "Big Wing" theory.
that's what i'm guessin' anyway. makes good sense.:)
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Don't forget the chores.
Checking for new guys who have joined the team. Adding them name by name to the forums, making email lists, creating squads, juggling personalities, the list goes on. Its not a simple thing...and by the time its over you are ready for it to be.