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Title: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 13, 2019, 07:48:49 PM
I had initially planned on getting this card
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 WINDFORCE OC 6G (GV-N1060WF2OC-6GD)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JNUO6BG/?tag=pcpapi-20
 
However. When I first looked at it it was like at least $75 cheaper. Even as a matter of principle if nothing else I cannot justify the current price tag of $354.21.

Anyone have any suggestions for a more rationally priced wallet friendly but quality card?
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: atlau on May 13, 2019, 10:37:20 PM
Are you ordering from outside the US? That's really expensive.

I follow this thread for some deals:
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/new

Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Bizman on May 14, 2019, 01:43:12 AM
I took a look at the link you provided, went one step back to all graphics cards, filtered by 6 GB and Nvidia GeForce, put a NJ post code in and found a bunch of cards starting from $200.

This one looks interesting: https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-Windforce-Gv-N1660GAMING-OC-6GD/dp/B07P689CXR/ref=sr_1_15?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1557815856&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A6066317011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_five_browse-bin%3A6147187011&rnid=6147185011&s=pc&sr=1-15 (https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-Windforce-Gv-N1660GAMING-OC-6GD/dp/B07P689CXR/ref=sr_1_15?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1557815856&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A6066317011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_five_browse-bin%3A6147187011&rnid=6147185011&s=pc&sr=1-15)
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: FBDragon on May 14, 2019, 02:28:44 AM
That price is more in the range of my RTX 2060 6gig card!!! :cheers: :salute
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 14, 2019, 11:40:02 PM
Any thoughts on any of these?...Other then price. LOL

EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti SC Ultra Gaming, 06G-P4-1667-KR, 6GB GDDR6, Dual Fan
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-Graphics-06G-P4-1261-KR/dp/B07RJGK1PW/?creativeASIN=B07N9XNC1B&linkCode=w61&imprToken=pH3F5T319e8QDafFxRZcbw&slotNum=4&tag=akshatblog198-20&th=1

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6G Graphics Card, 2X Windforce Fans, 6GB 192-bit GDDR5, Gv-N1660OC-6GD Video Card
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Graphics-Windforce-Gv-N1660OC-6GD/dp/B07P76G428/?creativeASIN=B07P76G428&linkCode=w61&imprToken=7-EAeDOv1p7-6YH9UNnSLg&slotNum=18&tag=akshatblog198-20

MSI Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 192-bit HDMI/DP 6GB GDRR6 HDCP Support DirectX 12 Dual Fan VR Ready OC Graphics Card (GTX 1660 TI Ventus XS 6G OC)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N824KNV/ref=dp_cerb_2

Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Bizman on May 15, 2019, 01:54:45 AM
You noticed that the EVGA and MSI are Ti versions which is slightly faster than the regular Gigabyte?

Also, the EVGA link opened a search result site instead of a product site, showing other brands and models as well. No big issue, actually vice versa since it shows the pricing variety for basically the same card of the same brand.

If, as it seems, a GTX1660 (Ti or not) is the one that fulfills your needs and fits your budget, I'd say that basically any of those or similar products from other big names should do. If you prefer one brand because of positive previous experience, there's no arguing against that. The following list (in no specific order) might help choosing:
Choosing the right one from within the variety of a single brand is a lot like choosing the right lure for the next fishing season. The fish don't know about fashion, it's all about fulfilling the dreams of the fishermen. It's the same with video cards. If you've got enough power to provide a stable high frame rate and a decent cooling to keep the card alive, adding a heat pipe or overclocking won't make you any better as a player.

Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: atlau on May 15, 2019, 02:00:20 AM
I've had good experiences with EVGA customer support wise. Depending on where you live you might be able to avoid sales tax and I think the ultra is slightly better than the SC version.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1461297-REG/evga_06g_p4_1267_kr_geforce_gtx_1660_ti.html
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Denniss on May 15, 2019, 03:11:14 AM
Try to get a 1070 or 1070Ti - the extra 2GiB of VRAM may help in certain games.
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 15, 2019, 06:37:12 AM
I've had good experiences with EVGA customer support wise. Depending on where you live you might be able to avoid sales tax and I think the ultra is slightly better than the SC version.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1461297-REG/evga_06g_p4_1267_kr_geforce_gtx_1660_ti.html

You see where I live, right? New Jersey
They LITERALLY just a month or two ago figured out a way to tax the rain here.
https://nj1015.com/murphy-signs-law-allowing-rain-tax-on-stormwater-runoff/

Avoiding death by any cause is easier then avoiding taxes here LOL


Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 15, 2019, 06:41:37 AM
Try to get a 1070 or 1070Ti - the extra 2GiB of VRAM may help in certain games.

$500+ for a video card? LOL Thats ok
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Meatwad on May 15, 2019, 08:01:52 AM
You see where I live, right? New Jersey
They LITERALLY just a month or two ago figured out a way to tax the rain here.
https://nj1015.com/murphy-signs-law-allowing-rain-tax-on-stormwater-runoff/

Avoiding death by any cause is easier then avoiding taxes here LOL

Illinois isnt too far behind on retarded tax law plans
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Denniss on May 16, 2019, 05:47:32 PM
$500+ for a video card? LOL Thats ok
Not at all. Several shops still have them for a cheap price to sell them off while others go in the opposite direction with the price.
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: atlau on May 16, 2019, 09:22:01 PM
2060s are available in the 350 range i believe. Performance on par with a 1070 to in most games
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: FBDragon on May 17, 2019, 03:11:05 AM
2060s are available in the 350 range i believe. Performance on par with a 1070 to in most games

Yup $358 for a good one!!! :cheers: :salute
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Denniss on May 17, 2019, 03:39:29 AM
$358 for a 6GB card would be a No-Go for me. For that much money I would like a card that doesn't need a reduction of texture quality in higher-end games.
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: atlau on May 17, 2019, 05:50:25 AM
Aren't the 1070s still quite more expensive since they have a limited quantity left in stock to sell?
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Max on May 17, 2019, 07:02:02 AM
I jumped on the EVGA GTX 1660 Ti...most due to the $279 price tag. Amazon indicates a shipping delay of up to a month.

Next step is a move to a 32" monitor. Any recommendations in the >$350 price range that will best utilize the GPU's horsepower?
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Bizman on May 17, 2019, 12:20:47 PM
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Any recommendations in the >$350 price range that will best utilize the GPU's horsepower?

If you stick at 60 Hz, choose a 1440p. With AH you shouldn't get too much punishment by 144 Hz on a 1080p monitor. Combining the two, i.e. 144 Hz on a 1440p might be too much for many games at best quality. For AH you might even want to give that a try especially if you can reduce the speed to 120 Hz if needed.
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: ACE on May 17, 2019, 01:33:20 PM
Just for reference I have a 1060 6GB and on my 144hz monitor I get 180 FPS on AH but other games like CSGO I get 120~
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Gooss on May 19, 2019, 10:20:27 AM
<S> Dred,

My 1060 3gb runs the game very well.  Quick check of Amazon shows less than $230.
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Max on May 19, 2019, 11:17:27 AM
Combining the two, i.e. 144 Hz on a 1440p might be too much for many games at best quality. For AH you might even want to give that a try especially if you can reduce the speed to 120 Hz if needed.

How does one do that?
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Bizman on May 19, 2019, 11:46:30 AM
How does one do that?
I suppose you meant reducing the speed instead of how to combine 144 Hz with 4k.

If so, it can be done in the Windows monitor settings. This tutorial tells how to make an 144 Hz monitor run at that speed instead of 60 Hz, but obviously you can choose any speed in between. A similar setting can be found in the Nvidia control panel as well so most likely there's a drop down menu also in the AMD controls. Just set the maximum speed you want.
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Pudgie on May 19, 2019, 02:17:14 PM
I suppose you meant reducing the speed instead of how to combine 144 Hz with 4k.

If so, it can be done in the Windows monitor settings. This tutorial tells how to make an 144 Hz monitor run at that speed instead of 60 Hz, but obviously you can choose any speed in between. A similar setting can be found in the Nvidia control panel as well so most likely there's a drop down menu also in the AMD controls. Just set the maximum speed you want.

As to AMD, the in driver settings for monitor Hz (60, 90, 120,144, etc) has been absent since the new Radeon Settings control panel and maybe since the last iteration of the old CCC as well. This is set in Windows only if using AMD Radeon Settings. You can set monitor resolution settings (1920 x 1080, 2560 x 1440, 3820 x 2160, etc) in Radeon Settings, but not monitor Hz.

Hope this helps.

PS....If you have access to the monitor's control panel you can set both the monitor's resolution and Hz from there and Windows should recognize it.....

 :salute
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Chalenge on May 19, 2019, 05:37:27 PM
As to AMD, the in driver settings for monitor Hz (60, 90, 120,144, etc) has been absent since the new Radeon Settings control panel and maybe since the last iteration of the old CCC as well. This is set in Windows only if using AMD Radeon Settings. You can set monitor resolution settings (1920 x 1080, 2560 x 1440, 3820 x 2160, etc) in Radeon Settings, but not monitor Hz.

Hope this helps.

PS....If you have access to the monitor's control panel you can set both the monitor's resolution and Hz from there and Windows should recognize it.....

 :salute

I think it never is unless you have drivers loaded for the specific monitor. The Generic PnP drivers give you nothing about frame rate.
Title: Re: alternative Vid card suggestions?
Post by: Pudgie on May 22, 2019, 11:54:52 AM
I think it never is unless you have drivers loaded for the specific monitor. The Generic PnP drivers give you nothing about frame rate.

Yes that's true but I do have the specific monitor drivers loaded for my Asus MG279Q monitor (have always been the case) and I've never found the monitor Hz settings present in Radeon Settings Display tab since inception and I don't remember seeing them present as well in the last iteration of the old AMD CCC control panel. They do not exist in AMD's Radeon Settings software.

I do have an update on the presence of the monitor resolutions settings in Radeon Settings.....unless you enable the "Custom Resolutions" setting under the Display tab you won't have access to monitor resolution settings either in Radeon Settings....w\ Radeon Settings all monitor resolution and Hz settings are done in either Windows OS, ingame or in your monitor's control panel unless you enable the Custom Resolutions setting in Radeon Settings.

Provided below is a snippet of the AMD Radeon Settings software's Display tab...…………………….

Please note the ID of my monitor make and brand in upper left corner showing that the monitor specific drivers are installed.

Hope this helps.

 :salute