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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Max on October 21, 2021, 08:08:02 AM
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Windows updates informs me that Win 11 is available for immediate download. Thought I'd ask if anyone's done so yet and if there were any glitches to be aware of. Thanks. :pray :salute
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I've got it on a laptop at home. I haven't used it much but haven't run into any problems. I don't expect there to be many issues, but I'm also not in a rush to put it onto any of my computers I use daily.
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Windows Update on my computer tells that "This PC doesn't currently meet all the system requirements for Windows 11..." . After some update it even says it in English, I recall the first announcement having been in Finnish. Anyhow, I wonder if this system will ever meet the requirements so I haven't bothered to run the troubleshooter to find out what I could do. After all hardware changes to make this system compatible "this PC" would be a totally different one! But it's not the first time that Microsoft leaves a back door or three open. Being vague enough may have saved them from many lawsuits!
Guess I'll wait for another four years until 11 has matured to the same stage where 10 is now.
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Does it tell you why? Originally my laptop said the same, but after I did Windows 10 updates it allowed me to go to 11.
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No it doesn't. For what I've read elsewhere the requirement would be an Intel i#-8###, the 8th gen. processor or the AMD equivalent. Mine is a 4th gen i7 so I thought I'd let it be. But now you've made me curious, guess I'll run the troubleshooter!
Update: I downloaded and ran the Health Check program and it had two yellow balls marked ! and one red with an X. The exclamation marks were: First I'd have to enable Secure Boot in the Bios settings - don't know if it's possible with this motherboard... Second, TPM 2.0 should be supported and activated, in the comment it read that no TPM was found! And finally the X in the red ball: The CPU isn't currently supported. Looking at the list of supported processors I found out that the 5th generation is supported so I'm only one gen. behind! So they seem to want older computers upgraded as well.
Thanks, something new learned... Yet I'll stick with 10 for at least some years.
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The laptop I have it installed on has a 6th Gen. It originally told me no-go because I didn't have TPM 2.0, but after the updates it let it go even though the laptop only has TPM 1.2. I know there was some backlash surrounding that requirement and there were some TPM workarounds, but I didn't have to do any of that...it just worked, strangely.
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Check for firmware updates too.
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I updated my main machine just to see how everything looks. All I had to do was turn on TPM. Smooth as silk upgrading and it allows you 10 days to go back if you want to. Other than that... not much to really upgrade for at this point. Looks are a little different. A couple of things are gone that were in 10. More things supporting gaming.
If you can't run 11 it is not anything to go run down and buy a computer over. Windows 10 will be supported for quite awhile still. You really are not missing anything.
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If you can't run 11 it is not anything to go run down and buy a computer over. Windows 10 will be supported for quite awhile still. You really are not missing anything.
Exactly my point.
For those who don't know, Microsoft has a three stage testing program for their software: First there's Alpha which is done by MS people. Second there's Beta which allows enthuastic users participate in the development process. And finally, there's Release with a lot of hype and persuation, including the built-in phone home systems trying to tell MS whether the new system works or not in a particular setup of hardware. Early adopters are free guinea pigs.
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Despite running the Microsoft software that determines if your rig is Win 11 compatible, and getting a go, the OS failed to install do to a missing current driver named CFosSpeed. It appears anyone with ASUS or MSI mobos are having issues.
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Exactly my point.
For those who don't know, Microsoft has a three stage testing program for their software: First there's Alpha which is done by MS people. Second there's Beta which allows enthuastic users participate in the development process. And finally, there's Release with a lot of hype and persuation, including the built-in phone home systems trying to tell MS whether the new system works or not in a particular setup of hardware. Early adopters are free guinea pigs.
Well that's how any software development generally works. There is no way to test every single hardware configuration besides releasing it to the masses and doing hotfixes.
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Got it no problems, Windows Insider program.
i9-10850k@4.7GHz RTX3080
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Well that's how any software development generally works. There is no way to test every single hardware configuration besides releasing it to the masses and doing hotfixes.
Tru dat, however there's not many as widespread software as Windows is.
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Got it no problems, Windows Insider program.
i9-10850k@4.7GHz RTX3080
Well here is a typical setup to judge all others against...lol
Eagler
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From past experience every second Windoze version is bad.
Plus one should never Betatest such kind of software upon release, wait for the first Servicepack to fix the most apparent issues.
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Windows 10 will be supported for quite awhile still. You really are not missing anything.
Yeah NO KIDDING!!!
I will always give mad props to Microsoft for creating such a smart and intelligent giant as my Windows 10pro!!!
Its funny that almost every time I turn on/shut down windows 10 I am more than amazed at how smart and intelligent this Monster has become!!!
Whats even more funny and I get a lotta sad when I think about what a pig headed fool I was to stick with windows 7 for 15+ years before making the "Plunge"; yeah right! to windows 10
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Whats even more funny and I get a lotta sad when I think about what a pig headed fool I was to stick with windows 7 for 15+ years before making the "Plunge"; yeah right! to windows 10
Nothing to get sad about. You could have made the plunge a few years earlier but better late than never. Every operating system has teething issues which are usually fixed in future major updates. Looking back at the versions of 10 (we're on the 13th version now) I can see a lot of clumsiness in the earlier versions. As the latest version updates have been quite small it might be safe to assume that they don't try to reinvent the wheel for Win10 during the last four years. By then Win 11 may have matured to the solidness we've learned to like in 10 - given they continue their policy of the lifespan being roughly a decade.
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Plus one should never Betatest such kind of software upon release, wait for the first Servicepack to fix the most apparent issues.
Someone's gotta do it. ;)
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Why would you be part of testing a new operating system if you did not have to be?
Software can only be QA'd so many ways before it has to be released for the rest of the defects to be discovered by the innumerable hardware and software combinations used by its users..
I suspect windows 11 is at that point now
Eagler
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Got it no problems, Windows Insider program.
i9-10850k@4.7GHz RTX3080
Should have posted mine....
Gigabyte Z490 Ultra AORUS
i9-10900K
128 gig Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600
MSI RTX 2080 Super
It is not called TPM on this board but does the same thing.
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Yesterday I went through the settings of a new(ish) gaming laptop upgraded to Win11. First time for me, until now I had only seen pictures of the desktop of it.
The customer said it works fine which is no wonder since the system was only half a year old and made by a big name, meaning that most likely a similar one has been used for beta testing for compatibility.
What I disliked was the layout. Why on Earth did they have to try to reinvent the wheel by copying Apple and some Linux distros??? Isn't Windows the leading OS that others should copy? Moving the Taskbar to cover one third of the bottom center of the screen made me look for the Start menu icon several times - not something one could not learn but after having taught people to look at the bottom left corner for a couple of decades I guess there'll be plenty of us who look at the wrong place and the less technically skilled will be confused. Then again especially with ultra wide monitors the start menu in the middle of the screen is more ergonomic. By visiting the shops and looking at the ads that would be a moot point though as the mainstream they're currently selling at least here seems to be 14" laptops for students.
Another less fancy improvement in my opinion is that they brought back the small "Show all programs" button to the start menu. Most likely just because the new menu is relatively small, half of it being populated by recently used files.
Oh well, I should not complain as it will bring me lots of work, trying to tweak the systems to vaguely resemble something a slowly dementing mind can understand.
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Should have posted mine....
Gigabyte Z490 Ultra AORUS
i9-10900K
128 gig Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600
MSI RTX 2080 Super
It is not called TPM on this board but does the same thing.
Why aren't you in ah in vr with that rig?
Eagler
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Yesterday I went through the settings of a new(ish) gaming laptop upgraded to Win11. First time for me, until now I had only seen pictures of the desktop of it.
The customer said it works fine which is no wonder since the system was only half a year old and made by a big name, meaning that most likely a similar one has been used for beta testing for compatibility.
What I disliked was the layout. Why on Earth did they have to try to reinvent the wheel by copying Apple and some Linux distros??? Isn't Windows the leading OS that others should copy? Moving the Taskbar to cover one third of the bottom center of the screen made me look for the Start menu icon several times - not something one could not learn but after having taught people to look at the bottom left corner for a couple of decades I guess there'll be plenty of us who look at the wrong place and the less technically skilled will be confused. Then again especially with ultra wide monitors the start menu in the middle of the screen is more ergonomic. By visiting the shops and looking at the ads that would be a moot point though as the mainstream they're currently selling at least here seems to be 14" laptops for students.
Another less fancy improvement in my opinion is that they brought back the small "Show all programs" button to the start menu. Most likely just because the new menu is relatively small, half of it being populated by recently used files.
Oh well, I should not complain as it will bring me lots of work, trying to tweak the systems to vaguely resemble something a slowly dementing mind can understand.
The start can be moved back in it's "proper place". I agree.... why copy anyone else...
Why aren't you in ah in vr with that rig?
Eagler
The freeze happened the month after I built this machine. Drained pipes but water sitting in a 90 over my office popped the pipe. Ceiling came down. Got the machine out right before it fell. Controls fried, 50" Sony TV/monitor fried. Have not replaced the controllers..... yet.