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General Forums => Open Beta Test => Topic started by: MrSlim on September 03, 2016, 01:13:02 AM
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Notice the past few weeks the player count in AHII arena is a lot lower than it used to be. So I finally got around to downloading the AHIII version to give it a try.
My frame rate is 5 :mad:
In AHII it is 60. Guess I wont be playing AHIII.
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Instead of throwing your hands up in the air and giving up, why not post your DXDiag and your system specs? It could be that your system isn't up to snuff for AH3 or maybe something as simple as updating your drivers.
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Or even simpler, that pesky Environment slider!
Seriously though, post a dxdiag and double check your current graphics settings in AHIII.
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60fps on AH2 and 5fps on AH3? :noid
There has to be a problem somewhere and we can probably help.
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Not really ready to pound my head against the wall to get this game to work. But ran the diagnositc
System Information
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Time of this report: 9/3/2016, 01:58:59
Machine name:
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.160408-2045)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: DX4860
BIOS: BIOS Date: 10/31/11 10:13:44 Ver: 04.06.04
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8172MB RAM
Page File: 4118MB used, 12224MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
NVIDa Geforce GT610
Approx Total Memory 4049 MG
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OK that explains it, your CPU is pretty decent but your videocard is not powerful enough for AHIII, or any modern game. The good news is that if you want to, you should be able to upgrade, the limiting factor being the form factor of your gateway computer case.
Hope that helps :salute
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If this is his machine then he should have no problems finding a card that fits it
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjI0WDYyNA==/z/tGAAAOSwAYtWLWPR/$_58.JPG)
Though unless it has something to do with being 64 bit I still think that with some adjustments he should be able to run with what he has. Im running it fine on a lessor machine
The only time I has problems was the other night with everything maxed out I tried strafing a field. then rates dropped into the single digits
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Im running it fine on a lessor machine
Really? The video card Mr Slim has scores only 358 on http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/midlow_range_gpus.html (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/midlow_range_gpus.html) while the baseline (=absolutishly minimum) 9800 GTX scores 899 on the High Midrange page. Radeon and GeForce cards scoring 3000 and above should be more or less playable depending on what you wish. The other cards are mostly aimed for professional graphics instead of gaming.
Other than the video card the computer is fine. For a video card upgrade the cheapest way would be to get a card that doesn't need an extra power cord. At the moment it seems that Asus GTX 950 75W would be the most powerful card to get all of its power through the PCI-e slot. Upgrading the power supply would allow for an unlimited variety.
CAUTION: Before buying a video card, check that the computer really has a PCI-e slot. I've seen some motherboards in budget computers that only have an integrated video chip and a row of golden dots where the slot should be.
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I run a 670, while not a "top of the line" card it does get the job done with about everything turned on, very playable with great eye candy. Ebay has some, this one is $99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-670-OC-2GB-GDDR5-2DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-Video-/302060226491
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On the start-up screen, it show 32fps but when I clik on an arena button and go into an an arena, it drops to 5. My machine isnt THAT old where it should be such a drastic difference between AHII (60fps) and AHIII (5fps). :mad:
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slim you can buy a computer today that wont be able to play ah3 or 2. it's your vc that needs to upgrade.
semp
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On the start-up screen, it show 32fps but when I clik on an arena button and go into an an arena, it drops to 5. My machine isnt THAT old where it should be such a drastic difference between AHII (60fps) and AHIII (5fps). :mad:
AH2 uses the CPU for almost everything, AH3 switches all of the Graphics work to the Graphics card.
So you have a good CPU which runs AH2 fine, but when you switch to AH3 your graphics card which isn't very good has a problem running it. Its all in how the game is run on the computer.
In your case, when you first start the game, before you log in click on video settings. In there adjust your texture size down to 256 or 512, click ok THEN log in to see how it effected the FR. Once in the game, you can go to the ADVANCED graphics settign and turn off post lighting and anything else you need to up your FR.
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On the start-up screen, it show 32fps but when I clik on an arena button and go into an an arena, it drops to 5. My machine isnt THAT old where it should be such a drastic difference between AHII (60fps) and AHIII (5fps). :mad:
Try moving your environment slider to 0 and making sure "disable post lighting" is checked.
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On the start-up screen, it show 32fps but when I clik on an arena button and go into an an arena, it drops to 5. My machine isnt THAT old where it should be such a drastic difference between AHII (60fps) and AHIII (5fps). :mad:
Age has bearing on this. Your machine new was a budget machine. Pay just a little more and get a lot.
It should work fine with a vid card upgrade.
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Thanks for all the input.
I guess I'll stick with AHII for the month (number of players in that arena are getting lower and lower) and then call it quits until I'm ready to get a new system. :cheers:
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Thanks for all the input.
I guess I'll stick with AHII for the month (number of players in that arena are getting lower and lower) and then call it quits until I'm ready to get a new system. :cheers:
Seriously. If you get a card you will be good to go. If you get a card that requires a power upgrade, I have a power supply I will GIVE you to run your new card. I have a 970 W, in box, never used gaming power supply.
If you go the route of a new vid card and need the power supply, send me a PM.
If you go, sorry to see you go...
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Thanks for the offer Slip :salute but I don't play it enough anymore to go thru all that trouble. I have quit and come back several times over the years -each time with a different screen name - :evil:
It's good to take a break every now-and-then.
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Thanks for the offer Slip :salute but I don't play it enough anymore to go thru all that trouble. I have quit and come back several times over the years -each time with a different screen name - :evil:
It's good to take a break every now-and-then.
Heya Slim -
I had similar performance issues moving from AH2 to AH3 and bought a geforce GTX 1060 card, and now am running AH3 at max settings at 60 FPS. Interestingly, AH2 at max settings runs at 30 FPS with the new card, so the comment about moving the processing work from CPU to video card is spot on.
Therefore, investing in a new video card should do the trick. It's expensive, but it's a quick, easy fix.
Doesn't solve the annoying ENY issue though. ;-)
:salute
Mutha
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Running a win 7 64 bit machine with a GT535 card. Pretty much what you have. While I do need an upgrade also I Have 35-45 fr not great but allowed me to kill dozens last night in AH3.
Like most have said tweak the graphics, environment slider to 0, disable most advanced options you should be able to play ah3 but like me you will be begging for more.
After playing AH3 I cant go back to 2. :eek:
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Seriously, MrSlim, the only part in your computer that isn't AH3 compatible is the video card. AH2 has been utterly kind to people using home office level computers, AH3 moves the focus to graphics which means it should be run on a gaming computer. Fortunately HTC hasn't taken that to the highest limits, AH3 can't be used for benchmarking the latest rigs unlike some other novelty games have done during the years. An eight year old computer with a five years old video card do just fine.
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If you don't feel comfortable putting in a new video card, many places like Best Buy will install it for you and change out your power supply to a bigger one for a very modest fee. It only takes an experienced tech 5 min to install both items. Then he needs to uninstall your current video card drivers and install new ones. Another 5 minutes. The graphics in AH3 are way better than AH2, even at very low settings.
Good luck
:salute
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I went in and disabled everything and turned all the settings to zero. Frame rate is now 16 :banana: LOL
Mano, I understand what you are saying. I can change out the video card myself, but I don't want to have to put in a new power supply also all just to play a game.
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Slim, as I said before there's decent cards available that don't necessarily need a new power supply. The Asus I mentioned needs a 350W supply and no extra power connectors.
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I installed this card - GTX 750Ti 2GB GDDR5 (02G-P4-3751-KR) It was $119 online from Walmart. My power supply is only 300W and it runs fine. Frame rates went from around 12 to the higher 40s - low 50s.
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I went in and disabled everything and turned all the settings to zero. Frame rate is now 16 :banana: LOL
Mano, I understand what you are saying. I can change out the video card myself, but I don't want to have to put in a new power supply also all just to play a game.
Slim I had the same problem, no way to install a power supply with the right motherboard connectors and only have a 320 watt PS. Put in an EVGA gtx750TI SC card which needs no new PS and it runs AH3 at 60fps no problem. Card runs from $50 used to $119 new. Was worth it to me.
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BEST ANSWER.
Slim I had the same problem, no way to install a power supply with the right motherboard connectors and only have a 320 watt PS. Put in an EVGA gtx750TI SC card which needs no new PS and it runs AH3 at 60fps no problem. Card runs from $50 used to $119 new. Was worth it to me.
There are probably other cards and bargain prices. I am not sure but seems like Radeon had something similar that another player was very happy with during beta testing. The bottom line is, GPU and dedicated "fast" memory types are becoming more and more a necessity for gaming. HTC has always been able to deliver loads of bonuses that other in genre have not that I have run on old bits and pieces that I have been able to pick up along the way.