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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Fester' on October 04, 2001, 12:44:00 AM
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got my new athalon tbird computer from the so called discount place
so far I have been given the following crappy gear instead of what I asked and paid for:
athalon tb1.4 200mhz fsb instead of athalon 1.4 tb 266mhz fsb
asus a7m266 with onboard sound instead of a7v266 without onboard sound
no name brand geforce 2 mx200 w 64mb sdram instead of geforce 2 ultra 64ddr
I asked for a refund and the web site sayz its a 15% restocking fee!! fuking asshols! im never using pricewatch.com again
[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Fester' ]
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add to that my old p3 550 runs nearly as fast as this piece of toejam
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did you add the 4in1 drivers ?
if not the low perf are not surprising ...
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i did
the reason 200mhz fsb is so bad on the cpu is the a7m266 mobo runs in synchronous mode only. so the 266mhz pc2100 memory also only runs at 200mhz.
its FUBAR!
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With a GF2 Mx, that's going to be true in games. :(
Who was it you dealt with? They really messed up bad.
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What's their website/email address?
Looks like its time for some spamming...
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http://www.zonysystems.com (http://www.zonysystems.com)
i hope they burn in hell
and get this... they want not 15% restock fee like web says but 25%!!!!!!
mother $#@!$#@
[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Fester' ]
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"hello may i talk to the sales rep who sold me my computer? his name is carlos.
carlos? there is no one named carlos who works here.
then who did I place my order with?
let me check, carlos, hmm well I am carlos but i dont remeber this order..."
the bbb is gonna hear about this one
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just discovered some more nice stuff about this machine. the power supply is a generic 300 watt POS.
heres another quote...
"does this computer come with an Enlight amd aproved power supply?
yes
cool do you use enlight in all your stuff? place where I live does the same thing, best power supplies made for sure
yes exactly"
what are these people thinking?
that no one ever opens up their pc and looks inside?
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Well bud, time to get a Layer isn't it ?
I am not sure how it goes on the other side of the pond, but I am sure that here, you have to sell what you advertised for, or are subject to legal actions...
The 15/25% they're asking is a disgrace, It's not a matter that you changed your mind about the article you bought, the article you bought is simply NOT what you asked for in the 1st place.
Sue (sp?) their arse !
(anyone remember the 50 pound Sony TV's at 'Argos' in UK ? heh...)
[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Saintaw ]
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Dunno how it's handled in the states but as you did not recieve what was ordered the answer is quick : say to your bank that you didn't recieved the correct parts and they will kick their a** asap (provided it's an order with credit card).
It's a standard feature here ...
In france I would do :
Go to the local customer association ...
Ask for an "assignation en référé" (no lawer no cost and judgement in the 2 hours)
I hope you will solve your problem quickly ...
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I over reacted on the CPU
it is indeed 266mhz fsb not 200
if i understand right external clock speed of 133mhz is what should be reading?
200mhz fsb would read 100mhz external clock speed yes?
im still pissed about vid card, power supply and motherboard though
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Did you pay with your credit card? If so, call them up and say that you want to cancel the payment because you did not received the goods you actually paid for (them sending you a computer instead of thecomputer you wanted) In the UK it's the credit card company's responsibility to act as a buffer between customer and supplier, ie if you received not at all what you ordered, they'll simply charge it back to your supplier and then it's the supplier's problem to get payment/goods back.
Having orders in writing confirming the configuration helps too... I suspect the bastards are counting on the fact that most of the population is totally computer-stupid and wouldn't even dare opening the box leave alone knowing the difference between a7m266 and a7v266...
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Cit A7M266 is still one of the best mobos for Athlon and I'm more than pleased for my A7M266.
Actually it costs more than A7V266 in shop I'm using.
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rgr staga.
I called them just a bit ago.
they agreed to replace the mother board with an a7v266
and they agreed to refund the price of the video card they gave me (their price for ddr 64 g2 ultra is to high) so im buying gf3 on my own and using my gf2 mx400 64 till i get it.
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Read this post for a startup on bios setting (if you nee it :))
http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=000671 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=000671)
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Folks, you get what you pay for.
If you find the lowest possible price for all your gear, you know they cut costs big time to get you that price. You have to expect that kind of thing.
I deal with a local shop that has reasonable and competitive prices and some sharp people working there. I don't always get the lowest price around, but I always get great service. That's worth something, and it doesn't come for free.
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www.pricewatch.com (http://www.pricewatch.com) is a good site, but you have to be really careful about who you buy from.
Cit, send an email to pricewatch about the problems. Pricewatch usually pulls sites from thier WEB site if they are not reputable.
I have been successful at getting them to pull a few sites in the past. I now have a list of good suppliers I buy from.
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Personally I've had good luck on Pricewatch.
However you do have to go over everything with a fine toothed comb.
I've had good luck with www.bunta.com (http://www.bunta.com) and www.samscomputersonline.com/config.asp (http://www.samscomputersonline.com/config.asp) switched CPU coolers on me but otherwise has been good.
Skuzzy, I don't suppose you'd share that list of good suppliers? :)
[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Ghosth ]
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I too have had good luck on pricewatch. At the same time though I knew what I wanted and what to look for. There sometimes exist products that perform a little slower or have less functionality than the original design and this is what you have to watch out for. Always make sure that you print out all the related documentation available so that you can compare it with whats being sold in order to make sure you are getting what you really want.
It's true that we as consumers shouldn't have to be as carefull as a blindman disarming a nuclear weapon but it's becoming a fact of "online shopping". Just be cautious make sure that what is being shipped to you is what you want. At least they got most of it. :D
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Been building my own compu's since 8 years now. I never by a "complete system". I put together a configuration and start buying the goods seperately. I also don't shop online for computer articles, I go to the shops and inspect the goods first and pay cash in the store.
The only time I went back to a shop was when one of the items malfunctioned.
It requires some research on the best configuration I can buy for the money I want to spent but it's well worth it.
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I would suggest after chosing a seller on pricewatch, check their ratings at www.resellerratings.com (http://www.resellerratings.com)
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They should not charge you the 15% if they shipped you the wrong card!
Your MBD is ok (hey its the same one I have!).
A tip with the A7M266: Remove the V101 jumper so your RAM is not OC'd (it is on 2.7V instead of 2.5V by default, even if the manual says otherwise). Disable sound card both in jumper and BIOS (if you have your own sound card though. Onboard sound is of good quality anyway. Use the 1.4 bios and the VIA 4 in 1 drivers. Its a good MBD, and its compatible with the coming Palominos (the A7V isnt I think).
If you need BIOS settings Fester, I can take my digital camera and snap my A7M266's settings for you. And yes it should read 133 AND turbo mode should be on (otherwise it will say 1050mhz when it boots, not 1400mhz ;) )
Keep the A7M266, its a Great Mobo! Put 2X256mb sticks of 2100 CRUCIAL DDR-RAM on it and it will blow! :) :D
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I'm like Apar, I use pricewatch extensively to build my own systems and many for my friends.
But I have never ordered a complete system, I order the specific parts, usually from different distributors since your charged shipping by the part, so its cost effective to go with one of the cheaper priced distributors for each part.
That way if you do get a bum company that tries to screw you, you never have a huge loss, and its easier to prove to the CC company that they didn't send you what you ordered if you keep documentation and you ordered one specific part.
Good Luck Fester, I hope you get things worked out. I would suggest calling your CC company if they start trying to charge you a restocking fee in this situation.
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Tac I took out VIO1 jumper from my mobo but had to put it back 'cause it become unstable in 144MHz bus-speed.
With jumper it runs like a dream @1,51GHz :)
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rgr
I need best settings for the vio and vio1 jumpers
i put them on the default settings of 3.3 volts and 2.5 volts and comp is slow
I also need the 4 in 1 driver set if anyone has it :)
and I need to get a new version of windows (i have full version of win98 1st edition only) because the a7m266 dosnt recognize inputs from usb j/s even though it recognizes j/s and the patch to fix the problem says "this patch is not made for your version of windows" grrr.
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AMD drivers: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_2336,00.html (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_2336,00.html)
Good place for Via drivers: http://www.viahardware.com/download/index.shtm (http://www.viahardware.com/download/index.shtm)
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http://www.resellerratings.com (http://www.resellerratings.com)
Go there the next time. I choose only those who are 4.5 and above.
Some good ones:
tcwo.com
essencompu.com
axiontech.com
i-market.com
atacom.com
kdcomputers.com
jazztechnology.com