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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: bangsbox on December 10, 2014, 09:03:57 AM

Title: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: bangsbox on December 10, 2014, 09:03:57 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/wxZKooC.jpg)
Title: Re: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 10, 2014, 06:39:46 PM: I didn't think the Sherman was powerful enough to penetrate the front armor of a StuG. Here is a photo of a StuG that took two shots from a Sherman (746th Tank Battalion) outside of St. Mere-Eglise.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8204/8225074680_15eb4bbdf9_z.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2r8n0FsNg1qg5z8jo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: colmbo on December 10, 2014, 07:34:47 PM: Quote from: Ack-Ack on December 10, 2014, 06:39:46 PM
I didn't think the Sherman was powerful enough to penetrate the front armor of a StuG. Here is a photo of a StuG that took two shots from a Sherman (746th Tank Battalion) outside of St. Mere-Eglise.

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Title: Re: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: Chalenge on December 11, 2014, 12:57:59 AM: Usually takes 10-15 AP (penetrating) hits at that range in AH for me.
Title: Re: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 11, 2014, 01:24:35 AM: I wonder what the range was, had to have been close. Also wonder if it was a 76mm Sherman, as opposed to a 75mm one.
Title: Re: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: DEECONX on December 11, 2014, 09:23:44 AM: Quote from: Ack-Ack on December 11, 2014, 01:24:35 AM
I wonder what the range was, had to have been close. Also wonder if it was a 76mm Sherman, as opposed to a 75mm one.

Also, what exactly would be "the front" ? The one section where the two shots landed? What about just above that, all that space around the gun? Is the armor the same thickness their too?
Title: Re: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: Denniss on December 12, 2014, 12:59:24 PM: Second image looks more like a StuH42, a StuG with 105mm artillery. Frontal armor on superstructure was 8cm as well.
Immense damage caused by cooked-off ammo, mostly HE rounds with lots of propellant.
Anothr hit is seen on the tracks and one in muzzle brake
Title: Re: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: Mister Fork on December 12, 2014, 02:18:19 PM: Quote from: Denniss on December 12, 2014, 12:59:24 PM
Second image looks more like a StuH42, a StuG with 105mm artillery. Frontal armor on superstructure was 8cm as well.
Immense damage caused by cooked-off ammo, mostly HE rounds with lots of propellant.
Anothr hit is seen on the tracks and one in muzzle brake
If something hit the muzzle brake and fragments travelled down into the barrel it could of caused any loaded round to go off which would of resulted in an internal fire and explosion. Hence why the rear was peeled back and the huge hole front right.
Title: Re: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: pembquist on December 12, 2014, 02:53:38 PM: Can someone explain the grid like pattern on the front of the Stug?
Title: Re: Sherman vs stug!....no one wins
Post by: Lusche on December 12, 2014, 03:02:04 PM: Quote from: pembquist on December 12, 2014, 02:53:38 PM
Can someone explain the grid like pattern on the front of the Stug?

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