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Title: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 10, 2010, 05:17:40 PM
Sorry had to do it. :)

Well it seems that this aircraft falls in to three catagorys of paint schemes & here they are.


(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/b29profile1.jpg)


(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/b29profile2.jpg)


(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/b29profile.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Void on November 10, 2010, 05:24:49 PM
Me like the 2nd skin.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: cactuskooler on November 10, 2010, 05:25:12 PM
Soo many rivets.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Beefcake on November 10, 2010, 05:50:11 PM
That olive drab looks wonderful.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Larry on November 10, 2010, 06:09:11 PM
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/1_6.jpg)   :D
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Jayhawk on November 10, 2010, 06:29:55 PM
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/1_6.jpg)   :D

Hey, wait a minute... That's not a B-29, not exactly at least (well sorta exactly).
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Imowface on November 10, 2010, 07:07:58 PM
Tu-4 was heavier then the B-29, and lacked the range and payload accordingly, we did do a dam good job at copying it though, if it wernt for your silly imperial measurments we would have done better  :devil
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 10, 2010, 09:06:54 PM
That olive drab looks wonderful.
Kind of partial to the Olive drab my self.


(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/air_superfortress12.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/8eeb7c1b5af681527e950029628ee751.jpg)

I like this plane. ESSO EXPRESS.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/3_2.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/3664351330_721992e0e0.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/essoex.jpg)

http://www.intergate.com/~sandcrab/History%20Of%20the%20Esso%20Express.htm

http://www.flyingmule.com/products/CG-AA31801

Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: 321BAR on November 10, 2010, 09:49:00 PM
Tu-4 was heavier then the B-29, and lacked the range and payload accordingly, we did do a dam good job at copying it though, if it wernt for your silly imperial measurments we would have done better  :devil
yeah...the one and only time we copied the russians :rofl
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Plazus on November 10, 2010, 09:51:30 PM
Olive drab does look nice. I prefer the bare metal IMO. Looks more "American" that way. :D
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Karnak on November 10, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
yeah...the one and only time we copied the russians :rofl
You got his post backwards.  He is Russian and is saying Russia did a damn good job copying the B-29.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Plazus on November 10, 2010, 10:54:27 PM
Tu-4 was heavier then the B-29, and lacked the range and payload accordingly, we did do a dam good job at copying it though, if it wernt for your silly imperial measurments we would have done better  :devil

Well perhaps our silly measurements do have some strategic value, eh? :D
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Krusty on November 10, 2010, 11:11:32 PM
I thought the majority of all B-29s that saw combat were stripped of paint (bare metal)?

Where are all these OD ones serving? Are they being used as transports (see previous posts) or are they doing something other than bombing Japan?


Just curious.


EDIT: Correction, not BMF, but painted silver. Still, they looked metallic, is what I meant. Pic of those B-29s in formation looks like it's flying over farmland in America's Heartland.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 10, 2010, 11:32:42 PM
I thought the majority of all B-29s that saw combat were stripped of paint (bare metal)?

Where are all these OD ones serving? Are they being used as transports (see previous posts) or are they doing something other than bombing Japan?


Just curious.


EDIT: Correction, not BMF, but painted silver. Still, they looked metallic, is what I meant. Pic of those B-29s in formation looks like it's flying over farmland in America's Heartland.
I believe they started off as bombers operating out of Burma in the very early stages of bombing Japan & then they were changed into transports operating over the hump.

Have to double check though this is from memory of a book I read quite some time back & I may not be 100% correct.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 10, 2010, 11:55:52 PM
This one I would say is a must. :aok

THE SPEARHEAD



(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/spearhead1ab.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/spearhead1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/spearhead1abc.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/spearhead1abcd.jpg)

These last two are post war you van tell by the PW SUPPLIES written under the wing for prisoner of war supply drops that they performed at wars end. Also some of the paint work has been removed & is very faded compared to the first colour photo that was taken during the war. All in all at least you get a good look at what the colours actually looked like.

Sadly I can't read what is in the yellow panel with red trim. I would imagine it is something to do with giving credit to the Marines.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/spearheadab.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/spearhead4.jpg)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9th_bomb_group_scrapbook/2390685042/
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Greebo on November 11, 2010, 07:11:14 AM
I'd say its going to be hard to get any detail on a plane that size with only a single 1024 by 1024 tile to work on. A one dot rivet or panel line will look huge relative to the plane. Maybe HTC ought to  stretch to two exterior tiles for this plane.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Knite on November 11, 2010, 09:07:30 AM
Well they did just update the engine to handle 2048 textures too.... so maybe they're going to designate the 29's exterior as a 2048 texture?
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Greebo on November 11, 2010, 10:36:12 AM
I think a 2048 tile might be going a bit far, that's four times the memory requirement of a single 1024. Your FE only sees your own interior cockpit skin, not any other player's. So that's a finite amount of extra memory needed for 2048 res. However your FE see the external art of any other nearby plane. Can you imagine what a large squadron flying threes of B-29s in close formation (possibly with different skins) would do to framerates if you had 2048 external art?

Two 1024 tiles ought to give a slightly better surface resolution on a B-29 than say the B-24 would have with one tile.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Knite on November 11, 2010, 04:31:29 PM
I think a 2048 tile might be going a bit far, that's four times the memory requirement of a single 1024. Your FE only sees your own interior cockpit skin, not any other player's. So that's a finite amount of extra memory needed for 2048 res. However your FE see the external art of any other nearby plane. Can you imagine what a large squadron flying threes of B-29s in close formation (possibly with different skins) would do to framerates if you had 2048 external art?

Two 1024 tiles ought to give a slightly better surface resolution on a B-29 than say the B-24 would have with one tile.

You make a good point there... I'd have to say 2 1024s definitely makes more sense.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: 321BAR on November 11, 2010, 08:33:45 PM
You got his post backwards.  He is Russian and is saying Russia did a damn good job copying the B-29.
:( :uhoh :bolt: my bad. i always thought the Tu-4 came before the B-29...? :headscratch:

that and the canadian leaf threw me off
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Imowface on November 11, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
lol yeah I live in canada but was born in russia, so rather then asking Kaz or bruv to make me a russian flag, I just picked the flag of where I live  :)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Krusty on November 13, 2010, 05:18:30 PM
Well they did just update the engine to handle 2048 textures too.... so maybe they're going to designate the 29's exterior as a 2048 texture?


I know Greebo already answered this, but as a follow-up, I believe they said only the cockpit files were being upgraded to 2048, and that they had no plans to increase the external skin files. I would agree that 2 bitmaps, each at 1024 would be the better solution as compared to 2048. That's if the textures cannot be satisfactorily applied to 1 bitmap. I think the B-17 is really cramped but it's possible. Who knows how clever HTC will get?
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 13, 2010, 11:59:00 PM
There is a lot of great pictures of this bomb group for you skinners to pick over.

http://www.philcrowther.com/6thBG/
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: 5PointOh on November 14, 2010, 01:27:27 PM
Grrrr so many rivets.   :( Evil rivets.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Krusty on November 14, 2010, 01:34:42 PM
Grrrr so many rivets.   :( Evil rivets.


What rivets?

(http://www.philcrowther.com/6thBG/images/plane58a.jpg) I see none there.

I see none here:

(http://www.philcrowther.com/6thBG/images/new.jpg)

But, let's take a closer look:

(http://www.philcrowther.com/6thBG/images/plane01b.jpg)


While you can see color variations in panels, you can see panel lines (in some cases) you cannot see rivets.

Rivets are over-represented in Aces High skins. I've done it myself. In the absence of rivet dots on a skin, you have many other options for how you wish to break up the colors, or keep it "interesting"...

B-29s were flush riveted, were painted silver most times, and even on the ones that looked like the paint was stripped down to BMF, you still can't see rivets enless you stick your face 2 inches from the plane.


No need to worry about rivets. Forget them. Instead, worry about making the metal look nice. Or the silver paint.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: 5PointOh on November 14, 2010, 01:49:32 PM
You make a very valid point.  Should be fun to do once we get a default skin.  I often enjoy the research as much as I enjoy making the skin.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 14, 2010, 03:40:53 PM
I thought the majority of all B-29s that saw combat were stripped of paint (bare metal)?

Where are all these OD ones serving? Are they being used as transports (see previous posts) or are they doing something other than bombing Japan?


Just curious.


EDIT: Correction, not BMF, but painted silver. Still, they looked metallic, is what I meant. Pic of those B-29s in formation looks like it's flying over farmland in America's Heartland.


The first X number of B-29s built, (don't remember, info at home), left the factory painted OD/Gray.

The operated out of India, flying over the Himalayas, bombing SE Asia, China, and Japan itself. 


wrongway
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 16, 2010, 03:42:02 PM

The first X number of B-29s built, (don't remember, info at home), left the factory painted OD/Gray.

The operated out of India, flying over the Himalayas, bombing SE Asia, China, and Japan itself. 


wrongway
Here is one of them.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks4.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 16, 2010, 03:58:53 PM
Some profiles.
 I think some of the 444TH Bomb Group aircraft will be popular with the FU-KEMAL on the side. :rock
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks-1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks1-1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks2-1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks3.jpg)

Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 16, 2010, 04:09:37 PM
444TH Bomb Group link.


http://www.444thbg.org/676thsquadron.htm#
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Squire on November 16, 2010, 07:56:12 PM
Like the olive drab one best.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: 800nate on November 16, 2010, 07:59:52 PM
wasnt there wome brit skins for i :headscratch:t?
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 16, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
wasnt there Some brit skins for iT :headscratch:t?

All British B-29's are all post WORLD WAR II to the best of my knowledge.

Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 16, 2010, 09:06:34 PM
I like the nose art of this 462ND bomb group.


(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks5.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks6.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Tec on November 17, 2010, 02:44:37 PM
The olive drab is awesome.  Also FU-KEMAL must be done lol.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 17, 2010, 04:59:08 PM
The olive drab is awesome.  Also FU-KEMAL must be done lol.
Agreed on both points. FU-KEMAL was not just one aircraft I think the entire squadron wore that name not 100% sure on that. Some more O/D B-29's.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks-2.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks1-2.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B-2920Pepper.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/esso.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks22.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/b29ghj.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/DingHowCrewSm.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/b29-4.jpg)

Next two are the same aircraft.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B-29HoboQueenCamo.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Hobo.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/od29.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29-England-11Mar44_AE59.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 17, 2010, 08:46:20 PM
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/b29-nitemare.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: cooldued on November 18, 2010, 12:19:18 AM
Kind of partial to the Olive drab my self.


(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/air_superfortress12.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/8eeb7c1b5af681527e950029628ee751.jpg)

I like this plane. ESSO EXPRESS.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/3_2.jpg) i like this one and the russin one. just so you know i call the first video with b-29 in it lol

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/3664351330_721992e0e0.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/essoex.jpg)

http://www.intergate.com/~sandcrab/History%20Of%20the%20Esso%20Express.htm

http://www.flyingmule.com/products/CG-AA31801


Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Rino on November 18, 2010, 11:18:06 AM
Here is one of them.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks4.jpg)

      Ooooh, I'd like one of those Q-tipped props  :D
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: cooldued on November 18, 2010, 12:06:09 PM
ops just looked i ment to type this in my last post here > I like this one and the rusin one.oh and just so you know, i call makeing the first video with the B-29 in it! :devil
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 19, 2010, 12:40:13 AM
A couple more OD B-29's.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks-3.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/hcws.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/hcxe.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/hdhs.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Krusty on November 19, 2010, 12:47:09 AM
No guns on those. They weren't combat, just transport.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Karnak on November 19, 2010, 01:22:02 AM
No guns on those. They weren't combat, just transport.
Only the last two lack guns.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 19, 2010, 05:15:34 AM
No guns on those. They weren't combat, just transport.
All OD B-29's started with guns & those that ended up as transports were de-fanged. Now did those paint schemes come while they had guns or after? Don't know? It would be near impossible to find that out. I am lead to believe that there may have been only 50 to 100 OD B29's to begin with from what I have read.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Krusty on November 19, 2010, 07:21:12 PM
Considering the nose art is of the two characters climbing over mountains carrying gas cans, I'd say it was after they were in the transport mission hauling avgas over the mountains. (wild guess)

Karnak: Exactly. But if you look up higher, esso express and hobo queen also lack guns and are OD.

I'd like a little more info on this baby:

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/b29-4.jpg)

What are we looking at here? Are those engines and cowlings BMF, but the wings OD? The fuselage is clearly OD but with perhaps different shades (or metal?) rings around the base of the turrets and around the gunner windows.

What are we looking at here? Final paint? In-progress paint job? Assembly line quirk where engines from BMF met one of the last OD airframes?

Or possibly some very strange lighting/shadows affecting a paint job not fully "cured" thus making the engines and fuselage look different when the final product ends up being the same? (possible but I would doubt it).
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 19, 2010, 07:54:49 PM
Considering the nose art is of the two characters climbing over mountains carrying gas cans, I'd say it was after they were in the transport mission hauling avgas over the mountains. (wild guess)

Karnak: Exactly. But if you look up higher, esso express and hobo queen also lack guns and are OD.

I'd like a little more info on this baby:

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/b29-4.jpg)

What are we looking at here? Are those engines and cowlings BMF, but the wings OD? The fuselage is clearly OD but with perhaps different shades (or metal?) rings around the base of the turrets and around the gunner windows.

What are we looking at here? Final paint? In-progress paint job? Assembly line quirk where engines from BMF met one of the last OD airframes?

Or possibly some very strange lighting/shadows affecting a paint job not fully "cured" thus making the engines and fuselage look different when the final product ends up being the same? (possible but I would doubt it).
Part of the proto types at Boeing the three bladed prop is the give away.

Here is a picture of an XB-29.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Boeing_XB-29.jpg)

Now ESSO Express as you can see in this picture started as a bomber & ended up a full transport as can be seen in the second picture.


(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/3664351330_721992e0e0-1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/esso.jpg)

Most of the OD B29's I have posted are mostly partial pictures with no way to confirm what the entire aircraft looked like hence very unlikely to be skinned for AHII.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 20, 2010, 01:07:54 AM
At any rate, they didn't start out as NMF bombers and were then converted to OD/Grey transports.  They were bombers first.

My concern would be that before they were converted some may have had different nose art and some of the pictures depict them in their "transport" role only.



wrongway
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: fullmetalbullet on November 20, 2010, 05:12:11 AM
Tu-4 was heavier then the B-29, and lacked the range and payload accordingly, we did do a dam good job at copying it though, if it wernt for your silly imperial measurments we would have done better  :devil

unfortionatly you are wrong my russian friend. the Soviets couldnt of made it better, the only really good thing in my opinion to come out of russia is vodka and the AK 47s. but tanks airplanes and cars! HAA! they kill more of their own crews then of the enemy. so i highly disagree that they would have made the TU-4(B-29) better then the great original design of the B-29 that the US built.

BTW I like the B-29(spearhead) alot :salute Semper Fi to those marines who fought bravely and valiantly on Iwo Jima.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Karnak on November 20, 2010, 12:59:17 PM
unfortionatly you are wrong my russian friend. the Soviets couldnt of made it better, the only really good thing in my opinion to come out of russia is vodka and the AK 47s. but tanks airplanes and cars! HAA! they kill more of their own crews then of the enemy. so i highly disagree that they would have made the TU-4(B-29) better then the great original design of the B-29 that the US built.
You misunderstood him I think.  He wasn't saying the Russians would have made it better than the original, he was saying they would have made a better copy than they did if not for different measurement systems.

I don't know that he is correct, but you need to unwind your nationalistic panties a bit methinks.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: fullmetalbullet on November 20, 2010, 05:34:36 PM
its not that. i was just saying everything that the russian make vehicle and plane wise falls apart or kills the operator. i like the russians, and i have many russian friends. but when it comes to vehicles. i would much rather have a lancia over a russian car. im sorry if people misread that. i ment that they couldnt of made it better even if they had the right tools, and measurments.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: VonKost on November 22, 2010, 04:14:58 PM
Definitely going to need an early marking (Diamond and number on the tale) and a late (N in Triangle) marked 444th BG Skin!!
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 22, 2010, 04:24:28 PM
Definitely going to need an early marking (Diamond and number on the tale) and a late (N in Triangle) marked 444th BG Skin!!
Pick one.  :D

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks-4.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks7-1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks6-1-1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks7-2.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 22, 2010, 04:45:24 PM
Considering the nose art is of the two characters climbing over mountains carrying gas cans, I'd say it was after they were in the transport mission hauling avgas over the mountains. (wild guess)

Karnak: Exactly. But if you look up higher, esso express and hobo queen also lack guns and are OD.

I'd like a little more info on this baby:

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/b29-4.jpg)

What are we looking at here? Are those engines and cowlings BMF, but the wings OD? The fuselage is clearly OD but with perhaps different shades (or metal?) rings around the base of the turrets and around the gunner windows.

What are we looking at here? Final paint? In-progress paint job? Assembly line quirk where engines from BMF met one of the last OD airframes?

Or possibly some very strange lighting/shadows affecting a paint job not fully "cured" thus making the engines and fuselage look different when the final product ends up being the same? (possible but I would doubt it).
I think this will answer all your questions. It looks like the transports arrived as bombers but were immediately changed to transports & only partially armed.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks1-3.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks3-1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks4-1.jpg)

Interesting tid bit in regards to red borders.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks2-2.jpg)



Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: DEECONX on November 22, 2010, 05:26:50 PM
How about "Sweet Thing" for the 444th!

(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/Kassill1/220px-444bg-678bs-44-70108-sweet-thing.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 22, 2010, 05:39:31 PM
Some more profiles,pics,info.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks10.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks11.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks9.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks8.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks12.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks13.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks14.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks16.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: VonKost on November 22, 2010, 06:11:30 PM
My XO Malibu wants Male Call and that is an early one! Fu-kemal-tu would be a great one for late.  :D
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Tyrannis on November 24, 2010, 10:33:48 AM
any chance of us getting the famous boxcar skin? and the other famous atomic b29 skin?(forget her name) :noid
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 24, 2010, 11:20:33 AM
any chance of us getting the famous boxcar skin? and the other famous atomic b29 skin?(forget her name) :noid
Enola Gay. Good question? It is not the same aircraft as the A or B model they were specially modified. If permitted it opens the door for all B models on the A model frame. Also for that matter it opens the door for all transport B29's as well since they were partially armed just as the Silverplate B29's were.

Edit: The nose art on Bockscar was post war.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Tyrannis on November 28, 2010, 04:54:45 AM
this?
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: MarineUS on November 28, 2010, 12:18:46 PM
Olive drab does look nice. I prefer the bare metal IMO. Looks more "American" that way. :D

+1 :aok
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 28, 2010, 05:07:28 PM
this?
Only problem with this photo is it is yet to be deployed to a squadron. It makes for great reference material though for any one who wants to do a OD skin though.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: VonKost on November 28, 2010, 07:45:52 PM
I think there were only like two dozen that made it to the field in Olive Drab. There are a few photos of them in India.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 28, 2010, 08:53:10 PM
I think there were only like two dozen that made it to the field in Olive Drab. There are a few photos of them in India.
Back in this thread I posted a picture that shows a listing of 40 on the first shipment.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: VonKost on November 28, 2010, 09:07:09 PM
Ahh, I knew it was somewhere around there. We need at least one OD skin. I've read four B-29 books and the latest LeMay biography in the hospital this week. They are all starting to run together!  :huh
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Tyrannis on November 28, 2010, 09:15:25 PM
some really good skins on this site

http://www.markstyling.com/b29s_wwll_1.htm
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Tyrannis on November 28, 2010, 09:26:31 PM
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Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on November 28, 2010, 11:24:36 PM
I have complete profiles of all of these.
As well as pictures of some of them.


(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/superfort.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/superfort1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/superfort2.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: 5PointOh on February 15, 2011, 08:46:53 PM
Hate to reserect an old thread but there are so many nice pictures.  Can't wait to see some of the skins.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on February 15, 2011, 09:22:08 PM
Since football season is over here in the States & spring is in the air. :D



(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/CEo9MmmkKGrHqUOKj8E0vBjH66BNSetO3Hvg_3.jpg)

This may be a Korean era aircraft?
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: VonKost on February 15, 2011, 11:10:19 PM
My Great Uncle's plane.

Here's the story: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,306708.0/topicseen.html

This is a color photo of 42-24472's nose art.
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/SkyChiefNA.jpg)

This is a photo of the Mather Crew:
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/SkyChiefCrew-444thBGBook.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Greebo on February 17, 2011, 06:38:12 AM
I'll skin your great uncle's B-29 VonKost, nice work on researching it. It will probably be a few weeks until I have time to do it though. Would you prefer it in CBI or Tinian tail markings?
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: 5PointOh on February 17, 2011, 07:16:54 AM
I'd like to do "Little Organ Annie" if anyone wouldn't mind.

(http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/46021/1068893523040631454S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: Dichotomy on February 17, 2011, 11:05:25 AM
I'll skin your great uncle's B-29 VonKost, nice work on researching it. It will probably be a few weeks until I have time to do it though. Would you prefer it in CBI or Tinian tail markings?
:salute

Thank you Greebo
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: oakranger on February 17, 2011, 01:09:47 PM
The olive drab is awesome.  Also FU-KEMAL must be done lol.

Olive drab on the B-29 looks....i don't know.  It just dose not look good on them to me.  Just my opinion. 
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: dirt911 on February 17, 2011, 03:40:58 PM
any chance of us getting the famous boxcar skin? and the other famous atomic b29 skin?(forget her name) :noid


Enola Gay?
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: dirt911 on February 17, 2011, 03:43:27 PM
I read up on "Male Call".  :cry
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: VonKost on February 17, 2011, 05:32:33 PM
I'll skin your great uncle's B-29 VonKost, nice work on researching it. It will probably be a few weeks until I have time to do it though. Would you prefer it in CBI or Tinian tail markings?

Thanks Greebo, that is a very kind offer. I'm in no hurry so please take your time.

42-24472 should be in CBI markings. The diamond on the tail should be blue and the number 64 should be yellow. The 677th squadron color was red for the fuselage strip.

Here are some pics I just found today.

http://www.444thbg.org/deanwillisc.htm

This is a different crew, but the same B-29. I was confused by this, but this airframe must have changed crews at some point, probably more than once. The mission marks are different and it shows a list of crew members on the landing gear door that is not present on the photo's above. I'm not sure.

I just got off the phone with a gentleman Named Neal S. Crist that flew as a flight engineer on Sky Chief after my uncle evidently made the switch, so perhaps this was one of those old planes that everyone flew until they got a new one.

If you wanted to do 44-70002 it would be Tinian Triangle N with a 51 on the side of the fuselage. It would have the red stripe as well as a red stripe on the cowling with the number 51 on it. It was the new aircraft that crashed and I'm not even sure it had any nose art added yet.

In this book http://www.amazon.com/B-29-Superfortress-Comprehensive-Registry-Missions/dp/0786444584/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297984234&sr=1-3 Both 42-24472 and 44-70002 are listed with the name of Sky Chief so maybe it was a direct replacement.

(44-70002) 677th BS Tinian Triangle N #51 - Combat Loss 05/17/1945
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: lyric1 on May 05, 2011, 04:39:39 PM
If your a fan of the Mad magazine your going to like this B-29.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/post-94-1170025984.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/mil222.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Worry.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/post-3-1170089529.jpg)

Sadly not enough info to do a skin at this point.


Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 15, 2011, 12:23:39 AM
I like the olive drab and the shiny metal finish.
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: hlbly on May 15, 2011, 02:07:45 AM
unfortionatly you are wrong my russian friend. the Soviets couldnt of made it better, the only really good thing in my opinion to come out of russia is vodka and the AK 47s. but tanks airplanes and cars! HAA! they kill more of their own crews then of the enemy. so i highly disagree that they would have made the TU-4(B-29) better then the great original design of the B-29 that the US built.

BTW I like the B-29(spearhead) alot :salute Semper Fi to those marines who fought bravely and valiantly on Iwo Jima.
You could not be more wrong . For instance the Soviet equivalent of our MOPP <the evergreen chemical protective suit I believe> gear was vastly superior to ours . Not only in how well it protected but in the all important fatigue factor . The RPG is another example of not just good but but superior equipment . Soviet simple equipment has almost always proven to be both robust and reliable . Where it began to break down was as it became more complex . Good example of this is night vision . A lot of it is on the civilian market today . Every piece I have seen is just terrible .
Title: Re: First B-29 Skins post.
Post by: hlbly on May 15, 2011, 02:11:31 AM
its not that. i was just saying everything that the russian make vehicle and plane wise falls apart or kills the operator. i like the russians, and i have many russian friends. but when it comes to vehicles. i would much rather have a lancia over a russian car. im sorry if people misread that. i ment that they couldnt of made it better even if they had the right tools, and measurments.
You should look over the Tu-95 the T-34 the Mig17 just to name a few things you are wrong about . The Mig17 beat the crap out of us in Vietnam until we quit thinking our pilots did not need to know how to dogfight .